DHS Suspension: Why isn’t this issue resolved?

A few weeks ago, we reported that the high school under pressure from the school board and upper administration, had rescinded the suspension of a Davis High School student that stemmed from the student’s Human Relations Week speech on an incident where the student’s Malcolm X poster was removed from the classroom by a teacher who stated it was promoting terrorism. At that point we had reported that because of the fast action by the school board and others, that the school district had likely avoided legal action. However, since then the situation has begun to deteriorate.

The first problem was that the teacher refused to return to her class with the student in attendance. This produced a huge problem for the school and the students because the AP Calculus Test was approaching and they had no substitute teachers with enough knowledge of calculus to take over the class. This was temporarily resolved by having the other calculus teacher take over the class. However, the school now appears to want the student to move to the other class, which is at a different time and would severely disrupt the rest of his schedule for the last five or six weeks of school. This for a suspension that has now been rescinded.

To make matters worse, an article appeared on Friday in the HUB, the student newspaper that quoted from a memo from the DHS site representatives for the Davis Teachers’ Association. We have obtained a copy of this memo, which is a public record.

The memo dated April 23, 2007 makes three key points.

First:

“The staff of Davis Senior High school would like to voice its concern over the possibility of the rescission of a suspension for a DSHS student. “

Second:

“The DSHS staff is concerned about the precedent that would be set if this suspension is rescinded.”

Third:

“For these reasons, the staff is also concerned that the student has not been transferred from the classroom of a staff member whose reputation was attacked by said student during his speech.”

They then conclude:

“The DSHS staff through its Site Liaison requests that the suspension not be rescinded and that the student be transferred to another classroom in order to promote a safe environment for all at DSHS.”

This memo has apparently caused a number of problems as it appears that the administration at the school still has not put this situation to rest. Moreover, the DTA at the high school has caused tension by speaking on behalf of all teachers when it is not clear that all teachers are in support of their insertion into this situation.

Don Winters, a popular teacher and past president of the DTA as well as a known activist in the city of Davis disagreed with the memo and expressed concern that they had made the decision to publish it without full discussion from the membership at the high school. Moreover, he did not think the memo was appropriate or agree with their conclusions. The HUB then quotes him as saying, “I’ve already expressed my displeasure.”

However, the HUB itself caused some controversy, when it prominently attributed the quote, “I’m not calling her a biggot or a racist, but your actions reflect who you are.” In fact, another student was the one who used that line and somehow it got attributed to Mr. Winters in the paper. That caused more problems and eventually led to a retraction in Monday’s HUB.

At this point, the insertion of the DTA into this process has caused additional problems and headaches to a situation that should have been resolved a few weeks ago when the district rescinded the suspension. At this point, a lawsuit is almost inevitable. There has been serious disruption to this student’s academic year and to the other student’s academic year and climate.

The HUB reports that as a result of this incident, the student body and administration have changed their policies on speeches.

“For assemblies in the future, there will be a much more strict policy on speeches, [on] who will be able to speak and the approval process to ensure that speeches that have been approved are the ones given.” [Quote attributed in the HUB to Associated Student Body President Joe Glass].

Of course, after reading the speeches, the problem did not appear to be in the fact that the student changed the speech, but rather in the approval process itself that allowed the original speech to go forward.

I remain concerned about the well-being of the teacher as well, who has apparently not handled this situation very well first by choosing to confront the student in public, next by overreacting to the speech, then by refusing to return to class, and now apparently by leaving school once again when this article came out in the paper. There have been a number of other problems that have surfaced about this teacher that give one serious pause as to her fitness to teach high school at this point in her career. This is unfortunate, because these do not seem to be malicious mistakes, but rather a series of blunders without proper support from his site administration.

In the end, I think everyone involved is hurt by this incident and a teaching moment is devolving into a legal fight that no one will win in the end.

—Doug Paul Davis reporting

About The Author

David Greenwald is the founder, editor, and executive director of the Davis Vanguard. He founded the Vanguard in 2006. David Greenwald moved to Davis in 1996 to attend Graduate School at UC Davis in Political Science. He lives in South Davis with his wife Cecilia Escamilla Greenwald and three children.

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136 Comments

  1. Anonymous

    Burt Said…

    So the answer is the Student moves to the second calculus class.. getting the education he/she needs, and the teacher comes back to her class so that all the other students get the education they need. I am pretty sure that is called a compromise.

    Inconvient for the student ?, Yes. When I was in school I don’t remember being asked if I liked the way the school or teachers did things.

  2. Anonymous

    Burt Said…

    So the answer is the Student moves to the second calculus class.. getting the education he/she needs, and the teacher comes back to her class so that all the other students get the education they need. I am pretty sure that is called a compromise.

    Inconvient for the student ?, Yes. When I was in school I don’t remember being asked if I liked the way the school or teachers did things.

  3. Anonymous

    Burt Said…

    So the answer is the Student moves to the second calculus class.. getting the education he/she needs, and the teacher comes back to her class so that all the other students get the education they need. I am pretty sure that is called a compromise.

    Inconvient for the student ?, Yes. When I was in school I don’t remember being asked if I liked the way the school or teachers did things.

  4. Anonymous

    Burt Said…

    So the answer is the Student moves to the second calculus class.. getting the education he/she needs, and the teacher comes back to her class so that all the other students get the education they need. I am pretty sure that is called a compromise.

    Inconvient for the student ?, Yes. When I was in school I don’t remember being asked if I liked the way the school or teachers did things.

  5. Don Shor

    Do I understand this correctly?

    Official text was:
    “I am not calling that teacher a bigot or anything, but what I’m saying is that we must watch what we say.”

    Actual quote as delivered was:
    “I’m not calling her a biggot or a racist, but your actions reflect who you are.”

    That’s a big difference.

  6. Don Shor

    Do I understand this correctly?

    Official text was:
    “I am not calling that teacher a bigot or anything, but what I’m saying is that we must watch what we say.”

    Actual quote as delivered was:
    “I’m not calling her a biggot or a racist, but your actions reflect who you are.”

    That’s a big difference.

  7. Don Shor

    Do I understand this correctly?

    Official text was:
    “I am not calling that teacher a bigot or anything, but what I’m saying is that we must watch what we say.”

    Actual quote as delivered was:
    “I’m not calling her a biggot or a racist, but your actions reflect who you are.”

    That’s a big difference.

  8. Don Shor

    Do I understand this correctly?

    Official text was:
    “I am not calling that teacher a bigot or anything, but what I’m saying is that we must watch what we say.”

    Actual quote as delivered was:
    “I’m not calling her a biggot or a racist, but your actions reflect who you are.”

    That’s a big difference.

  9. tansey thomas

    “Burt Said…

    So the answer is the Student moves to the second calculus class.. getting the education he/she needs, and the teacher comes back to her class so that all the other students get the education they need. I am pretty sure that is called a compromise.”

    This solution only allows the continution of serious problems with staff competency. Expediency is a coverup for the mess created by the teacher and site administrators. Is this a rightwing thing? I notice they use their concern for safety as an excuse to continue this travesty. That’s their mantra these days. Doug, you are such a kind compassionate person.

  10. tansey thomas

    “Burt Said…

    So the answer is the Student moves to the second calculus class.. getting the education he/she needs, and the teacher comes back to her class so that all the other students get the education they need. I am pretty sure that is called a compromise.”

    This solution only allows the continution of serious problems with staff competency. Expediency is a coverup for the mess created by the teacher and site administrators. Is this a rightwing thing? I notice they use their concern for safety as an excuse to continue this travesty. That’s their mantra these days. Doug, you are such a kind compassionate person.

  11. tansey thomas

    “Burt Said…

    So the answer is the Student moves to the second calculus class.. getting the education he/she needs, and the teacher comes back to her class so that all the other students get the education they need. I am pretty sure that is called a compromise.”

    This solution only allows the continution of serious problems with staff competency. Expediency is a coverup for the mess created by the teacher and site administrators. Is this a rightwing thing? I notice they use their concern for safety as an excuse to continue this travesty. That’s their mantra these days. Doug, you are such a kind compassionate person.

  12. tansey thomas

    “Burt Said…

    So the answer is the Student moves to the second calculus class.. getting the education he/she needs, and the teacher comes back to her class so that all the other students get the education they need. I am pretty sure that is called a compromise.”

    This solution only allows the continution of serious problems with staff competency. Expediency is a coverup for the mess created by the teacher and site administrators. Is this a rightwing thing? I notice they use their concern for safety as an excuse to continue this travesty. That’s their mantra these days. Doug, you are such a kind compassionate person.

  13. davisite

    Don.. Yes.. it appears that the teenager changed the tone of this phrase significantly. There appears to be inappropriate behavoir for all involved but the teacher is supposed to be the “grown-up”, after all; an emotional immature affair for all involved. People’s Vanguard again performed a valuable public service in following this story and illuminating the lessons to be learned.

  14. davisite

    Don.. Yes.. it appears that the teenager changed the tone of this phrase significantly. There appears to be inappropriate behavoir for all involved but the teacher is supposed to be the “grown-up”, after all; an emotional immature affair for all involved. People’s Vanguard again performed a valuable public service in following this story and illuminating the lessons to be learned.

  15. davisite

    Don.. Yes.. it appears that the teenager changed the tone of this phrase significantly. There appears to be inappropriate behavoir for all involved but the teacher is supposed to be the “grown-up”, after all; an emotional immature affair for all involved. People’s Vanguard again performed a valuable public service in following this story and illuminating the lessons to be learned.

  16. davisite

    Don.. Yes.. it appears that the teenager changed the tone of this phrase significantly. There appears to be inappropriate behavoir for all involved but the teacher is supposed to be the “grown-up”, after all; an emotional immature affair for all involved. People’s Vanguard again performed a valuable public service in following this story and illuminating the lessons to be learned.

  17. Anonymous

    tansey thomas said…

    This solution only allows the continuation of serious problems with staff competency. Expediency is a cover-up for the mess created by the teacher and site administrators. Is this a rightwing thing? I notice they use their concern for safety as an excuse to continue this travesty. That’s their mantra these days. Doug, you are such a kind compassionate person.

    8:14 AM

    Burt Said…

    Is this a rightwing thing?

    I view it as a simple intelligence thing. Here is the current status as I understand it.

    The teacher is not teaching. The students are not learning, and tests are close at hand. Which part of that is Right Wing ??.

    I was not there, so all I know is what I have read. She is not Don Imus. Maybe her fears were justified, maybe they are not. How many of us have reacted badly to a situation in our lives, and how many of us would return to a job were we feel we have been humiliated, especially when our calculus teaching skills would be picked up by any school in the area.

  18. Anonymous

    tansey thomas said…

    This solution only allows the continuation of serious problems with staff competency. Expediency is a cover-up for the mess created by the teacher and site administrators. Is this a rightwing thing? I notice they use their concern for safety as an excuse to continue this travesty. That’s their mantra these days. Doug, you are such a kind compassionate person.

    8:14 AM

    Burt Said…

    Is this a rightwing thing?

    I view it as a simple intelligence thing. Here is the current status as I understand it.

    The teacher is not teaching. The students are not learning, and tests are close at hand. Which part of that is Right Wing ??.

    I was not there, so all I know is what I have read. She is not Don Imus. Maybe her fears were justified, maybe they are not. How many of us have reacted badly to a situation in our lives, and how many of us would return to a job were we feel we have been humiliated, especially when our calculus teaching skills would be picked up by any school in the area.

  19. Anonymous

    tansey thomas said…

    This solution only allows the continuation of serious problems with staff competency. Expediency is a cover-up for the mess created by the teacher and site administrators. Is this a rightwing thing? I notice they use their concern for safety as an excuse to continue this travesty. That’s their mantra these days. Doug, you are such a kind compassionate person.

    8:14 AM

    Burt Said…

    Is this a rightwing thing?

    I view it as a simple intelligence thing. Here is the current status as I understand it.

    The teacher is not teaching. The students are not learning, and tests are close at hand. Which part of that is Right Wing ??.

    I was not there, so all I know is what I have read. She is not Don Imus. Maybe her fears were justified, maybe they are not. How many of us have reacted badly to a situation in our lives, and how many of us would return to a job were we feel we have been humiliated, especially when our calculus teaching skills would be picked up by any school in the area.

  20. Anonymous

    tansey thomas said…

    This solution only allows the continuation of serious problems with staff competency. Expediency is a cover-up for the mess created by the teacher and site administrators. Is this a rightwing thing? I notice they use their concern for safety as an excuse to continue this travesty. That’s their mantra these days. Doug, you are such a kind compassionate person.

    8:14 AM

    Burt Said…

    Is this a rightwing thing?

    I view it as a simple intelligence thing. Here is the current status as I understand it.

    The teacher is not teaching. The students are not learning, and tests are close at hand. Which part of that is Right Wing ??.

    I was not there, so all I know is what I have read. She is not Don Imus. Maybe her fears were justified, maybe they are not. How many of us have reacted badly to a situation in our lives, and how many of us would return to a job were we feel we have been humiliated, especially when our calculus teaching skills would be picked up by any school in the area.

  21. Rich Rifkin

    “However, the HUB itself caused some controversy, when it prominently attributed the quote, ‘I’m not calling her a biggot or a racist, but your actions reflect who you are.’

    Are you saying that no one at The Hub knows how to spell “bigot”? My, how standards have declined since I ran that fine newspaper at Davis High School.

    “I remain concern about the well-being of the teacher as well…”

    You remain concern? I remain concerned about the decline and fall of the English language. What The Hub apparently needs is a good editor.

  22. Rich Rifkin

    “However, the HUB itself caused some controversy, when it prominently attributed the quote, ‘I’m not calling her a biggot or a racist, but your actions reflect who you are.’

    Are you saying that no one at The Hub knows how to spell “bigot”? My, how standards have declined since I ran that fine newspaper at Davis High School.

    “I remain concern about the well-being of the teacher as well…”

    You remain concern? I remain concerned about the decline and fall of the English language. What The Hub apparently needs is a good editor.

  23. Rich Rifkin

    “However, the HUB itself caused some controversy, when it prominently attributed the quote, ‘I’m not calling her a biggot or a racist, but your actions reflect who you are.’

    Are you saying that no one at The Hub knows how to spell “bigot”? My, how standards have declined since I ran that fine newspaper at Davis High School.

    “I remain concern about the well-being of the teacher as well…”

    You remain concern? I remain concerned about the decline and fall of the English language. What The Hub apparently needs is a good editor.

  24. Rich Rifkin

    “However, the HUB itself caused some controversy, when it prominently attributed the quote, ‘I’m not calling her a biggot or a racist, but your actions reflect who you are.’

    Are you saying that no one at The Hub knows how to spell “bigot”? My, how standards have declined since I ran that fine newspaper at Davis High School.

    “I remain concern about the well-being of the teacher as well…”

    You remain concern? I remain concerned about the decline and fall of the English language. What The Hub apparently needs is a good editor.

  25. tansey thomas

    Davisite, if that is what the student said, then certainly that is not “minor editing” as have been previously asserted. But still she is the grownup as you say, dealing with an angry student whom she has publicly and needlessly humiliated. Now it is asserted that the student must be punished for the safety of the school?

    Burt, your point is well taken once the rescinding of the suspension is sustained.

  26. tansey thomas

    Davisite, if that is what the student said, then certainly that is not “minor editing” as have been previously asserted. But still she is the grownup as you say, dealing with an angry student whom she has publicly and needlessly humiliated. Now it is asserted that the student must be punished for the safety of the school?

    Burt, your point is well taken once the rescinding of the suspension is sustained.

  27. tansey thomas

    Davisite, if that is what the student said, then certainly that is not “minor editing” as have been previously asserted. But still she is the grownup as you say, dealing with an angry student whom she has publicly and needlessly humiliated. Now it is asserted that the student must be punished for the safety of the school?

    Burt, your point is well taken once the rescinding of the suspension is sustained.

  28. tansey thomas

    Davisite, if that is what the student said, then certainly that is not “minor editing” as have been previously asserted. But still she is the grownup as you say, dealing with an angry student whom she has publicly and needlessly humiliated. Now it is asserted that the student must be punished for the safety of the school?

    Burt, your point is well taken once the rescinding of the suspension is sustained.

  29. Anonymous

    What a mess.

    It is true that actions reflect who you are.

    The district needs to rescind the suspension.

    Might I suggest that the student finish his calculus studies in independent study? His schedule would not be disrupted and the teacher can finish out the year with the class. Both the student and the teacher need to be responsible for the conflict and resolve it. The student has made his point and the teacher has made hers. Enough.

    This needs to be brought to a close.

  30. Anonymous

    What a mess.

    It is true that actions reflect who you are.

    The district needs to rescind the suspension.

    Might I suggest that the student finish his calculus studies in independent study? His schedule would not be disrupted and the teacher can finish out the year with the class. Both the student and the teacher need to be responsible for the conflict and resolve it. The student has made his point and the teacher has made hers. Enough.

    This needs to be brought to a close.

  31. Anonymous

    What a mess.

    It is true that actions reflect who you are.

    The district needs to rescind the suspension.

    Might I suggest that the student finish his calculus studies in independent study? His schedule would not be disrupted and the teacher can finish out the year with the class. Both the student and the teacher need to be responsible for the conflict and resolve it. The student has made his point and the teacher has made hers. Enough.

    This needs to be brought to a close.

  32. Anonymous

    What a mess.

    It is true that actions reflect who you are.

    The district needs to rescind the suspension.

    Might I suggest that the student finish his calculus studies in independent study? His schedule would not be disrupted and the teacher can finish out the year with the class. Both the student and the teacher need to be responsible for the conflict and resolve it. The student has made his point and the teacher has made hers. Enough.

    This needs to be brought to a close.

  33. Don Shor

    What bothers me is that this is the first time we have heard the actual quote. A reasonable person could infer that the student had called the teacher a racist, in public, before his peers.
    That is not what one would conclude from the published text of his speech.
    So we have a couple more teaching moments here:
    –the difference between a ‘we’ statement and a ‘you’ statement.
    –the importance of acknowledging mistakes and apologizing for offensive statements and actions (on the part of both individuals).

    The suspension has been rescinded, there is another class period available. But of course, positions are now hardened and the clock is running out on the school year.

    Believe it or not, being called a racist is really offensive to some people.

  34. Don Shor

    What bothers me is that this is the first time we have heard the actual quote. A reasonable person could infer that the student had called the teacher a racist, in public, before his peers.
    That is not what one would conclude from the published text of his speech.
    So we have a couple more teaching moments here:
    –the difference between a ‘we’ statement and a ‘you’ statement.
    –the importance of acknowledging mistakes and apologizing for offensive statements and actions (on the part of both individuals).

    The suspension has been rescinded, there is another class period available. But of course, positions are now hardened and the clock is running out on the school year.

    Believe it or not, being called a racist is really offensive to some people.

  35. Don Shor

    What bothers me is that this is the first time we have heard the actual quote. A reasonable person could infer that the student had called the teacher a racist, in public, before his peers.
    That is not what one would conclude from the published text of his speech.
    So we have a couple more teaching moments here:
    –the difference between a ‘we’ statement and a ‘you’ statement.
    –the importance of acknowledging mistakes and apologizing for offensive statements and actions (on the part of both individuals).

    The suspension has been rescinded, there is another class period available. But of course, positions are now hardened and the clock is running out on the school year.

    Believe it or not, being called a racist is really offensive to some people.

  36. Don Shor

    What bothers me is that this is the first time we have heard the actual quote. A reasonable person could infer that the student had called the teacher a racist, in public, before his peers.
    That is not what one would conclude from the published text of his speech.
    So we have a couple more teaching moments here:
    –the difference between a ‘we’ statement and a ‘you’ statement.
    –the importance of acknowledging mistakes and apologizing for offensive statements and actions (on the part of both individuals).

    The suspension has been rescinded, there is another class period available. But of course, positions are now hardened and the clock is running out on the school year.

    Believe it or not, being called a racist is really offensive to some people.

  37. Doug Paul Davis

    I think I need to clarify something here–the quoted statement in my article was taken from the newspaper who had quoted a student at a meeting with teacher Don Winters. That quote was attributed to Don Winters in the article. I do not know that is what the student who gave the speech said and I need to correct that in the text, because I do not know. The text I received is the speech he gave as far as I know.

  38. Doug Paul Davis

    I think I need to clarify something here–the quoted statement in my article was taken from the newspaper who had quoted a student at a meeting with teacher Don Winters. That quote was attributed to Don Winters in the article. I do not know that is what the student who gave the speech said and I need to correct that in the text, because I do not know. The text I received is the speech he gave as far as I know.

  39. Doug Paul Davis

    I think I need to clarify something here–the quoted statement in my article was taken from the newspaper who had quoted a student at a meeting with teacher Don Winters. That quote was attributed to Don Winters in the article. I do not know that is what the student who gave the speech said and I need to correct that in the text, because I do not know. The text I received is the speech he gave as far as I know.

  40. Doug Paul Davis

    I think I need to clarify something here–the quoted statement in my article was taken from the newspaper who had quoted a student at a meeting with teacher Don Winters. That quote was attributed to Don Winters in the article. I do not know that is what the student who gave the speech said and I need to correct that in the text, because I do not know. The text I received is the speech he gave as far as I know.

  41. 無名 - wu ming

    this is rediculous. safety? because a teacher lost face byu doing something offensive and then getting called on it? give me a break. the safety excuse is rediculously overused. the student didn’t threaten her.

    and yeah, rifkin, i was going to snark on the HUB, but you beat me to it. it was not a shining star of journalism bacl when i was at DHS, though, so it’s hardly a decline from my perspective.

  42. 無名 - wu ming

    this is rediculous. safety? because a teacher lost face byu doing something offensive and then getting called on it? give me a break. the safety excuse is rediculously overused. the student didn’t threaten her.

    and yeah, rifkin, i was going to snark on the HUB, but you beat me to it. it was not a shining star of journalism bacl when i was at DHS, though, so it’s hardly a decline from my perspective.

  43. 無名 - wu ming

    this is rediculous. safety? because a teacher lost face byu doing something offensive and then getting called on it? give me a break. the safety excuse is rediculously overused. the student didn’t threaten her.

    and yeah, rifkin, i was going to snark on the HUB, but you beat me to it. it was not a shining star of journalism bacl when i was at DHS, though, so it’s hardly a decline from my perspective.

  44. 無名 - wu ming

    this is rediculous. safety? because a teacher lost face byu doing something offensive and then getting called on it? give me a break. the safety excuse is rediculously overused. the student didn’t threaten her.

    and yeah, rifkin, i was going to snark on the HUB, but you beat me to it. it was not a shining star of journalism bacl when i was at DHS, though, so it’s hardly a decline from my perspective.

  45. Anonymous

    I guess the teacher might find work in better working environment than Davis but I doubt it. It sounds like the teacher is on the ropes emotionally and is in the process of cracking up. The entire immature list of behaviors by the teacher suggest the possibility that a teachers retirement will not be in her future.

    Almost everytime I discipline a kid the race card is an issue. I would like to think that race has nothing to do with it, that it is all about behavior, but, we all have our predjudices. I won’t say I am not predjudiced, I try not to be, but we all have predjudices. To argue otherwise is to be in denial.

    The point is when these accusations are made do we analyze our own behavior to think if there was anything we could have done better. Do we have people of color or mentors we can reflect with whom we can share a different perspective.

    It seems this teacher is really having a hard time working in the public schools which are the equivalent of the modern town square. If you can’t handle diversity in Davis I doubt it would be easier anywhere else in California. I’m sure they need Calculus teachers in Idaho.

  46. Anonymous

    I guess the teacher might find work in better working environment than Davis but I doubt it. It sounds like the teacher is on the ropes emotionally and is in the process of cracking up. The entire immature list of behaviors by the teacher suggest the possibility that a teachers retirement will not be in her future.

    Almost everytime I discipline a kid the race card is an issue. I would like to think that race has nothing to do with it, that it is all about behavior, but, we all have our predjudices. I won’t say I am not predjudiced, I try not to be, but we all have predjudices. To argue otherwise is to be in denial.

    The point is when these accusations are made do we analyze our own behavior to think if there was anything we could have done better. Do we have people of color or mentors we can reflect with whom we can share a different perspective.

    It seems this teacher is really having a hard time working in the public schools which are the equivalent of the modern town square. If you can’t handle diversity in Davis I doubt it would be easier anywhere else in California. I’m sure they need Calculus teachers in Idaho.

  47. Anonymous

    I guess the teacher might find work in better working environment than Davis but I doubt it. It sounds like the teacher is on the ropes emotionally and is in the process of cracking up. The entire immature list of behaviors by the teacher suggest the possibility that a teachers retirement will not be in her future.

    Almost everytime I discipline a kid the race card is an issue. I would like to think that race has nothing to do with it, that it is all about behavior, but, we all have our predjudices. I won’t say I am not predjudiced, I try not to be, but we all have predjudices. To argue otherwise is to be in denial.

    The point is when these accusations are made do we analyze our own behavior to think if there was anything we could have done better. Do we have people of color or mentors we can reflect with whom we can share a different perspective.

    It seems this teacher is really having a hard time working in the public schools which are the equivalent of the modern town square. If you can’t handle diversity in Davis I doubt it would be easier anywhere else in California. I’m sure they need Calculus teachers in Idaho.

  48. Anonymous

    I guess the teacher might find work in better working environment than Davis but I doubt it. It sounds like the teacher is on the ropes emotionally and is in the process of cracking up. The entire immature list of behaviors by the teacher suggest the possibility that a teachers retirement will not be in her future.

    Almost everytime I discipline a kid the race card is an issue. I would like to think that race has nothing to do with it, that it is all about behavior, but, we all have our predjudices. I won’t say I am not predjudiced, I try not to be, but we all have predjudices. To argue otherwise is to be in denial.

    The point is when these accusations are made do we analyze our own behavior to think if there was anything we could have done better. Do we have people of color or mentors we can reflect with whom we can share a different perspective.

    It seems this teacher is really having a hard time working in the public schools which are the equivalent of the modern town square. If you can’t handle diversity in Davis I doubt it would be easier anywhere else in California. I’m sure they need Calculus teachers in Idaho.

  49. Rich Rifkin

    “and yeah, rifkin, i was going to snark on the HUB, but you beat me to it. it was not a shining star of journalism bacl when i was at DHS, though, so it’s hardly a decline from my perspective.”

    Just to brag for a moment… When I was the editor-in-chief of The Hub, we won the award for the best high school newspaper in the Western United States. We also won a number of individual writing awards.

    “and then i go and make a typo. hah.”

    FWIW, the word is spelled “ridiculous,” not “rediculous.”

    “this is rediculous. the safety excuse is rediculously overused.”

  50. Rich Rifkin

    “and yeah, rifkin, i was going to snark on the HUB, but you beat me to it. it was not a shining star of journalism bacl when i was at DHS, though, so it’s hardly a decline from my perspective.”

    Just to brag for a moment… When I was the editor-in-chief of The Hub, we won the award for the best high school newspaper in the Western United States. We also won a number of individual writing awards.

    “and then i go and make a typo. hah.”

    FWIW, the word is spelled “ridiculous,” not “rediculous.”

    “this is rediculous. the safety excuse is rediculously overused.”

  51. Rich Rifkin

    “and yeah, rifkin, i was going to snark on the HUB, but you beat me to it. it was not a shining star of journalism bacl when i was at DHS, though, so it’s hardly a decline from my perspective.”

    Just to brag for a moment… When I was the editor-in-chief of The Hub, we won the award for the best high school newspaper in the Western United States. We also won a number of individual writing awards.

    “and then i go and make a typo. hah.”

    FWIW, the word is spelled “ridiculous,” not “rediculous.”

    “this is rediculous. the safety excuse is rediculously overused.”

  52. Rich Rifkin

    “and yeah, rifkin, i was going to snark on the HUB, but you beat me to it. it was not a shining star of journalism bacl when i was at DHS, though, so it’s hardly a decline from my perspective.”

    Just to brag for a moment… When I was the editor-in-chief of The Hub, we won the award for the best high school newspaper in the Western United States. We also won a number of individual writing awards.

    “and then i go and make a typo. hah.”

    FWIW, the word is spelled “ridiculous,” not “rediculous.”

    “this is rediculous. the safety excuse is rediculously overused.”

  53. Richard

    to the parents of this student: make sure your attorney adds the Davis Teacher’s Association to the complaint

    basically, I was hopeful that this had been resolved, but knowing that Davis is a place where the petulant, like this teacher, are rewarded, and the reasonable, like this student’s family, are not, I’m not surprised to see that this happened

    as I said in the beginning, to believe that this can be resolved without the family obtaining legal representation to show that they are serious is very naive

    too many entrenched institutional forces, the school administrators, the teachers, the teachers’ union, to overcome, because it is not about what is reasonable, what is an appropriate outcome, but about the power that they possess

    for the DTA to openly advocate against the rescission of a student’s suspension is nothing short of outrageous, and, in my opinion, in this situation, legally actionable

    of course, the suggestion that the student finish the semester on independent study is nothing short of hilarious, apparently, that’s always the solution in the Davis Unified School District, kick the kid out of school

    if the family is interested, here are two referrals: Stewart Katz in Sacramento and Matt Gonzalez and Whitney Leigh in SF

    obviously, Katz, being a Sacramento attorney is less expensive, but both will aggressively advocate on their behalf

    –Richard Estes

  54. Richard

    to the parents of this student: make sure your attorney adds the Davis Teacher’s Association to the complaint

    basically, I was hopeful that this had been resolved, but knowing that Davis is a place where the petulant, like this teacher, are rewarded, and the reasonable, like this student’s family, are not, I’m not surprised to see that this happened

    as I said in the beginning, to believe that this can be resolved without the family obtaining legal representation to show that they are serious is very naive

    too many entrenched institutional forces, the school administrators, the teachers, the teachers’ union, to overcome, because it is not about what is reasonable, what is an appropriate outcome, but about the power that they possess

    for the DTA to openly advocate against the rescission of a student’s suspension is nothing short of outrageous, and, in my opinion, in this situation, legally actionable

    of course, the suggestion that the student finish the semester on independent study is nothing short of hilarious, apparently, that’s always the solution in the Davis Unified School District, kick the kid out of school

    if the family is interested, here are two referrals: Stewart Katz in Sacramento and Matt Gonzalez and Whitney Leigh in SF

    obviously, Katz, being a Sacramento attorney is less expensive, but both will aggressively advocate on their behalf

    –Richard Estes

  55. Richard

    to the parents of this student: make sure your attorney adds the Davis Teacher’s Association to the complaint

    basically, I was hopeful that this had been resolved, but knowing that Davis is a place where the petulant, like this teacher, are rewarded, and the reasonable, like this student’s family, are not, I’m not surprised to see that this happened

    as I said in the beginning, to believe that this can be resolved without the family obtaining legal representation to show that they are serious is very naive

    too many entrenched institutional forces, the school administrators, the teachers, the teachers’ union, to overcome, because it is not about what is reasonable, what is an appropriate outcome, but about the power that they possess

    for the DTA to openly advocate against the rescission of a student’s suspension is nothing short of outrageous, and, in my opinion, in this situation, legally actionable

    of course, the suggestion that the student finish the semester on independent study is nothing short of hilarious, apparently, that’s always the solution in the Davis Unified School District, kick the kid out of school

    if the family is interested, here are two referrals: Stewart Katz in Sacramento and Matt Gonzalez and Whitney Leigh in SF

    obviously, Katz, being a Sacramento attorney is less expensive, but both will aggressively advocate on their behalf

    –Richard Estes

  56. Richard

    to the parents of this student: make sure your attorney adds the Davis Teacher’s Association to the complaint

    basically, I was hopeful that this had been resolved, but knowing that Davis is a place where the petulant, like this teacher, are rewarded, and the reasonable, like this student’s family, are not, I’m not surprised to see that this happened

    as I said in the beginning, to believe that this can be resolved without the family obtaining legal representation to show that they are serious is very naive

    too many entrenched institutional forces, the school administrators, the teachers, the teachers’ union, to overcome, because it is not about what is reasonable, what is an appropriate outcome, but about the power that they possess

    for the DTA to openly advocate against the rescission of a student’s suspension is nothing short of outrageous, and, in my opinion, in this situation, legally actionable

    of course, the suggestion that the student finish the semester on independent study is nothing short of hilarious, apparently, that’s always the solution in the Davis Unified School District, kick the kid out of school

    if the family is interested, here are two referrals: Stewart Katz in Sacramento and Matt Gonzalez and Whitney Leigh in SF

    obviously, Katz, being a Sacramento attorney is less expensive, but both will aggressively advocate on their behalf

    –Richard Estes

  57. Don Shor

    “…the suggestion that the student finish the semester on independent study is nothing short of hilarious, apparently, that’s always the solution in the Davis Unified School District, kick the kid out of school…”
    Davis School for Independent Study is a fully accredited school with excellent teachers. Both of my kids went there at various times; my son graduated from DSIS. The split-site option of taking one or more classes at DSIS while taking the remainder at DHS has been useful to many students.

  58. Don Shor

    “…the suggestion that the student finish the semester on independent study is nothing short of hilarious, apparently, that’s always the solution in the Davis Unified School District, kick the kid out of school…”
    Davis School for Independent Study is a fully accredited school with excellent teachers. Both of my kids went there at various times; my son graduated from DSIS. The split-site option of taking one or more classes at DSIS while taking the remainder at DHS has been useful to many students.

  59. Don Shor

    “…the suggestion that the student finish the semester on independent study is nothing short of hilarious, apparently, that’s always the solution in the Davis Unified School District, kick the kid out of school…”
    Davis School for Independent Study is a fully accredited school with excellent teachers. Both of my kids went there at various times; my son graduated from DSIS. The split-site option of taking one or more classes at DSIS while taking the remainder at DHS has been useful to many students.

  60. Don Shor

    “…the suggestion that the student finish the semester on independent study is nothing short of hilarious, apparently, that’s always the solution in the Davis Unified School District, kick the kid out of school…”
    Davis School for Independent Study is a fully accredited school with excellent teachers. Both of my kids went there at various times; my son graduated from DSIS. The split-site option of taking one or more classes at DSIS while taking the remainder at DHS has been useful to many students.

  61. Richard

    it is nice that the independent study program is so wonderful, but the student is not expressing an intention to voluntarily participate in it, he apparently still wants to go to the school site, as many others do, and he has every right to be allowed to do so

    hence, the suggestion that the involuntary placement of him in an independent study program to finish the semester is a solution remains both hilarious and outrageous, just maneuver him, the student around, because the adults in the District can’t resolve problems amongst themselves in a reasonable manner

    if legal action becomes regrettably necessary, as appears to be the case, it is important that the Davis Teachers Association and the teacher be included among the defendants, in order to deter such conduct in the future

    the DTA has issued a statement against rescinding the student’s suspension, which implicitly and unavoidably indicates that the DTA believes that he engaged in misconduct

    that’s got to be actionable, and, as I said, if the family seeks legal advice, I hope that they hold the DTA to task for it

    one wonders if anyone at the DTA is aware of the risk that it is now exposed to because of this statement

    by the way, if the family does seek legal counsel, two more things: (1) DO NOT HIRE anyone from the Yolo County legal club (the Bazayans originally made this mistake, and nearly got forced into having their daughter enter a plea); and (2) file in federal district court in Sacramento and not Yolo County Superior Court

    too many compromising local connections involved

    –Richard Estes

  62. Richard

    it is nice that the independent study program is so wonderful, but the student is not expressing an intention to voluntarily participate in it, he apparently still wants to go to the school site, as many others do, and he has every right to be allowed to do so

    hence, the suggestion that the involuntary placement of him in an independent study program to finish the semester is a solution remains both hilarious and outrageous, just maneuver him, the student around, because the adults in the District can’t resolve problems amongst themselves in a reasonable manner

    if legal action becomes regrettably necessary, as appears to be the case, it is important that the Davis Teachers Association and the teacher be included among the defendants, in order to deter such conduct in the future

    the DTA has issued a statement against rescinding the student’s suspension, which implicitly and unavoidably indicates that the DTA believes that he engaged in misconduct

    that’s got to be actionable, and, as I said, if the family seeks legal advice, I hope that they hold the DTA to task for it

    one wonders if anyone at the DTA is aware of the risk that it is now exposed to because of this statement

    by the way, if the family does seek legal counsel, two more things: (1) DO NOT HIRE anyone from the Yolo County legal club (the Bazayans originally made this mistake, and nearly got forced into having their daughter enter a plea); and (2) file in federal district court in Sacramento and not Yolo County Superior Court

    too many compromising local connections involved

    –Richard Estes

  63. Richard

    it is nice that the independent study program is so wonderful, but the student is not expressing an intention to voluntarily participate in it, he apparently still wants to go to the school site, as many others do, and he has every right to be allowed to do so

    hence, the suggestion that the involuntary placement of him in an independent study program to finish the semester is a solution remains both hilarious and outrageous, just maneuver him, the student around, because the adults in the District can’t resolve problems amongst themselves in a reasonable manner

    if legal action becomes regrettably necessary, as appears to be the case, it is important that the Davis Teachers Association and the teacher be included among the defendants, in order to deter such conduct in the future

    the DTA has issued a statement against rescinding the student’s suspension, which implicitly and unavoidably indicates that the DTA believes that he engaged in misconduct

    that’s got to be actionable, and, as I said, if the family seeks legal advice, I hope that they hold the DTA to task for it

    one wonders if anyone at the DTA is aware of the risk that it is now exposed to because of this statement

    by the way, if the family does seek legal counsel, two more things: (1) DO NOT HIRE anyone from the Yolo County legal club (the Bazayans originally made this mistake, and nearly got forced into having their daughter enter a plea); and (2) file in federal district court in Sacramento and not Yolo County Superior Court

    too many compromising local connections involved

    –Richard Estes

  64. Richard

    it is nice that the independent study program is so wonderful, but the student is not expressing an intention to voluntarily participate in it, he apparently still wants to go to the school site, as many others do, and he has every right to be allowed to do so

    hence, the suggestion that the involuntary placement of him in an independent study program to finish the semester is a solution remains both hilarious and outrageous, just maneuver him, the student around, because the adults in the District can’t resolve problems amongst themselves in a reasonable manner

    if legal action becomes regrettably necessary, as appears to be the case, it is important that the Davis Teachers Association and the teacher be included among the defendants, in order to deter such conduct in the future

    the DTA has issued a statement against rescinding the student’s suspension, which implicitly and unavoidably indicates that the DTA believes that he engaged in misconduct

    that’s got to be actionable, and, as I said, if the family seeks legal advice, I hope that they hold the DTA to task for it

    one wonders if anyone at the DTA is aware of the risk that it is now exposed to because of this statement

    by the way, if the family does seek legal counsel, two more things: (1) DO NOT HIRE anyone from the Yolo County legal club (the Bazayans originally made this mistake, and nearly got forced into having their daughter enter a plea); and (2) file in federal district court in Sacramento and not Yolo County Superior Court

    too many compromising local connections involved

    –Richard Estes

  65. Anonymous

    CTA should recognize that the teacher may have had good intentions, but clearly needs additional training. After all she is the adult. Both parties agreed to go back to class and it was the teacher who could not handle the situation all the while the 17-year-old student is handling it well.

    Perhaps mediation?

  66. Anonymous

    CTA should recognize that the teacher may have had good intentions, but clearly needs additional training. After all she is the adult. Both parties agreed to go back to class and it was the teacher who could not handle the situation all the while the 17-year-old student is handling it well.

    Perhaps mediation?

  67. Anonymous

    CTA should recognize that the teacher may have had good intentions, but clearly needs additional training. After all she is the adult. Both parties agreed to go back to class and it was the teacher who could not handle the situation all the while the 17-year-old student is handling it well.

    Perhaps mediation?

  68. Anonymous

    CTA should recognize that the teacher may have had good intentions, but clearly needs additional training. After all she is the adult. Both parties agreed to go back to class and it was the teacher who could not handle the situation all the while the 17-year-old student is handling it well.

    Perhaps mediation?

  69. Anonymous

    Sorry, call me crazy, but isn’t the idea behind a union to support your employees? I’m not saying I think the teacher is blameless in this case. I think she showed some errors in judgement, as did the student in question. However, I guess I don’t understand why people are so shocked to see a teacher’s union taking the side of the teacher?

  70. Anonymous

    Sorry, call me crazy, but isn’t the idea behind a union to support your employees? I’m not saying I think the teacher is blameless in this case. I think she showed some errors in judgement, as did the student in question. However, I guess I don’t understand why people are so shocked to see a teacher’s union taking the side of the teacher?

  71. Anonymous

    Sorry, call me crazy, but isn’t the idea behind a union to support your employees? I’m not saying I think the teacher is blameless in this case. I think she showed some errors in judgement, as did the student in question. However, I guess I don’t understand why people are so shocked to see a teacher’s union taking the side of the teacher?

  72. Anonymous

    Sorry, call me crazy, but isn’t the idea behind a union to support your employees? I’m not saying I think the teacher is blameless in this case. I think she showed some errors in judgement, as did the student in question. However, I guess I don’t understand why people are so shocked to see a teacher’s union taking the side of the teacher?

  73. Richard

    Don, see comment 8 by anonymous:

    Might I suggest that the student finish his calculus studies in independent study?

    Only one class, to be sure, but why is the student being forced to compromise because a teacher is too emotionally immature to do her job, and the District is too indecisive to make her do it?

    It is an important point. The teacher unilaterally refused to teach the class because of the return of the student.

    Perhaps, the DTA can identify a section in the collective bargaining agreement which allows a teacher to refuse to work and refuse to participate in any grievance or mediation process in order to get their way, which she seems to be accomplishing in this in instance.

    My guess, and it is only a guess, is that the real constituency here are the parents of the other students in the class, By refusing to work as required, she is frightening them into believing that their children will not be able to complete the class, and potentially, inducing them to call the District offices in support of her. That might explain the District’s intransigence better than the DTA support of the teacher.

    It would be nice if we lived in a world where these sorts of things could be reasonably resolved, but, unfortunately, we don’t.

    By the way, did I mention that things like this won’t help the District pass any bonds in the future?

    –Richard Estes

  74. Richard

    Don, see comment 8 by anonymous:

    Might I suggest that the student finish his calculus studies in independent study?

    Only one class, to be sure, but why is the student being forced to compromise because a teacher is too emotionally immature to do her job, and the District is too indecisive to make her do it?

    It is an important point. The teacher unilaterally refused to teach the class because of the return of the student.

    Perhaps, the DTA can identify a section in the collective bargaining agreement which allows a teacher to refuse to work and refuse to participate in any grievance or mediation process in order to get their way, which she seems to be accomplishing in this in instance.

    My guess, and it is only a guess, is that the real constituency here are the parents of the other students in the class, By refusing to work as required, she is frightening them into believing that their children will not be able to complete the class, and potentially, inducing them to call the District offices in support of her. That might explain the District’s intransigence better than the DTA support of the teacher.

    It would be nice if we lived in a world where these sorts of things could be reasonably resolved, but, unfortunately, we don’t.

    By the way, did I mention that things like this won’t help the District pass any bonds in the future?

    –Richard Estes

  75. Richard

    Don, see comment 8 by anonymous:

    Might I suggest that the student finish his calculus studies in independent study?

    Only one class, to be sure, but why is the student being forced to compromise because a teacher is too emotionally immature to do her job, and the District is too indecisive to make her do it?

    It is an important point. The teacher unilaterally refused to teach the class because of the return of the student.

    Perhaps, the DTA can identify a section in the collective bargaining agreement which allows a teacher to refuse to work and refuse to participate in any grievance or mediation process in order to get their way, which she seems to be accomplishing in this in instance.

    My guess, and it is only a guess, is that the real constituency here are the parents of the other students in the class, By refusing to work as required, she is frightening them into believing that their children will not be able to complete the class, and potentially, inducing them to call the District offices in support of her. That might explain the District’s intransigence better than the DTA support of the teacher.

    It would be nice if we lived in a world where these sorts of things could be reasonably resolved, but, unfortunately, we don’t.

    By the way, did I mention that things like this won’t help the District pass any bonds in the future?

    –Richard Estes

  76. Richard

    Don, see comment 8 by anonymous:

    Might I suggest that the student finish his calculus studies in independent study?

    Only one class, to be sure, but why is the student being forced to compromise because a teacher is too emotionally immature to do her job, and the District is too indecisive to make her do it?

    It is an important point. The teacher unilaterally refused to teach the class because of the return of the student.

    Perhaps, the DTA can identify a section in the collective bargaining agreement which allows a teacher to refuse to work and refuse to participate in any grievance or mediation process in order to get their way, which she seems to be accomplishing in this in instance.

    My guess, and it is only a guess, is that the real constituency here are the parents of the other students in the class, By refusing to work as required, she is frightening them into believing that their children will not be able to complete the class, and potentially, inducing them to call the District offices in support of her. That might explain the District’s intransigence better than the DTA support of the teacher.

    It would be nice if we lived in a world where these sorts of things could be reasonably resolved, but, unfortunately, we don’t.

    By the way, did I mention that things like this won’t help the District pass any bonds in the future?

    –Richard Estes

  77. Doug Paul Davis

    My wife is a union rep and there have been cases where her member that she is representing is clearly in the wrong and in those cases, they still represent the best interest of that employee, but it is generally done to get the best possible settlement or do what they can, they do not defend what they deem indefensible.

  78. Doug Paul Davis

    My wife is a union rep and there have been cases where her member that she is representing is clearly in the wrong and in those cases, they still represent the best interest of that employee, but it is generally done to get the best possible settlement or do what they can, they do not defend what they deem indefensible.

  79. Doug Paul Davis

    My wife is a union rep and there have been cases where her member that she is representing is clearly in the wrong and in those cases, they still represent the best interest of that employee, but it is generally done to get the best possible settlement or do what they can, they do not defend what they deem indefensible.

  80. Doug Paul Davis

    My wife is a union rep and there have been cases where her member that she is representing is clearly in the wrong and in those cases, they still represent the best interest of that employee, but it is generally done to get the best possible settlement or do what they can, they do not defend what they deem indefensible.

  81. sharla

    I was the one who suggested that the student finish up the course in Calculus through independent study.

    This is a compromise to be sure, but some times in life you have to find a solution that will get you to your goal. He could take the course independently through the other calculus teacher at the High School, or the head of the Math department at DHS or at DSIS if they can accomodate him. Any solution to get him through the course and graduated from DHS and off to college. Isn’t that the goal?

    My son is a graduating senior at DSIS so I know for a fact that he would enjoy taking the class there.

    As for the teacher, she needs to look at how her actions have impacted the class, the school and the community and come up with a compromise or two of her own with the goal getting back in the classroom and focused on teaching. I’m guessing that this is what she’d really like to do.

    I urge the community to encourage this kind of resolution instead of law suits and termination/suspension.

  82. sharla

    I was the one who suggested that the student finish up the course in Calculus through independent study.

    This is a compromise to be sure, but some times in life you have to find a solution that will get you to your goal. He could take the course independently through the other calculus teacher at the High School, or the head of the Math department at DHS or at DSIS if they can accomodate him. Any solution to get him through the course and graduated from DHS and off to college. Isn’t that the goal?

    My son is a graduating senior at DSIS so I know for a fact that he would enjoy taking the class there.

    As for the teacher, she needs to look at how her actions have impacted the class, the school and the community and come up with a compromise or two of her own with the goal getting back in the classroom and focused on teaching. I’m guessing that this is what she’d really like to do.

    I urge the community to encourage this kind of resolution instead of law suits and termination/suspension.

  83. sharla

    I was the one who suggested that the student finish up the course in Calculus through independent study.

    This is a compromise to be sure, but some times in life you have to find a solution that will get you to your goal. He could take the course independently through the other calculus teacher at the High School, or the head of the Math department at DHS or at DSIS if they can accomodate him. Any solution to get him through the course and graduated from DHS and off to college. Isn’t that the goal?

    My son is a graduating senior at DSIS so I know for a fact that he would enjoy taking the class there.

    As for the teacher, she needs to look at how her actions have impacted the class, the school and the community and come up with a compromise or two of her own with the goal getting back in the classroom and focused on teaching. I’m guessing that this is what she’d really like to do.

    I urge the community to encourage this kind of resolution instead of law suits and termination/suspension.

  84. sharla

    I was the one who suggested that the student finish up the course in Calculus through independent study.

    This is a compromise to be sure, but some times in life you have to find a solution that will get you to your goal. He could take the course independently through the other calculus teacher at the High School, or the head of the Math department at DHS or at DSIS if they can accomodate him. Any solution to get him through the course and graduated from DHS and off to college. Isn’t that the goal?

    My son is a graduating senior at DSIS so I know for a fact that he would enjoy taking the class there.

    As for the teacher, she needs to look at how her actions have impacted the class, the school and the community and come up with a compromise or two of her own with the goal getting back in the classroom and focused on teaching. I’m guessing that this is what she’d really like to do.

    I urge the community to encourage this kind of resolution instead of law suits and termination/suspension.

  85. Rich Rifkin

    “I urge the community to encourage this kind of resolution instead of law suits and termination/suspension.”

    The guy who is constantly egging people on to file lawsuits does not live in our community, nor does he apparently care for it.

  86. Rich Rifkin

    “I urge the community to encourage this kind of resolution instead of law suits and termination/suspension.”

    The guy who is constantly egging people on to file lawsuits does not live in our community, nor does he apparently care for it.

  87. Rich Rifkin

    “I urge the community to encourage this kind of resolution instead of law suits and termination/suspension.”

    The guy who is constantly egging people on to file lawsuits does not live in our community, nor does he apparently care for it.

  88. Rich Rifkin

    “I urge the community to encourage this kind of resolution instead of law suits and termination/suspension.”

    The guy who is constantly egging people on to file lawsuits does not live in our community, nor does he apparently care for it.

  89. Richard

    of course, you’d never want to consider hiring an attorney to negoitate, and, if necessary, if the District fails to appropriately respond, bring a legal action, especially when the alternative, showing weakness by saying that the community should support some vague, amorphous, non-conflicted oriented resolution, a resolution in which the District is disinterested

    you hire an attorney to get the District to take the matter seriously, to avoid a lawsuit, while displaying a willingness to file, if necessary

    as for Rich, feel free to address the substance of what I have written here anytime, as opposed to taking the approach of your good friend Bob Dunning, and engaging in petty character assassination

    or, maybe, you’ve already decided that’s not especially productive for you

    –Richard Estes

  90. Richard

    of course, you’d never want to consider hiring an attorney to negoitate, and, if necessary, if the District fails to appropriately respond, bring a legal action, especially when the alternative, showing weakness by saying that the community should support some vague, amorphous, non-conflicted oriented resolution, a resolution in which the District is disinterested

    you hire an attorney to get the District to take the matter seriously, to avoid a lawsuit, while displaying a willingness to file, if necessary

    as for Rich, feel free to address the substance of what I have written here anytime, as opposed to taking the approach of your good friend Bob Dunning, and engaging in petty character assassination

    or, maybe, you’ve already decided that’s not especially productive for you

    –Richard Estes

  91. Richard

    of course, you’d never want to consider hiring an attorney to negoitate, and, if necessary, if the District fails to appropriately respond, bring a legal action, especially when the alternative, showing weakness by saying that the community should support some vague, amorphous, non-conflicted oriented resolution, a resolution in which the District is disinterested

    you hire an attorney to get the District to take the matter seriously, to avoid a lawsuit, while displaying a willingness to file, if necessary

    as for Rich, feel free to address the substance of what I have written here anytime, as opposed to taking the approach of your good friend Bob Dunning, and engaging in petty character assassination

    or, maybe, you’ve already decided that’s not especially productive for you

    –Richard Estes

  92. Richard

    of course, you’d never want to consider hiring an attorney to negoitate, and, if necessary, if the District fails to appropriately respond, bring a legal action, especially when the alternative, showing weakness by saying that the community should support some vague, amorphous, non-conflicted oriented resolution, a resolution in which the District is disinterested

    you hire an attorney to get the District to take the matter seriously, to avoid a lawsuit, while displaying a willingness to file, if necessary

    as for Rich, feel free to address the substance of what I have written here anytime, as opposed to taking the approach of your good friend Bob Dunning, and engaging in petty character assassination

    or, maybe, you’ve already decided that’s not especially productive for you

    –Richard Estes

  93. Nikki Smith

    As a teacher, I can not imagine refusing to teach because of a specific student’s presence in my classroom. Perhaps the student should not dictate everything that happens as a result of this situation. On the other hand, this is public education where everyone has the legal right to equal access. It is the teacher’s duty to teach all students enrolled.

    It amazes me that anyone would try to justify the teacher’s actions or force the student to do anything other than continue his education as before.

    Sadly, this idea of changing a teacher’s class list to simplify things for that teacher is one I have encountered in Davis before. When I was pregnant, I had a student in my class who tended to have outbursts. He was a great kid with special circumstances, and I actually got along very well with him. I was called into the office in the middle of the year and told he was going to be pulled from my class to make things easier for me. I had not complained, nor had the parent of the child. I refused to let him go. I could not understand how forcing this child to adjust to a new classroom and simplifying things for me, an adult being paid to do a job, was in the best interest of the child. Those in the meeting acted shocked that I wasn’t scared of the child or appreciative of the offer.

    As teachers, we are public servants. We are responsible for the academic, emotional, social, and physical well-being of the children in our classes. Is it a tough job? Absolutely. Are we compensated financially for all that we do? Nope. But we know that going in.

    Any person not prepared to deal with children who say things that offend him/her should probably not teach.

    I hate to see the situation drawn out for everyone involved, but I hope all of this time will be used to come up with a solution that puts ALL children first, even those that speak their minds.

  94. Nikki Smith

    As a teacher, I can not imagine refusing to teach because of a specific student’s presence in my classroom. Perhaps the student should not dictate everything that happens as a result of this situation. On the other hand, this is public education where everyone has the legal right to equal access. It is the teacher’s duty to teach all students enrolled.

    It amazes me that anyone would try to justify the teacher’s actions or force the student to do anything other than continue his education as before.

    Sadly, this idea of changing a teacher’s class list to simplify things for that teacher is one I have encountered in Davis before. When I was pregnant, I had a student in my class who tended to have outbursts. He was a great kid with special circumstances, and I actually got along very well with him. I was called into the office in the middle of the year and told he was going to be pulled from my class to make things easier for me. I had not complained, nor had the parent of the child. I refused to let him go. I could not understand how forcing this child to adjust to a new classroom and simplifying things for me, an adult being paid to do a job, was in the best interest of the child. Those in the meeting acted shocked that I wasn’t scared of the child or appreciative of the offer.

    As teachers, we are public servants. We are responsible for the academic, emotional, social, and physical well-being of the children in our classes. Is it a tough job? Absolutely. Are we compensated financially for all that we do? Nope. But we know that going in.

    Any person not prepared to deal with children who say things that offend him/her should probably not teach.

    I hate to see the situation drawn out for everyone involved, but I hope all of this time will be used to come up with a solution that puts ALL children first, even those that speak their minds.

  95. Nikki Smith

    As a teacher, I can not imagine refusing to teach because of a specific student’s presence in my classroom. Perhaps the student should not dictate everything that happens as a result of this situation. On the other hand, this is public education where everyone has the legal right to equal access. It is the teacher’s duty to teach all students enrolled.

    It amazes me that anyone would try to justify the teacher’s actions or force the student to do anything other than continue his education as before.

    Sadly, this idea of changing a teacher’s class list to simplify things for that teacher is one I have encountered in Davis before. When I was pregnant, I had a student in my class who tended to have outbursts. He was a great kid with special circumstances, and I actually got along very well with him. I was called into the office in the middle of the year and told he was going to be pulled from my class to make things easier for me. I had not complained, nor had the parent of the child. I refused to let him go. I could not understand how forcing this child to adjust to a new classroom and simplifying things for me, an adult being paid to do a job, was in the best interest of the child. Those in the meeting acted shocked that I wasn’t scared of the child or appreciative of the offer.

    As teachers, we are public servants. We are responsible for the academic, emotional, social, and physical well-being of the children in our classes. Is it a tough job? Absolutely. Are we compensated financially for all that we do? Nope. But we know that going in.

    Any person not prepared to deal with children who say things that offend him/her should probably not teach.

    I hate to see the situation drawn out for everyone involved, but I hope all of this time will be used to come up with a solution that puts ALL children first, even those that speak their minds.

  96. Nikki Smith

    As a teacher, I can not imagine refusing to teach because of a specific student’s presence in my classroom. Perhaps the student should not dictate everything that happens as a result of this situation. On the other hand, this is public education where everyone has the legal right to equal access. It is the teacher’s duty to teach all students enrolled.

    It amazes me that anyone would try to justify the teacher’s actions or force the student to do anything other than continue his education as before.

    Sadly, this idea of changing a teacher’s class list to simplify things for that teacher is one I have encountered in Davis before. When I was pregnant, I had a student in my class who tended to have outbursts. He was a great kid with special circumstances, and I actually got along very well with him. I was called into the office in the middle of the year and told he was going to be pulled from my class to make things easier for me. I had not complained, nor had the parent of the child. I refused to let him go. I could not understand how forcing this child to adjust to a new classroom and simplifying things for me, an adult being paid to do a job, was in the best interest of the child. Those in the meeting acted shocked that I wasn’t scared of the child or appreciative of the offer.

    As teachers, we are public servants. We are responsible for the academic, emotional, social, and physical well-being of the children in our classes. Is it a tough job? Absolutely. Are we compensated financially for all that we do? Nope. But we know that going in.

    Any person not prepared to deal with children who say things that offend him/her should probably not teach.

    I hate to see the situation drawn out for everyone involved, but I hope all of this time will be used to come up with a solution that puts ALL children first, even those that speak their minds.

  97. Anonymous

    “Nor does he apparently care for it.”

    If he didn’t care why would he bother to write. Indeed he must care a great deal.

    Further, one of the great things about the internet is that it is world wide. If you want a blog that is only open to people who live in a certain area create one. There is no residence requirement on this one.

  98. Anonymous

    “Nor does he apparently care for it.”

    If he didn’t care why would he bother to write. Indeed he must care a great deal.

    Further, one of the great things about the internet is that it is world wide. If you want a blog that is only open to people who live in a certain area create one. There is no residence requirement on this one.

  99. Anonymous

    “Nor does he apparently care for it.”

    If he didn’t care why would he bother to write. Indeed he must care a great deal.

    Further, one of the great things about the internet is that it is world wide. If you want a blog that is only open to people who live in a certain area create one. There is no residence requirement on this one.

  100. Anonymous

    “Nor does he apparently care for it.”

    If he didn’t care why would he bother to write. Indeed he must care a great deal.

    Further, one of the great things about the internet is that it is world wide. If you want a blog that is only open to people who live in a certain area create one. There is no residence requirement on this one.

  101. Anonymous

    easy issue to resolve
    make students accountable for their speeches like the grown-ups they are and if this teacher really thinks she did nothing wrong let her defend that. the school district is doing the wrong thing by being (more of) a “big brother” in response to this.
    -DHS student who remains anonymous to not get in trouble with draconian adminstrators

  102. Anonymous

    easy issue to resolve
    make students accountable for their speeches like the grown-ups they are and if this teacher really thinks she did nothing wrong let her defend that. the school district is doing the wrong thing by being (more of) a “big brother” in response to this.
    -DHS student who remains anonymous to not get in trouble with draconian adminstrators

  103. Anonymous

    easy issue to resolve
    make students accountable for their speeches like the grown-ups they are and if this teacher really thinks she did nothing wrong let her defend that. the school district is doing the wrong thing by being (more of) a “big brother” in response to this.
    -DHS student who remains anonymous to not get in trouble with draconian adminstrators

  104. Anonymous

    easy issue to resolve
    make students accountable for their speeches like the grown-ups they are and if this teacher really thinks she did nothing wrong let her defend that. the school district is doing the wrong thing by being (more of) a “big brother” in response to this.
    -DHS student who remains anonymous to not get in trouble with draconian adminstrators

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