Truancy Issue: Getting Some Answers

As we continue with our look into the Davis Joint Unified School District and other jurisdiction’s truancy efforts, we are finally getting a little bit of clarity as to what the policy entails and what it does not entail.

At one point during the school board meeting last Thursday, Davis Joint Unified School District Director of Student Services, Pam Mari made a somewhat awkward statement:

“And interestingly enough, there could have been an incident that happened today that had nothing to do with anything about this topic, but the last perception is crucial.”

This statement turned out to be true to some extent. The police action on the high school campus did indeed have nothing to do with the truancy “sweeps.” The action was actually related to a separate police led crackdown upon violations of the provisional license portion of the vehicle code section 12814.6 subdivision (B) which specifies:

“during the first 12 months after issuance of a provisional license the licensee may not do any of the following unless accompanied and supervised by a licensed driver who is the licensee’s parent or guardian, a licensed driver who is 25 years of age or older, or a licensed or certified driving instructor:

(B) Transport passengers who are under 20 years of age.”

It is the view of the police that most minors do not believe that this section of the vehicle code is enforced and therefore they determined that they would crack down on this behavior by the students. In a future installment, we will hear from some of the students at the high school about their perceptions about what happened and is happening on the campus. But a number of public officials have expressed privately some concerns about this crackdown by police.

There is a specific provision in this law that students cannot merely be pulled over for suspicion of violating this law. They can only be pulled over if there is probable cause of some other violation.

Hence subdivision (c) reads:

(c) A law enforcement officer may not stop a vehicle for the sole purpose of determining whether the driver is in violation of the restrictions imposed under subdivision (b).

In other words, we have cleared up some of the confusion as to what occurred on campus on Thursday of last week, where there was mass confusion and a number of complaints about the police presence, activities and presence on campus. That said the very idea of a crackdown and enforcement of this law appears to go against the spirit of the law that the legislature passed which specifically sought to avoid the type of profiling and stops that appear to have occurred on the campus. The actions performed by officers may well have fallen within the letter of the law in terms of using secondary violations as a means by which to pull over the students, but the intention of the law and the spirit of this law have clearly been pushed to the brink at the very least.

Moving on to the truancy policy itself, there still appears to be two major problems with the handling of the policy by the school district administration.

One is largely a communication problem, where the policy was never communicated from the administrative level in the school district to the policy level (i.e. the school board) and probably not adequately communicated to parents or the community. As a result of that, large portions of this policy are now on hold. This was to be an interjurisdictional policy with coordination between the District Attorney’s Office, Police Department and School District. However, somehow and for some reasons none of the policymaking bodies–city council, school board, or board of supervisors–were informed of this coordinated activity.

The second problem developed from the use of the word “sweep.” As Lt. Darren Pytel of the Davis Police Department explained to me, the police’s use of the word “sweep” is a much broader term than what non-law enforcement think of the meaning of the word “sweep.”

At one point during the meeting, Pam Mari recognized the word “sweep” was part of the angst that had been created with the board about this policy.

“Perhaps we are really hurting on this word sweep… And if the word sweep were eliminated and it was home visit, I wonder if we would be as hurting. I apologize if that word is what is causing the trouble, that’s a word that the police department uses to mean on a given day we are going to use a lot of our energy and do this.”

It is interesting because according to Lt. Darren Pytel, the department is now also using the term “home visit” rather than “sweep” to describe the operation.

While the use of word “sweep” may have been unfortunate. It was probably not the chief cause for concern among the school board members. It is also unfortunate the way the meeting itself was conducted. First, the board was provided with exactly one paragraph of written documentation for a fairly complex policy that required a good deal of coordination and explanation.

Second, if all of these agencies (police, school district, district attorney) were involved, then why not have representatives from all of these agencies present at the school board meeting. At the very least, if Lt. Darren Pytel and Deputy District Attorney Jonathan Raven were present at this meeting, they could have responded to some of the concerns. Instead, we are having to ask questions of them outside of the public setting. Normally an interjurisdictional presentation would have each of the participants as part of a broader presentation. None of this happened. Instead there was a paragraph delivered to the school board.

It is only now that there is any kind of clarity about this policy and that in itself remains a source of discomfort not only for community members, but public officials whose duty it is to run various bodies.

There are actually two parts of this operation according to Davis Police Lt. Darren Pytel. The first part is that when the district recognized they had a truancy problem (Lt. Pytel said that the truancy problem began before the computer glitch and extended past it) and the police quickly discovered that a large portion of the students who were skipping class had actually gone to the park right next door to the school, and so with minimal effort of increasing patrols by the police, they could transport those students back to class. Therefore, this was a relatively simple and straightforward way to get a good percentage of students back to class.

The second part of the effort, which was what they were calling the “sweep,” actually were these home visits, where the worst of the truancy offenders would receive home visits by the police and a school administrator. They would make contact with the parents and hopefully get the students back in class. According to Lt. Pytel, this was very successful last year.

Their goal for this year was the top 20 offenders at the high school, the five worst offenders at the Junior High, and all of the elementary school students who were truant.

That brings us to the next question: why do the police have to do this rather than merely the administration? There is a concern that some of the truants are not merely students who are not wanting to go to school but some may also be involved in criminal activity. Therefore a home visit by an administrator alone may introduce an element of danger and risk that they should not have to undertake. That is the job of the police. (The real question that we will discuss a bit later is whether we are to the point where the police need to become involved).

Therefore, again according to what the police are saying, there is no general sweep in this plan. A general sweep would be a broader crackdown within the community whereby the police would look for minors who were supposed to be in school and bring them back to school. Again, the claim by Lt. Pytel is that this was not in the offering.

That said, there is a degree of skepticism by some officials about this claim. Some of whom believe that it is possible that the original plan did call for a more general crackdown on truancy which did involve the police going into the larger community and attempt to find students who were not in class and bring them back to class. And that this represents a bit of backtracking on the part of the police after getting some negative feedback from the community. (I am not really in the position to judge this now, all I can tell is you is what I have been told.)

Lt. Pytel also claimed to not have knowledge about the proposed use of PDAs to identify the students who were supposed to be in class and those who were not suppose to be in class. This was mentioned by Pam Mari but it was not clear who would be the jurisdiction that used the PDAs and how they would be used.

Lt. Pytel did say that in general it was fairly easy to determine which kids were out legitimately and which were not. That most of the students were actually very honest when they were caught. A few of the students did however lie about their identity, but that was quickly discovered as well with a radio to Marc Hicks, the School Resource Officer.

As I said, the questions and concerns now raised by the school board have put this on hold for now. We need to have future discussions in the school district and community at large about the problem of truancy. It may be a serious problem. But the way that this policy came together is also equally concerning. The lack of communication to the policy makers is a serious problem that needs further inquiry. The school board should never have been put in the position that they were on Thursday.

Originally the police were going to conduct their truancy sweep, I mean home visits, on September 19, 2007. As we discussed previously with our look at the education code, legally, the code provides that certain steps be taken before such actions could occur. So there would not be sufficient time to send out the right number of letters or follow the steps laid out. That would mean, that legally the police could not enforce the truancy laws, all they could do would be to go to the home of the students and attempt to get them back into school that way.

I think this is an important that bears consideration. The justification for this was that by the time they could get the letters out, the students would be hopelessly behind in their studies. Therefore, if they could get to the students in September who were already having serious problems with truancy, they could get back into school and be able to catch up.

In theory that sounds good, in practice, there are two important considerations. First, that the law is very specific about the protocol that needs to be followed, in such a way that law enforcement involvement necessarily comes at the last possible step. And second, there is a reason why many of these students are missing class. So even if you get them back into class early on, you still have to deal with those contributing problems. In other words, merely getting them back into class is not a solution but rather a step in the process. There is an advantage to getting to them sooner, but not at the expense of process.

During the course of the meeting on Thursday, Pam Mari was dismissive of the creation of a School Attendance Review Board (SARB) as a means deal with this issue. However, Lt. Pytel offered it as perhaps the ultimate direction that they want to go. The concern though was that it would take time to set it up and it is by its nature a bureaucracy that relies heavily on the coordination between a large number of jurisdictions.

Here is a good definition of SARB:

“In 1974, the Legislature enacted a statute to enhance the enforcement of compulsory education laws and to divert students with school attendance or behavior problems from the juvenile justice system until all available resources have been exhausted. This statute created School Attendance Review Board (SARBs), composed of representatives from various youth-serving agencies, to help truant or recalcitrant students and their parents or guardians solve school attendance and behavior problems through the use of available school and community resources. Although the goal of SARB is to keep students in school and provide them with a meaningful educational experience, SARB does have the power, when necessary, to refer students and their parents or guardians to court.”

It seems that the reason that they did not attempt to create a SARB was that it would take a good amount of time, large amounts of efforts and cooperation to create. But this would be a body that would have the authority to do what was needed to get kids back into school but it would not begin at the law enforcement level.

And this remains my concern with this process. I believe that the goal of getting students who are not attending school into class is a very admirable one. But I do not like the way this was approached. Without board direction, an administrator with the school district reached out to law enforcement bodies for help. Law enforcement has a very specific role to play in our society and that is to enforce the laws and punish people who break those laws and who represent a danger to society.

However to put it simply, they are a blunt object. Their presence is marked by fear, intimidation, and authority. In some cases, that presence can be helpful in being the two-by-four that wakes up parents and students and gets their attention. But as Lt. Pytel acknowledged, kids are not a one-size-fits-all subgroup. Rather different kids will respond to different stimuli. For some kids, this type of action may help them. For other, it may push them into other directions.

I think the statement made by School Board member Tim Taylor remains crucial for those of us who are still concerned about this policy.

“One of the things we are struggling with is that regardless of whether the law allows certain things to be done, if they haven’t been done, we have two choices, we can hit the ground at 100 miles per hour or we can have a discussion with ourselves and the community and the public and discuss what are we going to do and I think what you’re hearing and certainly what I’m feeling certainly is that the 100 mile an hour approach while perhaps legal may not be the best fit. Because people are gong to feel like they are getting run over. That will cause community pullback… instead of buy-in, which I think we need, that will have the opposite effect.”

The goals involved in this program are as I said, admirable. But really the middle people should not be the ones creating the policies or at least new procedures by which to deal with existing policies–depending on what terminology you want to use here. What I would like to see now is a prolonged discussion in the community, where you have parents, community members, students, the police, the district attorney, the traffic commissioner, the juvenile justice community, the city council, and the school board all sit down communicate about the issue of truancy.

First I would like talk about what the problems are. I still do not feel I have a good appreciation for what the problems are, how extensive they are, and what other problems exist.

Second, I would like a full detailing of present efforts to curtail truancy. What has been tried. What has worked. What has not worked.

Third, determine a course of action. It is my opinion, that law enforcement should be the absolute last resort for dealing with this problem. And quite frankly, law enforcement in this case was not the last resort. Pam Mari argued strongly during the meeting that she exhausted everything and therefore was forced to bring in law enforcement, but that is not true in the least. The next step should have been to take it to the school board. Another step would have been to take it to the public in terms of community forums. Another step would have been to create a task force. Another step would have been to create a SARB. All of these are things that were not done prior to an effort to outreach law enforcement.

It may be that at the end of the day, we do need to be law enforcement. But at the point when we will have done that, we will have engaged the community on this issue and will have brought them along in the process toward that conclusion. As it stands now there is confusion, there is anger, there is fear, and there is trepidation. That does not lead to community buy in, it leads to community pull back.

And let me be very clear, my complaint here is not with law enforcement. It may not even be with this policy. It is with the process by which this policy was created. There are key lessons to be learned here, and the biggest one is that the best of efforts and intentions can be undone by failure to communicate and failure to follow proper process.

—Doug Paul Davis reporting

About The Author

David Greenwald is the founder, editor, and executive director of the Davis Vanguard. He founded the Vanguard in 2006. David Greenwald moved to Davis in 1996 to attend Graduate School at UC Davis in Political Science. He lives in South Davis with his wife Cecilia Escamilla Greenwald and three children.

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72 Comments

  1. sharla

    As we learn more and more, I’m dumbfounded by the enormity of missing information and incorrect information in Director of Student Services’ report to the School Board at its last meeting. We can give her a little slack due to it being her first time reporting to the School Board in her new capacity, but there is just so much wrong that it makes me wonder if she’s up to the task.

    **********

    One concern is if during the patrolling at the park the officers discover student in possession of drugs or alcohol that they do not then transport them back to school where the school administrators then suspend or expel the student. It is my understanding that the officers are treating this differently and are not taking them back to school.

    As for what happens to the student once they get back to school, we will have to keep pestering the school administrators to find out and determine if there are “push out” policies are being used. For example, not making students responsible for school work assigned or due during their absence.

  2. sharla

    As we learn more and more, I’m dumbfounded by the enormity of missing information and incorrect information in Director of Student Services’ report to the School Board at its last meeting. We can give her a little slack due to it being her first time reporting to the School Board in her new capacity, but there is just so much wrong that it makes me wonder if she’s up to the task.

    **********

    One concern is if during the patrolling at the park the officers discover student in possession of drugs or alcohol that they do not then transport them back to school where the school administrators then suspend or expel the student. It is my understanding that the officers are treating this differently and are not taking them back to school.

    As for what happens to the student once they get back to school, we will have to keep pestering the school administrators to find out and determine if there are “push out” policies are being used. For example, not making students responsible for school work assigned or due during their absence.

  3. sharla

    As we learn more and more, I’m dumbfounded by the enormity of missing information and incorrect information in Director of Student Services’ report to the School Board at its last meeting. We can give her a little slack due to it being her first time reporting to the School Board in her new capacity, but there is just so much wrong that it makes me wonder if she’s up to the task.

    **********

    One concern is if during the patrolling at the park the officers discover student in possession of drugs or alcohol that they do not then transport them back to school where the school administrators then suspend or expel the student. It is my understanding that the officers are treating this differently and are not taking them back to school.

    As for what happens to the student once they get back to school, we will have to keep pestering the school administrators to find out and determine if there are “push out” policies are being used. For example, not making students responsible for school work assigned or due during their absence.

  4. sharla

    As we learn more and more, I’m dumbfounded by the enormity of missing information and incorrect information in Director of Student Services’ report to the School Board at its last meeting. We can give her a little slack due to it being her first time reporting to the School Board in her new capacity, but there is just so much wrong that it makes me wonder if she’s up to the task.

    **********

    One concern is if during the patrolling at the park the officers discover student in possession of drugs or alcohol that they do not then transport them back to school where the school administrators then suspend or expel the student. It is my understanding that the officers are treating this differently and are not taking them back to school.

    As for what happens to the student once they get back to school, we will have to keep pestering the school administrators to find out and determine if there are “push out” policies are being used. For example, not making students responsible for school work assigned or due during their absence.

  5. tansey thomas

    Wow!To think it is taking you to make sense of and explain to the community the bizarre goings on at that School Board meeting. When was it explained to the community or even our elected officials that there is a truancy problem or an issue regarding provisional licences? When was it explained the potential courses of action under consideration? Was it none of our business? Is there a bunker mentality in the administrative office? Of course, some of our kids will take advantage of this communication divide. Thanks, again Doug for bridging the divide.

  6. tansey thomas

    Wow!To think it is taking you to make sense of and explain to the community the bizarre goings on at that School Board meeting. When was it explained to the community or even our elected officials that there is a truancy problem or an issue regarding provisional licences? When was it explained the potential courses of action under consideration? Was it none of our business? Is there a bunker mentality in the administrative office? Of course, some of our kids will take advantage of this communication divide. Thanks, again Doug for bridging the divide.

  7. tansey thomas

    Wow!To think it is taking you to make sense of and explain to the community the bizarre goings on at that School Board meeting. When was it explained to the community or even our elected officials that there is a truancy problem or an issue regarding provisional licences? When was it explained the potential courses of action under consideration? Was it none of our business? Is there a bunker mentality in the administrative office? Of course, some of our kids will take advantage of this communication divide. Thanks, again Doug for bridging the divide.

  8. tansey thomas

    Wow!To think it is taking you to make sense of and explain to the community the bizarre goings on at that School Board meeting. When was it explained to the community or even our elected officials that there is a truancy problem or an issue regarding provisional licences? When was it explained the potential courses of action under consideration? Was it none of our business? Is there a bunker mentality in the administrative office? Of course, some of our kids will take advantage of this communication divide. Thanks, again Doug for bridging the divide.

  9. Anonymous

    I most concerned about the targeting of students at a high school campus location for violations of the provisional driving law. How can that be legal even if they use secondary ciriteria to pull them over? DPD is targeting students in cars, at a school lacation, with the purpose of enforcing the provisional license law this does n ot appear borderline it appears illegal. ACLU lawyers can’t there be a declaratory judgemnt ruling sought in this case since they have done it and may do it again, this appears to be DPD policy? Is DPD subject to mandamus they are not executive, not legislative aren’t they administrative? This targeting seems blantanlty in violationof the inent and spirit of the law and MUST STOP. Legal help please come forward to assist the DPD in their interprtation of the law. This bothers me more than just about anything else I have heard and witnessed about the DPD. If the DPD will push the limits this far in this case what else are they willing to / or ALREADY HAVE pushed the limits on and infringe on civil/individual rights and then back tract and make post hoc justifications for their actions? Put a lid onthe DPD. I thought a new chief would make a difference, but his shows differently.

  10. Anonymous

    I most concerned about the targeting of students at a high school campus location for violations of the provisional driving law. How can that be legal even if they use secondary ciriteria to pull them over? DPD is targeting students in cars, at a school lacation, with the purpose of enforcing the provisional license law this does n ot appear borderline it appears illegal. ACLU lawyers can’t there be a declaratory judgemnt ruling sought in this case since they have done it and may do it again, this appears to be DPD policy? Is DPD subject to mandamus they are not executive, not legislative aren’t they administrative? This targeting seems blantanlty in violationof the inent and spirit of the law and MUST STOP. Legal help please come forward to assist the DPD in their interprtation of the law. This bothers me more than just about anything else I have heard and witnessed about the DPD. If the DPD will push the limits this far in this case what else are they willing to / or ALREADY HAVE pushed the limits on and infringe on civil/individual rights and then back tract and make post hoc justifications for their actions? Put a lid onthe DPD. I thought a new chief would make a difference, but his shows differently.

  11. Anonymous

    I most concerned about the targeting of students at a high school campus location for violations of the provisional driving law. How can that be legal even if they use secondary ciriteria to pull them over? DPD is targeting students in cars, at a school lacation, with the purpose of enforcing the provisional license law this does n ot appear borderline it appears illegal. ACLU lawyers can’t there be a declaratory judgemnt ruling sought in this case since they have done it and may do it again, this appears to be DPD policy? Is DPD subject to mandamus they are not executive, not legislative aren’t they administrative? This targeting seems blantanlty in violationof the inent and spirit of the law and MUST STOP. Legal help please come forward to assist the DPD in their interprtation of the law. This bothers me more than just about anything else I have heard and witnessed about the DPD. If the DPD will push the limits this far in this case what else are they willing to / or ALREADY HAVE pushed the limits on and infringe on civil/individual rights and then back tract and make post hoc justifications for their actions? Put a lid onthe DPD. I thought a new chief would make a difference, but his shows differently.

  12. Anonymous

    I most concerned about the targeting of students at a high school campus location for violations of the provisional driving law. How can that be legal even if they use secondary ciriteria to pull them over? DPD is targeting students in cars, at a school lacation, with the purpose of enforcing the provisional license law this does n ot appear borderline it appears illegal. ACLU lawyers can’t there be a declaratory judgemnt ruling sought in this case since they have done it and may do it again, this appears to be DPD policy? Is DPD subject to mandamus they are not executive, not legislative aren’t they administrative? This targeting seems blantanlty in violationof the inent and spirit of the law and MUST STOP. Legal help please come forward to assist the DPD in their interprtation of the law. This bothers me more than just about anything else I have heard and witnessed about the DPD. If the DPD will push the limits this far in this case what else are they willing to / or ALREADY HAVE pushed the limits on and infringe on civil/individual rights and then back tract and make post hoc justifications for their actions? Put a lid onthe DPD. I thought a new chief would make a difference, but his shows differently.

  13. tansey thomas

    By the way, as far as having a big community meeting with everybody there, there is one size fits all grouping that works. I like my town hall for youth and town hall for parents idea as the way to gain insight the concerns of those groups. I think such groupings could be part of the process toward a combined effort. DPD suggestion sounds too much like previous efforts that appareently failed in the long run and of course there is the Human Relations Commission’s fate.

  14. tansey thomas

    By the way, as far as having a big community meeting with everybody there, there is one size fits all grouping that works. I like my town hall for youth and town hall for parents idea as the way to gain insight the concerns of those groups. I think such groupings could be part of the process toward a combined effort. DPD suggestion sounds too much like previous efforts that appareently failed in the long run and of course there is the Human Relations Commission’s fate.

  15. tansey thomas

    By the way, as far as having a big community meeting with everybody there, there is one size fits all grouping that works. I like my town hall for youth and town hall for parents idea as the way to gain insight the concerns of those groups. I think such groupings could be part of the process toward a combined effort. DPD suggestion sounds too much like previous efforts that appareently failed in the long run and of course there is the Human Relations Commission’s fate.

  16. tansey thomas

    By the way, as far as having a big community meeting with everybody there, there is one size fits all grouping that works. I like my town hall for youth and town hall for parents idea as the way to gain insight the concerns of those groups. I think such groupings could be part of the process toward a combined effort. DPD suggestion sounds too much like previous efforts that appareently failed in the long run and of course there is the Human Relations Commission’s fate.

  17. Great and Small

    I would like to know how different this year’s or last year’s truancy rates compare to past years.

    I attended DHS over 10 years ago and I remember a lot of kids cutting classes then too.

    As for myself, I had taken a full course load up until my Senior year when I realized I only needed 4 classes to graduate. At that point I began skipping the unnecessary ones. I was also working late 25 hours a week. My mom got live call every night from the high school and I think I ended up having about 100+ absences.

  18. Great and Small

    I would like to know how different this year’s or last year’s truancy rates compare to past years.

    I attended DHS over 10 years ago and I remember a lot of kids cutting classes then too.

    As for myself, I had taken a full course load up until my Senior year when I realized I only needed 4 classes to graduate. At that point I began skipping the unnecessary ones. I was also working late 25 hours a week. My mom got live call every night from the high school and I think I ended up having about 100+ absences.

  19. Great and Small

    I would like to know how different this year’s or last year’s truancy rates compare to past years.

    I attended DHS over 10 years ago and I remember a lot of kids cutting classes then too.

    As for myself, I had taken a full course load up until my Senior year when I realized I only needed 4 classes to graduate. At that point I began skipping the unnecessary ones. I was also working late 25 hours a week. My mom got live call every night from the high school and I think I ended up having about 100+ absences.

  20. Great and Small

    I would like to know how different this year’s or last year’s truancy rates compare to past years.

    I attended DHS over 10 years ago and I remember a lot of kids cutting classes then too.

    As for myself, I had taken a full course load up until my Senior year when I realized I only needed 4 classes to graduate. At that point I began skipping the unnecessary ones. I was also working late 25 hours a week. My mom got live call every night from the high school and I think I ended up having about 100+ absences.

  21. Anonymous

    Very excellent reporting. Thank you for bringing some sense to a problem made more confusing and now more difficult to solve by the professionals who are supposed to be solving these kinds of problems. Your suggestions should have been part of a school district planning and strategy meeting.

  22. Anonymous

    Very excellent reporting. Thank you for bringing some sense to a problem made more confusing and now more difficult to solve by the professionals who are supposed to be solving these kinds of problems. Your suggestions should have been part of a school district planning and strategy meeting.

  23. Anonymous

    Very excellent reporting. Thank you for bringing some sense to a problem made more confusing and now more difficult to solve by the professionals who are supposed to be solving these kinds of problems. Your suggestions should have been part of a school district planning and strategy meeting.

  24. Anonymous

    Very excellent reporting. Thank you for bringing some sense to a problem made more confusing and now more difficult to solve by the professionals who are supposed to be solving these kinds of problems. Your suggestions should have been part of a school district planning and strategy meeting.

  25. Anonymous

    Very excellent reporting. Thank you for bringing some sense to a problem made more confusing and now more difficult to solve by the professionals who are supposed to be solving these kinds of problems. Your suggestions should have been part of a school district planning and strategy meeting.

    Richard Livingston

  26. Anonymous

    Very excellent reporting. Thank you for bringing some sense to a problem made more confusing and now more difficult to solve by the professionals who are supposed to be solving these kinds of problems. Your suggestions should have been part of a school district planning and strategy meeting.

    Richard Livingston

  27. Anonymous

    Very excellent reporting. Thank you for bringing some sense to a problem made more confusing and now more difficult to solve by the professionals who are supposed to be solving these kinds of problems. Your suggestions should have been part of a school district planning and strategy meeting.

    Richard Livingston

  28. Anonymous

    Very excellent reporting. Thank you for bringing some sense to a problem made more confusing and now more difficult to solve by the professionals who are supposed to be solving these kinds of problems. Your suggestions should have been part of a school district planning and strategy meeting.

    Richard Livingston

  29. Doug Paul Davis

    Tansey: that sounds like a good suggestion to me. I wasn’t trying to suggest a one-size fits all approach, only that we need to start engaging the community in these discussions.

  30. Doug Paul Davis

    Tansey: that sounds like a good suggestion to me. I wasn’t trying to suggest a one-size fits all approach, only that we need to start engaging the community in these discussions.

  31. Doug Paul Davis

    Tansey: that sounds like a good suggestion to me. I wasn’t trying to suggest a one-size fits all approach, only that we need to start engaging the community in these discussions.

  32. Doug Paul Davis

    Tansey: that sounds like a good suggestion to me. I wasn’t trying to suggest a one-size fits all approach, only that we need to start engaging the community in these discussions.

  33. Anonymous

    I attended DHS over 10 years ago and I remember a lot of kids cutting classes then too.

    maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!

  34. Anonymous

    I attended DHS over 10 years ago and I remember a lot of kids cutting classes then too.

    maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!

  35. Anonymous

    I attended DHS over 10 years ago and I remember a lot of kids cutting classes then too.

    maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!

  36. Anonymous

    I attended DHS over 10 years ago and I remember a lot of kids cutting classes then too.

    maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!

  37. Richard

    one has to wonder about Landy Black, the new police chief

    wouldn’t you think that the chief, before agreeing to participate in this effort with the District, would find out whether or not the Board had been informed about it and signed off on it?

    instead, the police swung into action, apparently based upon the representations of a mid-level administrator

    it appears that the police were all too enthusiastic to do so, and, it raises the question I raised the other day, how does this make the Black regime any different from the Hyde one?

    also, if the School Board was unaware of the truancy crackdown, and the involvement of the police department, was the City Council equally unaware of it and the participation of the police?

    all in all, it raises the question, who really makes the decisions in Davis? from this episode, it is really hard to tell, and it doesn’t appear to be the people that you would identify

    –Richard Estes

  38. Richard

    one has to wonder about Landy Black, the new police chief

    wouldn’t you think that the chief, before agreeing to participate in this effort with the District, would find out whether or not the Board had been informed about it and signed off on it?

    instead, the police swung into action, apparently based upon the representations of a mid-level administrator

    it appears that the police were all too enthusiastic to do so, and, it raises the question I raised the other day, how does this make the Black regime any different from the Hyde one?

    also, if the School Board was unaware of the truancy crackdown, and the involvement of the police department, was the City Council equally unaware of it and the participation of the police?

    all in all, it raises the question, who really makes the decisions in Davis? from this episode, it is really hard to tell, and it doesn’t appear to be the people that you would identify

    –Richard Estes

  39. Richard

    one has to wonder about Landy Black, the new police chief

    wouldn’t you think that the chief, before agreeing to participate in this effort with the District, would find out whether or not the Board had been informed about it and signed off on it?

    instead, the police swung into action, apparently based upon the representations of a mid-level administrator

    it appears that the police were all too enthusiastic to do so, and, it raises the question I raised the other day, how does this make the Black regime any different from the Hyde one?

    also, if the School Board was unaware of the truancy crackdown, and the involvement of the police department, was the City Council equally unaware of it and the participation of the police?

    all in all, it raises the question, who really makes the decisions in Davis? from this episode, it is really hard to tell, and it doesn’t appear to be the people that you would identify

    –Richard Estes

  40. Richard

    one has to wonder about Landy Black, the new police chief

    wouldn’t you think that the chief, before agreeing to participate in this effort with the District, would find out whether or not the Board had been informed about it and signed off on it?

    instead, the police swung into action, apparently based upon the representations of a mid-level administrator

    it appears that the police were all too enthusiastic to do so, and, it raises the question I raised the other day, how does this make the Black regime any different from the Hyde one?

    also, if the School Board was unaware of the truancy crackdown, and the involvement of the police department, was the City Council equally unaware of it and the participation of the police?

    all in all, it raises the question, who really makes the decisions in Davis? from this episode, it is really hard to tell, and it doesn’t appear to be the people that you would identify

    –Richard Estes

  41. Anonymous

    Community meeting to openly feel free to speak and question the policies of the DPD and tactics? Not a smart idea as we have seen in the past.. How can a citizen speak out against one issue and then expect protection on others. We need the police, but I owuld like them to actually show up to my house when it is being robbed. They know my name they know my face. I speak out on many issues, but this one not publically. NO retribution for me thanks. Thus, the no name post usually that is not my style.

  42. Anonymous

    Community meeting to openly feel free to speak and question the policies of the DPD and tactics? Not a smart idea as we have seen in the past.. How can a citizen speak out against one issue and then expect protection on others. We need the police, but I owuld like them to actually show up to my house when it is being robbed. They know my name they know my face. I speak out on many issues, but this one not publically. NO retribution for me thanks. Thus, the no name post usually that is not my style.

  43. Anonymous

    Community meeting to openly feel free to speak and question the policies of the DPD and tactics? Not a smart idea as we have seen in the past.. How can a citizen speak out against one issue and then expect protection on others. We need the police, but I owuld like them to actually show up to my house when it is being robbed. They know my name they know my face. I speak out on many issues, but this one not publically. NO retribution for me thanks. Thus, the no name post usually that is not my style.

  44. Anonymous

    Community meeting to openly feel free to speak and question the policies of the DPD and tactics? Not a smart idea as we have seen in the past.. How can a citizen speak out against one issue and then expect protection on others. We need the police, but I owuld like them to actually show up to my house when it is being robbed. They know my name they know my face. I speak out on many issues, but this one not publically. NO retribution for me thanks. Thus, the no name post usually that is not my style.

  45. Anonymous

    One thing to keep in mind – Davis Police step up patrols around our schools at the beginning of every school year.

    At the elementary schools, there is more of a problem of parents making U-Turns in front of the school, illegal parking, etc. that make it dangerous for the kids arriving on foot or bike. When I was on the PTA at Valley Oak, we used to call and request the police to come until people learned to follow the guidelines that were set up to handle the drop off/pick up crush. We did this after a child on a bike was hit by a car when parent made an illegal u-turn in front of the school one year.

    The neighborhoods around the High School complain about speeding, illegal parking, reckless driving by students, so the police step up patrols around the High School at the beginning of the school year.

    This happens every September.

  46. Anonymous

    One thing to keep in mind – Davis Police step up patrols around our schools at the beginning of every school year.

    At the elementary schools, there is more of a problem of parents making U-Turns in front of the school, illegal parking, etc. that make it dangerous for the kids arriving on foot or bike. When I was on the PTA at Valley Oak, we used to call and request the police to come until people learned to follow the guidelines that were set up to handle the drop off/pick up crush. We did this after a child on a bike was hit by a car when parent made an illegal u-turn in front of the school one year.

    The neighborhoods around the High School complain about speeding, illegal parking, reckless driving by students, so the police step up patrols around the High School at the beginning of the school year.

    This happens every September.

  47. Anonymous

    One thing to keep in mind – Davis Police step up patrols around our schools at the beginning of every school year.

    At the elementary schools, there is more of a problem of parents making U-Turns in front of the school, illegal parking, etc. that make it dangerous for the kids arriving on foot or bike. When I was on the PTA at Valley Oak, we used to call and request the police to come until people learned to follow the guidelines that were set up to handle the drop off/pick up crush. We did this after a child on a bike was hit by a car when parent made an illegal u-turn in front of the school one year.

    The neighborhoods around the High School complain about speeding, illegal parking, reckless driving by students, so the police step up patrols around the High School at the beginning of the school year.

    This happens every September.

  48. Anonymous

    One thing to keep in mind – Davis Police step up patrols around our schools at the beginning of every school year.

    At the elementary schools, there is more of a problem of parents making U-Turns in front of the school, illegal parking, etc. that make it dangerous for the kids arriving on foot or bike. When I was on the PTA at Valley Oak, we used to call and request the police to come until people learned to follow the guidelines that were set up to handle the drop off/pick up crush. We did this after a child on a bike was hit by a car when parent made an illegal u-turn in front of the school one year.

    The neighborhoods around the High School complain about speeding, illegal parking, reckless driving by students, so the police step up patrols around the High School at the beginning of the school year.

    This happens every September.

  49. davisite

    richard said:
    “…it raises the question I raised the other day, how does this make the Black regime any different from the Hyde one?”

    Chief Black’s experience in Seattle may have left him unprepared for the unconscionable level of incompetence that has been demonstrated here by DJUSD administration officials. His response to this debacle (defensively “circling the wagons” or openly dealing with the problem) will define whether he follows in Hyde’s footsteps or not.

  50. davisite

    richard said:
    “…it raises the question I raised the other day, how does this make the Black regime any different from the Hyde one?”

    Chief Black’s experience in Seattle may have left him unprepared for the unconscionable level of incompetence that has been demonstrated here by DJUSD administration officials. His response to this debacle (defensively “circling the wagons” or openly dealing with the problem) will define whether he follows in Hyde’s footsteps or not.

  51. davisite

    richard said:
    “…it raises the question I raised the other day, how does this make the Black regime any different from the Hyde one?”

    Chief Black’s experience in Seattle may have left him unprepared for the unconscionable level of incompetence that has been demonstrated here by DJUSD administration officials. His response to this debacle (defensively “circling the wagons” or openly dealing with the problem) will define whether he follows in Hyde’s footsteps or not.

  52. davisite

    richard said:
    “…it raises the question I raised the other day, how does this make the Black regime any different from the Hyde one?”

    Chief Black’s experience in Seattle may have left him unprepared for the unconscionable level of incompetence that has been demonstrated here by DJUSD administration officials. His response to this debacle (defensively “circling the wagons” or openly dealing with the problem) will define whether he follows in Hyde’s footsteps or not.

  53. Anonymous

    “maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!”

    It’s always soooo nice to see people quick to blame teachers for problems in the schools.

  54. Anonymous

    “maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!”

    It’s always soooo nice to see people quick to blame teachers for problems in the schools.

  55. Anonymous

    “maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!”

    It’s always soooo nice to see people quick to blame teachers for problems in the schools.

  56. Anonymous

    “maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!”

    It’s always soooo nice to see people quick to blame teachers for problems in the schools.

  57. Anonymous

    Anonymous said…
    “maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!”

    It’s always soooo nice to see people quick to blame teachers for problems in the schools.

    9/13/07 7:20 PM

    kewl: sarcasm, huh? Must’a been a interesting teacher who wrote that.

  58. Anonymous

    Anonymous said…
    “maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!”

    It’s always soooo nice to see people quick to blame teachers for problems in the schools.

    9/13/07 7:20 PM

    kewl: sarcasm, huh? Must’a been a interesting teacher who wrote that.

  59. Anonymous

    Anonymous said…
    “maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!”

    It’s always soooo nice to see people quick to blame teachers for problems in the schools.

    9/13/07 7:20 PM

    kewl: sarcasm, huh? Must’a been a interesting teacher who wrote that.

  60. Anonymous

    Anonymous said…
    “maybe if the DHS teachers could try and make their classes more interesting, then kids wouldn’t be so interesting in cutting them?!”

    It’s always soooo nice to see people quick to blame teachers for problems in the schools.

    9/13/07 7:20 PM

    kewl: sarcasm, huh? Must’a been a interesting teacher who wrote that.

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