Commentary: Going Negative Still Works… If you do it right

I was reading the Davis Enterprise post mortem on the Assembly campaign that they largely did not cover. I say that less as a means of boasting than true concern. It hit me on the Saturday before the election when the Yamada campaign was hosting a press conference in response to the “Latte Mailer” and the only press there was myself. Imagine being attacked, you do not have time to respond with your own mailer, and instead you have a press conference where the press does not show up. How do you get your message out?

As it turns out that slew of negative mailers did not help Ed Voice or Christopher Cabaldon. The public largely had either seen through it or tuned out by that point and Mariko Yamada won a narrow but surprising victory both in the pre-election absentee ballots and on election day itself.

Nevertheless, though we had no access to polls, it was easy to see that Cabaldon was comfortably ahead four weeks before the election. According to him that translated to a 14-point lead that felt to most of us like a 24-point lead.

And while Davis Enterprise Columnist Bob Dunning spends a good portion of his column yesterday complaining about the onslaught of ads in his mailbox–the ads by and large worked.

Did Cabaldon hit on too many mailers with help from the IEs? Probably. But as he pointed out to me, in Davis people were complaining about the quantity, in parts of Solano, they did not even know there was an election.

Most of the early Cabaldon pieces were positive ads, designed to sell the candidacy of Cabaldon. They were not primarily negative ads.

In the Enterprise article Cabaldon found the culprit by examining the polls.

“Cabaldon, on the other hand, said today he has reviewed polling that organizations did in the weeks leading up to the election and there is no doubt about what spoiled his lead: negative mailers.”

It seems as soon as the negative ads came out, Cabaldon was thrown off-balance. Or at least his IEs were.

Bob Dunning makes a good point, the Farmer’s Market ad was largely a good one, but there was one key mistake that people noted.

Dunning writes:

“Oh yeah, I forgot. Chris used the Farmers’ Market as a backdrop for one of his TV ads where he tried to suggest to Davis voters that he was one of us with the closing words: ‘But this is Davis and we’re smarter than that.’

We? Does that suggest some sort of brotherhood between the citizens of Davis and candidate Cabaldon?”

Bob Dunning is correct here, anyone knows that Christopher Cabaldon is not from Davis and so when he says, “we’re smarter than that,” it rings hollow and sounds like pandering.

But the larger points that Bob Dunning makes are wrong. Was it nasty? Oh sure. But without the nasty Yamada IEs, she is not in the race. She does not win.

So here are the real lessons that you must learn from this race:

1. Too many positives mailers early by Cabaldon. It is nice that he was trumpeting himself, but you only need a handful, not multiple mailers each day.

2. Going negative works even when the issue is somewhat silly like the car boot. Or perhaps others were more offended by the car boot than I think.

3. Be the first one to go negative. Cabaldon was the second one in the fight and for some reason it always looks defensive when you respond.

4. Negative ads have to be simple. The Wal Mart ad was effective for the Yamada side because everyone understands the issue around Wal Mart. The Cabaldon response was too difficult to discuss. If you have to explain it, you lose. If someone says you take Wal Mart money and brought Wal Mart to West Sacramento, it is hard to response I actually was against it, but I voted for it due to legal issues, even though I have been bragging about redevelopment in West Sacramento and Wal Mart has come up as part of the redevelopment. Sorry, too long.

5. Negative ads can backfire. You cannot just make stuff up that sounds non-credible. Three of the attack ads by Ed Voice just made no sense–the pay raise, the Latte, and especially the Yolo County Housing Authority. As dumb as you think the electorate is, they seem to see through some of the ads.

Matt Rexroad was quoted in the article arguing that Mariko Yamada’s personal precinct walking did not factor in. I tend to agree on that point. However, there is secondary point and that is that the unions had 250 people in the field on the weekend before and the day of the election. They did a better job of getting out their vote than Cabaldon who could only manage 100 people in the field during that time. And I think that does matter.

Bottom line folks, negative ads work but they are not a guarantee. They have to hit on vulnerabilities with the candidate. I just do not think that Yamada’s vulnerabilities rested with her support of pay increases, spending on Latte program, or her handling of the Yolo County Housing Authority. Whereas Cabaldon did have apparent vulnerabilities with the perception that he seemed to think he was above the law and the perception that he was beholden to big developers and big box retail. Thus the Yamada IEs were more effective in the end, than Christopher Cabaldon’s.

—Doug Paul Davis reporting

About The Author

David Greenwald is the founder, editor, and executive director of the Davis Vanguard. He founded the Vanguard in 2006. David Greenwald moved to Davis in 1996 to attend Graduate School at UC Davis in Political Science. He lives in South Davis with his wife Cecilia Escamilla Greenwald and three children.

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136 Comments

  1. eye of the beholder

    Cabaldon’s lead was greatest when the voters had NO IDEA who he was and had made no personal judgement about him.. His best campaign strategy should have been to literally stay out of the public’s view and leave it at 3rd person endorsements of Yolo politicos and the certainty of his eventual “coronation”. While I never heard him speak in person, I was struck by how little political gravitas,authenticity and likeability his camapign images exuded. Mariko, on the other hand, exuded authenticity, warmth and likeability. Bottom line?..in the most literal sense, he was just not a politically attactive candidate.

  2. eye of the beholder

    Cabaldon’s lead was greatest when the voters had NO IDEA who he was and had made no personal judgement about him.. His best campaign strategy should have been to literally stay out of the public’s view and leave it at 3rd person endorsements of Yolo politicos and the certainty of his eventual “coronation”. While I never heard him speak in person, I was struck by how little political gravitas,authenticity and likeability his camapign images exuded. Mariko, on the other hand, exuded authenticity, warmth and likeability. Bottom line?..in the most literal sense, he was just not a politically attactive candidate.

  3. eye of the beholder

    Cabaldon’s lead was greatest when the voters had NO IDEA who he was and had made no personal judgement about him.. His best campaign strategy should have been to literally stay out of the public’s view and leave it at 3rd person endorsements of Yolo politicos and the certainty of his eventual “coronation”. While I never heard him speak in person, I was struck by how little political gravitas,authenticity and likeability his camapign images exuded. Mariko, on the other hand, exuded authenticity, warmth and likeability. Bottom line?..in the most literal sense, he was just not a politically attactive candidate.

  4. eye of the beholder

    Cabaldon’s lead was greatest when the voters had NO IDEA who he was and had made no personal judgement about him.. His best campaign strategy should have been to literally stay out of the public’s view and leave it at 3rd person endorsements of Yolo politicos and the certainty of his eventual “coronation”. While I never heard him speak in person, I was struck by how little political gravitas,authenticity and likeability his camapign images exuded. Mariko, on the other hand, exuded authenticity, warmth and likeability. Bottom line?..in the most literal sense, he was just not a politically attactive candidate.

  5. Doug Paul Davis

    Part of the problem is that few of those mailers actually came from his campaign.

    I covered him as much as anyone and he was a good speaker, good command of the issues, very impressive when I interviewed him the depth of his knowledge on a variety of issues.

    Ultimately the campaign failed to get that Cabaldon out to the voters.

  6. Doug Paul Davis

    Part of the problem is that few of those mailers actually came from his campaign.

    I covered him as much as anyone and he was a good speaker, good command of the issues, very impressive when I interviewed him the depth of his knowledge on a variety of issues.

    Ultimately the campaign failed to get that Cabaldon out to the voters.

  7. Doug Paul Davis

    Part of the problem is that few of those mailers actually came from his campaign.

    I covered him as much as anyone and he was a good speaker, good command of the issues, very impressive when I interviewed him the depth of his knowledge on a variety of issues.

    Ultimately the campaign failed to get that Cabaldon out to the voters.

  8. Doug Paul Davis

    Part of the problem is that few of those mailers actually came from his campaign.

    I covered him as much as anyone and he was a good speaker, good command of the issues, very impressive when I interviewed him the depth of his knowledge on a variety of issues.

    Ultimately the campaign failed to get that Cabaldon out to the voters.

  9. Anonymous

    From what I’ve heard, prior to the release of the “Boot” negative ads, Cabaldon enjoyed a roughly 17 point lead in the polling. With that ad, it dropped to around 10 points.

    To me, the boot ad was less important in terms of “he has a lot of tickets and is disregarding government” and more of a gut reaction, well, to Cabaldon’s amazing car. It’s not the car of a small town mayor, it’s the car of the former President and CEO of EdVoice, and the car of an aspiring politician. When you combine the gut reaction to the car with the connotation of disregarding government, it is really easy to see how the elitist, pro-business, etc. image can coalesce around him in a negative way.

  10. Anonymous

    From what I’ve heard, prior to the release of the “Boot” negative ads, Cabaldon enjoyed a roughly 17 point lead in the polling. With that ad, it dropped to around 10 points.

    To me, the boot ad was less important in terms of “he has a lot of tickets and is disregarding government” and more of a gut reaction, well, to Cabaldon’s amazing car. It’s not the car of a small town mayor, it’s the car of the former President and CEO of EdVoice, and the car of an aspiring politician. When you combine the gut reaction to the car with the connotation of disregarding government, it is really easy to see how the elitist, pro-business, etc. image can coalesce around him in a negative way.

  11. Anonymous

    From what I’ve heard, prior to the release of the “Boot” negative ads, Cabaldon enjoyed a roughly 17 point lead in the polling. With that ad, it dropped to around 10 points.

    To me, the boot ad was less important in terms of “he has a lot of tickets and is disregarding government” and more of a gut reaction, well, to Cabaldon’s amazing car. It’s not the car of a small town mayor, it’s the car of the former President and CEO of EdVoice, and the car of an aspiring politician. When you combine the gut reaction to the car with the connotation of disregarding government, it is really easy to see how the elitist, pro-business, etc. image can coalesce around him in a negative way.

  12. Anonymous

    From what I’ve heard, prior to the release of the “Boot” negative ads, Cabaldon enjoyed a roughly 17 point lead in the polling. With that ad, it dropped to around 10 points.

    To me, the boot ad was less important in terms of “he has a lot of tickets and is disregarding government” and more of a gut reaction, well, to Cabaldon’s amazing car. It’s not the car of a small town mayor, it’s the car of the former President and CEO of EdVoice, and the car of an aspiring politician. When you combine the gut reaction to the car with the connotation of disregarding government, it is really easy to see how the elitist, pro-business, etc. image can coalesce around him in a negative way.

  13. campaign watcher

    I seem to remember a picture in the Enterprise of people who had gathered at the Art Center to speak out in protest of the latte attack piece, so I do think that it was covered in The Enterprise.

    Jim Provenza, along with other Davis electeds and citizens protested Yolo County including land around Davis in a study for possible development at a County Board of Supervisors meeting. This resulted in 1)Helen Thomson endorsing John Ferrera over Jim Provenza in the Supervisors race. 2) People in the “progressive” camp in Davis pulling their support for Mariko and some backing Cabaldon in the Assembly race. This made a really strange alliance in the Assembly race by people who opposed each other in the Yolo County Supervisor’s race. It seemed very illogical – an emotional reaction in both instances.

    However, Mariko remained steadfast in her support for Jim Provenza and and vice versa. Jim’s popularity and his endorsement of Mariko could have played a part in Mariko’s success.

    I wonder how much Ferrera was hurt by the Cabaldon campaign considering his endorsers were very much the same and the voters may have grouped the candidates in different races together – Ferrera/Cabaldon vs Yamada/Provenza.

  14. campaign watcher

    I seem to remember a picture in the Enterprise of people who had gathered at the Art Center to speak out in protest of the latte attack piece, so I do think that it was covered in The Enterprise.

    Jim Provenza, along with other Davis electeds and citizens protested Yolo County including land around Davis in a study for possible development at a County Board of Supervisors meeting. This resulted in 1)Helen Thomson endorsing John Ferrera over Jim Provenza in the Supervisors race. 2) People in the “progressive” camp in Davis pulling their support for Mariko and some backing Cabaldon in the Assembly race. This made a really strange alliance in the Assembly race by people who opposed each other in the Yolo County Supervisor’s race. It seemed very illogical – an emotional reaction in both instances.

    However, Mariko remained steadfast in her support for Jim Provenza and and vice versa. Jim’s popularity and his endorsement of Mariko could have played a part in Mariko’s success.

    I wonder how much Ferrera was hurt by the Cabaldon campaign considering his endorsers were very much the same and the voters may have grouped the candidates in different races together – Ferrera/Cabaldon vs Yamada/Provenza.

  15. campaign watcher

    I seem to remember a picture in the Enterprise of people who had gathered at the Art Center to speak out in protest of the latte attack piece, so I do think that it was covered in The Enterprise.

    Jim Provenza, along with other Davis electeds and citizens protested Yolo County including land around Davis in a study for possible development at a County Board of Supervisors meeting. This resulted in 1)Helen Thomson endorsing John Ferrera over Jim Provenza in the Supervisors race. 2) People in the “progressive” camp in Davis pulling their support for Mariko and some backing Cabaldon in the Assembly race. This made a really strange alliance in the Assembly race by people who opposed each other in the Yolo County Supervisor’s race. It seemed very illogical – an emotional reaction in both instances.

    However, Mariko remained steadfast in her support for Jim Provenza and and vice versa. Jim’s popularity and his endorsement of Mariko could have played a part in Mariko’s success.

    I wonder how much Ferrera was hurt by the Cabaldon campaign considering his endorsers were very much the same and the voters may have grouped the candidates in different races together – Ferrera/Cabaldon vs Yamada/Provenza.

  16. campaign watcher

    I seem to remember a picture in the Enterprise of people who had gathered at the Art Center to speak out in protest of the latte attack piece, so I do think that it was covered in The Enterprise.

    Jim Provenza, along with other Davis electeds and citizens protested Yolo County including land around Davis in a study for possible development at a County Board of Supervisors meeting. This resulted in 1)Helen Thomson endorsing John Ferrera over Jim Provenza in the Supervisors race. 2) People in the “progressive” camp in Davis pulling their support for Mariko and some backing Cabaldon in the Assembly race. This made a really strange alliance in the Assembly race by people who opposed each other in the Yolo County Supervisor’s race. It seemed very illogical – an emotional reaction in both instances.

    However, Mariko remained steadfast in her support for Jim Provenza and and vice versa. Jim’s popularity and his endorsement of Mariko could have played a part in Mariko’s success.

    I wonder how much Ferrera was hurt by the Cabaldon campaign considering his endorsers were very much the same and the voters may have grouped the candidates in different races together – Ferrera/Cabaldon vs Yamada/Provenza.

  17. Anonymous

    “Maybe he lost because of his sexual orientation. Northern California, including Davis, is much more redneck than you think.”

    I sure hope not.

  18. Anonymous

    “Maybe he lost because of his sexual orientation. Northern California, including Davis, is much more redneck than you think.”

    I sure hope not.

  19. Anonymous

    “Maybe he lost because of his sexual orientation. Northern California, including Davis, is much more redneck than you think.”

    I sure hope not.

  20. Anonymous

    “Maybe he lost because of his sexual orientation. Northern California, including Davis, is much more redneck than you think.”

    I sure hope not.

  21. wdf

    “Anonymous said…
    Maybe he lost because of his sexual orientation. Northern California, including Davis, is much more redneck than you think.”

    His sexual never entered my mind until you mentioned it. My impressions of Cabaldon were admittedly superficial. I don’t watch TV, so the information I got on him was from mailers (and lots of them), and whatever showed up in this blog or the Enterprise.

    I don’t know DPD’s personal preference in this race, but his coverage of that campaign in this blog led me to have a negative impression of Cabaldon, especially when the latte ad and the payraise issues came up. His (DPD’s) fact-checking pieces led me to have a more negative impression of him (Cabaldon).

    Am I stupid and gullible? I don’t know, maybe. But campaigns have to be able to manage impressions and key messages. If the IE group(s) hadn’t mailed out the latte and payraise flyers, I might have voted for him.

  22. wdf

    “Anonymous said…
    Maybe he lost because of his sexual orientation. Northern California, including Davis, is much more redneck than you think.”

    His sexual never entered my mind until you mentioned it. My impressions of Cabaldon were admittedly superficial. I don’t watch TV, so the information I got on him was from mailers (and lots of them), and whatever showed up in this blog or the Enterprise.

    I don’t know DPD’s personal preference in this race, but his coverage of that campaign in this blog led me to have a negative impression of Cabaldon, especially when the latte ad and the payraise issues came up. His (DPD’s) fact-checking pieces led me to have a more negative impression of him (Cabaldon).

    Am I stupid and gullible? I don’t know, maybe. But campaigns have to be able to manage impressions and key messages. If the IE group(s) hadn’t mailed out the latte and payraise flyers, I might have voted for him.

  23. wdf

    “Anonymous said…
    Maybe he lost because of his sexual orientation. Northern California, including Davis, is much more redneck than you think.”

    His sexual never entered my mind until you mentioned it. My impressions of Cabaldon were admittedly superficial. I don’t watch TV, so the information I got on him was from mailers (and lots of them), and whatever showed up in this blog or the Enterprise.

    I don’t know DPD’s personal preference in this race, but his coverage of that campaign in this blog led me to have a negative impression of Cabaldon, especially when the latte ad and the payraise issues came up. His (DPD’s) fact-checking pieces led me to have a more negative impression of him (Cabaldon).

    Am I stupid and gullible? I don’t know, maybe. But campaigns have to be able to manage impressions and key messages. If the IE group(s) hadn’t mailed out the latte and payraise flyers, I might have voted for him.

  24. wdf

    “Anonymous said…
    Maybe he lost because of his sexual orientation. Northern California, including Davis, is much more redneck than you think.”

    His sexual never entered my mind until you mentioned it. My impressions of Cabaldon were admittedly superficial. I don’t watch TV, so the information I got on him was from mailers (and lots of them), and whatever showed up in this blog or the Enterprise.

    I don’t know DPD’s personal preference in this race, but his coverage of that campaign in this blog led me to have a negative impression of Cabaldon, especially when the latte ad and the payraise issues came up. His (DPD’s) fact-checking pieces led me to have a more negative impression of him (Cabaldon).

    Am I stupid and gullible? I don’t know, maybe. But campaigns have to be able to manage impressions and key messages. If the IE group(s) hadn’t mailed out the latte and payraise flyers, I might have voted for him.

  25. Anonymous

    in the waning 2 weeks, i was wavering in my choice for assembly candidate, but when the “subsidized latte” hit piece landed in my mailbox, that sealed the deal for both voters in our household.

    We cast our votes for Mariko.

  26. Anonymous

    in the waning 2 weeks, i was wavering in my choice for assembly candidate, but when the “subsidized latte” hit piece landed in my mailbox, that sealed the deal for both voters in our household.

    We cast our votes for Mariko.

  27. Anonymous

    in the waning 2 weeks, i was wavering in my choice for assembly candidate, but when the “subsidized latte” hit piece landed in my mailbox, that sealed the deal for both voters in our household.

    We cast our votes for Mariko.

  28. Anonymous

    in the waning 2 weeks, i was wavering in my choice for assembly candidate, but when the “subsidized latte” hit piece landed in my mailbox, that sealed the deal for both voters in our household.

    We cast our votes for Mariko.

  29. anonymous

    Mariko’s victory over Cabaldon appears to have punctured the myth of Supervisor Thomsen’s(one of his ardent endorsers) political clout with the Yolo electorate. This should strengthen Jim Provensa’s hand and his position on “local control” of Davis’ peripheral growth on the BOS.

  30. anonymous

    Mariko’s victory over Cabaldon appears to have punctured the myth of Supervisor Thomsen’s(one of his ardent endorsers) political clout with the Yolo electorate. This should strengthen Jim Provensa’s hand and his position on “local control” of Davis’ peripheral growth on the BOS.

  31. anonymous

    Mariko’s victory over Cabaldon appears to have punctured the myth of Supervisor Thomsen’s(one of his ardent endorsers) political clout with the Yolo electorate. This should strengthen Jim Provensa’s hand and his position on “local control” of Davis’ peripheral growth on the BOS.

  32. anonymous

    Mariko’s victory over Cabaldon appears to have punctured the myth of Supervisor Thomsen’s(one of his ardent endorsers) political clout with the Yolo electorate. This should strengthen Jim Provensa’s hand and his position on “local control” of Davis’ peripheral growth on the BOS.

  33. Simple Logic

    11:03, That’s quite a contortionist stretch logic when you consider Yamada and Thomson had the identical position on peripheral growth: supporting more study.

    If anything, the votes for Yamada could be interpreted more as a validation of her own position ( studying peripheral growth) than somehow construing a vote for Yamada as a vote against her opponent’s endorser’s position on the matter.

    Davis voters supported Yamada, fully aware that she supported studying peripheral growth. Yet, I doubt it was a deciding factor in the race.

    A more direct interpretation of Davis voter attitudes on peripheral growth would be the council race where clearly the more moderate slow-growth candidates won by wide margins.

  34. Simple Logic

    11:03, That’s quite a contortionist stretch logic when you consider Yamada and Thomson had the identical position on peripheral growth: supporting more study.

    If anything, the votes for Yamada could be interpreted more as a validation of her own position ( studying peripheral growth) than somehow construing a vote for Yamada as a vote against her opponent’s endorser’s position on the matter.

    Davis voters supported Yamada, fully aware that she supported studying peripheral growth. Yet, I doubt it was a deciding factor in the race.

    A more direct interpretation of Davis voter attitudes on peripheral growth would be the council race where clearly the more moderate slow-growth candidates won by wide margins.

  35. Simple Logic

    11:03, That’s quite a contortionist stretch logic when you consider Yamada and Thomson had the identical position on peripheral growth: supporting more study.

    If anything, the votes for Yamada could be interpreted more as a validation of her own position ( studying peripheral growth) than somehow construing a vote for Yamada as a vote against her opponent’s endorser’s position on the matter.

    Davis voters supported Yamada, fully aware that she supported studying peripheral growth. Yet, I doubt it was a deciding factor in the race.

    A more direct interpretation of Davis voter attitudes on peripheral growth would be the council race where clearly the more moderate slow-growth candidates won by wide margins.

  36. Simple Logic

    11:03, That’s quite a contortionist stretch logic when you consider Yamada and Thomson had the identical position on peripheral growth: supporting more study.

    If anything, the votes for Yamada could be interpreted more as a validation of her own position ( studying peripheral growth) than somehow construing a vote for Yamada as a vote against her opponent’s endorser’s position on the matter.

    Davis voters supported Yamada, fully aware that she supported studying peripheral growth. Yet, I doubt it was a deciding factor in the race.

    A more direct interpretation of Davis voter attitudes on peripheral growth would be the council race where clearly the more moderate slow-growth candidates won by wide margins.

  37. Anonymous

    Hey Craig Reynolds,

    What are you gonna do now that your long-term money machine might be over? You’ll lose Helen’s seat, too, as you did Measure X, Mariko’s supervisor seat, and Lois’ Assembly seat. Maybe she will win the Senate and keep you busy and out of city politics.

  38. Anonymous

    Hey Craig Reynolds,

    What are you gonna do now that your long-term money machine might be over? You’ll lose Helen’s seat, too, as you did Measure X, Mariko’s supervisor seat, and Lois’ Assembly seat. Maybe she will win the Senate and keep you busy and out of city politics.

  39. Anonymous

    Hey Craig Reynolds,

    What are you gonna do now that your long-term money machine might be over? You’ll lose Helen’s seat, too, as you did Measure X, Mariko’s supervisor seat, and Lois’ Assembly seat. Maybe she will win the Senate and keep you busy and out of city politics.

  40. Anonymous

    Hey Craig Reynolds,

    What are you gonna do now that your long-term money machine might be over? You’ll lose Helen’s seat, too, as you did Measure X, Mariko’s supervisor seat, and Lois’ Assembly seat. Maybe she will win the Senate and keep you busy and out of city politics.

  41. 2 years of negative results

    So the thing to take home from this is that Yamada’s backers are negative people, who expect a return on their investment of negativity.
    Yes, she will make a fine representative…
    Whereas the more intelligent and informed candidate lost, leaving us with, well….her.
    joy.

  42. 2 years of negative results

    So the thing to take home from this is that Yamada’s backers are negative people, who expect a return on their investment of negativity.
    Yes, she will make a fine representative…
    Whereas the more intelligent and informed candidate lost, leaving us with, well….her.
    joy.

  43. 2 years of negative results

    So the thing to take home from this is that Yamada’s backers are negative people, who expect a return on their investment of negativity.
    Yes, she will make a fine representative…
    Whereas the more intelligent and informed candidate lost, leaving us with, well….her.
    joy.

  44. 2 years of negative results

    So the thing to take home from this is that Yamada’s backers are negative people, who expect a return on their investment of negativity.
    Yes, she will make a fine representative…
    Whereas the more intelligent and informed candidate lost, leaving us with, well….her.
    joy.

  45. Richard

    Simple Logic said…

    11:03, That’s quite a contortionist stretch logic when you consider Yamada and Thomson had the identical position on peripheral growth: supporting more study.

    Not really. Thomson and Yamada didn’t get along. You are making the classic mistake of assuming that agreement on the issues equals personal compatibility. For the rest of us, it’s probably pretty meaningless, but in the world of local political competition, for them, it’s a big deal.

    –Richard Estes

  46. Richard

    Simple Logic said…

    11:03, That’s quite a contortionist stretch logic when you consider Yamada and Thomson had the identical position on peripheral growth: supporting more study.

    Not really. Thomson and Yamada didn’t get along. You are making the classic mistake of assuming that agreement on the issues equals personal compatibility. For the rest of us, it’s probably pretty meaningless, but in the world of local political competition, for them, it’s a big deal.

    –Richard Estes

  47. Richard

    Simple Logic said…

    11:03, That’s quite a contortionist stretch logic when you consider Yamada and Thomson had the identical position on peripheral growth: supporting more study.

    Not really. Thomson and Yamada didn’t get along. You are making the classic mistake of assuming that agreement on the issues equals personal compatibility. For the rest of us, it’s probably pretty meaningless, but in the world of local political competition, for them, it’s a big deal.

    –Richard Estes

  48. Richard

    Simple Logic said…

    11:03, That’s quite a contortionist stretch logic when you consider Yamada and Thomson had the identical position on peripheral growth: supporting more study.

    Not really. Thomson and Yamada didn’t get along. You are making the classic mistake of assuming that agreement on the issues equals personal compatibility. For the rest of us, it’s probably pretty meaningless, but in the world of local political competition, for them, it’s a big deal.

    –Richard Estes

  49. Anonymous

    Bob Dunning was not wrong. Cabaldon shot himself in the foot for not paying parking tickets and taxes. Someone who does that is a scofflaw and has little or no personal integrity and that’s what people tuned in on. Speaking of personal integrity; DPD why won’t you or Cecilia answer the question about,
    C.A.R.O.L.E.

  50. Anonymous

    Bob Dunning was not wrong. Cabaldon shot himself in the foot for not paying parking tickets and taxes. Someone who does that is a scofflaw and has little or no personal integrity and that’s what people tuned in on. Speaking of personal integrity; DPD why won’t you or Cecilia answer the question about,
    C.A.R.O.L.E.

  51. Anonymous

    Bob Dunning was not wrong. Cabaldon shot himself in the foot for not paying parking tickets and taxes. Someone who does that is a scofflaw and has little or no personal integrity and that’s what people tuned in on. Speaking of personal integrity; DPD why won’t you or Cecilia answer the question about,
    C.A.R.O.L.E.

  52. Anonymous

    Bob Dunning was not wrong. Cabaldon shot himself in the foot for not paying parking tickets and taxes. Someone who does that is a scofflaw and has little or no personal integrity and that’s what people tuned in on. Speaking of personal integrity; DPD why won’t you or Cecilia answer the question about,
    C.A.R.O.L.E.

  53. constant vigilance

    “A more direct interpretation of Davis voter attitudes on peripheral growth would be the council race where clearly the more moderate slow-growth candidates won by wide margins.”

    …wishful thinking, I’m afraid, SIMPLE logic. Saylor and Souza will be treading very lightly on peripheral growth issues as both hope to survive another Council term(which neither wanted) before trying for higher local office. Any
    suggestion of their “old ways” and the political roof will come down on their heads.

  54. constant vigilance

    “A more direct interpretation of Davis voter attitudes on peripheral growth would be the council race where clearly the more moderate slow-growth candidates won by wide margins.”

    …wishful thinking, I’m afraid, SIMPLE logic. Saylor and Souza will be treading very lightly on peripheral growth issues as both hope to survive another Council term(which neither wanted) before trying for higher local office. Any
    suggestion of their “old ways” and the political roof will come down on their heads.

  55. constant vigilance

    “A more direct interpretation of Davis voter attitudes on peripheral growth would be the council race where clearly the more moderate slow-growth candidates won by wide margins.”

    …wishful thinking, I’m afraid, SIMPLE logic. Saylor and Souza will be treading very lightly on peripheral growth issues as both hope to survive another Council term(which neither wanted) before trying for higher local office. Any
    suggestion of their “old ways” and the political roof will come down on their heads.

  56. constant vigilance

    “A more direct interpretation of Davis voter attitudes on peripheral growth would be the council race where clearly the more moderate slow-growth candidates won by wide margins.”

    …wishful thinking, I’m afraid, SIMPLE logic. Saylor and Souza will be treading very lightly on peripheral growth issues as both hope to survive another Council term(which neither wanted) before trying for higher local office. Any
    suggestion of their “old ways” and the political roof will come down on their heads.

  57. disregarding the campaign of misinformation

    annonymous 6:32 pm – What’s with the repeated C.A.R.O.L.E. questions? It’s annoying, really. Since you post annonymously, it is difficult to determine if you are one person or many…just like CAROLE.

    Everytime you bring it up, it just prompts people to search for information to find out what you are talking about and keeps past issues alive.

  58. disregarding the campaign of m

    annonymous 6:32 pm – What’s with the repeated C.A.R.O.L.E. questions? It’s annoying, really. Since you post annonymously, it is difficult to determine if you are one person or many…just like CAROLE.

    Everytime you bring it up, it just prompts people to search for information to find out what you are talking about and keeps past issues alive.

  59. disregarding the campaign of m

    annonymous 6:32 pm – What’s with the repeated C.A.R.O.L.E. questions? It’s annoying, really. Since you post annonymously, it is difficult to determine if you are one person or many…just like CAROLE.

    Everytime you bring it up, it just prompts people to search for information to find out what you are talking about and keeps past issues alive.

  60. disregarding the campaign of m

    annonymous 6:32 pm – What’s with the repeated C.A.R.O.L.E. questions? It’s annoying, really. Since you post annonymously, it is difficult to determine if you are one person or many…just like CAROLE.

    Everytime you bring it up, it just prompts people to search for information to find out what you are talking about and keeps past issues alive.

  61. Anonymous

    “DPD why won’t you or Cecilia answer the question”

    Just a guess but maybe they don’t feel you are entitled to an answer if you are not willing to reveal who you are or follow up on their request that you make a phone call? The idea that an anonymous individual has the right to demand answers is beyond my understanding. Why do you care so much that you are willing to post over and over again but not enough that you are not willing to reveal your name or make a call that’s what I demand to know as an anonymous poster?

  62. Anonymous

    “DPD why won’t you or Cecilia answer the question”

    Just a guess but maybe they don’t feel you are entitled to an answer if you are not willing to reveal who you are or follow up on their request that you make a phone call? The idea that an anonymous individual has the right to demand answers is beyond my understanding. Why do you care so much that you are willing to post over and over again but not enough that you are not willing to reveal your name or make a call that’s what I demand to know as an anonymous poster?

  63. Anonymous

    “DPD why won’t you or Cecilia answer the question”

    Just a guess but maybe they don’t feel you are entitled to an answer if you are not willing to reveal who you are or follow up on their request that you make a phone call? The idea that an anonymous individual has the right to demand answers is beyond my understanding. Why do you care so much that you are willing to post over and over again but not enough that you are not willing to reveal your name or make a call that’s what I demand to know as an anonymous poster?

  64. Anonymous

    “DPD why won’t you or Cecilia answer the question”

    Just a guess but maybe they don’t feel you are entitled to an answer if you are not willing to reveal who you are or follow up on their request that you make a phone call? The idea that an anonymous individual has the right to demand answers is beyond my understanding. Why do you care so much that you are willing to post over and over again but not enough that you are not willing to reveal your name or make a call that’s what I demand to know as an anonymous poster?

  65. Anonymous

    “Just a guess but maybe they don’t feel you are entitled to an answer if you are not willing to reveal who you are or follow up on their request that you make a phone call? The idea that an anonymous individual has the right to demand answers is beyond my understanding. Why do you care so much that you are willing to post over and over again but not enough that you are not willing to reveal your name or make a call that’s what I demand to know as an anonymous poster?”

    If DPD demands accountability and transparency from others, then he should exemplify it himself.

    The fact that he hasn’t addressed it pretty much confirms any suspicions. Again, if he has nothing to hide, why hide from the subject. Hiding under the protection of a “blog” is irrelevant. It comes down to personal integrity, which he expects of others.

  66. Anonymous

    “Just a guess but maybe they don’t feel you are entitled to an answer if you are not willing to reveal who you are or follow up on their request that you make a phone call? The idea that an anonymous individual has the right to demand answers is beyond my understanding. Why do you care so much that you are willing to post over and over again but not enough that you are not willing to reveal your name or make a call that’s what I demand to know as an anonymous poster?”

    If DPD demands accountability and transparency from others, then he should exemplify it himself.

    The fact that he hasn’t addressed it pretty much confirms any suspicions. Again, if he has nothing to hide, why hide from the subject. Hiding under the protection of a “blog” is irrelevant. It comes down to personal integrity, which he expects of others.

  67. Anonymous

    “Just a guess but maybe they don’t feel you are entitled to an answer if you are not willing to reveal who you are or follow up on their request that you make a phone call? The idea that an anonymous individual has the right to demand answers is beyond my understanding. Why do you care so much that you are willing to post over and over again but not enough that you are not willing to reveal your name or make a call that’s what I demand to know as an anonymous poster?”

    If DPD demands accountability and transparency from others, then he should exemplify it himself.

    The fact that he hasn’t addressed it pretty much confirms any suspicions. Again, if he has nothing to hide, why hide from the subject. Hiding under the protection of a “blog” is irrelevant. It comes down to personal integrity, which he expects of others.

  68. Anonymous

    “Just a guess but maybe they don’t feel you are entitled to an answer if you are not willing to reveal who you are or follow up on their request that you make a phone call? The idea that an anonymous individual has the right to demand answers is beyond my understanding. Why do you care so much that you are willing to post over and over again but not enough that you are not willing to reveal your name or make a call that’s what I demand to know as an anonymous poster?”

    If DPD demands accountability and transparency from others, then he should exemplify it himself.

    The fact that he hasn’t addressed it pretty much confirms any suspicions. Again, if he has nothing to hide, why hide from the subject. Hiding under the protection of a “blog” is irrelevant. It comes down to personal integrity, which he expects of others.

  69. Puzzled

    I find it interesting that you call for transparency, but provide none yourself. I think it is a very reasonable question to wonder why you are obsessed with this issue. Two weeks ago, you might have had a point. Now it seems like an agenda. So who are you? And again, why do you want to know so badly?

  70. Puzzled

    I find it interesting that you call for transparency, but provide none yourself. I think it is a very reasonable question to wonder why you are obsessed with this issue. Two weeks ago, you might have had a point. Now it seems like an agenda. So who are you? And again, why do you want to know so badly?

  71. Puzzled

    I find it interesting that you call for transparency, but provide none yourself. I think it is a very reasonable question to wonder why you are obsessed with this issue. Two weeks ago, you might have had a point. Now it seems like an agenda. So who are you? And again, why do you want to know so badly?

  72. Puzzled

    I find it interesting that you call for transparency, but provide none yourself. I think it is a very reasonable question to wonder why you are obsessed with this issue. Two weeks ago, you might have had a point. Now it seems like an agenda. So who are you? And again, why do you want to know so badly?

  73. Novel Idea!

    Did anyone ever think that perhaps polls are not necessarily an accurate barometer of what will be the final vote? Remember when polls showed that John Dean would be the front runner, and he ended up a distant third??? Polls showed so-and-so was ahead, and then the tide turned after a mailer was sent out, etc. Do you really think most voters waivered that much in making their decisions??? I don’t think they are that fickle.

    I didn’t particularly like either candidate to start with. I knew the strength and weaknesses of each almost from the start. The mailers and campaign strategies were about what I would have expected. If you were on the fence, the mailers and campaign ads might have made a difference, otherwise I suspect voters knew who they were going to vote for. Polls are notoriously unreliable. They make for interesting speculation and cause much discussion, but don’t necessarily reflect what the voters actually think.

  74. Novel Idea!

    Did anyone ever think that perhaps polls are not necessarily an accurate barometer of what will be the final vote? Remember when polls showed that John Dean would be the front runner, and he ended up a distant third??? Polls showed so-and-so was ahead, and then the tide turned after a mailer was sent out, etc. Do you really think most voters waivered that much in making their decisions??? I don’t think they are that fickle.

    I didn’t particularly like either candidate to start with. I knew the strength and weaknesses of each almost from the start. The mailers and campaign strategies were about what I would have expected. If you were on the fence, the mailers and campaign ads might have made a difference, otherwise I suspect voters knew who they were going to vote for. Polls are notoriously unreliable. They make for interesting speculation and cause much discussion, but don’t necessarily reflect what the voters actually think.

  75. Novel Idea!

    Did anyone ever think that perhaps polls are not necessarily an accurate barometer of what will be the final vote? Remember when polls showed that John Dean would be the front runner, and he ended up a distant third??? Polls showed so-and-so was ahead, and then the tide turned after a mailer was sent out, etc. Do you really think most voters waivered that much in making their decisions??? I don’t think they are that fickle.

    I didn’t particularly like either candidate to start with. I knew the strength and weaknesses of each almost from the start. The mailers and campaign strategies were about what I would have expected. If you were on the fence, the mailers and campaign ads might have made a difference, otherwise I suspect voters knew who they were going to vote for. Polls are notoriously unreliable. They make for interesting speculation and cause much discussion, but don’t necessarily reflect what the voters actually think.

  76. Novel Idea!

    Did anyone ever think that perhaps polls are not necessarily an accurate barometer of what will be the final vote? Remember when polls showed that John Dean would be the front runner, and he ended up a distant third??? Polls showed so-and-so was ahead, and then the tide turned after a mailer was sent out, etc. Do you really think most voters waivered that much in making their decisions??? I don’t think they are that fickle.

    I didn’t particularly like either candidate to start with. I knew the strength and weaknesses of each almost from the start. The mailers and campaign strategies were about what I would have expected. If you were on the fence, the mailers and campaign ads might have made a difference, otherwise I suspect voters knew who they were going to vote for. Polls are notoriously unreliable. They make for interesting speculation and cause much discussion, but don’t necessarily reflect what the voters actually think.

  77. Continued to be puzzled

    Not to mention the utter juvenile aspect of the above individual continues to leave me wondering about their identity. I suppose we will never learn. But why should anyone have to respond to their demands?

  78. Continued to be puzzled

    Not to mention the utter juvenile aspect of the above individual continues to leave me wondering about their identity. I suppose we will never learn. But why should anyone have to respond to their demands?

  79. Continued to be puzzled

    Not to mention the utter juvenile aspect of the above individual continues to leave me wondering about their identity. I suppose we will never learn. But why should anyone have to respond to their demands?

  80. Continued to be puzzled

    Not to mention the utter juvenile aspect of the above individual continues to leave me wondering about their identity. I suppose we will never learn. But why should anyone have to respond to their demands?

  81. Don Shor

    I started the election with fairly neutral feelings about Cabaldon, and predisposed to vote for Mariko because I know her. I ended the primary season with a very negative feeling about Cabaldon, and would probably not vote for him in any future election — much as I felt very hostile to Gray Davis for many years after his negative campaign against Feinstein.

    If Cabaldon wants to run for higher office again in this area, he now has serious negatives to overcome. I don’t think those are the result of the IE ads on Mariko’s behalf, really; he did most of the damage to himself, with a lot of help from his IE allies. I was pleased and surprised that Mariko won, given what she was up against.

  82. Don Shor

    I started the election with fairly neutral feelings about Cabaldon, and predisposed to vote for Mariko because I know her. I ended the primary season with a very negative feeling about Cabaldon, and would probably not vote for him in any future election — much as I felt very hostile to Gray Davis for many years after his negative campaign against Feinstein.

    If Cabaldon wants to run for higher office again in this area, he now has serious negatives to overcome. I don’t think those are the result of the IE ads on Mariko’s behalf, really; he did most of the damage to himself, with a lot of help from his IE allies. I was pleased and surprised that Mariko won, given what she was up against.

  83. Don Shor

    I started the election with fairly neutral feelings about Cabaldon, and predisposed to vote for Mariko because I know her. I ended the primary season with a very negative feeling about Cabaldon, and would probably not vote for him in any future election — much as I felt very hostile to Gray Davis for many years after his negative campaign against Feinstein.

    If Cabaldon wants to run for higher office again in this area, he now has serious negatives to overcome. I don’t think those are the result of the IE ads on Mariko’s behalf, really; he did most of the damage to himself, with a lot of help from his IE allies. I was pleased and surprised that Mariko won, given what she was up against.

  84. Don Shor

    I started the election with fairly neutral feelings about Cabaldon, and predisposed to vote for Mariko because I know her. I ended the primary season with a very negative feeling about Cabaldon, and would probably not vote for him in any future election — much as I felt very hostile to Gray Davis for many years after his negative campaign against Feinstein.

    If Cabaldon wants to run for higher office again in this area, he now has serious negatives to overcome. I don’t think those are the result of the IE ads on Mariko’s behalf, really; he did most of the damage to himself, with a lot of help from his IE allies. I was pleased and surprised that Mariko won, given what she was up against.

  85. gov. howard dean, m.d.

    “Remember when polls showed that John Dean would be the front runner, and he ended up a distant third???”

    John Dean?!!! Remember me?

  86. gov. howard dean, m.d.

    “Remember when polls showed that John Dean would be the front runner, and he ended up a distant third???”

    John Dean?!!! Remember me?

  87. gov. howard dean, m.d.

    “Remember when polls showed that John Dean would be the front runner, and he ended up a distant third???”

    John Dean?!!! Remember me?

  88. gov. howard dean, m.d.

    “Remember when polls showed that John Dean would be the front runner, and he ended up a distant third???”

    John Dean?!!! Remember me?

  89. 無名 - wu ming

    i find it humorous what passes for media “analysis” these days. they pretty much just assumed the rubes would follow what the deal cutters in sac proclaimed, and then got shocked when it didn’t pan out.

    and yet both before and after the election, none of them are doing the heavy lifting necessary to actually have an informed opinion either way; in effect, they’re on par with bloggers like myself, who just sort of write out their hunches and responses. the difference is, i’m not getting paid to do this, and i suspect that even i talked to more voters than these guys.

    anyone who wants to answer the question “why did cabaldon lose/yamada win?” would have to actually pore over the election results, preferably by city and precinct, with an eye to those patterns in those parts of town. then they ought to have polled extensively, instead of just relying on what one candidate says his internal polling was saying (which was probably no good anyways, given how late a lot of the people i talked to decided their vote). next, the reporter should do a comparative analysis of the ground games of the two campaigns, not just the numbers but how they went about it (ie. volunteer door knockers from a community vs. paid ones from outside the community). finally, a competent reporter probably ought to spend some time in both solano and yolo county actually asking voters why they voted for the one or the other.

    but that would take money, effort, and assumes that the answers are out there in the provinces amongst the unwashed, instead of safely in sac among the shocked – shocked! – insiders who got beat.

    and they wonder why bloggers are eating their lunch. investigative reporting’s the single best way to outperform regular people posting their perceptions and opinions for free. the idiots proceed to cut their reporting budgets, and cut and paste from the news feeds.

    tips for the aspiring journalist: figure out why woodland broke for yamada, why 2 precincts in west sac went against their mayor, and show us where yamada and cabaldon won and lost in solano county. davis is the easiest to figure out, but if you want to explain the election, that’d be the places to start digging.

  90. 無名 - wu ming

    i find it humorous what passes for media “analysis” these days. they pretty much just assumed the rubes would follow what the deal cutters in sac proclaimed, and then got shocked when it didn’t pan out.

    and yet both before and after the election, none of them are doing the heavy lifting necessary to actually have an informed opinion either way; in effect, they’re on par with bloggers like myself, who just sort of write out their hunches and responses. the difference is, i’m not getting paid to do this, and i suspect that even i talked to more voters than these guys.

    anyone who wants to answer the question “why did cabaldon lose/yamada win?” would have to actually pore over the election results, preferably by city and precinct, with an eye to those patterns in those parts of town. then they ought to have polled extensively, instead of just relying on what one candidate says his internal polling was saying (which was probably no good anyways, given how late a lot of the people i talked to decided their vote). next, the reporter should do a comparative analysis of the ground games of the two campaigns, not just the numbers but how they went about it (ie. volunteer door knockers from a community vs. paid ones from outside the community). finally, a competent reporter probably ought to spend some time in both solano and yolo county actually asking voters why they voted for the one or the other.

    but that would take money, effort, and assumes that the answers are out there in the provinces amongst the unwashed, instead of safely in sac among the shocked – shocked! – insiders who got beat.

    and they wonder why bloggers are eating their lunch. investigative reporting’s the single best way to outperform regular people posting their perceptions and opinions for free. the idiots proceed to cut their reporting budgets, and cut and paste from the news feeds.

    tips for the aspiring journalist: figure out why woodland broke for yamada, why 2 precincts in west sac went against their mayor, and show us where yamada and cabaldon won and lost in solano county. davis is the easiest to figure out, but if you want to explain the election, that’d be the places to start digging.

  91. 無名 - wu ming

    i find it humorous what passes for media “analysis” these days. they pretty much just assumed the rubes would follow what the deal cutters in sac proclaimed, and then got shocked when it didn’t pan out.

    and yet both before and after the election, none of them are doing the heavy lifting necessary to actually have an informed opinion either way; in effect, they’re on par with bloggers like myself, who just sort of write out their hunches and responses. the difference is, i’m not getting paid to do this, and i suspect that even i talked to more voters than these guys.

    anyone who wants to answer the question “why did cabaldon lose/yamada win?” would have to actually pore over the election results, preferably by city and precinct, with an eye to those patterns in those parts of town. then they ought to have polled extensively, instead of just relying on what one candidate says his internal polling was saying (which was probably no good anyways, given how late a lot of the people i talked to decided their vote). next, the reporter should do a comparative analysis of the ground games of the two campaigns, not just the numbers but how they went about it (ie. volunteer door knockers from a community vs. paid ones from outside the community). finally, a competent reporter probably ought to spend some time in both solano and yolo county actually asking voters why they voted for the one or the other.

    but that would take money, effort, and assumes that the answers are out there in the provinces amongst the unwashed, instead of safely in sac among the shocked – shocked! – insiders who got beat.

    and they wonder why bloggers are eating their lunch. investigative reporting’s the single best way to outperform regular people posting their perceptions and opinions for free. the idiots proceed to cut their reporting budgets, and cut and paste from the news feeds.

    tips for the aspiring journalist: figure out why woodland broke for yamada, why 2 precincts in west sac went against their mayor, and show us where yamada and cabaldon won and lost in solano county. davis is the easiest to figure out, but if you want to explain the election, that’d be the places to start digging.

  92. 無名 - wu ming

    i find it humorous what passes for media “analysis” these days. they pretty much just assumed the rubes would follow what the deal cutters in sac proclaimed, and then got shocked when it didn’t pan out.

    and yet both before and after the election, none of them are doing the heavy lifting necessary to actually have an informed opinion either way; in effect, they’re on par with bloggers like myself, who just sort of write out their hunches and responses. the difference is, i’m not getting paid to do this, and i suspect that even i talked to more voters than these guys.

    anyone who wants to answer the question “why did cabaldon lose/yamada win?” would have to actually pore over the election results, preferably by city and precinct, with an eye to those patterns in those parts of town. then they ought to have polled extensively, instead of just relying on what one candidate says his internal polling was saying (which was probably no good anyways, given how late a lot of the people i talked to decided their vote). next, the reporter should do a comparative analysis of the ground games of the two campaigns, not just the numbers but how they went about it (ie. volunteer door knockers from a community vs. paid ones from outside the community). finally, a competent reporter probably ought to spend some time in both solano and yolo county actually asking voters why they voted for the one or the other.

    but that would take money, effort, and assumes that the answers are out there in the provinces amongst the unwashed, instead of safely in sac among the shocked – shocked! – insiders who got beat.

    and they wonder why bloggers are eating their lunch. investigative reporting’s the single best way to outperform regular people posting their perceptions and opinions for free. the idiots proceed to cut their reporting budgets, and cut and paste from the news feeds.

    tips for the aspiring journalist: figure out why woodland broke for yamada, why 2 precincts in west sac went against their mayor, and show us where yamada and cabaldon won and lost in solano county. davis is the easiest to figure out, but if you want to explain the election, that’d be the places to start digging.

  93. 無名 - wu ming

    as for the car boot ad, having read through the sacbee comments on the initial story (not, i’ll admit, a scientific method of gathering data),the outrage was less that the guy didn’t pay his tickets as that as mayor of west sac, telling people they should ride their bikes and walk more, selling west sac’s successful development story, the mayor was hanging out in a sacramento cafe across the rover with his sports car enough to rack up a lot of tickets.

    the boat thing in that same IE mailer played on that “for thee but not for me” perception. and it was a pretty sweet sports car, and they don’t come cheap.

  94. 無名 - wu ming

    as for the car boot ad, having read through the sacbee comments on the initial story (not, i’ll admit, a scientific method of gathering data),the outrage was less that the guy didn’t pay his tickets as that as mayor of west sac, telling people they should ride their bikes and walk more, selling west sac’s successful development story, the mayor was hanging out in a sacramento cafe across the rover with his sports car enough to rack up a lot of tickets.

    the boat thing in that same IE mailer played on that “for thee but not for me” perception. and it was a pretty sweet sports car, and they don’t come cheap.

  95. 無名 - wu ming

    as for the car boot ad, having read through the sacbee comments on the initial story (not, i’ll admit, a scientific method of gathering data),the outrage was less that the guy didn’t pay his tickets as that as mayor of west sac, telling people they should ride their bikes and walk more, selling west sac’s successful development story, the mayor was hanging out in a sacramento cafe across the rover with his sports car enough to rack up a lot of tickets.

    the boat thing in that same IE mailer played on that “for thee but not for me” perception. and it was a pretty sweet sports car, and they don’t come cheap.

  96. 無名 - wu ming

    as for the car boot ad, having read through the sacbee comments on the initial story (not, i’ll admit, a scientific method of gathering data),the outrage was less that the guy didn’t pay his tickets as that as mayor of west sac, telling people they should ride their bikes and walk more, selling west sac’s successful development story, the mayor was hanging out in a sacramento cafe across the rover with his sports car enough to rack up a lot of tickets.

    the boat thing in that same IE mailer played on that “for thee but not for me” perception. and it was a pretty sweet sports car, and they don’t come cheap.

  97. Anonymous

    NEW READER TO THIS BLOG ASKS:

    What is with this question of C.A.R.O.L.E.? One anon “DEMANDS” to know who the posting person is and another confesses to being the item in question. What is the answer here? I’m not sure this blog is real,serious or worth reading. ANYBODY got an answer?
    I would appreciate an answer WITHOUT the baseless speculation this blog seems to attract. Thank You

  98. Anonymous

    NEW READER TO THIS BLOG ASKS:

    What is with this question of C.A.R.O.L.E.? One anon “DEMANDS” to know who the posting person is and another confesses to being the item in question. What is the answer here? I’m not sure this blog is real,serious or worth reading. ANYBODY got an answer?
    I would appreciate an answer WITHOUT the baseless speculation this blog seems to attract. Thank You

  99. Anonymous

    NEW READER TO THIS BLOG ASKS:

    What is with this question of C.A.R.O.L.E.? One anon “DEMANDS” to know who the posting person is and another confesses to being the item in question. What is the answer here? I’m not sure this blog is real,serious or worth reading. ANYBODY got an answer?
    I would appreciate an answer WITHOUT the baseless speculation this blog seems to attract. Thank You

  100. Anonymous

    NEW READER TO THIS BLOG ASKS:

    What is with this question of C.A.R.O.L.E.? One anon “DEMANDS” to know who the posting person is and another confesses to being the item in question. What is the answer here? I’m not sure this blog is real,serious or worth reading. ANYBODY got an answer?
    I would appreciate an answer WITHOUT the baseless speculation this blog seems to attract. Thank You

  101. One view

    If you are interested in this blog, do not start with those questions. Start with the months of stories provided on a daily basis by the blog on a variety of topics. Some childish adult is trying to ruin a good thing with their ceaseless questions.

  102. One view

    If you are interested in this blog, do not start with those questions. Start with the months of stories provided on a daily basis by the blog on a variety of topics. Some childish adult is trying to ruin a good thing with their ceaseless questions.

  103. One view

    If you are interested in this blog, do not start with those questions. Start with the months of stories provided on a daily basis by the blog on a variety of topics. Some childish adult is trying to ruin a good thing with their ceaseless questions.

  104. One view

    If you are interested in this blog, do not start with those questions. Start with the months of stories provided on a daily basis by the blog on a variety of topics. Some childish adult is trying to ruin a good thing with their ceaseless questions.

  105. Jeff

    1:11 Anonymous,

    You are right. This blog is not worth reading for YOU. You would be better off going to some childish blog. The fact that you continue to write your childish post implies you don’t have a life or nothing of value to add to the discussion. Get some professional help with your obsession.

    You have our permission to leave.

  106. Jeff

    1:11 Anonymous,

    You are right. This blog is not worth reading for YOU. You would be better off going to some childish blog. The fact that you continue to write your childish post implies you don’t have a life or nothing of value to add to the discussion. Get some professional help with your obsession.

    You have our permission to leave.

  107. Jeff

    1:11 Anonymous,

    You are right. This blog is not worth reading for YOU. You would be better off going to some childish blog. The fact that you continue to write your childish post implies you don’t have a life or nothing of value to add to the discussion. Get some professional help with your obsession.

    You have our permission to leave.

  108. Jeff

    1:11 Anonymous,

    You are right. This blog is not worth reading for YOU. You would be better off going to some childish blog. The fact that you continue to write your childish post implies you don’t have a life or nothing of value to add to the discussion. Get some professional help with your obsession.

    You have our permission to leave.

  109. Anonymous

    Do not forget:

    The Davis City Council majority approved the Target.

    The voters ratified that approval, after being subjected to a $300,000 corporate campaign and an intensive and expensive get out the vote campaign to selectively target Target supporters — an expensive which couldn’t begin to be matched by a citizen campaign.

  110. Anonymous

    Do not forget:

    The Davis City Council majority approved the Target.

    The voters ratified that approval, after being subjected to a $300,000 corporate campaign and an intensive and expensive get out the vote campaign to selectively target Target supporters — an expensive which couldn’t begin to be matched by a citizen campaign.

  111. Anonymous

    Do not forget:

    The Davis City Council majority approved the Target.

    The voters ratified that approval, after being subjected to a $300,000 corporate campaign and an intensive and expensive get out the vote campaign to selectively target Target supporters — an expensive which couldn’t begin to be matched by a citizen campaign.

  112. Anonymous

    Do not forget:

    The Davis City Council majority approved the Target.

    The voters ratified that approval, after being subjected to a $300,000 corporate campaign and an intensive and expensive get out the vote campaign to selectively target Target supporters — an expensive which couldn’t begin to be matched by a citizen campaign.

  113. What Do You Think?

    “Do not forget: The Davis City Council majority approved the Target. The voters ratified that approval, after being subjected to a $300,000 corporate campaign and an intensive and expensive get out the vote campaign to selectively target Target supporters — an expensive which couldn’t begin to be matched by a citizen campaign.”

    Or just maybe the majority of citizens want Davis tax revenue to stay in Davis to help pay for city services; want to be able to purchase things at cheaper prices?

  114. What Do You Think?

    “Do not forget: The Davis City Council majority approved the Target. The voters ratified that approval, after being subjected to a $300,000 corporate campaign and an intensive and expensive get out the vote campaign to selectively target Target supporters — an expensive which couldn’t begin to be matched by a citizen campaign.”

    Or just maybe the majority of citizens want Davis tax revenue to stay in Davis to help pay for city services; want to be able to purchase things at cheaper prices?

  115. What Do You Think?

    “Do not forget: The Davis City Council majority approved the Target. The voters ratified that approval, after being subjected to a $300,000 corporate campaign and an intensive and expensive get out the vote campaign to selectively target Target supporters — an expensive which couldn’t begin to be matched by a citizen campaign.”

    Or just maybe the majority of citizens want Davis tax revenue to stay in Davis to help pay for city services; want to be able to purchase things at cheaper prices?

  116. What Do You Think?

    “Do not forget: The Davis City Council majority approved the Target. The voters ratified that approval, after being subjected to a $300,000 corporate campaign and an intensive and expensive get out the vote campaign to selectively target Target supporters — an expensive which couldn’t begin to be matched by a citizen campaign.”

    Or just maybe the majority of citizens want Davis tax revenue to stay in Davis to help pay for city services; want to be able to purchase things at cheaper prices?

  117. wdf

    “Or just maybe the majority of citizens want Davis tax revenue to stay in Davis to help pay for city services; want to be able to purchase things at cheaper prices?”

    I agree. I just get a little tired of the inconvenience of driving out to Woodland just to go to Walmart or Target. Why not save gas (environmentally and fiscally sound) and go to Target in Davis. Plus I have a greater chance of running into a city council member there and giving him/her citizen input on the spot.

  118. wdf

    “Or just maybe the majority of citizens want Davis tax revenue to stay in Davis to help pay for city services; want to be able to purchase things at cheaper prices?”

    I agree. I just get a little tired of the inconvenience of driving out to Woodland just to go to Walmart or Target. Why not save gas (environmentally and fiscally sound) and go to Target in Davis. Plus I have a greater chance of running into a city council member there and giving him/her citizen input on the spot.

  119. wdf

    “Or just maybe the majority of citizens want Davis tax revenue to stay in Davis to help pay for city services; want to be able to purchase things at cheaper prices?”

    I agree. I just get a little tired of the inconvenience of driving out to Woodland just to go to Walmart or Target. Why not save gas (environmentally and fiscally sound) and go to Target in Davis. Plus I have a greater chance of running into a city council member there and giving him/her citizen input on the spot.

  120. wdf

    “Or just maybe the majority of citizens want Davis tax revenue to stay in Davis to help pay for city services; want to be able to purchase things at cheaper prices?”

    I agree. I just get a little tired of the inconvenience of driving out to Woodland just to go to Walmart or Target. Why not save gas (environmentally and fiscally sound) and go to Target in Davis. Plus I have a greater chance of running into a city council member there and giving him/her citizen input on the spot.

  121. Anonymous

    Well overall this is a bit pedestrian when it comes to breaking down the Assembly race. Here are some things you did not consider:

    1. WHO were the voters? It’s a Democratic primary, so duh, they were mostly women. Big suprise that Democratic women have a tendency to vote for Democratic women, especially in California statehouse elections. The Yamada campaign had an eye on that gender gap all along (kudos to Brian and his consultant).

    2. The Latte ad was laughable in that it actually pictured a capuccino. Okay, it didn’t cost Cabaldon any votes, but I laughed out loud.

    3. Oh yeah, double digit mailers from IE committees for Cabaldon, which were all shells of EdVoice anyway. That screams ‘bought and paid for’ with neon lights.

    4. The car boot – one of the best images of a campaign that I have seen since I moved to Davis. Classic, worth a thousand words. Expensive, black sports car with a bright orange boot on it. You are not like me and you cannot represent me (and again kudos to the Yamada campaign for using this information correctly, it was a gift and there was NO REASON not to put it out there). I don’t envy you your boat or your sports car, but I have to pay my bills (on much less money) and so should you.

    5. A well maintained website and rapid response from the Yamada campaign. No, those emails did not go to the majority of the AD 8 voters, but they kept the faithful in line, including me. I was not happy when I got the double dipping mailer, but I was thrilled to get the Yamada email response to it. Kudos to Mariko (and Brian, again) for writing those, in her own voice. Very effective use of ‘new media’.

    Congrats to Mariko, good luck in November and beyond.

  122. Anonymous

    Well overall this is a bit pedestrian when it comes to breaking down the Assembly race. Here are some things you did not consider:

    1. WHO were the voters? It’s a Democratic primary, so duh, they were mostly women. Big suprise that Democratic women have a tendency to vote for Democratic women, especially in California statehouse elections. The Yamada campaign had an eye on that gender gap all along (kudos to Brian and his consultant).

    2. The Latte ad was laughable in that it actually pictured a capuccino. Okay, it didn’t cost Cabaldon any votes, but I laughed out loud.

    3. Oh yeah, double digit mailers from IE committees for Cabaldon, which were all shells of EdVoice anyway. That screams ‘bought and paid for’ with neon lights.

    4. The car boot – one of the best images of a campaign that I have seen since I moved to Davis. Classic, worth a thousand words. Expensive, black sports car with a bright orange boot on it. You are not like me and you cannot represent me (and again kudos to the Yamada campaign for using this information correctly, it was a gift and there was NO REASON not to put it out there). I don’t envy you your boat or your sports car, but I have to pay my bills (on much less money) and so should you.

    5. A well maintained website and rapid response from the Yamada campaign. No, those emails did not go to the majority of the AD 8 voters, but they kept the faithful in line, including me. I was not happy when I got the double dipping mailer, but I was thrilled to get the Yamada email response to it. Kudos to Mariko (and Brian, again) for writing those, in her own voice. Very effective use of ‘new media’.

    Congrats to Mariko, good luck in November and beyond.

  123. Anonymous

    Well overall this is a bit pedestrian when it comes to breaking down the Assembly race. Here are some things you did not consider:

    1. WHO were the voters? It’s a Democratic primary, so duh, they were mostly women. Big suprise that Democratic women have a tendency to vote for Democratic women, especially in California statehouse elections. The Yamada campaign had an eye on that gender gap all along (kudos to Brian and his consultant).

    2. The Latte ad was laughable in that it actually pictured a capuccino. Okay, it didn’t cost Cabaldon any votes, but I laughed out loud.

    3. Oh yeah, double digit mailers from IE committees for Cabaldon, which were all shells of EdVoice anyway. That screams ‘bought and paid for’ with neon lights.

    4. The car boot – one of the best images of a campaign that I have seen since I moved to Davis. Classic, worth a thousand words. Expensive, black sports car with a bright orange boot on it. You are not like me and you cannot represent me (and again kudos to the Yamada campaign for using this information correctly, it was a gift and there was NO REASON not to put it out there). I don’t envy you your boat or your sports car, but I have to pay my bills (on much less money) and so should you.

    5. A well maintained website and rapid response from the Yamada campaign. No, those emails did not go to the majority of the AD 8 voters, but they kept the faithful in line, including me. I was not happy when I got the double dipping mailer, but I was thrilled to get the Yamada email response to it. Kudos to Mariko (and Brian, again) for writing those, in her own voice. Very effective use of ‘new media’.

    Congrats to Mariko, good luck in November and beyond.

  124. Anonymous

    Well overall this is a bit pedestrian when it comes to breaking down the Assembly race. Here are some things you did not consider:

    1. WHO were the voters? It’s a Democratic primary, so duh, they were mostly women. Big suprise that Democratic women have a tendency to vote for Democratic women, especially in California statehouse elections. The Yamada campaign had an eye on that gender gap all along (kudos to Brian and his consultant).

    2. The Latte ad was laughable in that it actually pictured a capuccino. Okay, it didn’t cost Cabaldon any votes, but I laughed out loud.

    3. Oh yeah, double digit mailers from IE committees for Cabaldon, which were all shells of EdVoice anyway. That screams ‘bought and paid for’ with neon lights.

    4. The car boot – one of the best images of a campaign that I have seen since I moved to Davis. Classic, worth a thousand words. Expensive, black sports car with a bright orange boot on it. You are not like me and you cannot represent me (and again kudos to the Yamada campaign for using this information correctly, it was a gift and there was NO REASON not to put it out there). I don’t envy you your boat or your sports car, but I have to pay my bills (on much less money) and so should you.

    5. A well maintained website and rapid response from the Yamada campaign. No, those emails did not go to the majority of the AD 8 voters, but they kept the faithful in line, including me. I was not happy when I got the double dipping mailer, but I was thrilled to get the Yamada email response to it. Kudos to Mariko (and Brian, again) for writing those, in her own voice. Very effective use of ‘new media’.

    Congrats to Mariko, good luck in November and beyond.

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