Sodexho Workers and Supporters March on Mrak Hall; Mrak Hall Locked Down

In the second large protest on the UC Davis campus this month, over 100 Sodexho Workers, Union Organizers, and other supporters marched from the Memorial Union to Mrak Hall in protest of the University’s outsourcing of food service workers. On May 1, over 500 people marched down to the intersection of Anderson and Russell where 24 people sat down in the street and were arrested in a peaceful act of civil disobedience.

According to organizers, the main issues are ability over over 550 food service workers, custodians, and cooks to get university jobs which would entitle them to higher pay. An outsourced worker gets around $10.35 an hour versus a starting minimum over over $12 hour and a max of up to $15.50 for a university employee. However, even more important are health care benefits. One of the workers told me she was paying over $100 for her health care package where a UC Davis employed worker would only pay about 5% of that.

The protesters marched from the Memorial Union to Mrak Hall where they chanted and begged and requested Larry Vanderhoef to come out and talk with them. At one point asking him to quit hiding and to come out and talked.

The organizers read a newly released letter from the Chancellor’s office telling them that the university intended to honor their contract with Sodexho until it expired in 2010. This brought an angry reaction from the protesters.

A small contingent of 15 protesters had gotten inside the building prior to the protest and spoke to the crowd from second story windows. According to later reports, 15 of these people were arrested when they refused to leave the building.

The building was eventually locked down out of concern for public safety and the safety of the employees working in the building, although the crowd was largely well organized and did not seem to present a tremendous danger. The doors locked and protesters outside demanding action.

One of the organizers told me that other universities arrangements were made so that the workers could be both Sodexho Employees and university employees, thereby honoring the contract while the workers were able to enjoy the full benefits that other university employees enjoy.

Alma Martinez, one of the organizers, had a strong message to the folks in Davis who may only be somewhat aware of this struggle in their midst.

“Our message is wake up Davis! On May first, you saw what we can do. The perception is that this is just a white town, but we’re here, we care about issues, we are not just letting this thing go by…. Here locally there are things happening that we can change, and we can bring up justice in our own community.”

Meanwhile the university appears to be trying to run out the clock. According to Alma Martinez,

“It is definitely a stalling tactic. This is not the first time this happened, this also happened two years ago… What they did last time is try to push it back to summer… But this time around we made sure we had enough support [at the] start this time around, that’s why we waited so long to actually have the first public action. That’s what they are trying to do, summer comes along, students leave, and we have to start all over again. But this summer it’s going to be different, we are going to constantly be here. We are definitely going to keeping fighting this until it happens. As Dr. King puts it, injustice to one is injustice to all.”

In an April 10, 2007 letter to the Chancellor Larry Vanderhoef, State Assemblywoman Lois Wolk said:

“I am very concerned about the practice of contracting out of more than 500 service workers at the University of California, Davis. In talking with some of these workers, many of whom were students and rely on these wages to pay for school, it became apparent that their health benefits are minimal and that their wages are among the lowest in the entire UC system.”

Still the Assemblywoman has played a low key role, urging Vanderhoef to meet with the workers and the AFSCME representatives to “discuss how and when UCD will eliminate its contracting-out practice. but not doing so in a public manner. “

Meanwhile it remains clear that this battle is far from over with the university apparently now digging in its heals and the protesters not about to go away.

—Doug Paul Davis reporting

About The Author

David Greenwald is the founder, editor, and executive director of the Davis Vanguard. He founded the Vanguard in 2006. David Greenwald moved to Davis in 1996 to attend Graduate School at UC Davis in Political Science. He lives in South Davis with his wife Cecilia Escamilla Greenwald and three children.

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  1. Anonymous

    It is obvious to me that there is a tremendous amount of waste at UCD. If Larry Vanderhoef made any effort at all he could come up with the money to pay these people University wages. I find it interesting that he can pay a person who does no work at all (a $50K bonus and $205K salary), but can not find an extra $1.65 per hour for hundreds of people who are working hard all of the time.

    This a person who shuns people who demand some sort of immigration policy, but can not manage to offer a living wage to people who are already in the Country.

  2. Anonymous

    It is obvious to me that there is a tremendous amount of waste at UCD. If Larry Vanderhoef made any effort at all he could come up with the money to pay these people University wages. I find it interesting that he can pay a person who does no work at all (a $50K bonus and $205K salary), but can not find an extra $1.65 per hour for hundreds of people who are working hard all of the time.

    This a person who shuns people who demand some sort of immigration policy, but can not manage to offer a living wage to people who are already in the Country.

  3. Anonymous

    It is obvious to me that there is a tremendous amount of waste at UCD. If Larry Vanderhoef made any effort at all he could come up with the money to pay these people University wages. I find it interesting that he can pay a person who does no work at all (a $50K bonus and $205K salary), but can not find an extra $1.65 per hour for hundreds of people who are working hard all of the time.

    This a person who shuns people who demand some sort of immigration policy, but can not manage to offer a living wage to people who are already in the Country.

  4. Anonymous

    It is obvious to me that there is a tremendous amount of waste at UCD. If Larry Vanderhoef made any effort at all he could come up with the money to pay these people University wages. I find it interesting that he can pay a person who does no work at all (a $50K bonus and $205K salary), but can not find an extra $1.65 per hour for hundreds of people who are working hard all of the time.

    This a person who shuns people who demand some sort of immigration policy, but can not manage to offer a living wage to people who are already in the Country.

  5. Anonymous

    It seems odd that the people who serve food to the big wigs at the university and their VIP guests don’t have good health care or sick leave. Doesn’t this create a health risk for the people eating the food these workers might be serving when they are sick but can’t afford time off or to see a doctor?

    Ron Glick

  6. Anonymous

    It seems odd that the people who serve food to the big wigs at the university and their VIP guests don’t have good health care or sick leave. Doesn’t this create a health risk for the people eating the food these workers might be serving when they are sick but can’t afford time off or to see a doctor?

    Ron Glick

  7. Anonymous

    It seems odd that the people who serve food to the big wigs at the university and their VIP guests don’t have good health care or sick leave. Doesn’t this create a health risk for the people eating the food these workers might be serving when they are sick but can’t afford time off or to see a doctor?

    Ron Glick

  8. Anonymous

    It seems odd that the people who serve food to the big wigs at the university and their VIP guests don’t have good health care or sick leave. Doesn’t this create a health risk for the people eating the food these workers might be serving when they are sick but can’t afford time off or to see a doctor?

    Ron Glick

  9. Anonymous

    Thank you, Davis College Republican lackey, for trying to draw a non-existent link between a real protest for a living wage, and your lame little immigration game.

  10. Anonymous

    Thank you, Davis College Republican lackey, for trying to draw a non-existent link between a real protest for a living wage, and your lame little immigration game.

  11. Anonymous

    Thank you, Davis College Republican lackey, for trying to draw a non-existent link between a real protest for a living wage, and your lame little immigration game.

  12. Anonymous

    Thank you, Davis College Republican lackey, for trying to draw a non-existent link between a real protest for a living wage, and your lame little immigration game.

  13. Vincente

    This university unfortunately has a history of mistreating its workers and being anti-union, yep, right here in progress davis home everything that is right and relevant.

  14. Vincente

    This university unfortunately has a history of mistreating its workers and being anti-union, yep, right here in progress davis home everything that is right and relevant.

  15. Vincente

    This university unfortunately has a history of mistreating its workers and being anti-union, yep, right here in progress davis home everything that is right and relevant.

  16. Vincente

    This university unfortunately has a history of mistreating its workers and being anti-union, yep, right here in progress davis home everything that is right and relevant.

  17. Jessica

    Great work on behalf of the workers, students, staff, professors, and community members.

    It’s a shame that top UC officials get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and they can’t even pay the food service workers a decent wage and health benefits.

    Lois Wolk should put more pressure on Vanderhoef. She is in the position to do so as is Senator Mike Machado. STEP UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING!!! I appreciate her somewhat weak letter of support, but she can do a lot more and so can Machado.

  18. Jessica

    Great work on behalf of the workers, students, staff, professors, and community members.

    It’s a shame that top UC officials get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and they can’t even pay the food service workers a decent wage and health benefits.

    Lois Wolk should put more pressure on Vanderhoef. She is in the position to do so as is Senator Mike Machado. STEP UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING!!! I appreciate her somewhat weak letter of support, but she can do a lot more and so can Machado.

  19. Jessica

    Great work on behalf of the workers, students, staff, professors, and community members.

    It’s a shame that top UC officials get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and they can’t even pay the food service workers a decent wage and health benefits.

    Lois Wolk should put more pressure on Vanderhoef. She is in the position to do so as is Senator Mike Machado. STEP UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING!!! I appreciate her somewhat weak letter of support, but she can do a lot more and so can Machado.

  20. Jessica

    Great work on behalf of the workers, students, staff, professors, and community members.

    It’s a shame that top UC officials get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and they can’t even pay the food service workers a decent wage and health benefits.

    Lois Wolk should put more pressure on Vanderhoef. She is in the position to do so as is Senator Mike Machado. STEP UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING!!! I appreciate her somewhat weak letter of support, but she can do a lot more and so can Machado.

  21. Anonymous

    I certainly believe in the right to protest, and on this issue, I side with the activists. However, this really struck me:
    Mrak was “locked down for no apparent or good reason.”
    Really? Hundreds of angry protesters descending on Mrak are no apparent reason for being concerned about safety?
    Please think through your knee-jerk reactions.
    Ruth

  22. Anonymous

    I certainly believe in the right to protest, and on this issue, I side with the activists. However, this really struck me:
    Mrak was “locked down for no apparent or good reason.”
    Really? Hundreds of angry protesters descending on Mrak are no apparent reason for being concerned about safety?
    Please think through your knee-jerk reactions.
    Ruth

  23. Anonymous

    I certainly believe in the right to protest, and on this issue, I side with the activists. However, this really struck me:
    Mrak was “locked down for no apparent or good reason.”
    Really? Hundreds of angry protesters descending on Mrak are no apparent reason for being concerned about safety?
    Please think through your knee-jerk reactions.
    Ruth

  24. Anonymous

    I certainly believe in the right to protest, and on this issue, I side with the activists. However, this really struck me:
    Mrak was “locked down for no apparent or good reason.”
    Really? Hundreds of angry protesters descending on Mrak are no apparent reason for being concerned about safety?
    Please think through your knee-jerk reactions.
    Ruth

  25. Doug Paul Davis

    It was hardly a “knee jerk” reaction, I witnessed a far larger group organized by these individuals three weeks ago calmly go down without a hitch and I watched the professionalism of this group. There was no threat to public safety. I stand by my statement–there was no good reason to lock down the building.

  26. Doug Paul Davis

    It was hardly a “knee jerk” reaction, I witnessed a far larger group organized by these individuals three weeks ago calmly go down without a hitch and I watched the professionalism of this group. There was no threat to public safety. I stand by my statement–there was no good reason to lock down the building.

  27. Doug Paul Davis

    It was hardly a “knee jerk” reaction, I witnessed a far larger group organized by these individuals three weeks ago calmly go down without a hitch and I watched the professionalism of this group. There was no threat to public safety. I stand by my statement–there was no good reason to lock down the building.

  28. Doug Paul Davis

    It was hardly a “knee jerk” reaction, I witnessed a far larger group organized by these individuals three weeks ago calmly go down without a hitch and I watched the professionalism of this group. There was no threat to public safety. I stand by my statement–there was no good reason to lock down the building.

  29. Anonymous

    As an employee who worked in the building thru the duration today, I was glad it was locked down, for my safety and that of my coworkers, our visitors, and our guests. The protestors’ noise was deafening and scary as they pounded on our office windows, and extremely disruptive, and it created anxiety among the workers in the building. They certainly did not endear themselves to us. The police presence and the work of the various safety coordinators calmed us and kept order so that we could attempt to do our work amidst the extreme disruption. This was not a calm or peaceful protest as I remember the protests at Mrak from the days when Apartheid was being protested, a long and peaceful protest that ultimately led to divestment. Note to Vicente: Dear Vicente, your logic does not make sense to me. If the University has a long history of mistreatment of employees (which I disagree with as a long time employee), then WHY would the protesters be demanding to become UC employees? PS I got my job at UCD the normal way, I filled out an application and was interviewed.

  30. Anonymous

    As an employee who worked in the building thru the duration today, I was glad it was locked down, for my safety and that of my coworkers, our visitors, and our guests. The protestors’ noise was deafening and scary as they pounded on our office windows, and extremely disruptive, and it created anxiety among the workers in the building. They certainly did not endear themselves to us. The police presence and the work of the various safety coordinators calmed us and kept order so that we could attempt to do our work amidst the extreme disruption. This was not a calm or peaceful protest as I remember the protests at Mrak from the days when Apartheid was being protested, a long and peaceful protest that ultimately led to divestment. Note to Vicente: Dear Vicente, your logic does not make sense to me. If the University has a long history of mistreatment of employees (which I disagree with as a long time employee), then WHY would the protesters be demanding to become UC employees? PS I got my job at UCD the normal way, I filled out an application and was interviewed.

  31. Anonymous

    As an employee who worked in the building thru the duration today, I was glad it was locked down, for my safety and that of my coworkers, our visitors, and our guests. The protestors’ noise was deafening and scary as they pounded on our office windows, and extremely disruptive, and it created anxiety among the workers in the building. They certainly did not endear themselves to us. The police presence and the work of the various safety coordinators calmed us and kept order so that we could attempt to do our work amidst the extreme disruption. This was not a calm or peaceful protest as I remember the protests at Mrak from the days when Apartheid was being protested, a long and peaceful protest that ultimately led to divestment. Note to Vicente: Dear Vicente, your logic does not make sense to me. If the University has a long history of mistreatment of employees (which I disagree with as a long time employee), then WHY would the protesters be demanding to become UC employees? PS I got my job at UCD the normal way, I filled out an application and was interviewed.

  32. Anonymous

    As an employee who worked in the building thru the duration today, I was glad it was locked down, for my safety and that of my coworkers, our visitors, and our guests. The protestors’ noise was deafening and scary as they pounded on our office windows, and extremely disruptive, and it created anxiety among the workers in the building. They certainly did not endear themselves to us. The police presence and the work of the various safety coordinators calmed us and kept order so that we could attempt to do our work amidst the extreme disruption. This was not a calm or peaceful protest as I remember the protests at Mrak from the days when Apartheid was being protested, a long and peaceful protest that ultimately led to divestment. Note to Vicente: Dear Vicente, your logic does not make sense to me. If the University has a long history of mistreatment of employees (which I disagree with as a long time employee), then WHY would the protesters be demanding to become UC employees? PS I got my job at UCD the normal way, I filled out an application and was interviewed.

  33. sodexho caterer

    I work for Sodexho and I promise to spit on every piece of dinner ingredients that is going to every single event, so be ware when you go to sodexho to eat something, there is mad people working there so your meal may be infected with alien substanbces brought from outside the empire. Peace.
    Sodexho Caterer.

  34. sodexho caterer

    I work for Sodexho and I promise to spit on every piece of dinner ingredients that is going to every single event, so be ware when you go to sodexho to eat something, there is mad people working there so your meal may be infected with alien substanbces brought from outside the empire. Peace.
    Sodexho Caterer.

  35. sodexho caterer

    I work for Sodexho and I promise to spit on every piece of dinner ingredients that is going to every single event, so be ware when you go to sodexho to eat something, there is mad people working there so your meal may be infected with alien substanbces brought from outside the empire. Peace.
    Sodexho Caterer.

  36. sodexho caterer

    I work for Sodexho and I promise to spit on every piece of dinner ingredients that is going to every single event, so be ware when you go to sodexho to eat something, there is mad people working there so your meal may be infected with alien substanbces brought from outside the empire. Peace.
    Sodexho Caterer.

  37. Anonymous

    Dear spitter (and I tend to think this is a faked up comment to make the sodexho workers look bad), but if you are real, how does spitting in the food help your cause? How does possibly sickening innocent people create the desired outcome? (you’re making your cause look bad) I will pray for you to learn the true meaning of peace and how we will attain it on this planet. I can tell you, it is not by spitting in anyone’s food, which is an act of violence, no matter how righteously angry you may feel.

  38. Anonymous

    Dear spitter (and I tend to think this is a faked up comment to make the sodexho workers look bad), but if you are real, how does spitting in the food help your cause? How does possibly sickening innocent people create the desired outcome? (you’re making your cause look bad) I will pray for you to learn the true meaning of peace and how we will attain it on this planet. I can tell you, it is not by spitting in anyone’s food, which is an act of violence, no matter how righteously angry you may feel.

  39. Anonymous

    Dear spitter (and I tend to think this is a faked up comment to make the sodexho workers look bad), but if you are real, how does spitting in the food help your cause? How does possibly sickening innocent people create the desired outcome? (you’re making your cause look bad) I will pray for you to learn the true meaning of peace and how we will attain it on this planet. I can tell you, it is not by spitting in anyone’s food, which is an act of violence, no matter how righteously angry you may feel.

  40. Anonymous

    Dear spitter (and I tend to think this is a faked up comment to make the sodexho workers look bad), but if you are real, how does spitting in the food help your cause? How does possibly sickening innocent people create the desired outcome? (you’re making your cause look bad) I will pray for you to learn the true meaning of peace and how we will attain it on this planet. I can tell you, it is not by spitting in anyone’s food, which is an act of violence, no matter how righteously angry you may feel.

  41. darnell

    I was at Mrak Hall today at around 3:30 and only remnants of the rally were still going on. I sympathize with the Sodexho workers and hope something was gained by the demonstration today. I believe the intentions of the people outside were totally benign but the people inside were justifiably concerned. Many were prevented from completing their work and had to leave early. That may sound great to some of you, but there is actual work being done there. If the disruption was the intention of the demonstrators then they were successful. I am not sure if any sympathy for the workers was ascertained, however.

    As for the “spitter”, I too believe you are just trying to discredit the people that are trying to better their lot in life by the demonstration. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you are a legitimate worker than you are simply despicable and you will, no doubt, get you just desserts. Pun intended.

  42. darnell

    I was at Mrak Hall today at around 3:30 and only remnants of the rally were still going on. I sympathize with the Sodexho workers and hope something was gained by the demonstration today. I believe the intentions of the people outside were totally benign but the people inside were justifiably concerned. Many were prevented from completing their work and had to leave early. That may sound great to some of you, but there is actual work being done there. If the disruption was the intention of the demonstrators then they were successful. I am not sure if any sympathy for the workers was ascertained, however.

    As for the “spitter”, I too believe you are just trying to discredit the people that are trying to better their lot in life by the demonstration. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you are a legitimate worker than you are simply despicable and you will, no doubt, get you just desserts. Pun intended.

  43. darnell

    I was at Mrak Hall today at around 3:30 and only remnants of the rally were still going on. I sympathize with the Sodexho workers and hope something was gained by the demonstration today. I believe the intentions of the people outside were totally benign but the people inside were justifiably concerned. Many were prevented from completing their work and had to leave early. That may sound great to some of you, but there is actual work being done there. If the disruption was the intention of the demonstrators then they were successful. I am not sure if any sympathy for the workers was ascertained, however.

    As for the “spitter”, I too believe you are just trying to discredit the people that are trying to better their lot in life by the demonstration. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you are a legitimate worker than you are simply despicable and you will, no doubt, get you just desserts. Pun intended.

  44. darnell

    I was at Mrak Hall today at around 3:30 and only remnants of the rally were still going on. I sympathize with the Sodexho workers and hope something was gained by the demonstration today. I believe the intentions of the people outside were totally benign but the people inside were justifiably concerned. Many were prevented from completing their work and had to leave early. That may sound great to some of you, but there is actual work being done there. If the disruption was the intention of the demonstrators then they were successful. I am not sure if any sympathy for the workers was ascertained, however.

    As for the “spitter”, I too believe you are just trying to discredit the people that are trying to better their lot in life by the demonstration. You should be ashamed of yourself. If you are a legitimate worker than you are simply despicable and you will, no doubt, get you just desserts. Pun intended.

  45. 無名 - wu ming

    that’s a good sign, lois getting involved. the only times i’ve seen the university budge from their standard policy of stiffing workers was after sustained strikes and/or pressure from elected officials.

    anyone afraid of student protesters here at UCD has lost touch with reality completely. i’ve marched with the food service workers before, and they’re incredibly good natured (and surprisingly organized for a student group). strong language and the occasional chant are about as fired up as they’ll get. don’t believe the hype.

    i suspect the food service workers will win this thing, in the end. these guys are exceptionally well organized; this is clearly not going to dry up and blow away for vanderhoef.

    the administration has not got a leg to stand on, after the massive bonuses they paid themselves over the past several years. the 2008 primary elections will also tend to draw the politicians in (i saw mariko yamada at an earlier march, wasn’t there today), which will put more pressure on vanderhoef to settle.

  46. 無名 - wu ming

    that’s a good sign, lois getting involved. the only times i’ve seen the university budge from their standard policy of stiffing workers was after sustained strikes and/or pressure from elected officials.

    anyone afraid of student protesters here at UCD has lost touch with reality completely. i’ve marched with the food service workers before, and they’re incredibly good natured (and surprisingly organized for a student group). strong language and the occasional chant are about as fired up as they’ll get. don’t believe the hype.

    i suspect the food service workers will win this thing, in the end. these guys are exceptionally well organized; this is clearly not going to dry up and blow away for vanderhoef.

    the administration has not got a leg to stand on, after the massive bonuses they paid themselves over the past several years. the 2008 primary elections will also tend to draw the politicians in (i saw mariko yamada at an earlier march, wasn’t there today), which will put more pressure on vanderhoef to settle.

  47. 無名 - wu ming

    that’s a good sign, lois getting involved. the only times i’ve seen the university budge from their standard policy of stiffing workers was after sustained strikes and/or pressure from elected officials.

    anyone afraid of student protesters here at UCD has lost touch with reality completely. i’ve marched with the food service workers before, and they’re incredibly good natured (and surprisingly organized for a student group). strong language and the occasional chant are about as fired up as they’ll get. don’t believe the hype.

    i suspect the food service workers will win this thing, in the end. these guys are exceptionally well organized; this is clearly not going to dry up and blow away for vanderhoef.

    the administration has not got a leg to stand on, after the massive bonuses they paid themselves over the past several years. the 2008 primary elections will also tend to draw the politicians in (i saw mariko yamada at an earlier march, wasn’t there today), which will put more pressure on vanderhoef to settle.

  48. 無名 - wu ming

    that’s a good sign, lois getting involved. the only times i’ve seen the university budge from their standard policy of stiffing workers was after sustained strikes and/or pressure from elected officials.

    anyone afraid of student protesters here at UCD has lost touch with reality completely. i’ve marched with the food service workers before, and they’re incredibly good natured (and surprisingly organized for a student group). strong language and the occasional chant are about as fired up as they’ll get. don’t believe the hype.

    i suspect the food service workers will win this thing, in the end. these guys are exceptionally well organized; this is clearly not going to dry up and blow away for vanderhoef.

    the administration has not got a leg to stand on, after the massive bonuses they paid themselves over the past several years. the 2008 primary elections will also tend to draw the politicians in (i saw mariko yamada at an earlier march, wasn’t there today), which will put more pressure on vanderhoef to settle.

  49. Anonymous

    Of all the causes, these people think they’re going to start a proletarian uprising over whether someone earns $10 an hour or $12 an hour? sheesh.

    And btw, I don’t think anyone at UC Davis is paying $5 a month for health insurance.

  50. Anonymous

    Of all the causes, these people think they’re going to start a proletarian uprising over whether someone earns $10 an hour or $12 an hour? sheesh.

    And btw, I don’t think anyone at UC Davis is paying $5 a month for health insurance.

  51. Anonymous

    Of all the causes, these people think they’re going to start a proletarian uprising over whether someone earns $10 an hour or $12 an hour? sheesh.

    And btw, I don’t think anyone at UC Davis is paying $5 a month for health insurance.

  52. Anonymous

    Of all the causes, these people think they’re going to start a proletarian uprising over whether someone earns $10 an hour or $12 an hour? sheesh.

    And btw, I don’t think anyone at UC Davis is paying $5 a month for health insurance.

  53. Sodexho caterer

    I am the sodexho worker, and i certainly don’t undertand all the paranoia after I made that promise. One of the things people can do to get involved in just causes is just stop buying anything from immoral companies like sodexho. I don’t know if i am going to spit anything at all but hopefully you will stop buying stuff from this multinational, so they know you support. I wont promise i wont spit because sometimes i am ashamed of how many dishes and food they waste just to make the elite class happy, and makes me angry. In Catering, We serve them so they can be happy when they sign their millionaire contracts with MY university. I am not trying to discredit anybody, i am just trying to let you know that when injustices escalate…..things get bad and polarized. In some countries people burn themselves to get their voices heard, in others they boycott. A spit is just a symbol of how this issue affects everybody who eats from sodexho,
    and thus funds them. Think of where these food is coming from and don’t think just in “THE SPIT” you paranoics.
    Sodexho Caterer down with this cause and all other causes where injustice is happenning. PEACE

  54. Sodexho caterer

    I am the sodexho worker, and i certainly don’t undertand all the paranoia after I made that promise. One of the things people can do to get involved in just causes is just stop buying anything from immoral companies like sodexho. I don’t know if i am going to spit anything at all but hopefully you will stop buying stuff from this multinational, so they know you support. I wont promise i wont spit because sometimes i am ashamed of how many dishes and food they waste just to make the elite class happy, and makes me angry. In Catering, We serve them so they can be happy when they sign their millionaire contracts with MY university. I am not trying to discredit anybody, i am just trying to let you know that when injustices escalate…..things get bad and polarized. In some countries people burn themselves to get their voices heard, in others they boycott. A spit is just a symbol of how this issue affects everybody who eats from sodexho,
    and thus funds them. Think of where these food is coming from and don’t think just in “THE SPIT” you paranoics.
    Sodexho Caterer down with this cause and all other causes where injustice is happenning. PEACE

  55. Sodexho caterer

    I am the sodexho worker, and i certainly don’t undertand all the paranoia after I made that promise. One of the things people can do to get involved in just causes is just stop buying anything from immoral companies like sodexho. I don’t know if i am going to spit anything at all but hopefully you will stop buying stuff from this multinational, so they know you support. I wont promise i wont spit because sometimes i am ashamed of how many dishes and food they waste just to make the elite class happy, and makes me angry. In Catering, We serve them so they can be happy when they sign their millionaire contracts with MY university. I am not trying to discredit anybody, i am just trying to let you know that when injustices escalate…..things get bad and polarized. In some countries people burn themselves to get their voices heard, in others they boycott. A spit is just a symbol of how this issue affects everybody who eats from sodexho,
    and thus funds them. Think of where these food is coming from and don’t think just in “THE SPIT” you paranoics.
    Sodexho Caterer down with this cause and all other causes where injustice is happenning. PEACE

  56. Sodexho caterer

    I am the sodexho worker, and i certainly don’t undertand all the paranoia after I made that promise. One of the things people can do to get involved in just causes is just stop buying anything from immoral companies like sodexho. I don’t know if i am going to spit anything at all but hopefully you will stop buying stuff from this multinational, so they know you support. I wont promise i wont spit because sometimes i am ashamed of how many dishes and food they waste just to make the elite class happy, and makes me angry. In Catering, We serve them so they can be happy when they sign their millionaire contracts with MY university. I am not trying to discredit anybody, i am just trying to let you know that when injustices escalate…..things get bad and polarized. In some countries people burn themselves to get their voices heard, in others they boycott. A spit is just a symbol of how this issue affects everybody who eats from sodexho,
    and thus funds them. Think of where these food is coming from and don’t think just in “THE SPIT” you paranoics.
    Sodexho Caterer down with this cause and all other causes where injustice is happenning. PEACE

  57. Don Shor

    “One of the workers told me she was paying over $100 for her health care package where a UC Davis employed worker would only pay about 5% of that.”
    Doug, could you get some real information about this? The health care issue seems to be the real issue, since the pay differential isn’t that significant. It’s difficult to take these protests seriously, and the rhetoric seems wildly out of proportion to the issue, if it’s just about $1.65/hour.

  58. Don Shor

    “One of the workers told me she was paying over $100 for her health care package where a UC Davis employed worker would only pay about 5% of that.”
    Doug, could you get some real information about this? The health care issue seems to be the real issue, since the pay differential isn’t that significant. It’s difficult to take these protests seriously, and the rhetoric seems wildly out of proportion to the issue, if it’s just about $1.65/hour.

  59. Don Shor

    “One of the workers told me she was paying over $100 for her health care package where a UC Davis employed worker would only pay about 5% of that.”
    Doug, could you get some real information about this? The health care issue seems to be the real issue, since the pay differential isn’t that significant. It’s difficult to take these protests seriously, and the rhetoric seems wildly out of proportion to the issue, if it’s just about $1.65/hour.

  60. Don Shor

    “One of the workers told me she was paying over $100 for her health care package where a UC Davis employed worker would only pay about 5% of that.”
    Doug, could you get some real information about this? The health care issue seems to be the real issue, since the pay differential isn’t that significant. It’s difficult to take these protests seriously, and the rhetoric seems wildly out of proportion to the issue, if it’s just about $1.65/hour.

  61. Doug Paul Davis

    Don:

    This is from the fact sheet, there are two sources for this information one was a statement of 2007 health insurance rates mailed to employees by Sodexho and the other is from the UCOP “at your service” medical plan cost page:

    http://atyourservice.ucop.edu/employees/health/medical/cost.html

    “A fulltime outsourced UC Davis Cook with a family pays $81.54 per week for health, ental and vision family coverage. With other plan option the WEEKLY costs for family coverage can exceed $1000 per week.”

    “A direct UC Davis employed Cook can pay 95% less per week for health, dental and vision family coverage.”

    So first of all, that is 100 per week they are paying.

    It’s not $2 an hour that they are fighting for, it’s $400 a month in health coverage and the $2 an hour. The combination of those two are over $700 per month from a salary that gives people a gross of $1600. That’s a huge amount of money you are talking about. That is not just a few pennies as one of the people incorrectly implied.

    Don: I don’t know your answer to your other question but it doesn’t seem unreasonable to me that they would rather work directly for the university rather than be contracted labor.

  62. Doug Paul Davis

    Don:

    This is from the fact sheet, there are two sources for this information one was a statement of 2007 health insurance rates mailed to employees by Sodexho and the other is from the UCOP “at your service” medical plan cost page:

    http://atyourservice.ucop.edu/employees/health/medical/cost.html

    “A fulltime outsourced UC Davis Cook with a family pays $81.54 per week for health, ental and vision family coverage. With other plan option the WEEKLY costs for family coverage can exceed $1000 per week.”

    “A direct UC Davis employed Cook can pay 95% less per week for health, dental and vision family coverage.”

    So first of all, that is 100 per week they are paying.

    It’s not $2 an hour that they are fighting for, it’s $400 a month in health coverage and the $2 an hour. The combination of those two are over $700 per month from a salary that gives people a gross of $1600. That’s a huge amount of money you are talking about. That is not just a few pennies as one of the people incorrectly implied.

    Don: I don’t know your answer to your other question but it doesn’t seem unreasonable to me that they would rather work directly for the university rather than be contracted labor.

  63. Doug Paul Davis

    Don:

    This is from the fact sheet, there are two sources for this information one was a statement of 2007 health insurance rates mailed to employees by Sodexho and the other is from the UCOP “at your service” medical plan cost page:

    http://atyourservice.ucop.edu/employees/health/medical/cost.html

    “A fulltime outsourced UC Davis Cook with a family pays $81.54 per week for health, ental and vision family coverage. With other plan option the WEEKLY costs for family coverage can exceed $1000 per week.”

    “A direct UC Davis employed Cook can pay 95% less per week for health, dental and vision family coverage.”

    So first of all, that is 100 per week they are paying.

    It’s not $2 an hour that they are fighting for, it’s $400 a month in health coverage and the $2 an hour. The combination of those two are over $700 per month from a salary that gives people a gross of $1600. That’s a huge amount of money you are talking about. That is not just a few pennies as one of the people incorrectly implied.

    Don: I don’t know your answer to your other question but it doesn’t seem unreasonable to me that they would rather work directly for the university rather than be contracted labor.

  64. Doug Paul Davis

    Don:

    This is from the fact sheet, there are two sources for this information one was a statement of 2007 health insurance rates mailed to employees by Sodexho and the other is from the UCOP “at your service” medical plan cost page:

    http://atyourservice.ucop.edu/employees/health/medical/cost.html

    “A fulltime outsourced UC Davis Cook with a family pays $81.54 per week for health, ental and vision family coverage. With other plan option the WEEKLY costs for family coverage can exceed $1000 per week.”

    “A direct UC Davis employed Cook can pay 95% less per week for health, dental and vision family coverage.”

    So first of all, that is 100 per week they are paying.

    It’s not $2 an hour that they are fighting for, it’s $400 a month in health coverage and the $2 an hour. The combination of those two are over $700 per month from a salary that gives people a gross of $1600. That’s a huge amount of money you are talking about. That is not just a few pennies as one of the people incorrectly implied.

    Don: I don’t know your answer to your other question but it doesn’t seem unreasonable to me that they would rather work directly for the university rather than be contracted labor.

  65. Anonymous

    The UC administrators – especially in Davis – have been very creative in their efforts to circumvent unions. (“Lease-back” on construction projects is a prime example). And for those who would argue against the modest increases in costs, I’d suggest you start your education here.

    All the workers ask for is little *fairness* in the workplace. Not that hard to understand, even for a very-well-paid university administrator.

  66. Anonymous

    The UC administrators – especially in Davis – have been very creative in their efforts to circumvent unions. (“Lease-back” on construction projects is a prime example). And for those who would argue against the modest increases in costs, I’d suggest you start your education here.

    All the workers ask for is little *fairness* in the workplace. Not that hard to understand, even for a very-well-paid university administrator.

  67. Anonymous

    The UC administrators – especially in Davis – have been very creative in their efforts to circumvent unions. (“Lease-back” on construction projects is a prime example). And for those who would argue against the modest increases in costs, I’d suggest you start your education here.

    All the workers ask for is little *fairness* in the workplace. Not that hard to understand, even for a very-well-paid university administrator.

  68. Anonymous

    The UC administrators – especially in Davis – have been very creative in their efforts to circumvent unions. (“Lease-back” on construction projects is a prime example). And for those who would argue against the modest increases in costs, I’d suggest you start your education here.

    All the workers ask for is little *fairness* in the workplace. Not that hard to understand, even for a very-well-paid university administrator.

  69. 無名 - wu ming

    sodexho is a notorious union-buster, don. those who try to organize tend to find themselves out of a job. university rules prohibit such response, which is one reason the workers are trying to get that university worker status.

  70. 無名 - wu ming

    sodexho is a notorious union-buster, don. those who try to organize tend to find themselves out of a job. university rules prohibit such response, which is one reason the workers are trying to get that university worker status.

  71. 無名 - wu ming

    sodexho is a notorious union-buster, don. those who try to organize tend to find themselves out of a job. university rules prohibit such response, which is one reason the workers are trying to get that university worker status.

  72. 無名 - wu ming

    sodexho is a notorious union-buster, don. those who try to organize tend to find themselves out of a job. university rules prohibit such response, which is one reason the workers are trying to get that university worker status.

  73. Don Shor

    Wow–a quick Google search of “Sodexho union buster” certainly turns up a lot of evidence to corroborate that, wu-ming!

    Evidently unions do sometimes succeed though:

    http://otterrealm.net/Sodexho.htm
    “Sodexho Union
    Rose Fellom-Morris, Staff Reporter

    CSU Monterey Bay’s food service employees recently joined Local 483 UNITE HERE, a union for hotel and restaurant employees.
    The Maryland based group, Sodexho USA, CSUMB’s contracted food service, has recognized the union and will begin contract bargaining in May. Local 483 was founded in 1937 and represents 1,700 Monterey Bay area hospitality workers at hotels, restaurants, cafeterias, and golf courses. Most of the original members of Local 483, over a half century ago during the Great Depression, were employees of restaurants and bars around the Old Fisherman’s Wharf and Cannery Row areas.
    According to unitehere483.org, “ Local 483 workers now earn 20 to 50 percent more than the average non-union Monterey Bay hospitality worker, have fully-paid health insurance for themselves and their families….”

    Maybe the Davis workers should affiliate with one of the local hotel/restaurant unions.

    Thanks to anonymous for the link on minimum wage issues. There’s a lot of info there. I’ve bookmarked it for further reading.

    Don

  74. Don Shor

    Wow–a quick Google search of “Sodexho union buster” certainly turns up a lot of evidence to corroborate that, wu-ming!

    Evidently unions do sometimes succeed though:

    http://otterrealm.net/Sodexho.htm
    “Sodexho Union
    Rose Fellom-Morris, Staff Reporter

    CSU Monterey Bay’s food service employees recently joined Local 483 UNITE HERE, a union for hotel and restaurant employees.
    The Maryland based group, Sodexho USA, CSUMB’s contracted food service, has recognized the union and will begin contract bargaining in May. Local 483 was founded in 1937 and represents 1,700 Monterey Bay area hospitality workers at hotels, restaurants, cafeterias, and golf courses. Most of the original members of Local 483, over a half century ago during the Great Depression, were employees of restaurants and bars around the Old Fisherman’s Wharf and Cannery Row areas.
    According to unitehere483.org, “ Local 483 workers now earn 20 to 50 percent more than the average non-union Monterey Bay hospitality worker, have fully-paid health insurance for themselves and their families….”

    Maybe the Davis workers should affiliate with one of the local hotel/restaurant unions.

    Thanks to anonymous for the link on minimum wage issues. There’s a lot of info there. I’ve bookmarked it for further reading.

    Don

  75. Don Shor

    Wow–a quick Google search of “Sodexho union buster” certainly turns up a lot of evidence to corroborate that, wu-ming!

    Evidently unions do sometimes succeed though:

    http://otterrealm.net/Sodexho.htm
    “Sodexho Union
    Rose Fellom-Morris, Staff Reporter

    CSU Monterey Bay’s food service employees recently joined Local 483 UNITE HERE, a union for hotel and restaurant employees.
    The Maryland based group, Sodexho USA, CSUMB’s contracted food service, has recognized the union and will begin contract bargaining in May. Local 483 was founded in 1937 and represents 1,700 Monterey Bay area hospitality workers at hotels, restaurants, cafeterias, and golf courses. Most of the original members of Local 483, over a half century ago during the Great Depression, were employees of restaurants and bars around the Old Fisherman’s Wharf and Cannery Row areas.
    According to unitehere483.org, “ Local 483 workers now earn 20 to 50 percent more than the average non-union Monterey Bay hospitality worker, have fully-paid health insurance for themselves and their families….”

    Maybe the Davis workers should affiliate with one of the local hotel/restaurant unions.

    Thanks to anonymous for the link on minimum wage issues. There’s a lot of info there. I’ve bookmarked it for further reading.

    Don

  76. Don Shor

    Wow–a quick Google search of “Sodexho union buster” certainly turns up a lot of evidence to corroborate that, wu-ming!

    Evidently unions do sometimes succeed though:

    http://otterrealm.net/Sodexho.htm
    “Sodexho Union
    Rose Fellom-Morris, Staff Reporter

    CSU Monterey Bay’s food service employees recently joined Local 483 UNITE HERE, a union for hotel and restaurant employees.
    The Maryland based group, Sodexho USA, CSUMB’s contracted food service, has recognized the union and will begin contract bargaining in May. Local 483 was founded in 1937 and represents 1,700 Monterey Bay area hospitality workers at hotels, restaurants, cafeterias, and golf courses. Most of the original members of Local 483, over a half century ago during the Great Depression, were employees of restaurants and bars around the Old Fisherman’s Wharf and Cannery Row areas.
    According to unitehere483.org, “ Local 483 workers now earn 20 to 50 percent more than the average non-union Monterey Bay hospitality worker, have fully-paid health insurance for themselves and their families….”

    Maybe the Davis workers should affiliate with one of the local hotel/restaurant unions.

    Thanks to anonymous for the link on minimum wage issues. There’s a lot of info there. I’ve bookmarked it for further reading.

    Don

  77. Anonymous

    I had three students who needed to go to the College of Ag Dean’s office – one had a previously made appointment. None were allowed in the building, even though they directly requested the police officers on site to pass. None of the students reported feeling threatened by the protesters. I suspect that the atmosphere of fear was created by the presence of law enforcement and the managers inside the building who limited the free movement of staff (i.e., escorts to the bathroom). The many staff were gone during lunch during the protest and managed to make it back inside the building OK without being harmed in any way. The protest may have been annoying and loud, but I don’t believe for an instant that it was something to be afraid of.

  78. Anonymous

    I had three students who needed to go to the College of Ag Dean’s office – one had a previously made appointment. None were allowed in the building, even though they directly requested the police officers on site to pass. None of the students reported feeling threatened by the protesters. I suspect that the atmosphere of fear was created by the presence of law enforcement and the managers inside the building who limited the free movement of staff (i.e., escorts to the bathroom). The many staff were gone during lunch during the protest and managed to make it back inside the building OK without being harmed in any way. The protest may have been annoying and loud, but I don’t believe for an instant that it was something to be afraid of.

  79. Anonymous

    I had three students who needed to go to the College of Ag Dean’s office – one had a previously made appointment. None were allowed in the building, even though they directly requested the police officers on site to pass. None of the students reported feeling threatened by the protesters. I suspect that the atmosphere of fear was created by the presence of law enforcement and the managers inside the building who limited the free movement of staff (i.e., escorts to the bathroom). The many staff were gone during lunch during the protest and managed to make it back inside the building OK without being harmed in any way. The protest may have been annoying and loud, but I don’t believe for an instant that it was something to be afraid of.

  80. Anonymous

    I had three students who needed to go to the College of Ag Dean’s office – one had a previously made appointment. None were allowed in the building, even though they directly requested the police officers on site to pass. None of the students reported feeling threatened by the protesters. I suspect that the atmosphere of fear was created by the presence of law enforcement and the managers inside the building who limited the free movement of staff (i.e., escorts to the bathroom). The many staff were gone during lunch during the protest and managed to make it back inside the building OK without being harmed in any way. The protest may have been annoying and loud, but I don’t believe for an instant that it was something to be afraid of.

  81. Anonymous

    Oh no, nothing to be afraid of, apart from the yelling and hammering on the windows, not to mention the disgusting person here who said he would spit in the food.

    The police handled the situation professionally and with great restraint. If they had started letting people in “who just had an appointment” there would have been protestors all over the building in a flash.

  82. Anonymous

    Oh no, nothing to be afraid of, apart from the yelling and hammering on the windows, not to mention the disgusting person here who said he would spit in the food.

    The police handled the situation professionally and with great restraint. If they had started letting people in “who just had an appointment” there would have been protestors all over the building in a flash.

  83. Anonymous

    Oh no, nothing to be afraid of, apart from the yelling and hammering on the windows, not to mention the disgusting person here who said he would spit in the food.

    The police handled the situation professionally and with great restraint. If they had started letting people in “who just had an appointment” there would have been protestors all over the building in a flash.

  84. Anonymous

    Oh no, nothing to be afraid of, apart from the yelling and hammering on the windows, not to mention the disgusting person here who said he would spit in the food.

    The police handled the situation professionally and with great restraint. If they had started letting people in “who just had an appointment” there would have been protestors all over the building in a flash.

  85. Anonymous

    Many staff felt extremely anxious and afraid, and it was not because of the police presence, they made us feel safer. These protestors used violent tactics when they CHAINED the doors to the building shut FROM THE OUTSIDE, and put a stick thru the handles. This is a documented fact. If there had been an emergency and we needed to evacuate, it would have caused a huge panic and danger. I have lost any sympathy I might have had for these threatening people and their violent tactics.

  86. Anonymous

    Many staff felt extremely anxious and afraid, and it was not because of the police presence, they made us feel safer. These protestors used violent tactics when they CHAINED the doors to the building shut FROM THE OUTSIDE, and put a stick thru the handles. This is a documented fact. If there had been an emergency and we needed to evacuate, it would have caused a huge panic and danger. I have lost any sympathy I might have had for these threatening people and their violent tactics.

  87. Anonymous

    Many staff felt extremely anxious and afraid, and it was not because of the police presence, they made us feel safer. These protestors used violent tactics when they CHAINED the doors to the building shut FROM THE OUTSIDE, and put a stick thru the handles. This is a documented fact. If there had been an emergency and we needed to evacuate, it would have caused a huge panic and danger. I have lost any sympathy I might have had for these threatening people and their violent tactics.

  88. Anonymous

    Many staff felt extremely anxious and afraid, and it was not because of the police presence, they made us feel safer. These protestors used violent tactics when they CHAINED the doors to the building shut FROM THE OUTSIDE, and put a stick thru the handles. This is a documented fact. If there had been an emergency and we needed to evacuate, it would have caused a huge panic and danger. I have lost any sympathy I might have had for these threatening people and their violent tactics.

  89. Doug Paul Davis

    I did not see a lot of pounding on the glass, now I wasn’t on the south side of the building and it may have happened there, but I did not see it all on the north side. I also did not see any protesters going after after individuals. I was in their midst for quite some time and did not see any incidents. Stuff may have happened after I left that I did not see, but I really did not see anything that was a cause for alarm.

  90. Doug Paul Davis

    I did not see a lot of pounding on the glass, now I wasn’t on the south side of the building and it may have happened there, but I did not see it all on the north side. I also did not see any protesters going after after individuals. I was in their midst for quite some time and did not see any incidents. Stuff may have happened after I left that I did not see, but I really did not see anything that was a cause for alarm.

  91. Doug Paul Davis

    I did not see a lot of pounding on the glass, now I wasn’t on the south side of the building and it may have happened there, but I did not see it all on the north side. I also did not see any protesters going after after individuals. I was in their midst for quite some time and did not see any incidents. Stuff may have happened after I left that I did not see, but I really did not see anything that was a cause for alarm.

  92. Doug Paul Davis

    I did not see a lot of pounding on the glass, now I wasn’t on the south side of the building and it may have happened there, but I did not see it all on the north side. I also did not see any protesters going after after individuals. I was in their midst for quite some time and did not see any incidents. Stuff may have happened after I left that I did not see, but I really did not see anything that was a cause for alarm.

  93. Richard

    anonymous: get used to it, and stop trembling

    anyone who has lived in a decent sized city has encountered this kind of protest, and didn’t have a panic attack

    –Richard Estes

  94. Richard

    anonymous: get used to it, and stop trembling

    anyone who has lived in a decent sized city has encountered this kind of protest, and didn’t have a panic attack

    –Richard Estes

  95. Richard

    anonymous: get used to it, and stop trembling

    anyone who has lived in a decent sized city has encountered this kind of protest, and didn’t have a panic attack

    –Richard Estes

  96. Richard

    anonymous: get used to it, and stop trembling

    anyone who has lived in a decent sized city has encountered this kind of protest, and didn’t have a panic attack

    –Richard Estes

  97. Anonymous

    The pounding with the signs against the glass was loud and relentless on BOTH the North and South sides of the building, on both the Main doors, and on individuals’ windows and it went on for quite some time, maybe not when you were there DPD. You can ask anyone who was working inside on the first floor in the Reg office or the Undergaduate Admissions office and they will describe how loud and invasive it was. No one is having a panic attack but no one should be expected to have to endure that kind of working condition. Richard I hope that you are not a supervisor or a manager, because your total lack of empathy for others is well, total.

  98. Anonymous

    The pounding with the signs against the glass was loud and relentless on BOTH the North and South sides of the building, on both the Main doors, and on individuals’ windows and it went on for quite some time, maybe not when you were there DPD. You can ask anyone who was working inside on the first floor in the Reg office or the Undergaduate Admissions office and they will describe how loud and invasive it was. No one is having a panic attack but no one should be expected to have to endure that kind of working condition. Richard I hope that you are not a supervisor or a manager, because your total lack of empathy for others is well, total.

  99. Anonymous

    The pounding with the signs against the glass was loud and relentless on BOTH the North and South sides of the building, on both the Main doors, and on individuals’ windows and it went on for quite some time, maybe not when you were there DPD. You can ask anyone who was working inside on the first floor in the Reg office or the Undergaduate Admissions office and they will describe how loud and invasive it was. No one is having a panic attack but no one should be expected to have to endure that kind of working condition. Richard I hope that you are not a supervisor or a manager, because your total lack of empathy for others is well, total.

  100. Anonymous

    The pounding with the signs against the glass was loud and relentless on BOTH the North and South sides of the building, on both the Main doors, and on individuals’ windows and it went on for quite some time, maybe not when you were there DPD. You can ask anyone who was working inside on the first floor in the Reg office or the Undergaduate Admissions office and they will describe how loud and invasive it was. No one is having a panic attack but no one should be expected to have to endure that kind of working condition. Richard I hope that you are not a supervisor or a manager, because your total lack of empathy for others is well, total.

  101. Richard

    and, what about the SODEXHO employee working conditions???

    no one should have to endure them, either, but you say that you’ve lost any empathy that you may have had for them

    of course, quite tellingly, you don’t say that you actually had it, and you’ve been very careful to avoid expressing any support for their demands

    I’m sure that your superiors at Mrak appreciate it

    fact is, these kinds of protests are common, they aren’t dangerous, but they do involve some inconvenience for people, such as yourself, who would otherwise like to ignore the situation

    if you are so unhappy with the way that the workers protested, I suggest that you bring it to the attention of the administration who has been so unwillling to address their concerns, instead of implicitly supporting them by complaining about the protest tactics of the SODEXHO workers

    because, if the administration treated them the way other UC campuses do, you wouldn’t be so frightened of something that many of the rest of the us have experienced without anywhere near your anxiety level

    and, if you are incapable of doing that, there’s always counseling

    –Richard Estes

  102. Richard

    and, what about the SODEXHO employee working conditions???

    no one should have to endure them, either, but you say that you’ve lost any empathy that you may have had for them

    of course, quite tellingly, you don’t say that you actually had it, and you’ve been very careful to avoid expressing any support for their demands

    I’m sure that your superiors at Mrak appreciate it

    fact is, these kinds of protests are common, they aren’t dangerous, but they do involve some inconvenience for people, such as yourself, who would otherwise like to ignore the situation

    if you are so unhappy with the way that the workers protested, I suggest that you bring it to the attention of the administration who has been so unwillling to address their concerns, instead of implicitly supporting them by complaining about the protest tactics of the SODEXHO workers

    because, if the administration treated them the way other UC campuses do, you wouldn’t be so frightened of something that many of the rest of the us have experienced without anywhere near your anxiety level

    and, if you are incapable of doing that, there’s always counseling

    –Richard Estes

  103. Richard

    and, what about the SODEXHO employee working conditions???

    no one should have to endure them, either, but you say that you’ve lost any empathy that you may have had for them

    of course, quite tellingly, you don’t say that you actually had it, and you’ve been very careful to avoid expressing any support for their demands

    I’m sure that your superiors at Mrak appreciate it

    fact is, these kinds of protests are common, they aren’t dangerous, but they do involve some inconvenience for people, such as yourself, who would otherwise like to ignore the situation

    if you are so unhappy with the way that the workers protested, I suggest that you bring it to the attention of the administration who has been so unwillling to address their concerns, instead of implicitly supporting them by complaining about the protest tactics of the SODEXHO workers

    because, if the administration treated them the way other UC campuses do, you wouldn’t be so frightened of something that many of the rest of the us have experienced without anywhere near your anxiety level

    and, if you are incapable of doing that, there’s always counseling

    –Richard Estes

  104. Richard

    and, what about the SODEXHO employee working conditions???

    no one should have to endure them, either, but you say that you’ve lost any empathy that you may have had for them

    of course, quite tellingly, you don’t say that you actually had it, and you’ve been very careful to avoid expressing any support for their demands

    I’m sure that your superiors at Mrak appreciate it

    fact is, these kinds of protests are common, they aren’t dangerous, but they do involve some inconvenience for people, such as yourself, who would otherwise like to ignore the situation

    if you are so unhappy with the way that the workers protested, I suggest that you bring it to the attention of the administration who has been so unwillling to address their concerns, instead of implicitly supporting them by complaining about the protest tactics of the SODEXHO workers

    because, if the administration treated them the way other UC campuses do, you wouldn’t be so frightened of something that many of the rest of the us have experienced without anywhere near your anxiety level

    and, if you are incapable of doing that, there’s always counseling

    –Richard Estes

  105. darnell

    As I stated in an earlier comment I was at Mrak Hall at around 3:00 the day the demonstration took place and I saw nothing that would have given me cause for concern. I did talk to a neighbor that works on the first floor of Mrak and they were not afraid but just unable to complete their work, but did have the opportunity to go home and finish it after the authorities began allowing people to exit, but not enter, the building.

    I don’t know enough about Sodexho to comment on whether their cause is just. I tend to be initially sympathetic to the plight of the perceived lower income; lower benefit workers and I will research that for my own enlightenment. However, I see a paradox here. If Sodexho has the right to protest at Mrak, doesn’t “anonymous” have the right to protest here on “TPVOD”? Vicious attacks have been levied against him/her for expressing their opinion. I know we have surrendered a lot of rights during the last administration, but I didn’t know the right of being afraid was one of them.

    A protest is not always accompanied with signs, chants, and sirens. If we accept and encourage one why not respect the other?

  106. darnell

    As I stated in an earlier comment I was at Mrak Hall at around 3:00 the day the demonstration took place and I saw nothing that would have given me cause for concern. I did talk to a neighbor that works on the first floor of Mrak and they were not afraid but just unable to complete their work, but did have the opportunity to go home and finish it after the authorities began allowing people to exit, but not enter, the building.

    I don’t know enough about Sodexho to comment on whether their cause is just. I tend to be initially sympathetic to the plight of the perceived lower income; lower benefit workers and I will research that for my own enlightenment. However, I see a paradox here. If Sodexho has the right to protest at Mrak, doesn’t “anonymous” have the right to protest here on “TPVOD”? Vicious attacks have been levied against him/her for expressing their opinion. I know we have surrendered a lot of rights during the last administration, but I didn’t know the right of being afraid was one of them.

    A protest is not always accompanied with signs, chants, and sirens. If we accept and encourage one why not respect the other?

  107. darnell

    As I stated in an earlier comment I was at Mrak Hall at around 3:00 the day the demonstration took place and I saw nothing that would have given me cause for concern. I did talk to a neighbor that works on the first floor of Mrak and they were not afraid but just unable to complete their work, but did have the opportunity to go home and finish it after the authorities began allowing people to exit, but not enter, the building.

    I don’t know enough about Sodexho to comment on whether their cause is just. I tend to be initially sympathetic to the plight of the perceived lower income; lower benefit workers and I will research that for my own enlightenment. However, I see a paradox here. If Sodexho has the right to protest at Mrak, doesn’t “anonymous” have the right to protest here on “TPVOD”? Vicious attacks have been levied against him/her for expressing their opinion. I know we have surrendered a lot of rights during the last administration, but I didn’t know the right of being afraid was one of them.

    A protest is not always accompanied with signs, chants, and sirens. If we accept and encourage one why not respect the other?

  108. darnell

    As I stated in an earlier comment I was at Mrak Hall at around 3:00 the day the demonstration took place and I saw nothing that would have given me cause for concern. I did talk to a neighbor that works on the first floor of Mrak and they were not afraid but just unable to complete their work, but did have the opportunity to go home and finish it after the authorities began allowing people to exit, but not enter, the building.

    I don’t know enough about Sodexho to comment on whether their cause is just. I tend to be initially sympathetic to the plight of the perceived lower income; lower benefit workers and I will research that for my own enlightenment. However, I see a paradox here. If Sodexho has the right to protest at Mrak, doesn’t “anonymous” have the right to protest here on “TPVOD”? Vicious attacks have been levied against him/her for expressing their opinion. I know we have surrendered a lot of rights during the last administration, but I didn’t know the right of being afraid was one of them.

    A protest is not always accompanied with signs, chants, and sirens. If we accept and encourage one why not respect the other?

  109. Anonymous

    Wow Richard, you really don’t get it do you. The chaining of the doors is the same tactic that the Virginia Tech shooter did. It was inexcusable and nothing justifies that tactic in today’s world. People that work in public education these days (and that includes lots of union represented folks)work in a high anxiety atmosphere, even in safe little ol’ Davis. Personally I am reviewing all of the information before coming to any conclusions about what the right solution is, however these tactics do not help me in trying to understand all of the issues involved, and I do not think that the blog has laid them all out. For one thing, the students would not get benefits. You have to work 50% or more in a career position to get UC benefits, so it is my impression that these students are being misled and used by AFSCME to lead the charge and use these heavy handed tactics and they may be very disappointed if ultimately the University hires the Sodexho workers as UCD employees and it doesn’t get them benefits as student workers. I agree that it will benefit career food service staff, that is clear. I am personally not frightened as you suggest, and I spent the better part of my day counseling many and I expect to hear more before all this is through.

  110. Anonymous

    Wow Richard, you really don’t get it do you. The chaining of the doors is the same tactic that the Virginia Tech shooter did. It was inexcusable and nothing justifies that tactic in today’s world. People that work in public education these days (and that includes lots of union represented folks)work in a high anxiety atmosphere, even in safe little ol’ Davis. Personally I am reviewing all of the information before coming to any conclusions about what the right solution is, however these tactics do not help me in trying to understand all of the issues involved, and I do not think that the blog has laid them all out. For one thing, the students would not get benefits. You have to work 50% or more in a career position to get UC benefits, so it is my impression that these students are being misled and used by AFSCME to lead the charge and use these heavy handed tactics and they may be very disappointed if ultimately the University hires the Sodexho workers as UCD employees and it doesn’t get them benefits as student workers. I agree that it will benefit career food service staff, that is clear. I am personally not frightened as you suggest, and I spent the better part of my day counseling many and I expect to hear more before all this is through.

  111. Anonymous

    Wow Richard, you really don’t get it do you. The chaining of the doors is the same tactic that the Virginia Tech shooter did. It was inexcusable and nothing justifies that tactic in today’s world. People that work in public education these days (and that includes lots of union represented folks)work in a high anxiety atmosphere, even in safe little ol’ Davis. Personally I am reviewing all of the information before coming to any conclusions about what the right solution is, however these tactics do not help me in trying to understand all of the issues involved, and I do not think that the blog has laid them all out. For one thing, the students would not get benefits. You have to work 50% or more in a career position to get UC benefits, so it is my impression that these students are being misled and used by AFSCME to lead the charge and use these heavy handed tactics and they may be very disappointed if ultimately the University hires the Sodexho workers as UCD employees and it doesn’t get them benefits as student workers. I agree that it will benefit career food service staff, that is clear. I am personally not frightened as you suggest, and I spent the better part of my day counseling many and I expect to hear more before all this is through.

  112. Anonymous

    Wow Richard, you really don’t get it do you. The chaining of the doors is the same tactic that the Virginia Tech shooter did. It was inexcusable and nothing justifies that tactic in today’s world. People that work in public education these days (and that includes lots of union represented folks)work in a high anxiety atmosphere, even in safe little ol’ Davis. Personally I am reviewing all of the information before coming to any conclusions about what the right solution is, however these tactics do not help me in trying to understand all of the issues involved, and I do not think that the blog has laid them all out. For one thing, the students would not get benefits. You have to work 50% or more in a career position to get UC benefits, so it is my impression that these students are being misled and used by AFSCME to lead the charge and use these heavy handed tactics and they may be very disappointed if ultimately the University hires the Sodexho workers as UCD employees and it doesn’t get them benefits as student workers. I agree that it will benefit career food service staff, that is clear. I am personally not frightened as you suggest, and I spent the better part of my day counseling many and I expect to hear more before all this is through.

  113. Bryant

    “Wow Richard, you really don’t get it do you. The chaining of the doors is the same tactic that the Virginia Tech shooter did. “

    Oh good lord. You have no credibility when you say crap like this.

    Those little girls (no offense) weren’t going to harm anyone. Good god.

  114. Bryant

    “Wow Richard, you really don’t get it do you. The chaining of the doors is the same tactic that the Virginia Tech shooter did. “

    Oh good lord. You have no credibility when you say crap like this.

    Those little girls (no offense) weren’t going to harm anyone. Good god.

  115. Bryant

    “Wow Richard, you really don’t get it do you. The chaining of the doors is the same tactic that the Virginia Tech shooter did. “

    Oh good lord. You have no credibility when you say crap like this.

    Those little girls (no offense) weren’t going to harm anyone. Good god.

  116. Bryant

    “Wow Richard, you really don’t get it do you. The chaining of the doors is the same tactic that the Virginia Tech shooter did. “

    Oh good lord. You have no credibility when you say crap like this.

    Those little girls (no offense) weren’t going to harm anyone. Good god.

  117. Jimmy

    Yes, UCD Staff Health is only $6 a month for Kaizer health.

    I am empathetic for everyone that had to work there, I’m sorry that you had to have a rough day.

    I’m more sorry for outsourced Sodexho workers that have to struggle everyday to make ends meet. If you were in Mrak Hall, it was your unlucky day, but remember that protests are usually effective because they disturb and strike a nerve at our inner moral. If a thousand Sudanese were banging on your windows for the right to live, would you suddenly lose all empathy for them? Take the opportunity to recognize that as much as you were inconvenienced by the protest, they are much more inconvenienced by the University’s chosen caterer’s decision to not pay equally.

  118. Jimmy

    Yes, UCD Staff Health is only $6 a month for Kaizer health.

    I am empathetic for everyone that had to work there, I’m sorry that you had to have a rough day.

    I’m more sorry for outsourced Sodexho workers that have to struggle everyday to make ends meet. If you were in Mrak Hall, it was your unlucky day, but remember that protests are usually effective because they disturb and strike a nerve at our inner moral. If a thousand Sudanese were banging on your windows for the right to live, would you suddenly lose all empathy for them? Take the opportunity to recognize that as much as you were inconvenienced by the protest, they are much more inconvenienced by the University’s chosen caterer’s decision to not pay equally.

  119. Jimmy

    Yes, UCD Staff Health is only $6 a month for Kaizer health.

    I am empathetic for everyone that had to work there, I’m sorry that you had to have a rough day.

    I’m more sorry for outsourced Sodexho workers that have to struggle everyday to make ends meet. If you were in Mrak Hall, it was your unlucky day, but remember that protests are usually effective because they disturb and strike a nerve at our inner moral. If a thousand Sudanese were banging on your windows for the right to live, would you suddenly lose all empathy for them? Take the opportunity to recognize that as much as you were inconvenienced by the protest, they are much more inconvenienced by the University’s chosen caterer’s decision to not pay equally.

  120. Jimmy

    Yes, UCD Staff Health is only $6 a month for Kaizer health.

    I am empathetic for everyone that had to work there, I’m sorry that you had to have a rough day.

    I’m more sorry for outsourced Sodexho workers that have to struggle everyday to make ends meet. If you were in Mrak Hall, it was your unlucky day, but remember that protests are usually effective because they disturb and strike a nerve at our inner moral. If a thousand Sudanese were banging on your windows for the right to live, would you suddenly lose all empathy for them? Take the opportunity to recognize that as much as you were inconvenienced by the protest, they are much more inconvenienced by the University’s chosen caterer’s decision to not pay equally.

  121. Anonymous

    I thought blocking the entrances and exits was going overboard, and the UC police and administration gave the demonstrators a lot of leeway by letting them do their thing when, in fact, they could have arrested the folks outside for blocking those doors, banging on the doors, putting a chain around the handles of one door and a stick through the handles of the other to block the door from being opened from the inside. The “evil UC” as lots of people like to portray it, actually was very lenient that day.

  122. Anonymous

    I thought blocking the entrances and exits was going overboard, and the UC police and administration gave the demonstrators a lot of leeway by letting them do their thing when, in fact, they could have arrested the folks outside for blocking those doors, banging on the doors, putting a chain around the handles of one door and a stick through the handles of the other to block the door from being opened from the inside. The “evil UC” as lots of people like to portray it, actually was very lenient that day.

  123. Anonymous

    I thought blocking the entrances and exits was going overboard, and the UC police and administration gave the demonstrators a lot of leeway by letting them do their thing when, in fact, they could have arrested the folks outside for blocking those doors, banging on the doors, putting a chain around the handles of one door and a stick through the handles of the other to block the door from being opened from the inside. The “evil UC” as lots of people like to portray it, actually was very lenient that day.

  124. Anonymous

    I thought blocking the entrances and exits was going overboard, and the UC police and administration gave the demonstrators a lot of leeway by letting them do their thing when, in fact, they could have arrested the folks outside for blocking those doors, banging on the doors, putting a chain around the handles of one door and a stick through the handles of the other to block the door from being opened from the inside. The “evil UC” as lots of people like to portray it, actually was very lenient that day.

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