Bizarre Robo-call Attacks Congressman Thompson

Love it! Its a pretty noisy election and I guess the guy decided that a whisper could be heard better than a shout. The first robo-call I want to hear again!

Love it! Its a pretty noisy election and I guess the guy decided that a whisper could be heard better than a shout. The first robo-call I want to hear again!

Now that he has taken full responsibility for the illegal robo-calls I trust the PUC will be fining him 100,000 times.

Now that he has taken full responsibility for the illegal robo-calls I trust the PUC will be fining him 100,000 times.

why would the PUC fine him? for allowing a recording of a lusty sounding robo call? why are the robo calls “illegal?” they may be silly, and not a good reflection of the candidate, but i don’t believe they are “illegal.”

why would the PUC fine him? for allowing a recording of a lusty sounding robo call? why are the robo calls “illegal?” they may be silly, and not a good reflection of the candidate, but i don’t believe they are “illegal.”

If you want to learn more about Zane Starkewolf and his U.S. Congressional Candidacy, please log on to the following website:

http://zane2008.com

Zane’s campaign has even posted information about this robo-call on it as well.

Also, check out the Yolo County Republican Party (YCRP) website at:

http://www.yologop.org

If you want to learn more about Zane Starkewolf and his U.S. Congressional Candidacy, please log on to the following website:

http://zane2008.com

Zane’s campaign has even posted information about this robo-call on it as well.

Also, check out the Yolo County Republican Party (YCRP) website at:

http://www.yologop.org

Robocalls are illegal in CA.

See the link below from the CPUC.

http://www.cpuc.ca.gov/NR/rdonlyres/51D7DD5B-9902-4C3B-9EB3-B75F56CBB4C2/0/080129_RobocallADAD_FAQ.pdf

Robocalls are illegal in CA.

See the link below from the CPUC.

http://www.cpuc.ca.gov/NR/rdonlyres/51D7DD5B-9902-4C3B-9EB3-B75F56CBB4C2/0/080129_RobocallADAD_FAQ.pdf

anonymous 11:19, that link does not say robo-calls from politicians are illegal.

You need to go to this link, http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cacodes/puc/2871-2876.html

I read the CPUC sections and don’t really know the answer, but I think anonymous 11:19 is right that they are illegal. Have any pols been prosecuted for violating this law? I have received dozens of robo-calls over the past few years of this type, though none as stimulating as the one from that lady.

anonymous 11:19, that link does not say robo-calls from politicians are illegal.

You need to go to this link, http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cacodes/puc/2871-2876.html

I read the CPUC sections and don’t really know the answer, but I think anonymous 11:19 is right that they are illegal. Have any pols been prosecuted for violating this law? I have received dozens of robo-calls over the past few years of this type, though none as stimulating as the one from that lady.

What on earth is a green Republican? I checked out Zane’s website. The ‘endorsements’ page speaks volumes. Mike may as well be running unopposed.

What on earth is a green Republican? I checked out Zane’s website. The ‘endorsements’ page speaks volumes. Mike may as well be running unopposed.

I met Zane at the farmers market. Young guy with no chance of getting elected against Thompson. So he is having a little fun. Why not its better than the yes on 8 or real white republican haters like Palin and McCain.

I met Zane at the farmers market. Young guy with no chance of getting elected against Thompson. So he is having a little fun. Why not its better than the yes on 8 or real white republican haters like Palin and McCain.

“Mike may as well be running unopposed.”

Our CD is designed to always elect a Democrat no matter what. Look how it carves out zip codes which have higher Republican registration numbers. It’s bad for democracy that our elections are not competitive by design. So yeah, Mike may as well be running unopposed or in favor of child molestation. Nothing matters. Mike will win.

“Mike may as well be running unopposed.”

Our CD is designed to always elect a Democrat no matter what. Look how it carves out zip codes which have higher Republican registration numbers. It’s bad for democracy that our elections are not competitive by design. So yeah, Mike may as well be running unopposed or in favor of child molestation. Nothing matters. Mike will win.

Is it bad for Democracy?

That’s subject to debate. I’ve seen interesting research to suggest that it’s not that bad.

For instance, in terms of representation, if you have a district that is say 70% Democrat and it elects a Democrat, only 30% of the people have their views not represented. If you have a district that is 50-50, nearly half the population falls into that category. So for representational purposes, it would seem that the reverse is true.

Is it bad for Democracy?

That’s subject to debate. I’ve seen interesting research to suggest that it’s not that bad.

For instance, in terms of representation, if you have a district that is say 70% Democrat and it elects a Democrat, only 30% of the people have their views not represented. If you have a district that is 50-50, nearly half the population falls into that category. So for representational purposes, it would seem that the reverse is true.

CBS channel 13 covered it this morning, here.

But I learned about it first on the Peoples Vanguard.

CBS channel 13 covered it this morning, here.

But I learned about it first on the Peoples Vanguard.

That’s subject to debate. I’ve seen interesting research to suggest that it’s not that bad.

For instance, in terms of representation, if you have a district that is say 70% Democrat and it elects a Democrat, only 30% of the people have their views not represented. If you have a district that is 50-50, nearly half the population falls into that category. So for representational purposes, it would seem that the reverse is true.

The NPR California Report had an interesting piece on Prop. 11 this morning (Tuesday, Oct. 28). Part two of the report will come out tomorrow morning. Here is the link.

That’s subject to debate. I’ve seen interesting research to suggest that it’s not that bad.

For instance, in terms of representation, if you have a district that is say 70% Democrat and it elects a Democrat, only 30% of the people have their views not represented. If you have a district that is 50-50, nearly half the population falls into that category. So for representational purposes, it would seem that the reverse is true.

The NPR California Report had an interesting piece on Prop. 11 this morning (Tuesday, Oct. 28). Part two of the report will come out tomorrow morning. Here is the link.

“if you have a district that is say 70% Democrat and it elects a Democrat, only 30% of the people have their views not represented.”

If you ditch district elections and have proportional representation, 100% of the people have their views represented. You could also have district elections, but instead have 10 regional districts with 12 seats per district, apportioning the seats based on proportional representation of the parties.

The problem with terribly uncompetitive districts is that they discourage minority voters to participate in elections. Those minorities can never win when you stack the deck against them.

“if you have a district that is say 70% Democrat and it elects a Democrat, only 30% of the people have their views not represented.”

If you ditch district elections and have proportional representation, 100% of the people have their views represented. You could also have district elections, but instead have 10 regional districts with 12 seats per district, apportioning the seats based on proportional representation of the parties.

The problem with terribly uncompetitive districts is that they discourage minority voters to participate in elections. Those minorities can never win when you stack the deck against them.

But you still end up representing a far greater number of voters than you would in a more competitive district. Proportional representation has advantages over single member districts, it also has some disadvantages.

But you still end up representing a far greater number of voters than you would in a more competitive district. Proportional representation has advantages over single member districts, it also has some disadvantages.

I should add that I’m not necessarily in favor of that scenario, simply suggesting that the statement that uncompetitive districts are automatically bad for democracy, is considerably more nuanced and problematic than people might think at first glance.

I should add that I’m not necessarily in favor of that scenario, simply suggesting that the statement that uncompetitive districts are automatically bad for democracy, is considerably more nuanced and problematic than people might think at first glance.

I was going to vote for Thompson, and I had never heard anything about another candidate. Now I know we have one of UCD’s own running. And if he gets elected, maybe he can promise that the breathy female will answer his phones when constituents call? (That would be me, now!)

Is the sexy voice Zane’s Palin?? Hey Zane, does she wear red dresses with black spike heal boots? We all want to know!

ps Seriously, his unpaid volunteer just got him huge amounts of free air time, even blog time. Not bad for an “innocent” mistake? Maybe Zane is a very, very smart UCD student? Aren’t they all?

I was going to vote for Thompson, and I had never heard anything about another candidate. Now I know we have one of UCD’s own running. And if he gets elected, maybe he can promise that the breathy female will answer his phones when constituents call? (That would be me, now!)

Is the sexy voice Zane’s Palin?? Hey Zane, does she wear red dresses with black spike heal boots? We all want to know!

ps Seriously, his unpaid volunteer just got him huge amounts of free air time, even blog time. Not bad for an “innocent” mistake? Maybe Zane is a very, very smart UCD student? Aren’t they all?

To Anon on 10/28 at 2:15 p.m.
Palin and McCain white republican haters? Wow, you need a lesson in civility. Anyone who speaks as you do is a very big hater of those who don’t agree with you.
Sig Heil………

To Anon on 10/28 at 2:15 p.m.
Palin and McCain white republican haters? Wow, you need a lesson in civility. Anyone who speaks as you do is a very big hater of those who don’t agree with you.
Sig Heil………

When 70% of the population is putting up its candidate, it’s easier for them to get a more extreme candidate elected (like really far left or really far right). In many districts where the voting goes to these extremes, it’s a lot more than 30% who are not represented. People in the middle don’t feel represented either.

When 70% of the population is putting up its candidate, it’s easier for them to get a more extreme candidate elected (like really far left or really far right). In many districts where the voting goes to these extremes, it’s a lot more than 30% who are not represented. People in the middle don’t feel represented either.

Not necessarily. It depends on the district. For instance, Mike Thompson is certainly not an extreme candidate. If you go to somewhere like Berkeley, you end up with more extreme candidates, but there is likely no way to avoid that.

Not necessarily. It depends on the district. For instance, Mike Thompson is certainly not an extreme candidate. If you go to somewhere like Berkeley, you end up with more extreme candidates, but there is likely no way to avoid that.

“Mike Thompson is certainly not an extreme candidate.”

Because of our state’s large Congressional Districts — each has around 720,000 people — it takes a lot of money to become well known in your district. My guess is that the money factor has somewhat of a moderating effect (and, of course, a corrupting effect). Even though only Democratic primary voters decide who our Rep will be, a member of Congress needs to appeal to a large number of people with money. Most of those monied people will not be from our district; they might not even be Democrats. If the candidate is extremely left in his views, I think it will be harder for him or her to win over the support of the money-givers.

The exception to this, though, is when the member of Congress (or the presumptive replacement) is famous as some kind of an activist, who made his or her name without raising much money. Those members of Congress (or the state legislature) can afford to be more extreme in their views. But, I suppose, those “extremists” are in line with the politics of their districts, at least with their party.

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These are some of Mike Thompson’s biggest campaign donors:

AKT Development $27,600
Capitol Resources $10,750
Wine Institute $10,500
Air Line Pilots Assn $10,000
Altria Group $10,000
American Assn of Orthopaedic Surgeons $10,000
American Health Care Assn $10,000
American Psychiatric Assn $10,000
Blue Dog PAC $10,000
College of American Pathologists $10,000
Home Depot $10,000
International Council of Shopping Cntrs $10,000
Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $10,000
KPMG LLP $10,000
Lockheed Martin $10,000
National Assn of Realtors $10,000
National Beer Wholesalers Assn $10,000
Operating Engineers Union $10,000
Service Employees International Union $10,000
Target Corp $10,000
UBS AG $10,000
US Oncology $10,000

“Mike Thompson is certainly not an extreme candidate.”

Because of our state’s large Congressional Districts — each has around 720,000 people — it takes a lot of money to become well known in your district. My guess is that the money factor has somewhat of a moderating effect (and, of course, a corrupting effect). Even though only Democratic primary voters decide who our Rep will be, a member of Congress needs to appeal to a large number of people with money. Most of those monied people will not be from our district; they might not even be Democrats. If the candidate is extremely left in his views, I think it will be harder for him or her to win over the support of the money-givers.

The exception to this, though, is when the member of Congress (or the presumptive replacement) is famous as some kind of an activist, who made his or her name without raising much money. Those members of Congress (or the state legislature) can afford to be more extreme in their views. But, I suppose, those “extremists” are in line with the politics of their districts, at least with their party.

———–

These are some of Mike Thompson’s biggest campaign donors:

AKT Development $27,600
Capitol Resources $10,750
Wine Institute $10,500
Air Line Pilots Assn $10,000
Altria Group $10,000
American Assn of Orthopaedic Surgeons $10,000
American Health Care Assn $10,000
American Psychiatric Assn $10,000
Blue Dog PAC $10,000
College of American Pathologists $10,000
Home Depot $10,000
International Council of Shopping Cntrs $10,000
Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $10,000
KPMG LLP $10,000
Lockheed Martin $10,000
National Assn of Realtors $10,000
National Beer Wholesalers Assn $10,000
Operating Engineers Union $10,000
Service Employees International Union $10,000
Target Corp $10,000
UBS AG $10,000
US Oncology $10,000