Saylor Announcement: The Rest of the Story

Don Saylor announces his bid for reelection, and the Davis Enterprise treats it as a headlining story, not only above the fold, but at the very top of the paper. We of course have known since January that Saylor would be running for reelection, and it is worth noting that his counterpart and colleague Stephen Souza did not get above the fold treatment when he announced his reelection bid a few months back.

However, this story is not about placement, it is not about what Saylor said on Friday night, and it is about what he did not say and what was not reported. You’ve heard the news; now you will hear… the rest of the story.

In the photo on the right from the Davis Enterprise, Saylor is shown talking to Bruce West and Jeff Pelz from West Yost Associates. What the Davis Enterprise does not tell you is who West Yost Associates is and what their connection to Davis City government entails. West Yost Associates are the water consulting engineers who have been receiving city money to design and construct the new water intake system. That’s a project estimated to run the city between $150 and $300 million dollars and likely to increase residents’ water rates by two to three fold over the next 10 years or so.

Don Saylor has been a strong champion of the new water project despite strong reservation from many progressive, environmental, and smart growth groups. The project has drawn strong questioning from a number of university faculty who are experts in water quality. These experts have great concerns about the costs of the project, wisdom of transporting Sacramento River Water, alternatives, environmental impacts, etc. However, the city led by Don Saylor has heard very few of these concerns at least in public, and one of the reasons is the insistence of Don Saylor to push this project through. So here you have associates with a company that has millions of dollars worth of business with the city at an event supporting Don Saylor’s bid for reelection, meanwhile Saylor has refused to support an independent, outside second opinion regarding the feasibility of postponing this project until the $200 million wastewater and storm water upgrades are paid off.

But there is more. As the Vanguard has demonstrated in the past, Saylor continues to want to have it both ways–supporting development projects while talking about sustainability and a lighter environmental footprint.

According to the paper, Saylor said, “sustainability cannot be accomplished by ‘saying no to every development opportunity.'”

Sounds like a fair enough statement, but then there is no mention of Saylor’s track record on development. In fact, it is hard to think of a development opportunity that Saylor has not supported. Saylor hasn’t “said no to every development opportunity,” he’s said no to almost no development opportunities.

On this score, no mention of the ardent support that Don Saylor had for Covell Village. He was outspoken as a supporter of Covell Village both in the planning phase and in the ballot initiative phase. In fact, he was much more than just a supporter–he and his council majority colleagues actively campaigned for the proposal–acting as advocates and cheerleaders for it. He acted as an advocate for developer interests on the Covell project as a member of the council. This is a proposal that was voted down by the Davis voters by nearly a 60-40 margin, and yet Don Saylor supported it, strongly. Now he wants to suggest that we cannot say no to every development opportunity.

Likewise, Don Saylor was a strong advocate for Target, an initiative that passed by the barest of margins last November despite a $300,000 campaign that outspent the opposition by over 10 to 1. As with the Covell Village project, he worked on the Target campaign and helped to get it passed. These are two of the biggest development projects ever proposed in Davis and Don Saylor was supporting both of them.

Don Saylor’s statement about not turning down every development opportunity rings false, in fact, I wonder if there has ever been a major development opportunity that Saylor has opposed in Davis. Frankly, if he supported Covell, he’s probably going to support them all. Those of you who are nervous about the 3rd and B Street Visioning Project might want to keep that in mind.

Those of you who voted against Covell Village should be wary that there are plans and have been discussions both in council and in the Housing Element Committee to look into Covell Village II. This is not just about punishing Saylor for his past votes, it is for ensuring that the residents of Davis, 60% of whom voted against Covell Village, have their choice respected by their elected representatives on the council.

Saylor also made veiled reference to “sustaining the fabric of community.”

According to the Enterprise:

“By that, Saylor was referring to the tone of public discourse in Davis which has, at times, crept into the uncivil. He pointed guests to copies of an op-ed piece he wrote for The Davis Enterprise about community relations.”

Well if Saylor wants to wage his campaign based on civility, I would suggest he is opening a giant hornet’s nest. If Saylor wants to point people toward his op-ed piece, I will point Vanguard readers toward my response to his op-ed piece, entitled: Who is Saylor to Lecture US on Civility in Public Discourse? In that piece, specific incidents are mentioned where Saylor himself is uncivil–attacking both the Mayor and Councilmember Lamar Heystek–sometimes rather viciously.

Don Saylor wants to talk about civility does he? Where was Don Saylor when his colleague Ruth Asmundson attacked Mayor Greenwald on the dais?

Asmundson stated:

“It’s just unfortunate that the mayor cannot run the meeting more efficiently… If we have a more efficient meeting then we can finish all these things.”

As it turned out the problem was not so much that the mayor couldn’t run a meeting more efficiently it was that certain council members, namely Asmundson and Saylor spoke for a disproportionately long time compared to their colleagues. Of course, Saylor never spoke against the uncivil tone that his ally used, and yet he wants to lecture us about bringing civility to this community? How about starting by putting your money where your mouth is.

Politicians get away with making misleading statements because no one calls them on the truth. When Saylor wants to run a campaign based on half-truths and tries to have it both ways to confuse the voters into believing he is environmentally conscious and that the debate is really over not turning down every development, he attempts to insult the intelligence of the voters of this town. The voters know that Saylor has a reputation as a strong supporter of even development projects that are voted down by massive margins and as a man who is quick to be just as uncivil to other individuals as he falsely accuses them of being to him.

—Doug Paul Davis reporting

About The Author

David Greenwald is the founder, editor, and executive director of the Davis Vanguard. He founded the Vanguard in 2006. David Greenwald moved to Davis in 1996 to attend Graduate School at UC Davis in Political Science. He lives in South Davis with his wife Cecilia Escamilla Greenwald and three children.

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  1. Mike Shepley

    well, among the list of “usual suspects” West Yost rates high. The sad fact in Davis politics (like politics in general) is that Council people (elected reps) come and go but the apparat continues to develop its projects (or the projects of some close friends…)
    In effect, since money elects, we often wind up with a majority of “our representatives” who are selected by forces beyond our control (outsiders with significant developer’s interest).
    This Saylor biz is that writ in ital. BOLD.
    Now, to get to it, The water pipeline is a project that seems perenially to be in search of an acceptable excuse to be built. The boogeyman the pipe will beat keeps shape shifting, or something. The fact is the pipe will allow more (and accelerated) housing growth, period
    That is the only reason for its existence. And it will be expensive (far more expensive than Mr. Da Brea has yet to admit.
    It may wind up being a pipe to nowhere,too, if Delta water problems increase (particularly given the south bias of water demand), and water either becomes prohibitively pricey, or cut off (I would wager nothing on existing water law/judicial opinions should governor(s) emergency decrees emerge as the answer to the state’s persistent problems).
    Finally, the Q of how the $$$ are obtained to pay for this MUST be asked now. There is a reassuring (‘there there’) mutter from the aparatchics- oh sure, we will have a vote on bonds, and such.
    In prepping a little public talk on this water biz in 04, I asked the City Clerk if bonds were the usual source of funding- to ramp up her response a bit, she said something to the effect-
    “Oh, heavens no! It is nearly impossible to pass a bond issue, except for schools, now. The builders bring their own financing!”
    The company contracted brings his banker with the loan to do the thing.
    We pay that banker back.
    The Council has already approved this project.
    There will never be a public vote.
    (by the by, I would love to know where to get ahold of the Professors’arguments against the project, which I have yet to stumble over and would already have used…)
    Mike Shepley
    Davis, CA

  2. Mike Shepley

    well, among the list of “usual suspects” West Yost rates high. The sad fact in Davis politics (like politics in general) is that Council people (elected reps) come and go but the apparat continues to develop its projects (or the projects of some close friends…)
    In effect, since money elects, we often wind up with a majority of “our representatives” who are selected by forces beyond our control (outsiders with significant developer’s interest).
    This Saylor biz is that writ in ital. BOLD.
    Now, to get to it, The water pipeline is a project that seems perenially to be in search of an acceptable excuse to be built. The boogeyman the pipe will beat keeps shape shifting, or something. The fact is the pipe will allow more (and accelerated) housing growth, period
    That is the only reason for its existence. And it will be expensive (far more expensive than Mr. Da Brea has yet to admit.
    It may wind up being a pipe to nowhere,too, if Delta water problems increase (particularly given the south bias of water demand), and water either becomes prohibitively pricey, or cut off (I would wager nothing on existing water law/judicial opinions should governor(s) emergency decrees emerge as the answer to the state’s persistent problems).
    Finally, the Q of how the $$$ are obtained to pay for this MUST be asked now. There is a reassuring (‘there there’) mutter from the aparatchics- oh sure, we will have a vote on bonds, and such.
    In prepping a little public talk on this water biz in 04, I asked the City Clerk if bonds were the usual source of funding- to ramp up her response a bit, she said something to the effect-
    “Oh, heavens no! It is nearly impossible to pass a bond issue, except for schools, now. The builders bring their own financing!”
    The company contracted brings his banker with the loan to do the thing.
    We pay that banker back.
    The Council has already approved this project.
    There will never be a public vote.
    (by the by, I would love to know where to get ahold of the Professors’arguments against the project, which I have yet to stumble over and would already have used…)
    Mike Shepley
    Davis, CA

  3. Mike Shepley

    well, among the list of “usual suspects” West Yost rates high. The sad fact in Davis politics (like politics in general) is that Council people (elected reps) come and go but the apparat continues to develop its projects (or the projects of some close friends…)
    In effect, since money elects, we often wind up with a majority of “our representatives” who are selected by forces beyond our control (outsiders with significant developer’s interest).
    This Saylor biz is that writ in ital. BOLD.
    Now, to get to it, The water pipeline is a project that seems perenially to be in search of an acceptable excuse to be built. The boogeyman the pipe will beat keeps shape shifting, or something. The fact is the pipe will allow more (and accelerated) housing growth, period
    That is the only reason for its existence. And it will be expensive (far more expensive than Mr. Da Brea has yet to admit.
    It may wind up being a pipe to nowhere,too, if Delta water problems increase (particularly given the south bias of water demand), and water either becomes prohibitively pricey, or cut off (I would wager nothing on existing water law/judicial opinions should governor(s) emergency decrees emerge as the answer to the state’s persistent problems).
    Finally, the Q of how the $$$ are obtained to pay for this MUST be asked now. There is a reassuring (‘there there’) mutter from the aparatchics- oh sure, we will have a vote on bonds, and such.
    In prepping a little public talk on this water biz in 04, I asked the City Clerk if bonds were the usual source of funding- to ramp up her response a bit, she said something to the effect-
    “Oh, heavens no! It is nearly impossible to pass a bond issue, except for schools, now. The builders bring their own financing!”
    The company contracted brings his banker with the loan to do the thing.
    We pay that banker back.
    The Council has already approved this project.
    There will never be a public vote.
    (by the by, I would love to know where to get ahold of the Professors’arguments against the project, which I have yet to stumble over and would already have used…)
    Mike Shepley
    Davis, CA

  4. Mike Shepley

    well, among the list of “usual suspects” West Yost rates high. The sad fact in Davis politics (like politics in general) is that Council people (elected reps) come and go but the apparat continues to develop its projects (or the projects of some close friends…)
    In effect, since money elects, we often wind up with a majority of “our representatives” who are selected by forces beyond our control (outsiders with significant developer’s interest).
    This Saylor biz is that writ in ital. BOLD.
    Now, to get to it, The water pipeline is a project that seems perenially to be in search of an acceptable excuse to be built. The boogeyman the pipe will beat keeps shape shifting, or something. The fact is the pipe will allow more (and accelerated) housing growth, period
    That is the only reason for its existence. And it will be expensive (far more expensive than Mr. Da Brea has yet to admit.
    It may wind up being a pipe to nowhere,too, if Delta water problems increase (particularly given the south bias of water demand), and water either becomes prohibitively pricey, or cut off (I would wager nothing on existing water law/judicial opinions should governor(s) emergency decrees emerge as the answer to the state’s persistent problems).
    Finally, the Q of how the $$$ are obtained to pay for this MUST be asked now. There is a reassuring (‘there there’) mutter from the aparatchics- oh sure, we will have a vote on bonds, and such.
    In prepping a little public talk on this water biz in 04, I asked the City Clerk if bonds were the usual source of funding- to ramp up her response a bit, she said something to the effect-
    “Oh, heavens no! It is nearly impossible to pass a bond issue, except for schools, now. The builders bring their own financing!”
    The company contracted brings his banker with the loan to do the thing.
    We pay that banker back.
    The Council has already approved this project.
    There will never be a public vote.
    (by the by, I would love to know where to get ahold of the Professors’arguments against the project, which I have yet to stumble over and would already have used…)
    Mike Shepley
    Davis, CA

  5. Mary

    Thank you for unveiling the “dark underbelly of Davis,” also known as council member Don Saylor. It’s about time someone catches him on his double speak. It’s quite creepy that someone can so easily play that game the way he does. The public is too smart.

  6. Mary

    Thank you for unveiling the “dark underbelly of Davis,” also known as council member Don Saylor. It’s about time someone catches him on his double speak. It’s quite creepy that someone can so easily play that game the way he does. The public is too smart.

  7. Mary

    Thank you for unveiling the “dark underbelly of Davis,” also known as council member Don Saylor. It’s about time someone catches him on his double speak. It’s quite creepy that someone can so easily play that game the way he does. The public is too smart.

  8. Mary

    Thank you for unveiling the “dark underbelly of Davis,” also known as council member Don Saylor. It’s about time someone catches him on his double speak. It’s quite creepy that someone can so easily play that game the way he does. The public is too smart.

  9. Anonymous

    Would having a pipeline allow Davis to have drinkable water? Improving the foul tasting stuff that comes out of our taps today doesn’t sound like such a bad thing, though of course this must be balanced against the costs.

  10. Anonymous

    Would having a pipeline allow Davis to have drinkable water? Improving the foul tasting stuff that comes out of our taps today doesn’t sound like such a bad thing, though of course this must be balanced against the costs.

  11. Anonymous

    Would having a pipeline allow Davis to have drinkable water? Improving the foul tasting stuff that comes out of our taps today doesn’t sound like such a bad thing, though of course this must be balanced against the costs.

  12. Anonymous

    Would having a pipeline allow Davis to have drinkable water? Improving the foul tasting stuff that comes out of our taps today doesn’t sound like such a bad thing, though of course this must be balanced against the costs.

  13. Vincente

    The drinkability would also depend on the pipes, but it is possible it would be better. The problem is that you’ll be paying over $1200 per year for that drinkability.

  14. Vincente

    The drinkability would also depend on the pipes, but it is possible it would be better. The problem is that you’ll be paying over $1200 per year for that drinkability.

  15. Vincente

    The drinkability would also depend on the pipes, but it is possible it would be better. The problem is that you’ll be paying over $1200 per year for that drinkability.

  16. Vincente

    The drinkability would also depend on the pipes, but it is possible it would be better. The problem is that you’ll be paying over $1200 per year for that drinkability.

  17. Anonymous

    I read the story in Sunday’s paper and wondered if the Enterprise would offer the same kind of “puff piece” to Sue Greenwald if, and when, she announces a re-election bid. I suspect not.

    I also spent some time trying to come up with any Don Saylor “accomplishments” … still working on that one.

    Saylor is also actively cultivating a farm team of candidates for the school board (e.g. Richard Harris, Susan Lovenburg) to go along with his protege, Gina Daleiden. If those folks can’t show some greater independence and backbone at this stage of their political “careers,” I hold out little hope for them as elected officials.

  18. Anonymous

    I read the story in Sunday’s paper and wondered if the Enterprise would offer the same kind of “puff piece” to Sue Greenwald if, and when, she announces a re-election bid. I suspect not.

    I also spent some time trying to come up with any Don Saylor “accomplishments” … still working on that one.

    Saylor is also actively cultivating a farm team of candidates for the school board (e.g. Richard Harris, Susan Lovenburg) to go along with his protege, Gina Daleiden. If those folks can’t show some greater independence and backbone at this stage of their political “careers,” I hold out little hope for them as elected officials.

  19. Anonymous

    I read the story in Sunday’s paper and wondered if the Enterprise would offer the same kind of “puff piece” to Sue Greenwald if, and when, she announces a re-election bid. I suspect not.

    I also spent some time trying to come up with any Don Saylor “accomplishments” … still working on that one.

    Saylor is also actively cultivating a farm team of candidates for the school board (e.g. Richard Harris, Susan Lovenburg) to go along with his protege, Gina Daleiden. If those folks can’t show some greater independence and backbone at this stage of their political “careers,” I hold out little hope for them as elected officials.

  20. Anonymous

    I read the story in Sunday’s paper and wondered if the Enterprise would offer the same kind of “puff piece” to Sue Greenwald if, and when, she announces a re-election bid. I suspect not.

    I also spent some time trying to come up with any Don Saylor “accomplishments” … still working on that one.

    Saylor is also actively cultivating a farm team of candidates for the school board (e.g. Richard Harris, Susan Lovenburg) to go along with his protege, Gina Daleiden. If those folks can’t show some greater independence and backbone at this stage of their political “careers,” I hold out little hope for them as elected officials.

  21. Richard

    sadly, the phenomenon of developer friendly, corporate friendly politicians like Saylor is not exclusive to Davis

    where I now live, in the Land Park area of Sacramento, I am blessed to be represented on the city council by Rob Fong, arena promoter and commonly encountered in the pages of the Sacramento Bee with his picture, accompanied by a quote advocating yet another government subsidy for some multimillionaire’s pet project, and, on the Board of Supervisors, Jimmie Yee, champion of the realters, whose current endeavor is to use the litigation exception to the open meeting law to gut the county’s affordable housing requirements for new developments

    Saylor is just par for the course, although his brazen sleaziness probably requires a place like Davis, where the public can’t admit that they are being had in the most transparent of ways without puncturing their myth of political and intellectual superiority

    –Richard Estes

  22. Richard

    sadly, the phenomenon of developer friendly, corporate friendly politicians like Saylor is not exclusive to Davis

    where I now live, in the Land Park area of Sacramento, I am blessed to be represented on the city council by Rob Fong, arena promoter and commonly encountered in the pages of the Sacramento Bee with his picture, accompanied by a quote advocating yet another government subsidy for some multimillionaire’s pet project, and, on the Board of Supervisors, Jimmie Yee, champion of the realters, whose current endeavor is to use the litigation exception to the open meeting law to gut the county’s affordable housing requirements for new developments

    Saylor is just par for the course, although his brazen sleaziness probably requires a place like Davis, where the public can’t admit that they are being had in the most transparent of ways without puncturing their myth of political and intellectual superiority

    –Richard Estes

  23. Richard

    sadly, the phenomenon of developer friendly, corporate friendly politicians like Saylor is not exclusive to Davis

    where I now live, in the Land Park area of Sacramento, I am blessed to be represented on the city council by Rob Fong, arena promoter and commonly encountered in the pages of the Sacramento Bee with his picture, accompanied by a quote advocating yet another government subsidy for some multimillionaire’s pet project, and, on the Board of Supervisors, Jimmie Yee, champion of the realters, whose current endeavor is to use the litigation exception to the open meeting law to gut the county’s affordable housing requirements for new developments

    Saylor is just par for the course, although his brazen sleaziness probably requires a place like Davis, where the public can’t admit that they are being had in the most transparent of ways without puncturing their myth of political and intellectual superiority

    –Richard Estes

  24. Richard

    sadly, the phenomenon of developer friendly, corporate friendly politicians like Saylor is not exclusive to Davis

    where I now live, in the Land Park area of Sacramento, I am blessed to be represented on the city council by Rob Fong, arena promoter and commonly encountered in the pages of the Sacramento Bee with his picture, accompanied by a quote advocating yet another government subsidy for some multimillionaire’s pet project, and, on the Board of Supervisors, Jimmie Yee, champion of the realters, whose current endeavor is to use the litigation exception to the open meeting law to gut the county’s affordable housing requirements for new developments

    Saylor is just par for the course, although his brazen sleaziness probably requires a place like Davis, where the public can’t admit that they are being had in the most transparent of ways without puncturing their myth of political and intellectual superiority

    –Richard Estes

  25. truman

    To Anonymous of 10:59 AM

    In answer to your question, Richard Estes until two years ago was a longtime resident of Davis who has been politically involved in our city for many years. His insight and historical prospective is valuable to this blog and the understanding of our community.

  26. truman

    To Anonymous of 10:59 AM

    In answer to your question, Richard Estes until two years ago was a longtime resident of Davis who has been politically involved in our city for many years. His insight and historical prospective is valuable to this blog and the understanding of our community.

  27. truman

    To Anonymous of 10:59 AM

    In answer to your question, Richard Estes until two years ago was a longtime resident of Davis who has been politically involved in our city for many years. His insight and historical prospective is valuable to this blog and the understanding of our community.

  28. truman

    To Anonymous of 10:59 AM

    In answer to your question, Richard Estes until two years ago was a longtime resident of Davis who has been politically involved in our city for many years. His insight and historical prospective is valuable to this blog and the understanding of our community.

  29. Richard

    hint: it’s called the INTERNET, and, amazing enough, people have access to it all over the world, not just Davis

    only in Davis would they presume to cordon off a piece of it for Davis residents only, but, hey, there’s a reason why, historically, people from around the region have talked rather ascerbically about the city’s “drawbridge” mentality

    I frequently joke that Davis has citizenship requirements akin to the old South Africa, for the first 10 years of residency, you are provided a pass which permits you entry and egress into the city, the right to live in a residence and shop at commercial establishments, but you are not, definitely not, supposed to make any public comment about any social or political issues, or, horror or horrors, actually appear at a city council meeting for public comment (for this, your pass is revoked, and you are promptly expelled), and then, after 10 years, you get a Davis citizenship card

    there is a more serious side to this, though, this disregard for any comment any outside comment, expertise or knowledge, as it appears to be related to how Davis is frequently 10 years behind the curve on most planning and city governance issues, note, for example, that Davis wanted to place a strip mall in the Olive Drive area in 1994, when most other jurisdictions had abandoned them as a result of painful, adverse experience, or, also, observe that most other jurisdictions pay their police more than Davis, and actually provide them with up to date communications technology in their vehicles, and, then there’s civil rights and the condescending, if not inhospitable attitude towards African Americans . . . oh, well, there’ve already been a lot of posts about that

    I have a friend who is much more concise about this peculiar combination of arrogance, insularity and backwardness: he calls Davis “MAYBERRY”. I tend to think of it more like the island in the old cult TV show favorite, THE PRISONER, a connection exposed by the fact that both the show and Davis have the same, identical bicycle symbol

    –Richard Estes

    P. S. I lived in Davis for nearly 25 years, with a few brief interruptions, and, obviously, as you might have guessed, my departure means that my citizenship card has been revoked, and that law enforcement will soon take action to disable my ability to comment on this site or anywhere else about issues related to the city of Davis.

  30. Richard

    hint: it’s called the INTERNET, and, amazing enough, people have access to it all over the world, not just Davis

    only in Davis would they presume to cordon off a piece of it for Davis residents only, but, hey, there’s a reason why, historically, people from around the region have talked rather ascerbically about the city’s “drawbridge” mentality

    I frequently joke that Davis has citizenship requirements akin to the old South Africa, for the first 10 years of residency, you are provided a pass which permits you entry and egress into the city, the right to live in a residence and shop at commercial establishments, but you are not, definitely not, supposed to make any public comment about any social or political issues, or, horror or horrors, actually appear at a city council meeting for public comment (for this, your pass is revoked, and you are promptly expelled), and then, after 10 years, you get a Davis citizenship card

    there is a more serious side to this, though, this disregard for any comment any outside comment, expertise or knowledge, as it appears to be related to how Davis is frequently 10 years behind the curve on most planning and city governance issues, note, for example, that Davis wanted to place a strip mall in the Olive Drive area in 1994, when most other jurisdictions had abandoned them as a result of painful, adverse experience, or, also, observe that most other jurisdictions pay their police more than Davis, and actually provide them with up to date communications technology in their vehicles, and, then there’s civil rights and the condescending, if not inhospitable attitude towards African Americans . . . oh, well, there’ve already been a lot of posts about that

    I have a friend who is much more concise about this peculiar combination of arrogance, insularity and backwardness: he calls Davis “MAYBERRY”. I tend to think of it more like the island in the old cult TV show favorite, THE PRISONER, a connection exposed by the fact that both the show and Davis have the same, identical bicycle symbol

    –Richard Estes

    P. S. I lived in Davis for nearly 25 years, with a few brief interruptions, and, obviously, as you might have guessed, my departure means that my citizenship card has been revoked, and that law enforcement will soon take action to disable my ability to comment on this site or anywhere else about issues related to the city of Davis.

  31. Richard

    hint: it’s called the INTERNET, and, amazing enough, people have access to it all over the world, not just Davis

    only in Davis would they presume to cordon off a piece of it for Davis residents only, but, hey, there’s a reason why, historically, people from around the region have talked rather ascerbically about the city’s “drawbridge” mentality

    I frequently joke that Davis has citizenship requirements akin to the old South Africa, for the first 10 years of residency, you are provided a pass which permits you entry and egress into the city, the right to live in a residence and shop at commercial establishments, but you are not, definitely not, supposed to make any public comment about any social or political issues, or, horror or horrors, actually appear at a city council meeting for public comment (for this, your pass is revoked, and you are promptly expelled), and then, after 10 years, you get a Davis citizenship card

    there is a more serious side to this, though, this disregard for any comment any outside comment, expertise or knowledge, as it appears to be related to how Davis is frequently 10 years behind the curve on most planning and city governance issues, note, for example, that Davis wanted to place a strip mall in the Olive Drive area in 1994, when most other jurisdictions had abandoned them as a result of painful, adverse experience, or, also, observe that most other jurisdictions pay their police more than Davis, and actually provide them with up to date communications technology in their vehicles, and, then there’s civil rights and the condescending, if not inhospitable attitude towards African Americans . . . oh, well, there’ve already been a lot of posts about that

    I have a friend who is much more concise about this peculiar combination of arrogance, insularity and backwardness: he calls Davis “MAYBERRY”. I tend to think of it more like the island in the old cult TV show favorite, THE PRISONER, a connection exposed by the fact that both the show and Davis have the same, identical bicycle symbol

    –Richard Estes

    P. S. I lived in Davis for nearly 25 years, with a few brief interruptions, and, obviously, as you might have guessed, my departure means that my citizenship card has been revoked, and that law enforcement will soon take action to disable my ability to comment on this site or anywhere else about issues related to the city of Davis.

  32. Richard

    hint: it’s called the INTERNET, and, amazing enough, people have access to it all over the world, not just Davis

    only in Davis would they presume to cordon off a piece of it for Davis residents only, but, hey, there’s a reason why, historically, people from around the region have talked rather ascerbically about the city’s “drawbridge” mentality

    I frequently joke that Davis has citizenship requirements akin to the old South Africa, for the first 10 years of residency, you are provided a pass which permits you entry and egress into the city, the right to live in a residence and shop at commercial establishments, but you are not, definitely not, supposed to make any public comment about any social or political issues, or, horror or horrors, actually appear at a city council meeting for public comment (for this, your pass is revoked, and you are promptly expelled), and then, after 10 years, you get a Davis citizenship card

    there is a more serious side to this, though, this disregard for any comment any outside comment, expertise or knowledge, as it appears to be related to how Davis is frequently 10 years behind the curve on most planning and city governance issues, note, for example, that Davis wanted to place a strip mall in the Olive Drive area in 1994, when most other jurisdictions had abandoned them as a result of painful, adverse experience, or, also, observe that most other jurisdictions pay their police more than Davis, and actually provide them with up to date communications technology in their vehicles, and, then there’s civil rights and the condescending, if not inhospitable attitude towards African Americans . . . oh, well, there’ve already been a lot of posts about that

    I have a friend who is much more concise about this peculiar combination of arrogance, insularity and backwardness: he calls Davis “MAYBERRY”. I tend to think of it more like the island in the old cult TV show favorite, THE PRISONER, a connection exposed by the fact that both the show and Davis have the same, identical bicycle symbol

    –Richard Estes

    P. S. I lived in Davis for nearly 25 years, with a few brief interruptions, and, obviously, as you might have guessed, my departure means that my citizenship card has been revoked, and that law enforcement will soon take action to disable my ability to comment on this site or anywhere else about issues related to the city of Davis.

  33. Anonymous

    Richard, I guess that Mariko Yamada is an exception to your 10 year rule then. She has been a Davis resident for 12 years now, and as we all know, has been very politically active the entire time, and has been serving as an elected representative for the last several years. I suspect there are lots of others that have become involved without feeling intimidated by some kind of residency requirement.

  34. Anonymous

    Richard, I guess that Mariko Yamada is an exception to your 10 year rule then. She has been a Davis resident for 12 years now, and as we all know, has been very politically active the entire time, and has been serving as an elected representative for the last several years. I suspect there are lots of others that have become involved without feeling intimidated by some kind of residency requirement.

  35. Anonymous

    Richard, I guess that Mariko Yamada is an exception to your 10 year rule then. She has been a Davis resident for 12 years now, and as we all know, has been very politically active the entire time, and has been serving as an elected representative for the last several years. I suspect there are lots of others that have become involved without feeling intimidated by some kind of residency requirement.

  36. Anonymous

    Richard, I guess that Mariko Yamada is an exception to your 10 year rule then. She has been a Davis resident for 12 years now, and as we all know, has been very politically active the entire time, and has been serving as an elected representative for the last several years. I suspect there are lots of others that have become involved without feeling intimidated by some kind of residency requirement.

  37. Don Shor

    “…where the public can’t admit that they are being had in the most transparent of ways without puncturing their myth of political and intellectual superiority…”
    It isn’t the fact that you comment about Davis issues, Richard; anyone has the right to do that. It’s the things you say, which are overtly hostile sweeping characterizations.

  38. Don Shor

    “…where the public can’t admit that they are being had in the most transparent of ways without puncturing their myth of political and intellectual superiority…”
    It isn’t the fact that you comment about Davis issues, Richard; anyone has the right to do that. It’s the things you say, which are overtly hostile sweeping characterizations.

  39. Don Shor

    “…where the public can’t admit that they are being had in the most transparent of ways without puncturing their myth of political and intellectual superiority…”
    It isn’t the fact that you comment about Davis issues, Richard; anyone has the right to do that. It’s the things you say, which are overtly hostile sweeping characterizations.

  40. Don Shor

    “…where the public can’t admit that they are being had in the most transparent of ways without puncturing their myth of political and intellectual superiority…”
    It isn’t the fact that you comment about Davis issues, Richard; anyone has the right to do that. It’s the things you say, which are overtly hostile sweeping characterizations.

  41. Anonymous

    Re: Saylor

    It all isn’t much of a surprise.

    All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway. Why else would someone like Jeff Reisig, a citizen of West Sacramento and an employee of Yolo County, be part of a Davis City Council candidate announcement party? It is political payback time. They either come and endorse him or they will suffer politically or financially later – that’s the way Don gets things done.

    Don has a lot of support and was really, really disappointed that he wasn’t mayor the first time around. He is organized and has a tremendous amount of people with political knowledge in motion paving his way.

    He can be rude, he can be coniving, he can be two-faced, but that won’t matter. People knew about his approving the use of telephone booth size cages for kids at CYA, about his improper dealings with teachers while he was on the school board, but people still voted for him.

    He shows up and he volunteers. People are grateful for that. They see him as this gentle compassionate person. Any personal attack toward Don will be looked at as “uncivil.” Don’s op-ed has set the stage for that. He’s very clever actually. To bad he doesn’t direct that cleverness toward creating true benefit to the broad community.

  42. Anonymous

    Re: Saylor

    It all isn’t much of a surprise.

    All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway. Why else would someone like Jeff Reisig, a citizen of West Sacramento and an employee of Yolo County, be part of a Davis City Council candidate announcement party? It is political payback time. They either come and endorse him or they will suffer politically or financially later – that’s the way Don gets things done.

    Don has a lot of support and was really, really disappointed that he wasn’t mayor the first time around. He is organized and has a tremendous amount of people with political knowledge in motion paving his way.

    He can be rude, he can be coniving, he can be two-faced, but that won’t matter. People knew about his approving the use of telephone booth size cages for kids at CYA, about his improper dealings with teachers while he was on the school board, but people still voted for him.

    He shows up and he volunteers. People are grateful for that. They see him as this gentle compassionate person. Any personal attack toward Don will be looked at as “uncivil.” Don’s op-ed has set the stage for that. He’s very clever actually. To bad he doesn’t direct that cleverness toward creating true benefit to the broad community.

  43. Anonymous

    Re: Saylor

    It all isn’t much of a surprise.

    All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway. Why else would someone like Jeff Reisig, a citizen of West Sacramento and an employee of Yolo County, be part of a Davis City Council candidate announcement party? It is political payback time. They either come and endorse him or they will suffer politically or financially later – that’s the way Don gets things done.

    Don has a lot of support and was really, really disappointed that he wasn’t mayor the first time around. He is organized and has a tremendous amount of people with political knowledge in motion paving his way.

    He can be rude, he can be coniving, he can be two-faced, but that won’t matter. People knew about his approving the use of telephone booth size cages for kids at CYA, about his improper dealings with teachers while he was on the school board, but people still voted for him.

    He shows up and he volunteers. People are grateful for that. They see him as this gentle compassionate person. Any personal attack toward Don will be looked at as “uncivil.” Don’s op-ed has set the stage for that. He’s very clever actually. To bad he doesn’t direct that cleverness toward creating true benefit to the broad community.

  44. Anonymous

    Re: Saylor

    It all isn’t much of a surprise.

    All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway. Why else would someone like Jeff Reisig, a citizen of West Sacramento and an employee of Yolo County, be part of a Davis City Council candidate announcement party? It is political payback time. They either come and endorse him or they will suffer politically or financially later – that’s the way Don gets things done.

    Don has a lot of support and was really, really disappointed that he wasn’t mayor the first time around. He is organized and has a tremendous amount of people with political knowledge in motion paving his way.

    He can be rude, he can be coniving, he can be two-faced, but that won’t matter. People knew about his approving the use of telephone booth size cages for kids at CYA, about his improper dealings with teachers while he was on the school board, but people still voted for him.

    He shows up and he volunteers. People are grateful for that. They see him as this gentle compassionate person. Any personal attack toward Don will be looked at as “uncivil.” Don’s op-ed has set the stage for that. He’s very clever actually. To bad he doesn’t direct that cleverness toward creating true benefit to the broad community.

  45. Rich Rifkin

    “All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway.”

    Is it generally assumed that if you attend a party such as the one Saylor had (and assuming you are not there as a caterer or reporter), that you are a supporter of the candidate? Might not some, or many of the people in attendance just be curious folks who thought it looked like an enjoyable event?

  46. Rich Rifkin

    “All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway.”

    Is it generally assumed that if you attend a party such as the one Saylor had (and assuming you are not there as a caterer or reporter), that you are a supporter of the candidate? Might not some, or many of the people in attendance just be curious folks who thought it looked like an enjoyable event?

  47. Rich Rifkin

    “All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway.”

    Is it generally assumed that if you attend a party such as the one Saylor had (and assuming you are not there as a caterer or reporter), that you are a supporter of the candidate? Might not some, or many of the people in attendance just be curious folks who thought it looked like an enjoyable event?

  48. Rich Rifkin

    “All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway.”

    Is it generally assumed that if you attend a party such as the one Saylor had (and assuming you are not there as a caterer or reporter), that you are a supporter of the candidate? Might not some, or many of the people in attendance just be curious folks who thought it looked like an enjoyable event?

  49. Rich Rifkin

    FWIW, I was invited to the party on Glacier Drive, but did not attend do to another engagement I preferred to go to. But if I had gone, I would not have gone as an endorser. I rarely publicly endorse candidates in Davis — in part because my endorsement may well hurt them. My greatest curiosity was to see the new complex on Glacier Drive which has been so much in the news (including the NY Times).

  50. Rich Rifkin

    FWIW, I was invited to the party on Glacier Drive, but did not attend do to another engagement I preferred to go to. But if I had gone, I would not have gone as an endorser. I rarely publicly endorse candidates in Davis — in part because my endorsement may well hurt them. My greatest curiosity was to see the new complex on Glacier Drive which has been so much in the news (including the NY Times).

  51. Rich Rifkin

    FWIW, I was invited to the party on Glacier Drive, but did not attend do to another engagement I preferred to go to. But if I had gone, I would not have gone as an endorser. I rarely publicly endorse candidates in Davis — in part because my endorsement may well hurt them. My greatest curiosity was to see the new complex on Glacier Drive which has been so much in the news (including the NY Times).

  52. Rich Rifkin

    FWIW, I was invited to the party on Glacier Drive, but did not attend do to another engagement I preferred to go to. But if I had gone, I would not have gone as an endorser. I rarely publicly endorse candidates in Davis — in part because my endorsement may well hurt them. My greatest curiosity was to see the new complex on Glacier Drive which has been so much in the news (including the NY Times).

  53. Sharla

    The Enterprise published a correction to its story on Don’s party. The paper erroneously reported that all five members of the school board attended. However, Keltie Jones did not attend Don’s party.

  54. Sharla

    The Enterprise published a correction to its story on Don’s party. The paper erroneously reported that all five members of the school board attended. However, Keltie Jones did not attend Don’s party.

  55. Sharla

    The Enterprise published a correction to its story on Don’s party. The paper erroneously reported that all five members of the school board attended. However, Keltie Jones did not attend Don’s party.

  56. Sharla

    The Enterprise published a correction to its story on Don’s party. The paper erroneously reported that all five members of the school board attended. However, Keltie Jones did not attend Don’s party.

  57. Anonymous

    “Any personal attack toward Don will be looked at as “uncivil.” Don’s op-ed has set the stage for that. He’s very clever actually.”

    Don Saylor’s public record is replete with prevarication, obfuscation , hypocricy and choosing personal political ambition over representing the interests of the Davis voter. His record speaks for itself and should be constinuously put before the voters during the upcoming campaign. This should be sufficient to defeat Saylor’s reelection bid in the face of his attempt at a political “extreme make-over”. Davis voters are not THAT gullible.

  58. Anonymous

    “Any personal attack toward Don will be looked at as “uncivil.” Don’s op-ed has set the stage for that. He’s very clever actually.”

    Don Saylor’s public record is replete with prevarication, obfuscation , hypocricy and choosing personal political ambition over representing the interests of the Davis voter. His record speaks for itself and should be constinuously put before the voters during the upcoming campaign. This should be sufficient to defeat Saylor’s reelection bid in the face of his attempt at a political “extreme make-over”. Davis voters are not THAT gullible.

  59. Anonymous

    “Any personal attack toward Don will be looked at as “uncivil.” Don’s op-ed has set the stage for that. He’s very clever actually.”

    Don Saylor’s public record is replete with prevarication, obfuscation , hypocricy and choosing personal political ambition over representing the interests of the Davis voter. His record speaks for itself and should be constinuously put before the voters during the upcoming campaign. This should be sufficient to defeat Saylor’s reelection bid in the face of his attempt at a political “extreme make-over”. Davis voters are not THAT gullible.

  60. Anonymous

    “Any personal attack toward Don will be looked at as “uncivil.” Don’s op-ed has set the stage for that. He’s very clever actually.”

    Don Saylor’s public record is replete with prevarication, obfuscation , hypocricy and choosing personal political ambition over representing the interests of the Davis voter. His record speaks for itself and should be constinuously put before the voters during the upcoming campaign. This should be sufficient to defeat Saylor’s reelection bid in the face of his attempt at a political “extreme make-over”. Davis voters are not THAT gullible.

  61. Anonymous

    I was surprised to hear that she attended since she does not particularly care for him. Glad it was clarified but was it a tiny space. She’s got too much class to be associated with Saylor.

  62. Anonymous

    I was surprised to hear that she attended since she does not particularly care for him. Glad it was clarified but was it a tiny space. She’s got too much class to be associated with Saylor.

  63. Anonymous

    I was surprised to hear that she attended since she does not particularly care for him. Glad it was clarified but was it a tiny space. She’s got too much class to be associated with Saylor.

  64. Anonymous

    I was surprised to hear that she attended since she does not particularly care for him. Glad it was clarified but was it a tiny space. She’s got too much class to be associated with Saylor.

  65. Matt Rexroad

    “All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway.”

    First, Saylor endorsed Sieferman.

    Second, How in the world do I benefit from supporting Don Saylor? The answer is that I won’t benefit in any way.

    Wait a minute! You actually think I was serious about my future goal of running for the Davis City Council. If you believed that please call me. I have a toad tunnel to sell you.

    Matt Rexroad
    (530) 662-5184

    P.S. Like Rich I’m hesitant to endorse people in Davis because it might not help them. I have even offered to endorse opponents in the past. In this case I may actually just be getting even with Saylor for endorsing Sieferman. I will leave it up to you to decide.

  66. Matt Rexroad

    “All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway.”

    First, Saylor endorsed Sieferman.

    Second, How in the world do I benefit from supporting Don Saylor? The answer is that I won’t benefit in any way.

    Wait a minute! You actually think I was serious about my future goal of running for the Davis City Council. If you believed that please call me. I have a toad tunnel to sell you.

    Matt Rexroad
    (530) 662-5184

    P.S. Like Rich I’m hesitant to endorse people in Davis because it might not help them. I have even offered to endorse opponents in the past. In this case I may actually just be getting even with Saylor for endorsing Sieferman. I will leave it up to you to decide.

  67. Matt Rexroad

    “All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway.”

    First, Saylor endorsed Sieferman.

    Second, How in the world do I benefit from supporting Don Saylor? The answer is that I won’t benefit in any way.

    Wait a minute! You actually think I was serious about my future goal of running for the Davis City Council. If you believed that please call me. I have a toad tunnel to sell you.

    Matt Rexroad
    (530) 662-5184

    P.S. Like Rich I’m hesitant to endorse people in Davis because it might not help them. I have even offered to endorse opponents in the past. In this case I may actually just be getting even with Saylor for endorsing Sieferman. I will leave it up to you to decide.

  68. Matt Rexroad

    “All of the politicos mentioned in the article in attendance at his party are people he has endorsed and has been present at their own announcements or will benefit in someway.”

    First, Saylor endorsed Sieferman.

    Second, How in the world do I benefit from supporting Don Saylor? The answer is that I won’t benefit in any way.

    Wait a minute! You actually think I was serious about my future goal of running for the Davis City Council. If you believed that please call me. I have a toad tunnel to sell you.

    Matt Rexroad
    (530) 662-5184

    P.S. Like Rich I’m hesitant to endorse people in Davis because it might not help them. I have even offered to endorse opponents in the past. In this case I may actually just be getting even with Saylor for endorsing Sieferman. I will leave it up to you to decide.

  69. Anonymous

    Rexroad says:
    “Second, How in the world do I benefit from supporting Don Saylor?”

    Rexroad’s future success in running for higher political office will depend on his ability to attract Democrats who are really closet Republicans. He’s on the right track to be trolling for future support in the Saylor camp.

  70. Anonymous

    Rexroad says:
    “Second, How in the world do I benefit from supporting Don Saylor?”

    Rexroad’s future success in running for higher political office will depend on his ability to attract Democrats who are really closet Republicans. He’s on the right track to be trolling for future support in the Saylor camp.

  71. Anonymous

    Rexroad says:
    “Second, How in the world do I benefit from supporting Don Saylor?”

    Rexroad’s future success in running for higher political office will depend on his ability to attract Democrats who are really closet Republicans. He’s on the right track to be trolling for future support in the Saylor camp.

  72. Anonymous

    Rexroad says:
    “Second, How in the world do I benefit from supporting Don Saylor?”

    Rexroad’s future success in running for higher political office will depend on his ability to attract Democrats who are really closet Republicans. He’s on the right track to be trolling for future support in the Saylor camp.

  73. 無名 - wu ming

    you know, matt, making appearances at the davis farmer’s market is part of politicking in this town. i’ll bet you’re just playing coy. first KDVS, then the co-op ballot, then the farmer’s market and now saylor…

  74. 無名 - wu ming

    you know, matt, making appearances at the davis farmer’s market is part of politicking in this town. i’ll bet you’re just playing coy. first KDVS, then the co-op ballot, then the farmer’s market and now saylor…

  75. 無名 - wu ming

    you know, matt, making appearances at the davis farmer’s market is part of politicking in this town. i’ll bet you’re just playing coy. first KDVS, then the co-op ballot, then the farmer’s market and now saylor…

  76. 無名 - wu ming

    you know, matt, making appearances at the davis farmer’s market is part of politicking in this town. i’ll bet you’re just playing coy. first KDVS, then the co-op ballot, then the farmer’s market and now saylor…

  77. Anonymous

    Saylor and Rexroad – peas in a pod – a small, phone booth shaped pod that kids are stored in when attending class at CYA under
    “Herr Saylor’s” tutelage and leadership. *shudder*. I hope for our sakes here in Davis that Matt DOES endorse Saylor.

  78. Anonymous

    Saylor and Rexroad – peas in a pod – a small, phone booth shaped pod that kids are stored in when attending class at CYA under
    “Herr Saylor’s” tutelage and leadership. *shudder*. I hope for our sakes here in Davis that Matt DOES endorse Saylor.

  79. Anonymous

    Saylor and Rexroad – peas in a pod – a small, phone booth shaped pod that kids are stored in when attending class at CYA under
    “Herr Saylor’s” tutelage and leadership. *shudder*. I hope for our sakes here in Davis that Matt DOES endorse Saylor.

  80. Anonymous

    Saylor and Rexroad – peas in a pod – a small, phone booth shaped pod that kids are stored in when attending class at CYA under
    “Herr Saylor’s” tutelage and leadership. *shudder*. I hope for our sakes here in Davis that Matt DOES endorse Saylor.

  81. Anonymous

    It’s like this:

    Rexroad ran against Sieferman last year. Sieferman’s campaign was run by Kingsley Melton who is the son of Barry Melton and the employee of Craig Reynolds.

    Barry Melton played music for Saylor at his party. Craig Reynolds has consulted on Saylor’s campaigns.

    The common link here are the Meltons and Craig Reynolds.

  82. Anonymous

    It’s like this:

    Rexroad ran against Sieferman last year. Sieferman’s campaign was run by Kingsley Melton who is the son of Barry Melton and the employee of Craig Reynolds.

    Barry Melton played music for Saylor at his party. Craig Reynolds has consulted on Saylor’s campaigns.

    The common link here are the Meltons and Craig Reynolds.

  83. Anonymous

    It’s like this:

    Rexroad ran against Sieferman last year. Sieferman’s campaign was run by Kingsley Melton who is the son of Barry Melton and the employee of Craig Reynolds.

    Barry Melton played music for Saylor at his party. Craig Reynolds has consulted on Saylor’s campaigns.

    The common link here are the Meltons and Craig Reynolds.

  84. Anonymous

    It’s like this:

    Rexroad ran against Sieferman last year. Sieferman’s campaign was run by Kingsley Melton who is the son of Barry Melton and the employee of Craig Reynolds.

    Barry Melton played music for Saylor at his party. Craig Reynolds has consulted on Saylor’s campaigns.

    The common link here are the Meltons and Craig Reynolds.

  85. Lynn C.

    Saylor, Souza and Levy. Oh boy! That’s 6 faces between the 3 of ’em. Are they going to have a check box next to each one of their faces?

  86. Lynn C.

    Saylor, Souza and Levy. Oh boy! That’s 6 faces between the 3 of ’em. Are they going to have a check box next to each one of their faces?

  87. Lynn C.

    Saylor, Souza and Levy. Oh boy! That’s 6 faces between the 3 of ’em. Are they going to have a check box next to each one of their faces?

  88. Lynn C.

    Saylor, Souza and Levy. Oh boy! That’s 6 faces between the 3 of ’em. Are they going to have a check box next to each one of their faces?

  89. Anonymous

    When I read the “civility in public discourse” pap in the Enterprise campaign brochure, I thought that Saylor should start with his wife. Remember that over-the-top nasty letter to the editor Julie Saylor wrote about Lamar Heystek in the last election? I’m sure that will be mentioned during this campaign, as will his CYA activities — which have never really been explored publically. During Saylor’s first run for the Council, there was a growing number of stories in the Sacrameno Bee about problems and investigations at the CYA. Shortly before the election — might have been the day before, if memory serves — the Enterprise ran a page-one, single source (Saylor) story seemingly out of the blue with Saylor explaining and spinning his tenture there away from this litany of CYA problems. I asked around about this, and it seems that the story might have been a respose to a rumor that the Bee was going to uncork a big investgative piece on the CYA the next day, and the Saylor campaign, including the Enterprise, was trying to get out ahead of it.

    I have been observing this fellow for more than 10 years, and he is a canny, smooth-talking sleaze.

  90. Anonymous

    When I read the “civility in public discourse” pap in the Enterprise campaign brochure, I thought that Saylor should start with his wife. Remember that over-the-top nasty letter to the editor Julie Saylor wrote about Lamar Heystek in the last election? I’m sure that will be mentioned during this campaign, as will his CYA activities — which have never really been explored publically. During Saylor’s first run for the Council, there was a growing number of stories in the Sacrameno Bee about problems and investigations at the CYA. Shortly before the election — might have been the day before, if memory serves — the Enterprise ran a page-one, single source (Saylor) story seemingly out of the blue with Saylor explaining and spinning his tenture there away from this litany of CYA problems. I asked around about this, and it seems that the story might have been a respose to a rumor that the Bee was going to uncork a big investgative piece on the CYA the next day, and the Saylor campaign, including the Enterprise, was trying to get out ahead of it.

    I have been observing this fellow for more than 10 years, and he is a canny, smooth-talking sleaze.

  91. Anonymous

    When I read the “civility in public discourse” pap in the Enterprise campaign brochure, I thought that Saylor should start with his wife. Remember that over-the-top nasty letter to the editor Julie Saylor wrote about Lamar Heystek in the last election? I’m sure that will be mentioned during this campaign, as will his CYA activities — which have never really been explored publically. During Saylor’s first run for the Council, there was a growing number of stories in the Sacrameno Bee about problems and investigations at the CYA. Shortly before the election — might have been the day before, if memory serves — the Enterprise ran a page-one, single source (Saylor) story seemingly out of the blue with Saylor explaining and spinning his tenture there away from this litany of CYA problems. I asked around about this, and it seems that the story might have been a respose to a rumor that the Bee was going to uncork a big investgative piece on the CYA the next day, and the Saylor campaign, including the Enterprise, was trying to get out ahead of it.

    I have been observing this fellow for more than 10 years, and he is a canny, smooth-talking sleaze.

  92. Anonymous

    When I read the “civility in public discourse” pap in the Enterprise campaign brochure, I thought that Saylor should start with his wife. Remember that over-the-top nasty letter to the editor Julie Saylor wrote about Lamar Heystek in the last election? I’m sure that will be mentioned during this campaign, as will his CYA activities — which have never really been explored publically. During Saylor’s first run for the Council, there was a growing number of stories in the Sacrameno Bee about problems and investigations at the CYA. Shortly before the election — might have been the day before, if memory serves — the Enterprise ran a page-one, single source (Saylor) story seemingly out of the blue with Saylor explaining and spinning his tenture there away from this litany of CYA problems. I asked around about this, and it seems that the story might have been a respose to a rumor that the Bee was going to uncork a big investgative piece on the CYA the next day, and the Saylor campaign, including the Enterprise, was trying to get out ahead of it.

    I have been observing this fellow for more than 10 years, and he is a canny, smooth-talking sleaze.

  93. Anonymous

    Is it generally assumed that if you attend a party such as the one Saylor had (and assuming you are not there as a caterer or reporter), that you are a supporter of the candidate?

    Yes. There is no such thing as “attending, but not as an endorser.”

  94. Anonymous

    Is it generally assumed that if you attend a party such as the one Saylor had (and assuming you are not there as a caterer or reporter), that you are a supporter of the candidate?

    Yes. There is no such thing as “attending, but not as an endorser.”

  95. Anonymous

    Is it generally assumed that if you attend a party such as the one Saylor had (and assuming you are not there as a caterer or reporter), that you are a supporter of the candidate?

    Yes. There is no such thing as “attending, but not as an endorser.”

  96. Anonymous

    Is it generally assumed that if you attend a party such as the one Saylor had (and assuming you are not there as a caterer or reporter), that you are a supporter of the candidate?

    Yes. There is no such thing as “attending, but not as an endorser.”

  97. Anonymous

    I think everyone who is angry about the enterprise, new homes and whatever else seems to upset you. Should move to Sacramento like Richard Estes.

  98. Anonymous

    I think everyone who is angry about the enterprise, new homes and whatever else seems to upset you. Should move to Sacramento like Richard Estes.

  99. Anonymous

    I think everyone who is angry about the enterprise, new homes and whatever else seems to upset you. Should move to Sacramento like Richard Estes.

  100. Anonymous

    I think everyone who is angry about the enterprise, new homes and whatever else seems to upset you. Should move to Sacramento like Richard Estes.

  101. Anonymous

    Can’t stand phonies like Saylor the Jailer.

    You should have seen him at the Environmental Forum prior to the Council election he was in. He had a conspicuous Nalgene camping bottle propped in front of him. When his turn to answer came, (despite having 7 or 8 others to listen to) he made everyone watch while he unscrewed the stupid bottle and took a long thoughtful slug. Then, regardless of the question, he repeated the same monotone about being reared in the Powder River Basin, Wyoming and how this taught him about the environment.

    The same day the Empty ran its Saylor puff piece reporting what sort of puff pastries the guests ate and which Yolocrats were at the soiree, the lesser headline noted Saylor’s Wyoming as being the worst global polluter per capita. Not that I hold Saylor or Shooter Cheney personally responsible, but….I can’t stand the thought of that smarmy Saylor knocking over half of 3rd street and simultaneously claiming ownership of the term sustainability and environmental stewardship.

    Somebody should ask him how much stewardship he’s shown in getting the city’s solar water heaters replaced at Community Park. He’ll make all sorts of empty platitude statements about Davis’s green image but can’t be bothered to champion even a simple project to restore genuine function and value to a defective eyesore.

  102. Anonymous

    Can’t stand phonies like Saylor the Jailer.

    You should have seen him at the Environmental Forum prior to the Council election he was in. He had a conspicuous Nalgene camping bottle propped in front of him. When his turn to answer came, (despite having 7 or 8 others to listen to) he made everyone watch while he unscrewed the stupid bottle and took a long thoughtful slug. Then, regardless of the question, he repeated the same monotone about being reared in the Powder River Basin, Wyoming and how this taught him about the environment.

    The same day the Empty ran its Saylor puff piece reporting what sort of puff pastries the guests ate and which Yolocrats were at the soiree, the lesser headline noted Saylor’s Wyoming as being the worst global polluter per capita. Not that I hold Saylor or Shooter Cheney personally responsible, but….I can’t stand the thought of that smarmy Saylor knocking over half of 3rd street and simultaneously claiming ownership of the term sustainability and environmental stewardship.

    Somebody should ask him how much stewardship he’s shown in getting the city’s solar water heaters replaced at Community Park. He’ll make all sorts of empty platitude statements about Davis’s green image but can’t be bothered to champion even a simple project to restore genuine function and value to a defective eyesore.

  103. Anonymous

    Can’t stand phonies like Saylor the Jailer.

    You should have seen him at the Environmental Forum prior to the Council election he was in. He had a conspicuous Nalgene camping bottle propped in front of him. When his turn to answer came, (despite having 7 or 8 others to listen to) he made everyone watch while he unscrewed the stupid bottle and took a long thoughtful slug. Then, regardless of the question, he repeated the same monotone about being reared in the Powder River Basin, Wyoming and how this taught him about the environment.

    The same day the Empty ran its Saylor puff piece reporting what sort of puff pastries the guests ate and which Yolocrats were at the soiree, the lesser headline noted Saylor’s Wyoming as being the worst global polluter per capita. Not that I hold Saylor or Shooter Cheney personally responsible, but….I can’t stand the thought of that smarmy Saylor knocking over half of 3rd street and simultaneously claiming ownership of the term sustainability and environmental stewardship.

    Somebody should ask him how much stewardship he’s shown in getting the city’s solar water heaters replaced at Community Park. He’ll make all sorts of empty platitude statements about Davis’s green image but can’t be bothered to champion even a simple project to restore genuine function and value to a defective eyesore.

  104. Anonymous

    Can’t stand phonies like Saylor the Jailer.

    You should have seen him at the Environmental Forum prior to the Council election he was in. He had a conspicuous Nalgene camping bottle propped in front of him. When his turn to answer came, (despite having 7 or 8 others to listen to) he made everyone watch while he unscrewed the stupid bottle and took a long thoughtful slug. Then, regardless of the question, he repeated the same monotone about being reared in the Powder River Basin, Wyoming and how this taught him about the environment.

    The same day the Empty ran its Saylor puff piece reporting what sort of puff pastries the guests ate and which Yolocrats were at the soiree, the lesser headline noted Saylor’s Wyoming as being the worst global polluter per capita. Not that I hold Saylor or Shooter Cheney personally responsible, but….I can’t stand the thought of that smarmy Saylor knocking over half of 3rd street and simultaneously claiming ownership of the term sustainability and environmental stewardship.

    Somebody should ask him how much stewardship he’s shown in getting the city’s solar water heaters replaced at Community Park. He’ll make all sorts of empty platitude statements about Davis’s green image but can’t be bothered to champion even a simple project to restore genuine function and value to a defective eyesore.

  105. Mary

    In any other town these so called Democrats would be Republicans. That goes for Saylor, Craig Reynolds, and their cronies.

    They put the name (Democrat) to shame.

  106. Mary

    In any other town these so called Democrats would be Republicans. That goes for Saylor, Craig Reynolds, and their cronies.

    They put the name (Democrat) to shame.

  107. Mary

    In any other town these so called Democrats would be Republicans. That goes for Saylor, Craig Reynolds, and their cronies.

    They put the name (Democrat) to shame.

  108. Mary

    In any other town these so called Democrats would be Republicans. That goes for Saylor, Craig Reynolds, and their cronies.

    They put the name (Democrat) to shame.

  109. Anonymous

    why? what is inauthentic about Wyoming? What background is considered an “authentic” background? You sound like the people who say you have to live in Davis 10 years before you have any street cred. DPD, this blog has sunk to a new low of name calling and bad math. There is no real discourse happening here.

  110. Anonymous

    why? what is inauthentic about Wyoming? What background is considered an “authentic” background? You sound like the people who say you have to live in Davis 10 years before you have any street cred. DPD, this blog has sunk to a new low of name calling and bad math. There is no real discourse happening here.

  111. Anonymous

    why? what is inauthentic about Wyoming? What background is considered an “authentic” background? You sound like the people who say you have to live in Davis 10 years before you have any street cred. DPD, this blog has sunk to a new low of name calling and bad math. There is no real discourse happening here.

  112. Anonymous

    why? what is inauthentic about Wyoming? What background is considered an “authentic” background? You sound like the people who say you have to live in Davis 10 years before you have any street cred. DPD, this blog has sunk to a new low of name calling and bad math. There is no real discourse happening here.

  113. Anonymous

    “Might not some, or many of the people in attendance just be curious folks who thought it looked like an enjoyable event?”

    Attendees(sans journalists) are either Players or their Groupies.

  114. Anonymous

    “Might not some, or many of the people in attendance just be curious folks who thought it looked like an enjoyable event?”

    Attendees(sans journalists) are either Players or their Groupies.

  115. Anonymous

    “Might not some, or many of the people in attendance just be curious folks who thought it looked like an enjoyable event?”

    Attendees(sans journalists) are either Players or their Groupies.

  116. Anonymous

    “Might not some, or many of the people in attendance just be curious folks who thought it looked like an enjoyable event?”

    Attendees(sans journalists) are either Players or their Groupies.

  117. Doug Paul Davis

    “this blog has sunk to a new low of name calling and bad math. There is no real discourse happening here.”

    Saylor seems to be a polarizing figure, but I think the best way to improve the discourse is to make a non-passionate counter-argument and people tend to follow suit. The shorter the posts, the less civility and discourse.

    I don’t know how it works in other places, but people seem to need roots in most communities in order to have “street cred.” I don’t know that Davis is unique in that perception.

  118. Doug Paul Davis

    “this blog has sunk to a new low of name calling and bad math. There is no real discourse happening here.”

    Saylor seems to be a polarizing figure, but I think the best way to improve the discourse is to make a non-passionate counter-argument and people tend to follow suit. The shorter the posts, the less civility and discourse.

    I don’t know how it works in other places, but people seem to need roots in most communities in order to have “street cred.” I don’t know that Davis is unique in that perception.

  119. Doug Paul Davis

    “this blog has sunk to a new low of name calling and bad math. There is no real discourse happening here.”

    Saylor seems to be a polarizing figure, but I think the best way to improve the discourse is to make a non-passionate counter-argument and people tend to follow suit. The shorter the posts, the less civility and discourse.

    I don’t know how it works in other places, but people seem to need roots in most communities in order to have “street cred.” I don’t know that Davis is unique in that perception.

  120. Doug Paul Davis

    “this blog has sunk to a new low of name calling and bad math. There is no real discourse happening here.”

    Saylor seems to be a polarizing figure, but I think the best way to improve the discourse is to make a non-passionate counter-argument and people tend to follow suit. The shorter the posts, the less civility and discourse.

    I don’t know how it works in other places, but people seem to need roots in most communities in order to have “street cred.” I don’t know that Davis is unique in that perception.

  121. Doug Paul Davis

    BTW, for what ever it is worth, I know a number of people who attended who will not be supporting Saylor, they wanted to see who was there and here what Saylor had to say.

  122. Doug Paul Davis

    BTW, for what ever it is worth, I know a number of people who attended who will not be supporting Saylor, they wanted to see who was there and here what Saylor had to say.

  123. Doug Paul Davis

    BTW, for what ever it is worth, I know a number of people who attended who will not be supporting Saylor, they wanted to see who was there and here what Saylor had to say.

  124. Doug Paul Davis

    BTW, for what ever it is worth, I know a number of people who attended who will not be supporting Saylor, they wanted to see who was there and here what Saylor had to say.

  125. Anonymous

    Candidate Saylor leaves the voter with the distinctly uneasy feeling of being in the dark as to what makes him tick. Perhaps he can deal with this during his reelection campaign.

  126. Anonymous

    Candidate Saylor leaves the voter with the distinctly uneasy feeling of being in the dark as to what makes him tick. Perhaps he can deal with this during his reelection campaign.

  127. Anonymous

    Candidate Saylor leaves the voter with the distinctly uneasy feeling of being in the dark as to what makes him tick. Perhaps he can deal with this during his reelection campaign.

  128. Anonymous

    Candidate Saylor leaves the voter with the distinctly uneasy feeling of being in the dark as to what makes him tick. Perhaps he can deal with this during his reelection campaign.

  129. Anonymous

    I still don’t get what is supposed to be wrong with being from Wyoming? What did that poster mean? Is this some kind of special Davis knowledge?

  130. Anonymous

    I still don’t get what is supposed to be wrong with being from Wyoming? What did that poster mean? Is this some kind of special Davis knowledge?

  131. Anonymous

    I still don’t get what is supposed to be wrong with being from Wyoming? What did that poster mean? Is this some kind of special Davis knowledge?

  132. Anonymous

    I still don’t get what is supposed to be wrong with being from Wyoming? What did that poster mean? Is this some kind of special Davis knowledge?

  133. Doug Paul Davis

    My interpretation of that statement and I did not make it and do not know who did, was that it was implying that he had some record in Wyoming that was of concern, rather than being from Wyoming was a bad thing. I don’t know what they are referring to, but that is my interpretation.

  134. Doug Paul Davis

    My interpretation of that statement and I did not make it and do not know who did, was that it was implying that he had some record in Wyoming that was of concern, rather than being from Wyoming was a bad thing. I don’t know what they are referring to, but that is my interpretation.

  135. Doug Paul Davis

    My interpretation of that statement and I did not make it and do not know who did, was that it was implying that he had some record in Wyoming that was of concern, rather than being from Wyoming was a bad thing. I don’t know what they are referring to, but that is my interpretation.

  136. Doug Paul Davis

    My interpretation of that statement and I did not make it and do not know who did, was that it was implying that he had some record in Wyoming that was of concern, rather than being from Wyoming was a bad thing. I don’t know what they are referring to, but that is my interpretation.

  137. davisite

    Thinking back of Council candidates over the years, Wagstaff, Partansky, Sue Greenwald, – Susie Boyd, Ruth Asmundson, Ted Puntillo -each had a
    personal narrative that, over time, gave us a good idea who they really WERE. Perhaps this is the essense of “street cred”.

  138. davisite

    Thinking back of Council candidates over the years, Wagstaff, Partansky, Sue Greenwald, – Susie Boyd, Ruth Asmundson, Ted Puntillo -each had a
    personal narrative that, over time, gave us a good idea who they really WERE. Perhaps this is the essense of “street cred”.

  139. davisite

    Thinking back of Council candidates over the years, Wagstaff, Partansky, Sue Greenwald, – Susie Boyd, Ruth Asmundson, Ted Puntillo -each had a
    personal narrative that, over time, gave us a good idea who they really WERE. Perhaps this is the essense of “street cred”.

  140. davisite

    Thinking back of Council candidates over the years, Wagstaff, Partansky, Sue Greenwald, – Susie Boyd, Ruth Asmundson, Ted Puntillo -each had a
    personal narrative that, over time, gave us a good idea who they really WERE. Perhaps this is the essense of “street cred”.

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