Commentary: Signs, Signs, Everywhere are Signs

Last week, Rich Rifkin wrote a piece on political signs. It was an interesting piece that covered a key aspect–the visibility and effectiveness of signs. And while it misses out on a key point about brand identification, the issue of readability and clarity of signs is an important one.

However, for my money, the key issue is where signs are located–on whose property and who are these people. That tells us who and what types of interests are backing the various candidates.

An interesting tidbit is that if you drive around Davis, you will find many Judge Fall signs, but very few if any James Walker for Judge signs. Judge Tim Fall is an incumbent who is being challenged by James Walker for the Judgeship. While the Judge is a Republican, he is viewed as more moderate that James Walker. If you leave Davis and go up north towards Woodland, you see an increasing number of James Walker signs. What looks like a landslide from the aspect of Davis, look much closer as you head to the north.

Speaking of telling signs, as you head out of Davis on Lake and toward County Road 99, you see a big huge Mariko Yamada sign on the corner of County Road 99 and County Road 31 (Covell Blvd). There is another one near the hospital.

What is telling about these sign locations, is who owns that land. Because that is the Northwest Quadrant. The Northwest Quadrant including Oeste Ranch were the subject of a political battle last year as the county, led by County Supervisor Mariko Yamada, pushed for development in the Northwest Quadrant. The owners of some of that land are now backing Mariko Yamada in her race for State Assembly. That cannot be a coincidence, can it?

More locally, as you go around town you see on virtually every apartment complex signs for Souza, Saylor, and Vergis. Stephen Souza probably has the most on these properties, but Don Saylor and Sydney Vergis are right on his heels. Many of these properties are owned by Tandem Properties, the property management company owned by John Whitcombe of the Covell Village fame. But it is not just Tandem Properties that is backing the developer trio. All the major property owners are. Not that there is anything wrong with that, right?

—Doug Paul Davis reporting

About The Author

David Greenwald is the founder, editor, and executive director of the Davis Vanguard. He founded the Vanguard in 2006. David Greenwald moved to Davis in 1996 to attend Graduate School at UC Davis in Political Science. He lives in South Davis with his wife Cecilia Escamilla Greenwald and three children.

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192 Comments

  1. Anonymous

    Yes, that sign is in the Northwest Quadrant, but not on Oeste Ranch. The sign is on a property owned by a Sacramento developer. That developer’s wife owns a magazine named “Senses” which occupies the prime advertising spot on your blog. How much is that developer paying you for advertising? Is your wife, who is running for City Council, and not accepting developer contributions, aware of this connection? Are you sharing this money with her? Senses Magazine has offices internationally but none in Davis. It is knid of an odd forum for the magazine to be advertising in- must be some other benefits for the owners of the magazine.

  2. Anonymous

    Yes, that sign is in the Northwest Quadrant, but not on Oeste Ranch. The sign is on a property owned by a Sacramento developer. That developer’s wife owns a magazine named “Senses” which occupies the prime advertising spot on your blog. How much is that developer paying you for advertising? Is your wife, who is running for City Council, and not accepting developer contributions, aware of this connection? Are you sharing this money with her? Senses Magazine has offices internationally but none in Davis. It is knid of an odd forum for the magazine to be advertising in- must be some other benefits for the owners of the magazine.

  3. Anonymous

    Yes, that sign is in the Northwest Quadrant, but not on Oeste Ranch. The sign is on a property owned by a Sacramento developer. That developer’s wife owns a magazine named “Senses” which occupies the prime advertising spot on your blog. How much is that developer paying you for advertising? Is your wife, who is running for City Council, and not accepting developer contributions, aware of this connection? Are you sharing this money with her? Senses Magazine has offices internationally but none in Davis. It is knid of an odd forum for the magazine to be advertising in- must be some other benefits for the owners of the magazine.

  4. Anonymous

    Yes, that sign is in the Northwest Quadrant, but not on Oeste Ranch. The sign is on a property owned by a Sacramento developer. That developer’s wife owns a magazine named “Senses” which occupies the prime advertising spot on your blog. How much is that developer paying you for advertising? Is your wife, who is running for City Council, and not accepting developer contributions, aware of this connection? Are you sharing this money with her? Senses Magazine has offices internationally but none in Davis. It is knid of an odd forum for the magazine to be advertising in- must be some other benefits for the owners of the magazine.

  5. Anonymous

    Some signs are placed where they have greatest visibility, within the public right of way, regardless of it they are allowed to or not. The Yamada signs on the ‘Oeste Ranch’ area are a case in point. They are actually in the public right of way and not on the developers property. Remember, some people don’t ask permission.

  6. Anonymous

    Some signs are placed where they have greatest visibility, within the public right of way, regardless of it they are allowed to or not. The Yamada signs on the ‘Oeste Ranch’ area are a case in point. They are actually in the public right of way and not on the developers property. Remember, some people don’t ask permission.

  7. Anonymous

    Some signs are placed where they have greatest visibility, within the public right of way, regardless of it they are allowed to or not. The Yamada signs on the ‘Oeste Ranch’ area are a case in point. They are actually in the public right of way and not on the developers property. Remember, some people don’t ask permission.

  8. Anonymous

    Some signs are placed where they have greatest visibility, within the public right of way, regardless of it they are allowed to or not. The Yamada signs on the ‘Oeste Ranch’ area are a case in point. They are actually in the public right of way and not on the developers property. Remember, some people don’t ask permission.

  9. Rob Roy

    Is there anything wrong with the apartment complex putting up political signs in the common area? I am not opposed to it, however, if a tenant argued that their rent covered use of the common area and wanted to put up one of my signs I’m sure management would say no. I am opposed to landlords of houses and duplexes putting up signs in their tenant’s yard – which I have seen done by the development candidates.

    There is no moral or legal problem with Tandem Properties supporting Saylor/Souza/Vergis but the tenants that go past those signs everyday should no the implications of that support. When Enron’s Ken Lay gave all that support to George Bush do we think he didn’t want anything in return? If we complain about the presidential administration being in the war-profiteers pocket then we must bring that logic locally to the pocket of the property management and development. Judging from the signs on the apartment lawns, I think we know who is in that pocket. So if you want peace you don’t vote for the war profiteers candidate and if you want tenant’s right you don’t for the development candidate.

  10. Rob Roy

    Is there anything wrong with the apartment complex putting up political signs in the common area? I am not opposed to it, however, if a tenant argued that their rent covered use of the common area and wanted to put up one of my signs I’m sure management would say no. I am opposed to landlords of houses and duplexes putting up signs in their tenant’s yard – which I have seen done by the development candidates.

    There is no moral or legal problem with Tandem Properties supporting Saylor/Souza/Vergis but the tenants that go past those signs everyday should no the implications of that support. When Enron’s Ken Lay gave all that support to George Bush do we think he didn’t want anything in return? If we complain about the presidential administration being in the war-profiteers pocket then we must bring that logic locally to the pocket of the property management and development. Judging from the signs on the apartment lawns, I think we know who is in that pocket. So if you want peace you don’t vote for the war profiteers candidate and if you want tenant’s right you don’t for the development candidate.

  11. Rob Roy

    Is there anything wrong with the apartment complex putting up political signs in the common area? I am not opposed to it, however, if a tenant argued that their rent covered use of the common area and wanted to put up one of my signs I’m sure management would say no. I am opposed to landlords of houses and duplexes putting up signs in their tenant’s yard – which I have seen done by the development candidates.

    There is no moral or legal problem with Tandem Properties supporting Saylor/Souza/Vergis but the tenants that go past those signs everyday should no the implications of that support. When Enron’s Ken Lay gave all that support to George Bush do we think he didn’t want anything in return? If we complain about the presidential administration being in the war-profiteers pocket then we must bring that logic locally to the pocket of the property management and development. Judging from the signs on the apartment lawns, I think we know who is in that pocket. So if you want peace you don’t vote for the war profiteers candidate and if you want tenant’s right you don’t for the development candidate.

  12. Rob Roy

    Is there anything wrong with the apartment complex putting up political signs in the common area? I am not opposed to it, however, if a tenant argued that their rent covered use of the common area and wanted to put up one of my signs I’m sure management would say no. I am opposed to landlords of houses and duplexes putting up signs in their tenant’s yard – which I have seen done by the development candidates.

    There is no moral or legal problem with Tandem Properties supporting Saylor/Souza/Vergis but the tenants that go past those signs everyday should no the implications of that support. When Enron’s Ken Lay gave all that support to George Bush do we think he didn’t want anything in return? If we complain about the presidential administration being in the war-profiteers pocket then we must bring that logic locally to the pocket of the property management and development. Judging from the signs on the apartment lawns, I think we know who is in that pocket. So if you want peace you don’t vote for the war profiteers candidate and if you want tenant’s right you don’t for the development candidate.

  13. Mike Adams

    I would appreciate a link on the blog that disclosed any and all possible conflicts of interests – covering advertisers, contributors (I am one, I think this blog is a valuable community resource), and obviously relationships. Presently there is no easy to get to that info – it is embedded in blog entries and responses, and not indexed as far as I can see. I think it would be valuable to set the standard for disclosure.

  14. Mike Adams

    I would appreciate a link on the blog that disclosed any and all possible conflicts of interests – covering advertisers, contributors (I am one, I think this blog is a valuable community resource), and obviously relationships. Presently there is no easy to get to that info – it is embedded in blog entries and responses, and not indexed as far as I can see. I think it would be valuable to set the standard for disclosure.

  15. Mike Adams

    I would appreciate a link on the blog that disclosed any and all possible conflicts of interests – covering advertisers, contributors (I am one, I think this blog is a valuable community resource), and obviously relationships. Presently there is no easy to get to that info – it is embedded in blog entries and responses, and not indexed as far as I can see. I think it would be valuable to set the standard for disclosure.

  16. Mike Adams

    I would appreciate a link on the blog that disclosed any and all possible conflicts of interests – covering advertisers, contributors (I am one, I think this blog is a valuable community resource), and obviously relationships. Presently there is no easy to get to that info – it is embedded in blog entries and responses, and not indexed as far as I can see. I think it would be valuable to set the standard for disclosure.

  17. Anonymous

    You’ve gotta be kidding. I know Mariko and Christopher personally, and of the two, Christopher is definitely the more pro-development, if that’s your concern.

    Yeah, Mariko did support Oeste. Maybe she asked if they’d put up a sign for her. Maybe they offered to do it because they like her. People tend to like and support a politician who believes in their goals and ideas.

    Don’t worry DPD, I’m sure you’ll find some more random facts you can bundle together and frame into a grand conspiracy.

  18. Anonymous

    You’ve gotta be kidding. I know Mariko and Christopher personally, and of the two, Christopher is definitely the more pro-development, if that’s your concern.

    Yeah, Mariko did support Oeste. Maybe she asked if they’d put up a sign for her. Maybe they offered to do it because they like her. People tend to like and support a politician who believes in their goals and ideas.

    Don’t worry DPD, I’m sure you’ll find some more random facts you can bundle together and frame into a grand conspiracy.

  19. Anonymous

    You’ve gotta be kidding. I know Mariko and Christopher personally, and of the two, Christopher is definitely the more pro-development, if that’s your concern.

    Yeah, Mariko did support Oeste. Maybe she asked if they’d put up a sign for her. Maybe they offered to do it because they like her. People tend to like and support a politician who believes in their goals and ideas.

    Don’t worry DPD, I’m sure you’ll find some more random facts you can bundle together and frame into a grand conspiracy.

  20. Anonymous

    You’ve gotta be kidding. I know Mariko and Christopher personally, and of the two, Christopher is definitely the more pro-development, if that’s your concern.

    Yeah, Mariko did support Oeste. Maybe she asked if they’d put up a sign for her. Maybe they offered to do it because they like her. People tend to like and support a politician who believes in their goals and ideas.

    Don’t worry DPD, I’m sure you’ll find some more random facts you can bundle together and frame into a grand conspiracy.

  21. Rich Rifkin

    “I am opposed to landlords of houses and duplexes putting up signs in their tenant’s yard – which I have seen done by the development candidates.”

    When I was doing some background for my piece on signs*, I came across something funny (about which Rob Roy and I exchanged emails). There was a sign for Rob’s candidacy at a corner house not far from mine. It was, of course, hand made. However, it was clear in looking at it that the person who made it had used someone else’s lawn sign — I assumed it was from a prior campaign — and covered over all of the sign with craft paper save the part that said, “Davis City Council.” So as the sign appeared, it read, “Vote for Rob Roy for DAVIS CITY COUNCIL.”

    Rob then mentioned to me that a supporter of his, someone he did not know personally, had told him that she had covered over her landlord’s sign and made it into a “Rob Roy” sign.

    Literally ten minutes later, I saw that “Rob Roy” sign in my neighbor’s yard — but it had changed. Gone was the craft paper and the “Vote for Rob Roy” part of it. Now I could see that it was not an old sign at all. It was a current Don Saylor sign. Apparently, the woman who told Rob what she had done was my neighbor.

    I don’t know her, but I take it she and her roommates are renters. I guess the tenants support Rob and the landlord put up the Don Saylor sign and supports Don’s candidacy.

    Obviously no one should mar someone else’s sign, but it seems to me that if you rent a house, you and not the landlord should be the one who decides what signs are displayed. (It’s different with apartment building common areas, IMO.) It seems to me that if you rent a house, you control the message in the yard. Unless your political speech is patently offensive or is somehow damaging the property or your landlord is not renting the yard to you, but just the house, it is your right.

    * Some were confused by my critique of Sue Greenwald’s signs, because the Enterprise photo was of an old sign, and I critiqued her current signs. As such, my words didn’t seem to fit the picture. Sorry for any confusion, but that’s what happened.

  22. Rich Rifkin

    “I am opposed to landlords of houses and duplexes putting up signs in their tenant’s yard – which I have seen done by the development candidates.”

    When I was doing some background for my piece on signs*, I came across something funny (about which Rob Roy and I exchanged emails). There was a sign for Rob’s candidacy at a corner house not far from mine. It was, of course, hand made. However, it was clear in looking at it that the person who made it had used someone else’s lawn sign — I assumed it was from a prior campaign — and covered over all of the sign with craft paper save the part that said, “Davis City Council.” So as the sign appeared, it read, “Vote for Rob Roy for DAVIS CITY COUNCIL.”

    Rob then mentioned to me that a supporter of his, someone he did not know personally, had told him that she had covered over her landlord’s sign and made it into a “Rob Roy” sign.

    Literally ten minutes later, I saw that “Rob Roy” sign in my neighbor’s yard — but it had changed. Gone was the craft paper and the “Vote for Rob Roy” part of it. Now I could see that it was not an old sign at all. It was a current Don Saylor sign. Apparently, the woman who told Rob what she had done was my neighbor.

    I don’t know her, but I take it she and her roommates are renters. I guess the tenants support Rob and the landlord put up the Don Saylor sign and supports Don’s candidacy.

    Obviously no one should mar someone else’s sign, but it seems to me that if you rent a house, you and not the landlord should be the one who decides what signs are displayed. (It’s different with apartment building common areas, IMO.) It seems to me that if you rent a house, you control the message in the yard. Unless your political speech is patently offensive or is somehow damaging the property or your landlord is not renting the yard to you, but just the house, it is your right.

    * Some were confused by my critique of Sue Greenwald’s signs, because the Enterprise photo was of an old sign, and I critiqued her current signs. As such, my words didn’t seem to fit the picture. Sorry for any confusion, but that’s what happened.

  23. Rich Rifkin

    “I am opposed to landlords of houses and duplexes putting up signs in their tenant’s yard – which I have seen done by the development candidates.”

    When I was doing some background for my piece on signs*, I came across something funny (about which Rob Roy and I exchanged emails). There was a sign for Rob’s candidacy at a corner house not far from mine. It was, of course, hand made. However, it was clear in looking at it that the person who made it had used someone else’s lawn sign — I assumed it was from a prior campaign — and covered over all of the sign with craft paper save the part that said, “Davis City Council.” So as the sign appeared, it read, “Vote for Rob Roy for DAVIS CITY COUNCIL.”

    Rob then mentioned to me that a supporter of his, someone he did not know personally, had told him that she had covered over her landlord’s sign and made it into a “Rob Roy” sign.

    Literally ten minutes later, I saw that “Rob Roy” sign in my neighbor’s yard — but it had changed. Gone was the craft paper and the “Vote for Rob Roy” part of it. Now I could see that it was not an old sign at all. It was a current Don Saylor sign. Apparently, the woman who told Rob what she had done was my neighbor.

    I don’t know her, but I take it she and her roommates are renters. I guess the tenants support Rob and the landlord put up the Don Saylor sign and supports Don’s candidacy.

    Obviously no one should mar someone else’s sign, but it seems to me that if you rent a house, you and not the landlord should be the one who decides what signs are displayed. (It’s different with apartment building common areas, IMO.) It seems to me that if you rent a house, you control the message in the yard. Unless your political speech is patently offensive or is somehow damaging the property or your landlord is not renting the yard to you, but just the house, it is your right.

    * Some were confused by my critique of Sue Greenwald’s signs, because the Enterprise photo was of an old sign, and I critiqued her current signs. As such, my words didn’t seem to fit the picture. Sorry for any confusion, but that’s what happened.

  24. Rich Rifkin

    “I am opposed to landlords of houses and duplexes putting up signs in their tenant’s yard – which I have seen done by the development candidates.”

    When I was doing some background for my piece on signs*, I came across something funny (about which Rob Roy and I exchanged emails). There was a sign for Rob’s candidacy at a corner house not far from mine. It was, of course, hand made. However, it was clear in looking at it that the person who made it had used someone else’s lawn sign — I assumed it was from a prior campaign — and covered over all of the sign with craft paper save the part that said, “Davis City Council.” So as the sign appeared, it read, “Vote for Rob Roy for DAVIS CITY COUNCIL.”

    Rob then mentioned to me that a supporter of his, someone he did not know personally, had told him that she had covered over her landlord’s sign and made it into a “Rob Roy” sign.

    Literally ten minutes later, I saw that “Rob Roy” sign in my neighbor’s yard — but it had changed. Gone was the craft paper and the “Vote for Rob Roy” part of it. Now I could see that it was not an old sign at all. It was a current Don Saylor sign. Apparently, the woman who told Rob what she had done was my neighbor.

    I don’t know her, but I take it she and her roommates are renters. I guess the tenants support Rob and the landlord put up the Don Saylor sign and supports Don’s candidacy.

    Obviously no one should mar someone else’s sign, but it seems to me that if you rent a house, you and not the landlord should be the one who decides what signs are displayed. (It’s different with apartment building common areas, IMO.) It seems to me that if you rent a house, you control the message in the yard. Unless your political speech is patently offensive or is somehow damaging the property or your landlord is not renting the yard to you, but just the house, it is your right.

    * Some were confused by my critique of Sue Greenwald’s signs, because the Enterprise photo was of an old sign, and I critiqued her current signs. As such, my words didn’t seem to fit the picture. Sorry for any confusion, but that’s what happened.

  25. Anonymous

    Maybe, just maybe, all of those apartment owners and managers have Souza signs because he has been a dependable presence in their life for 20 years (both in our civic forums and servicing their pools)… he shows up, he does what he says he’s going to do… Maybe they want just like the idea of an honest, dependable and approachable voice on the council.

    But no, it couldn’t be that simple. Surely there is something darker under the fat belly to insinuate…

  26. Anonymous

    Maybe, just maybe, all of those apartment owners and managers have Souza signs because he has been a dependable presence in their life for 20 years (both in our civic forums and servicing their pools)… he shows up, he does what he says he’s going to do… Maybe they want just like the idea of an honest, dependable and approachable voice on the council.

    But no, it couldn’t be that simple. Surely there is something darker under the fat belly to insinuate…

  27. Anonymous

    Maybe, just maybe, all of those apartment owners and managers have Souza signs because he has been a dependable presence in their life for 20 years (both in our civic forums and servicing their pools)… he shows up, he does what he says he’s going to do… Maybe they want just like the idea of an honest, dependable and approachable voice on the council.

    But no, it couldn’t be that simple. Surely there is something darker under the fat belly to insinuate…

  28. Anonymous

    Maybe, just maybe, all of those apartment owners and managers have Souza signs because he has been a dependable presence in their life for 20 years (both in our civic forums and servicing their pools)… he shows up, he does what he says he’s going to do… Maybe they want just like the idea of an honest, dependable and approachable voice on the council.

    But no, it couldn’t be that simple. Surely there is something darker under the fat belly to insinuate…

  29. 無名 - wu ming

    if mariko is the real estate developer candidate in that race, then why is the california real estate independent expenditure committee throwing tens of thousands of dollars at her opponent, cabaldon, and giving nothing to yamada?

    one pattern i’ve noticed on downtown business lawns is the set of souza-saylor-greenwald, the all-incumbent ticket. granted, any downtown business endorsing souza and saylor, given their votes for target, need their heads examined just on grounds of self-interest alone, but there it is.

    lots of different combinations possible.

  30. 無名 - wu ming

    if mariko is the real estate developer candidate in that race, then why is the california real estate independent expenditure committee throwing tens of thousands of dollars at her opponent, cabaldon, and giving nothing to yamada?

    one pattern i’ve noticed on downtown business lawns is the set of souza-saylor-greenwald, the all-incumbent ticket. granted, any downtown business endorsing souza and saylor, given their votes for target, need their heads examined just on grounds of self-interest alone, but there it is.

    lots of different combinations possible.

  31. 無名 - wu ming

    if mariko is the real estate developer candidate in that race, then why is the california real estate independent expenditure committee throwing tens of thousands of dollars at her opponent, cabaldon, and giving nothing to yamada?

    one pattern i’ve noticed on downtown business lawns is the set of souza-saylor-greenwald, the all-incumbent ticket. granted, any downtown business endorsing souza and saylor, given their votes for target, need their heads examined just on grounds of self-interest alone, but there it is.

    lots of different combinations possible.

  32. 無名 - wu ming

    if mariko is the real estate developer candidate in that race, then why is the california real estate independent expenditure committee throwing tens of thousands of dollars at her opponent, cabaldon, and giving nothing to yamada?

    one pattern i’ve noticed on downtown business lawns is the set of souza-saylor-greenwald, the all-incumbent ticket. granted, any downtown business endorsing souza and saylor, given their votes for target, need their heads examined just on grounds of self-interest alone, but there it is.

    lots of different combinations possible.

  33. Rich Rifkin

    “any downtown business endorsing souza and saylor, given their votes for target, need their heads examined just on grounds of self-interest alone, but there it is.”

    There is another, simpler and smarter explanation: Target in East Mace Ranch is not going to negatively affect most downtown businesses. It won’t hurt any of the restaurants or coffee shops. It won’t hurt the real estate offices or the destination bookstores. It won’t hurt the movie theaters or ice cream parlors. It won’t hurt the high-end clothing shops and shoe stores. It won’t hurt the barber shops and beauty parlors….

    I don’t doubt that it will affect some businesses — particularly the home store of Davis Ace — and some could end up closing. But the downtown as a whole will go on just fine, as new proprietors take over for those who could not compete.

  34. Rich Rifkin

    “any downtown business endorsing souza and saylor, given their votes for target, need their heads examined just on grounds of self-interest alone, but there it is.”

    There is another, simpler and smarter explanation: Target in East Mace Ranch is not going to negatively affect most downtown businesses. It won’t hurt any of the restaurants or coffee shops. It won’t hurt the real estate offices or the destination bookstores. It won’t hurt the movie theaters or ice cream parlors. It won’t hurt the high-end clothing shops and shoe stores. It won’t hurt the barber shops and beauty parlors….

    I don’t doubt that it will affect some businesses — particularly the home store of Davis Ace — and some could end up closing. But the downtown as a whole will go on just fine, as new proprietors take over for those who could not compete.

  35. Rich Rifkin

    “any downtown business endorsing souza and saylor, given their votes for target, need their heads examined just on grounds of self-interest alone, but there it is.”

    There is another, simpler and smarter explanation: Target in East Mace Ranch is not going to negatively affect most downtown businesses. It won’t hurt any of the restaurants or coffee shops. It won’t hurt the real estate offices or the destination bookstores. It won’t hurt the movie theaters or ice cream parlors. It won’t hurt the high-end clothing shops and shoe stores. It won’t hurt the barber shops and beauty parlors….

    I don’t doubt that it will affect some businesses — particularly the home store of Davis Ace — and some could end up closing. But the downtown as a whole will go on just fine, as new proprietors take over for those who could not compete.

  36. Rich Rifkin

    “any downtown business endorsing souza and saylor, given their votes for target, need their heads examined just on grounds of self-interest alone, but there it is.”

    There is another, simpler and smarter explanation: Target in East Mace Ranch is not going to negatively affect most downtown businesses. It won’t hurt any of the restaurants or coffee shops. It won’t hurt the real estate offices or the destination bookstores. It won’t hurt the movie theaters or ice cream parlors. It won’t hurt the high-end clothing shops and shoe stores. It won’t hurt the barber shops and beauty parlors….

    I don’t doubt that it will affect some businesses — particularly the home store of Davis Ace — and some could end up closing. But the downtown as a whole will go on just fine, as new proprietors take over for those who could not compete.

  37. Anonymous

    Maybe if we allowed some development, us renters would be able to become owners and be able tell the local landlords to go pound sand. I’ve lived all over CA, including SF, OC, and LA and Davis has the shadiest LLs I’ve ever encountered.

  38. Anonymous

    Maybe if we allowed some development, us renters would be able to become owners and be able tell the local landlords to go pound sand. I’ve lived all over CA, including SF, OC, and LA and Davis has the shadiest LLs I’ve ever encountered.

  39. Anonymous

    Maybe if we allowed some development, us renters would be able to become owners and be able tell the local landlords to go pound sand. I’ve lived all over CA, including SF, OC, and LA and Davis has the shadiest LLs I’ve ever encountered.

  40. Anonymous

    Maybe if we allowed some development, us renters would be able to become owners and be able tell the local landlords to go pound sand. I’ve lived all over CA, including SF, OC, and LA and Davis has the shadiest LLs I’ve ever encountered.

  41. Anonymous

    Apparently free speech rights aren’t part of the Davis “progressives” agenda.

    Come to think of it, I saw a Cecilia sign across the street from Long’s Drugs. It’s now clear that the pharmaceutical companies must be backing her…

  42. Anonymous

    Apparently free speech rights aren’t part of the Davis “progressives” agenda.

    Come to think of it, I saw a Cecilia sign across the street from Long’s Drugs. It’s now clear that the pharmaceutical companies must be backing her…

  43. Anonymous

    Apparently free speech rights aren’t part of the Davis “progressives” agenda.

    Come to think of it, I saw a Cecilia sign across the street from Long’s Drugs. It’s now clear that the pharmaceutical companies must be backing her…

  44. Anonymous

    Apparently free speech rights aren’t part of the Davis “progressives” agenda.

    Come to think of it, I saw a Cecilia sign across the street from Long’s Drugs. It’s now clear that the pharmaceutical companies must be backing her…

  45. Anonymous

    anon 10:37

    Could it be that Steve’s company has the exclusive contract to clean Tandem Properties pools?

    Steve does what he says he’s going to do? Is slow glow building 1800 units on farmland because he said he was slow growth in 2004.

    He also told the students he would vote against making the open container policy permanent and then, when elected, he did the opposite of what he said he would do.

  46. Anonymous

    anon 10:37

    Could it be that Steve’s company has the exclusive contract to clean Tandem Properties pools?

    Steve does what he says he’s going to do? Is slow glow building 1800 units on farmland because he said he was slow growth in 2004.

    He also told the students he would vote against making the open container policy permanent and then, when elected, he did the opposite of what he said he would do.

  47. Anonymous

    anon 10:37

    Could it be that Steve’s company has the exclusive contract to clean Tandem Properties pools?

    Steve does what he says he’s going to do? Is slow glow building 1800 units on farmland because he said he was slow growth in 2004.

    He also told the students he would vote against making the open container policy permanent and then, when elected, he did the opposite of what he said he would do.

  48. Anonymous

    anon 10:37

    Could it be that Steve’s company has the exclusive contract to clean Tandem Properties pools?

    Steve does what he says he’s going to do? Is slow glow building 1800 units on farmland because he said he was slow growth in 2004.

    He also told the students he would vote against making the open container policy permanent and then, when elected, he did the opposite of what he said he would do.

  49. fact checker

    @ anon 2:00pm

    FALSE – Could it be that Steve’s company has the exclusive contract to clean Tandem Properties pools? HE GAVE UP THOSE CONTRACTS YEARS AGO.

    Steve does what he says he’s going to do? Is slow glow building 1800 units on farmland because he said he was slow growth in 2004. IT WAS 180 UNITS FOR 10 YEARS, UNDER THE 1% GROWTH CAP. SO, YES HE IS A SLOW “GLOWER”

    FALSE: He also told the students he would vote against making the open container policy permanent and then, when elected, he did the opposite of what he said he would do. THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST SIX VOTES ON THE OPEN CONTAINER ORDINANCE. IT GETS REASESSED TWICE YEARLY TO PUT IN AND TAKE OUT CERTAIN PARKS IN RESPONSE TO CURRENT SITUATIONS AND RESIDENT COMPLAINTS AND FEEDBACK.

    GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU START MOUTHING OFF…

  50. fact checker

    @ anon 2:00pm

    FALSE – Could it be that Steve’s company has the exclusive contract to clean Tandem Properties pools? HE GAVE UP THOSE CONTRACTS YEARS AGO.

    Steve does what he says he’s going to do? Is slow glow building 1800 units on farmland because he said he was slow growth in 2004. IT WAS 180 UNITS FOR 10 YEARS, UNDER THE 1% GROWTH CAP. SO, YES HE IS A SLOW “GLOWER”

    FALSE: He also told the students he would vote against making the open container policy permanent and then, when elected, he did the opposite of what he said he would do. THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST SIX VOTES ON THE OPEN CONTAINER ORDINANCE. IT GETS REASESSED TWICE YEARLY TO PUT IN AND TAKE OUT CERTAIN PARKS IN RESPONSE TO CURRENT SITUATIONS AND RESIDENT COMPLAINTS AND FEEDBACK.

    GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU START MOUTHING OFF…

  51. fact checker

    @ anon 2:00pm

    FALSE – Could it be that Steve’s company has the exclusive contract to clean Tandem Properties pools? HE GAVE UP THOSE CONTRACTS YEARS AGO.

    Steve does what he says he’s going to do? Is slow glow building 1800 units on farmland because he said he was slow growth in 2004. IT WAS 180 UNITS FOR 10 YEARS, UNDER THE 1% GROWTH CAP. SO, YES HE IS A SLOW “GLOWER”

    FALSE: He also told the students he would vote against making the open container policy permanent and then, when elected, he did the opposite of what he said he would do. THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST SIX VOTES ON THE OPEN CONTAINER ORDINANCE. IT GETS REASESSED TWICE YEARLY TO PUT IN AND TAKE OUT CERTAIN PARKS IN RESPONSE TO CURRENT SITUATIONS AND RESIDENT COMPLAINTS AND FEEDBACK.

    GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU START MOUTHING OFF…

  52. fact checker

    @ anon 2:00pm

    FALSE – Could it be that Steve’s company has the exclusive contract to clean Tandem Properties pools? HE GAVE UP THOSE CONTRACTS YEARS AGO.

    Steve does what he says he’s going to do? Is slow glow building 1800 units on farmland because he said he was slow growth in 2004. IT WAS 180 UNITS FOR 10 YEARS, UNDER THE 1% GROWTH CAP. SO, YES HE IS A SLOW “GLOWER”

    FALSE: He also told the students he would vote against making the open container policy permanent and then, when elected, he did the opposite of what he said he would do. THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST SIX VOTES ON THE OPEN CONTAINER ORDINANCE. IT GETS REASESSED TWICE YEARLY TO PUT IN AND TAKE OUT CERTAIN PARKS IN RESPONSE TO CURRENT SITUATIONS AND RESIDENT COMPLAINTS AND FEEDBACK.

    GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU START MOUTHING OFF…

  53. youve convinced me anonymous 2:32...

    Wow, you raise some excellent arguments and examples of why we shouldn’t vote for Cecilia…

    I didn’t think anyone yet had managed to argue successfully against her many years of valuable public service, her understanding of Davis’ needs, and her commitment to the diversity of the community and intelligent growth – but, gosh, you sure did. I’m sold.

    Too bad she has such a nice sign.

  54. youve convinced me anonymous

    Wow, you raise some excellent arguments and examples of why we shouldn’t vote for Cecilia…

    I didn’t think anyone yet had managed to argue successfully against her many years of valuable public service, her understanding of Davis’ needs, and her commitment to the diversity of the community and intelligent growth – but, gosh, you sure did. I’m sold.

    Too bad she has such a nice sign.

  55. youve convinced me anonymous

    Wow, you raise some excellent arguments and examples of why we shouldn’t vote for Cecilia…

    I didn’t think anyone yet had managed to argue successfully against her many years of valuable public service, her understanding of Davis’ needs, and her commitment to the diversity of the community and intelligent growth – but, gosh, you sure did. I’m sold.

    Too bad she has such a nice sign.

  56. youve convinced me anonymous

    Wow, you raise some excellent arguments and examples of why we shouldn’t vote for Cecilia…

    I didn’t think anyone yet had managed to argue successfully against her many years of valuable public service, her understanding of Davis’ needs, and her commitment to the diversity of the community and intelligent growth – but, gosh, you sure did. I’m sold.

    Too bad she has such a nice sign.

  57. Anonymous

    Her public service = the death of HRC

    Cecilia is too much of a hothead to make a good councilmember, reading from overused playbook of this schlog-blog.

  58. Anonymous

    Her public service = the death of HRC

    Cecilia is too much of a hothead to make a good councilmember, reading from overused playbook of this schlog-blog.

  59. Anonymous

    Her public service = the death of HRC

    Cecilia is too much of a hothead to make a good councilmember, reading from overused playbook of this schlog-blog.

  60. Anonymous

    Her public service = the death of HRC

    Cecilia is too much of a hothead to make a good councilmember, reading from overused playbook of this schlog-blog.

  61. killing the messenger

    Her public service = standing up for folks with less power and privilege in this community.

    Privileged, fearful, “don’t-rock-the-boat” city council members and police chief = death of HRC

  62. killing the messenger

    Her public service = standing up for folks with less power and privilege in this community.

    Privileged, fearful, “don’t-rock-the-boat” city council members and police chief = death of HRC

  63. killing the messenger

    Her public service = standing up for folks with less power and privilege in this community.

    Privileged, fearful, “don’t-rock-the-boat” city council members and police chief = death of HRC

  64. killing the messenger

    Her public service = standing up for folks with less power and privilege in this community.

    Privileged, fearful, “don’t-rock-the-boat” city council members and police chief = death of HRC

  65. Private Number

    I have known Cecilia for years. She is among the kindest and most compassionate people I have met. The police matter was completely overblown in the press, mishandled by those on the council and in the department. I’ve never seen Cecilia lose her cool. Now maybe during some of these contentious meetings it happened, but then again I’ve seen all the members on Council except Lamar lose their cool at times. Cecilia is the biggest advocate for the underpriviledged and the disenfranchised. She would be a great asset on the council.

  66. Private Number

    I have known Cecilia for years. She is among the kindest and most compassionate people I have met. The police matter was completely overblown in the press, mishandled by those on the council and in the department. I’ve never seen Cecilia lose her cool. Now maybe during some of these contentious meetings it happened, but then again I’ve seen all the members on Council except Lamar lose their cool at times. Cecilia is the biggest advocate for the underpriviledged and the disenfranchised. She would be a great asset on the council.

  67. Private Number

    I have known Cecilia for years. She is among the kindest and most compassionate people I have met. The police matter was completely overblown in the press, mishandled by those on the council and in the department. I’ve never seen Cecilia lose her cool. Now maybe during some of these contentious meetings it happened, but then again I’ve seen all the members on Council except Lamar lose their cool at times. Cecilia is the biggest advocate for the underpriviledged and the disenfranchised. She would be a great asset on the council.

  68. Private Number

    I have known Cecilia for years. She is among the kindest and most compassionate people I have met. The police matter was completely overblown in the press, mishandled by those on the council and in the department. I’ve never seen Cecilia lose her cool. Now maybe during some of these contentious meetings it happened, but then again I’ve seen all the members on Council except Lamar lose their cool at times. Cecilia is the biggest advocate for the underpriviledged and the disenfranchised. She would be a great asset on the council.

  69. Anonymous

    So is this meant to be an observation or just more sour grapes that some people have better sign locations than others? Have, for example, the other candidates done something as radical as ask the landowners with candidate signs if they too might post? Or is it easier to just sit back and whine about it and to suggest that some sort of political corruption is taking place? That type of behavior is not indicative of leadership.

  70. Anonymous

    So is this meant to be an observation or just more sour grapes that some people have better sign locations than others? Have, for example, the other candidates done something as radical as ask the landowners with candidate signs if they too might post? Or is it easier to just sit back and whine about it and to suggest that some sort of political corruption is taking place? That type of behavior is not indicative of leadership.

  71. Anonymous

    So is this meant to be an observation or just more sour grapes that some people have better sign locations than others? Have, for example, the other candidates done something as radical as ask the landowners with candidate signs if they too might post? Or is it easier to just sit back and whine about it and to suggest that some sort of political corruption is taking place? That type of behavior is not indicative of leadership.

  72. Anonymous

    So is this meant to be an observation or just more sour grapes that some people have better sign locations than others? Have, for example, the other candidates done something as radical as ask the landowners with candidate signs if they too might post? Or is it easier to just sit back and whine about it and to suggest that some sort of political corruption is taking place? That type of behavior is not indicative of leadership.

  73. Ron

    I think the complaint is that certain candidates are in the pocket of certain special interests, not that certain candidates have better spots for signs than others.

  74. Ron

    I think the complaint is that certain candidates are in the pocket of certain special interests, not that certain candidates have better spots for signs than others.

  75. Ron

    I think the complaint is that certain candidates are in the pocket of certain special interests, not that certain candidates have better spots for signs than others.

  76. Ron

    I think the complaint is that certain candidates are in the pocket of certain special interests, not that certain candidates have better spots for signs than others.

  77. campaign watcher

    Since most, if not all, of rural yolo county is owned by someone one, then putting up a sign anywhere is going to be on land owned by someone. The closer to cities, the landowner, though currently farming the land, could eventually sell it, I guess. I don’t believe that the location of signs makes me vote for one person over another as I believe that there are too many variables involved – landlords putting signs up in front of houses rented out to people who don’t support the candidate, signs put up illegally getting exposure for at least a little while until they are removed by city staff or others, people stealing signs, etc.

  78. campaign watcher

    Since most, if not all, of rural yolo county is owned by someone one, then putting up a sign anywhere is going to be on land owned by someone. The closer to cities, the landowner, though currently farming the land, could eventually sell it, I guess. I don’t believe that the location of signs makes me vote for one person over another as I believe that there are too many variables involved – landlords putting signs up in front of houses rented out to people who don’t support the candidate, signs put up illegally getting exposure for at least a little while until they are removed by city staff or others, people stealing signs, etc.

  79. campaign watcher

    Since most, if not all, of rural yolo county is owned by someone one, then putting up a sign anywhere is going to be on land owned by someone. The closer to cities, the landowner, though currently farming the land, could eventually sell it, I guess. I don’t believe that the location of signs makes me vote for one person over another as I believe that there are too many variables involved – landlords putting signs up in front of houses rented out to people who don’t support the candidate, signs put up illegally getting exposure for at least a little while until they are removed by city staff or others, people stealing signs, etc.

  80. campaign watcher

    Since most, if not all, of rural yolo county is owned by someone one, then putting up a sign anywhere is going to be on land owned by someone. The closer to cities, the landowner, though currently farming the land, could eventually sell it, I guess. I don’t believe that the location of signs makes me vote for one person over another as I believe that there are too many variables involved – landlords putting signs up in front of houses rented out to people who don’t support the candidate, signs put up illegally getting exposure for at least a little while until they are removed by city staff or others, people stealing signs, etc.

  81. Anonymous

    Gosh, people really do not want to hear the truth that DPD is speaking.
    Saylor, Souza and Vergis are so pro development it’s not even funny. And Souza with his “Green” pledge? What a joke. More like the a toxic glowing green that Target and the three will be rolling in, in the coming years.

    Keep Davis Boring!

  82. Anonymous

    Gosh, people really do not want to hear the truth that DPD is speaking.
    Saylor, Souza and Vergis are so pro development it’s not even funny. And Souza with his “Green” pledge? What a joke. More like the a toxic glowing green that Target and the three will be rolling in, in the coming years.

    Keep Davis Boring!

  83. Anonymous

    Gosh, people really do not want to hear the truth that DPD is speaking.
    Saylor, Souza and Vergis are so pro development it’s not even funny. And Souza with his “Green” pledge? What a joke. More like the a toxic glowing green that Target and the three will be rolling in, in the coming years.

    Keep Davis Boring!

  84. Anonymous

    Gosh, people really do not want to hear the truth that DPD is speaking.
    Saylor, Souza and Vergis are so pro development it’s not even funny. And Souza with his “Green” pledge? What a joke. More like the a toxic glowing green that Target and the three will be rolling in, in the coming years.

    Keep Davis Boring!

  85. Well, thats one way to rewrite History, Anon. 5:33

    “”Privileged, fearful, “don’t-rock-the-boat” city council members and police chief = death of HRC”

    PURE FICTION”

    …Sure, just call it “pure fiction” and it must be so. Yet another assertion supported with amazing evidence. So, let me get this right: most of our present city council members (and a former member) and (the former) chief of police are disadvantaged, courageous, and highly supportive of the HRC directing the community’s attention to the disparities in police interactions with some groups in the community? Perhaps you’re thinking of the Bizarro World Davis City Council. Or a parallel universe maybe?

  86. Well, thats one way to rewrit

    “”Privileged, fearful, “don’t-rock-the-boat” city council members and police chief = death of HRC”

    PURE FICTION”

    …Sure, just call it “pure fiction” and it must be so. Yet another assertion supported with amazing evidence. So, let me get this right: most of our present city council members (and a former member) and (the former) chief of police are disadvantaged, courageous, and highly supportive of the HRC directing the community’s attention to the disparities in police interactions with some groups in the community? Perhaps you’re thinking of the Bizarro World Davis City Council. Or a parallel universe maybe?

  87. Well, thats one way to rewrit

    “”Privileged, fearful, “don’t-rock-the-boat” city council members and police chief = death of HRC”

    PURE FICTION”

    …Sure, just call it “pure fiction” and it must be so. Yet another assertion supported with amazing evidence. So, let me get this right: most of our present city council members (and a former member) and (the former) chief of police are disadvantaged, courageous, and highly supportive of the HRC directing the community’s attention to the disparities in police interactions with some groups in the community? Perhaps you’re thinking of the Bizarro World Davis City Council. Or a parallel universe maybe?

  88. Well, thats one way to rewrit

    “”Privileged, fearful, “don’t-rock-the-boat” city council members and police chief = death of HRC”

    PURE FICTION”

    …Sure, just call it “pure fiction” and it must be so. Yet another assertion supported with amazing evidence. So, let me get this right: most of our present city council members (and a former member) and (the former) chief of police are disadvantaged, courageous, and highly supportive of the HRC directing the community’s attention to the disparities in police interactions with some groups in the community? Perhaps you’re thinking of the Bizarro World Davis City Council. Or a parallel universe maybe?

  89. Anonymous

    Simply put, Cecilia is overrated. She doesn’t deserve to be on the council, and she’ll be weak in her decision making.

    She speaks in broad generalizations, copies the platform of her namesake (Sue), and blows up when she doesn’t get what she wants–i.e., when someone disagrees with her. At least Sue does her own thinking.

    I can care less what Cecilia does for a living, but I don’t think she’s really up to solving the problems of our city, real and imagined (e.g., the debate over the deficit).

    Cecilia destroyed the HRC; she knows it–and you probably know it, too. Hyde was smart to leave town. It seems that too many Davisites live in this Land of Oz or drink the same Kool-Aid. Hyde had experience elsewhere, so he had some other perspective–perspective beyond the one-dimensional lens that this blog reinforces.

    If Cecilia wins, Zeus, help us all!!!

  90. Anonymous

    Simply put, Cecilia is overrated. She doesn’t deserve to be on the council, and she’ll be weak in her decision making.

    She speaks in broad generalizations, copies the platform of her namesake (Sue), and blows up when she doesn’t get what she wants–i.e., when someone disagrees with her. At least Sue does her own thinking.

    I can care less what Cecilia does for a living, but I don’t think she’s really up to solving the problems of our city, real and imagined (e.g., the debate over the deficit).

    Cecilia destroyed the HRC; she knows it–and you probably know it, too. Hyde was smart to leave town. It seems that too many Davisites live in this Land of Oz or drink the same Kool-Aid. Hyde had experience elsewhere, so he had some other perspective–perspective beyond the one-dimensional lens that this blog reinforces.

    If Cecilia wins, Zeus, help us all!!!

  91. Anonymous

    Simply put, Cecilia is overrated. She doesn’t deserve to be on the council, and she’ll be weak in her decision making.

    She speaks in broad generalizations, copies the platform of her namesake (Sue), and blows up when she doesn’t get what she wants–i.e., when someone disagrees with her. At least Sue does her own thinking.

    I can care less what Cecilia does for a living, but I don’t think she’s really up to solving the problems of our city, real and imagined (e.g., the debate over the deficit).

    Cecilia destroyed the HRC; she knows it–and you probably know it, too. Hyde was smart to leave town. It seems that too many Davisites live in this Land of Oz or drink the same Kool-Aid. Hyde had experience elsewhere, so he had some other perspective–perspective beyond the one-dimensional lens that this blog reinforces.

    If Cecilia wins, Zeus, help us all!!!

  92. Anonymous

    Simply put, Cecilia is overrated. She doesn’t deserve to be on the council, and she’ll be weak in her decision making.

    She speaks in broad generalizations, copies the platform of her namesake (Sue), and blows up when she doesn’t get what she wants–i.e., when someone disagrees with her. At least Sue does her own thinking.

    I can care less what Cecilia does for a living, but I don’t think she’s really up to solving the problems of our city, real and imagined (e.g., the debate over the deficit).

    Cecilia destroyed the HRC; she knows it–and you probably know it, too. Hyde was smart to leave town. It seems that too many Davisites live in this Land of Oz or drink the same Kool-Aid. Hyde had experience elsewhere, so he had some other perspective–perspective beyond the one-dimensional lens that this blog reinforces.

    If Cecilia wins, Zeus, help us all!!!

  93. Calling you out

    Okay I have to bite:

    “Cecilia is overrated”

    Who is doing the rating and in what way is she overrated?

    “she’ll be weak in her decision making”

    Wasn’t the knock on her that she was too strong an advocate–in what way will she be weak in her decision making? Or is that just a synonym for you disagree with her?

    “She speaks in broad generalizations”

    That would eliminate most of the candidates in this race. Every listen to Saylor talk for crying out loud?

    “copies the platform of her namesake”

    How so?

    “I can care less what Cecilia does for a living”

    Does that mean you don’t know or that you are anti-union?

    “Hyde was smart to leave town”

    You do know that Hyde was basically fired, right?

    “Hyde had experience elsewhere, so he had some other perspective”

    Interesting. Hyde was pretty much run out of town. He was rarely around the department, a horrible leader, the morale was horrible under him, and his men despised him. They are much happier under Landy Black. They will tell you if you ask them–to a man.

    Ever notice that the police have not said a single bad word about Cecilia this election cycle. They did not endorse her, but they have not attacked her either. There is a reason for that. People ought to find out what that reason is.

  94. Calling you out

    Okay I have to bite:

    “Cecilia is overrated”

    Who is doing the rating and in what way is she overrated?

    “she’ll be weak in her decision making”

    Wasn’t the knock on her that she was too strong an advocate–in what way will she be weak in her decision making? Or is that just a synonym for you disagree with her?

    “She speaks in broad generalizations”

    That would eliminate most of the candidates in this race. Every listen to Saylor talk for crying out loud?

    “copies the platform of her namesake”

    How so?

    “I can care less what Cecilia does for a living”

    Does that mean you don’t know or that you are anti-union?

    “Hyde was smart to leave town”

    You do know that Hyde was basically fired, right?

    “Hyde had experience elsewhere, so he had some other perspective”

    Interesting. Hyde was pretty much run out of town. He was rarely around the department, a horrible leader, the morale was horrible under him, and his men despised him. They are much happier under Landy Black. They will tell you if you ask them–to a man.

    Ever notice that the police have not said a single bad word about Cecilia this election cycle. They did not endorse her, but they have not attacked her either. There is a reason for that. People ought to find out what that reason is.

  95. Calling you out

    Okay I have to bite:

    “Cecilia is overrated”

    Who is doing the rating and in what way is she overrated?

    “she’ll be weak in her decision making”

    Wasn’t the knock on her that she was too strong an advocate–in what way will she be weak in her decision making? Or is that just a synonym for you disagree with her?

    “She speaks in broad generalizations”

    That would eliminate most of the candidates in this race. Every listen to Saylor talk for crying out loud?

    “copies the platform of her namesake”

    How so?

    “I can care less what Cecilia does for a living”

    Does that mean you don’t know or that you are anti-union?

    “Hyde was smart to leave town”

    You do know that Hyde was basically fired, right?

    “Hyde had experience elsewhere, so he had some other perspective”

    Interesting. Hyde was pretty much run out of town. He was rarely around the department, a horrible leader, the morale was horrible under him, and his men despised him. They are much happier under Landy Black. They will tell you if you ask them–to a man.

    Ever notice that the police have not said a single bad word about Cecilia this election cycle. They did not endorse her, but they have not attacked her either. There is a reason for that. People ought to find out what that reason is.

  96. Calling you out

    Okay I have to bite:

    “Cecilia is overrated”

    Who is doing the rating and in what way is she overrated?

    “she’ll be weak in her decision making”

    Wasn’t the knock on her that she was too strong an advocate–in what way will she be weak in her decision making? Or is that just a synonym for you disagree with her?

    “She speaks in broad generalizations”

    That would eliminate most of the candidates in this race. Every listen to Saylor talk for crying out loud?

    “copies the platform of her namesake”

    How so?

    “I can care less what Cecilia does for a living”

    Does that mean you don’t know or that you are anti-union?

    “Hyde was smart to leave town”

    You do know that Hyde was basically fired, right?

    “Hyde had experience elsewhere, so he had some other perspective”

    Interesting. Hyde was pretty much run out of town. He was rarely around the department, a horrible leader, the morale was horrible under him, and his men despised him. They are much happier under Landy Black. They will tell you if you ask them–to a man.

    Ever notice that the police have not said a single bad word about Cecilia this election cycle. They did not endorse her, but they have not attacked her either. There is a reason for that. People ought to find out what that reason is.

  97. Anonymous

    “Ever notice that the police have not said a single bad word about Cecilia this election cycle. They did not endorse her, but they have not attacked her either. There is a reason for that. People ought to find out what that reason is.”

    The police could care less?

    By the way, I’d like to know how Cecilia’s being a union boss qualifies her for the city council beyond “leadership.” Saylor at least had experience in government and budgets.

    And if Hyde were run out of town, as you say, how did he get a new job so fast, eh?

    Keep writing the revisionist history. It’s quite entertaining.

  98. Anonymous

    “Ever notice that the police have not said a single bad word about Cecilia this election cycle. They did not endorse her, but they have not attacked her either. There is a reason for that. People ought to find out what that reason is.”

    The police could care less?

    By the way, I’d like to know how Cecilia’s being a union boss qualifies her for the city council beyond “leadership.” Saylor at least had experience in government and budgets.

    And if Hyde were run out of town, as you say, how did he get a new job so fast, eh?

    Keep writing the revisionist history. It’s quite entertaining.

  99. Anonymous

    “Ever notice that the police have not said a single bad word about Cecilia this election cycle. They did not endorse her, but they have not attacked her either. There is a reason for that. People ought to find out what that reason is.”

    The police could care less?

    By the way, I’d like to know how Cecilia’s being a union boss qualifies her for the city council beyond “leadership.” Saylor at least had experience in government and budgets.

    And if Hyde were run out of town, as you say, how did he get a new job so fast, eh?

    Keep writing the revisionist history. It’s quite entertaining.

  100. Anonymous

    “Ever notice that the police have not said a single bad word about Cecilia this election cycle. They did not endorse her, but they have not attacked her either. There is a reason for that. People ought to find out what that reason is.”

    The police could care less?

    By the way, I’d like to know how Cecilia’s being a union boss qualifies her for the city council beyond “leadership.” Saylor at least had experience in government and budgets.

    And if Hyde were run out of town, as you say, how did he get a new job so fast, eh?

    Keep writing the revisionist history. It’s quite entertaining.

  101. Calling you out

    “And if Hyde were run out of town, as you say, how did he get a new job so fast, eh?”

    If you know as much as you think you do, you just poke your head around ask some of them POA folks what they think of Hyde and how and why he left. I guarantee you’ll get a very different picture than you got now.

  102. Calling you out

    “And if Hyde were run out of town, as you say, how did he get a new job so fast, eh?”

    If you know as much as you think you do, you just poke your head around ask some of them POA folks what they think of Hyde and how and why he left. I guarantee you’ll get a very different picture than you got now.

  103. Calling you out

    “And if Hyde were run out of town, as you say, how did he get a new job so fast, eh?”

    If you know as much as you think you do, you just poke your head around ask some of them POA folks what they think of Hyde and how and why he left. I guarantee you’ll get a very different picture than you got now.

  104. Calling you out

    “And if Hyde were run out of town, as you say, how did he get a new job so fast, eh?”

    If you know as much as you think you do, you just poke your head around ask some of them POA folks what they think of Hyde and how and why he left. I guarantee you’ll get a very different picture than you got now.

  105. Mark

    Good story and interesting perspective on the signs. I also noticed that these big signs are on developer property and wondered what is going on.

    As for your wife DPD – Cecelia – she was one of the candidates that I voted for. I’ll email her for a lawn sign.

    She is smart, speaks up for people who don’t have a voice, and doesn’t pander to certain elements in town.

    I blame the disbanding of the HRC on the council members who voted for it. They could not handle having to address tough issues. Good leaders are not afraid to discuss tough issues.

    The new police chief is doing a good job. The officers seem happier and they are communicating with the public more. I notice them around town and at farmers market more than in the past. The new chief is liked much better by his staff. I have spoken with some who have conveyed this to me. Chief Landy Black is more professional.

    Good changes for all of us.
    Please tell your wife thank you for running.

  106. Mark

    Good story and interesting perspective on the signs. I also noticed that these big signs are on developer property and wondered what is going on.

    As for your wife DPD – Cecelia – she was one of the candidates that I voted for. I’ll email her for a lawn sign.

    She is smart, speaks up for people who don’t have a voice, and doesn’t pander to certain elements in town.

    I blame the disbanding of the HRC on the council members who voted for it. They could not handle having to address tough issues. Good leaders are not afraid to discuss tough issues.

    The new police chief is doing a good job. The officers seem happier and they are communicating with the public more. I notice them around town and at farmers market more than in the past. The new chief is liked much better by his staff. I have spoken with some who have conveyed this to me. Chief Landy Black is more professional.

    Good changes for all of us.
    Please tell your wife thank you for running.

  107. Mark

    Good story and interesting perspective on the signs. I also noticed that these big signs are on developer property and wondered what is going on.

    As for your wife DPD – Cecelia – she was one of the candidates that I voted for. I’ll email her for a lawn sign.

    She is smart, speaks up for people who don’t have a voice, and doesn’t pander to certain elements in town.

    I blame the disbanding of the HRC on the council members who voted for it. They could not handle having to address tough issues. Good leaders are not afraid to discuss tough issues.

    The new police chief is doing a good job. The officers seem happier and they are communicating with the public more. I notice them around town and at farmers market more than in the past. The new chief is liked much better by his staff. I have spoken with some who have conveyed this to me. Chief Landy Black is more professional.

    Good changes for all of us.
    Please tell your wife thank you for running.

  108. Mark

    Good story and interesting perspective on the signs. I also noticed that these big signs are on developer property and wondered what is going on.

    As for your wife DPD – Cecelia – she was one of the candidates that I voted for. I’ll email her for a lawn sign.

    She is smart, speaks up for people who don’t have a voice, and doesn’t pander to certain elements in town.

    I blame the disbanding of the HRC on the council members who voted for it. They could not handle having to address tough issues. Good leaders are not afraid to discuss tough issues.

    The new police chief is doing a good job. The officers seem happier and they are communicating with the public more. I notice them around town and at farmers market more than in the past. The new chief is liked much better by his staff. I have spoken with some who have conveyed this to me. Chief Landy Black is more professional.

    Good changes for all of us.
    Please tell your wife thank you for running.

  109. Ann

    Cecilia a union boss? he, he, he. You obviously don’t know her. She represents employees who work for various state agencies.

    The term “union boss” refers to the head of a union.

    Before you make ignorant statements please get your facts straight.

    Now, back to the issue at hand. DPD, did you notice that the Yamada campaign has three different signs? Different colors and layout?

  110. Ann

    Cecilia a union boss? he, he, he. You obviously don’t know her. She represents employees who work for various state agencies.

    The term “union boss” refers to the head of a union.

    Before you make ignorant statements please get your facts straight.

    Now, back to the issue at hand. DPD, did you notice that the Yamada campaign has three different signs? Different colors and layout?

  111. Ann

    Cecilia a union boss? he, he, he. You obviously don’t know her. She represents employees who work for various state agencies.

    The term “union boss” refers to the head of a union.

    Before you make ignorant statements please get your facts straight.

    Now, back to the issue at hand. DPD, did you notice that the Yamada campaign has three different signs? Different colors and layout?

  112. Ann

    Cecilia a union boss? he, he, he. You obviously don’t know her. She represents employees who work for various state agencies.

    The term “union boss” refers to the head of a union.

    Before you make ignorant statements please get your facts straight.

    Now, back to the issue at hand. DPD, did you notice that the Yamada campaign has three different signs? Different colors and layout?

  113. 無名 - wu ming

    ann –

    i don’t know why there are two crane sign color schemes, but the lame looking yellow and blue one is from the CNA-CTA-SEIU group that’s paying for her flyers. i assume it’s an independent expenditure.

    what boggles my mind is how the cabaldon campaign could come up with such an attractive website, and such a hideous lawn sign.

    souza’s is a real step down from last time, too. putting the green highlights and the earth in the bike wheel just didn’t work, visually.

    one thing rifkin didn’t take into account in his article on signs (i’d link, but the enterprise is lame and doesn’t allow links to non-registered viewers) was sign design for cars driving by vs. for pedestrians walking past. for example, cecilia’s isn’t all that legible from a distance, but is quite attractive and easy to read from the sidewalk.

  114. 無名 - wu ming

    ann –

    i don’t know why there are two crane sign color schemes, but the lame looking yellow and blue one is from the CNA-CTA-SEIU group that’s paying for her flyers. i assume it’s an independent expenditure.

    what boggles my mind is how the cabaldon campaign could come up with such an attractive website, and such a hideous lawn sign.

    souza’s is a real step down from last time, too. putting the green highlights and the earth in the bike wheel just didn’t work, visually.

    one thing rifkin didn’t take into account in his article on signs (i’d link, but the enterprise is lame and doesn’t allow links to non-registered viewers) was sign design for cars driving by vs. for pedestrians walking past. for example, cecilia’s isn’t all that legible from a distance, but is quite attractive and easy to read from the sidewalk.

  115. 無名 - wu ming

    ann –

    i don’t know why there are two crane sign color schemes, but the lame looking yellow and blue one is from the CNA-CTA-SEIU group that’s paying for her flyers. i assume it’s an independent expenditure.

    what boggles my mind is how the cabaldon campaign could come up with such an attractive website, and such a hideous lawn sign.

    souza’s is a real step down from last time, too. putting the green highlights and the earth in the bike wheel just didn’t work, visually.

    one thing rifkin didn’t take into account in his article on signs (i’d link, but the enterprise is lame and doesn’t allow links to non-registered viewers) was sign design for cars driving by vs. for pedestrians walking past. for example, cecilia’s isn’t all that legible from a distance, but is quite attractive and easy to read from the sidewalk.

  116. 無名 - wu ming

    ann –

    i don’t know why there are two crane sign color schemes, but the lame looking yellow and blue one is from the CNA-CTA-SEIU group that’s paying for her flyers. i assume it’s an independent expenditure.

    what boggles my mind is how the cabaldon campaign could come up with such an attractive website, and such a hideous lawn sign.

    souza’s is a real step down from last time, too. putting the green highlights and the earth in the bike wheel just didn’t work, visually.

    one thing rifkin didn’t take into account in his article on signs (i’d link, but the enterprise is lame and doesn’t allow links to non-registered viewers) was sign design for cars driving by vs. for pedestrians walking past. for example, cecilia’s isn’t all that legible from a distance, but is quite attractive and easy to read from the sidewalk.

  117. Rich Rifkin

    WU: “one thing rifkin didn’t take into account in his article on signs … was sign design for cars driving by vs. for pedestrians walking past.”

    I think that’s a valid point. However, to the extent that those two goals conflict, it makes more sense to err on the side of making a sign which is best designed for a driver. The candidates uniformly told me they hoped to get their signs up at “prime locations” on major corners and on major streets, so passing drivers would see them.

    I think, if it is not cost prohibitive, it might make sense to have other signs designed for pedestrians, and those signs could be put up in locations where most of the people passing them won’t be driving by at full speed in a car.

    “what boggles my mind is how the cabaldon campaign could come up with such an attractive website, and such a hideous lawn sign.”

    I really didn’t like Cabaldon’s color scheme at first. The orange on the bottom doesn’t work. It’s very hard to read what the white writing inside of it says. However, if you are just driving by, the upper part, where it says, “Christopher Cabaldon,” is very clear and readable. And up close, the grass motif is not bad looking. So all in all, I didn’t think the sign was a failure. (His opponent, Mariko Yamada, has much more aesthetically pleasing signs. Her fault was likewise making it hard to read the name of the job she is running for; and because of the emphasis on the Japanese crane, her name is not as bold as it ought to be.)

    “souza’s is a real step down from last time, too. putting the green highlights and the earth in the bike wheel just didn’t work, visually.”

    Up close, I agree with that assessment. It’s too much dreck. However, if you look at Souza’s sign, while driving by, the one thing that pops out at you is that kitschy O with the earth and bicycle. If that were not there, the signs themselves would be less noticeable.

  118. Rich Rifkin

    WU: “one thing rifkin didn’t take into account in his article on signs … was sign design for cars driving by vs. for pedestrians walking past.”

    I think that’s a valid point. However, to the extent that those two goals conflict, it makes more sense to err on the side of making a sign which is best designed for a driver. The candidates uniformly told me they hoped to get their signs up at “prime locations” on major corners and on major streets, so passing drivers would see them.

    I think, if it is not cost prohibitive, it might make sense to have other signs designed for pedestrians, and those signs could be put up in locations where most of the people passing them won’t be driving by at full speed in a car.

    “what boggles my mind is how the cabaldon campaign could come up with such an attractive website, and such a hideous lawn sign.”

    I really didn’t like Cabaldon’s color scheme at first. The orange on the bottom doesn’t work. It’s very hard to read what the white writing inside of it says. However, if you are just driving by, the upper part, where it says, “Christopher Cabaldon,” is very clear and readable. And up close, the grass motif is not bad looking. So all in all, I didn’t think the sign was a failure. (His opponent, Mariko Yamada, has much more aesthetically pleasing signs. Her fault was likewise making it hard to read the name of the job she is running for; and because of the emphasis on the Japanese crane, her name is not as bold as it ought to be.)

    “souza’s is a real step down from last time, too. putting the green highlights and the earth in the bike wheel just didn’t work, visually.”

    Up close, I agree with that assessment. It’s too much dreck. However, if you look at Souza’s sign, while driving by, the one thing that pops out at you is that kitschy O with the earth and bicycle. If that were not there, the signs themselves would be less noticeable.

  119. Rich Rifkin

    WU: “one thing rifkin didn’t take into account in his article on signs … was sign design for cars driving by vs. for pedestrians walking past.”

    I think that’s a valid point. However, to the extent that those two goals conflict, it makes more sense to err on the side of making a sign which is best designed for a driver. The candidates uniformly told me they hoped to get their signs up at “prime locations” on major corners and on major streets, so passing drivers would see them.

    I think, if it is not cost prohibitive, it might make sense to have other signs designed for pedestrians, and those signs could be put up in locations where most of the people passing them won’t be driving by at full speed in a car.

    “what boggles my mind is how the cabaldon campaign could come up with such an attractive website, and such a hideous lawn sign.”

    I really didn’t like Cabaldon’s color scheme at first. The orange on the bottom doesn’t work. It’s very hard to read what the white writing inside of it says. However, if you are just driving by, the upper part, where it says, “Christopher Cabaldon,” is very clear and readable. And up close, the grass motif is not bad looking. So all in all, I didn’t think the sign was a failure. (His opponent, Mariko Yamada, has much more aesthetically pleasing signs. Her fault was likewise making it hard to read the name of the job she is running for; and because of the emphasis on the Japanese crane, her name is not as bold as it ought to be.)

    “souza’s is a real step down from last time, too. putting the green highlights and the earth in the bike wheel just didn’t work, visually.”

    Up close, I agree with that assessment. It’s too much dreck. However, if you look at Souza’s sign, while driving by, the one thing that pops out at you is that kitschy O with the earth and bicycle. If that were not there, the signs themselves would be less noticeable.

  120. Rich Rifkin

    WU: “one thing rifkin didn’t take into account in his article on signs … was sign design for cars driving by vs. for pedestrians walking past.”

    I think that’s a valid point. However, to the extent that those two goals conflict, it makes more sense to err on the side of making a sign which is best designed for a driver. The candidates uniformly told me they hoped to get their signs up at “prime locations” on major corners and on major streets, so passing drivers would see them.

    I think, if it is not cost prohibitive, it might make sense to have other signs designed for pedestrians, and those signs could be put up in locations where most of the people passing them won’t be driving by at full speed in a car.

    “what boggles my mind is how the cabaldon campaign could come up with such an attractive website, and such a hideous lawn sign.”

    I really didn’t like Cabaldon’s color scheme at first. The orange on the bottom doesn’t work. It’s very hard to read what the white writing inside of it says. However, if you are just driving by, the upper part, where it says, “Christopher Cabaldon,” is very clear and readable. And up close, the grass motif is not bad looking. So all in all, I didn’t think the sign was a failure. (His opponent, Mariko Yamada, has much more aesthetically pleasing signs. Her fault was likewise making it hard to read the name of the job she is running for; and because of the emphasis on the Japanese crane, her name is not as bold as it ought to be.)

    “souza’s is a real step down from last time, too. putting the green highlights and the earth in the bike wheel just didn’t work, visually.”

    Up close, I agree with that assessment. It’s too much dreck. However, if you look at Souza’s sign, while driving by, the one thing that pops out at you is that kitschy O with the earth and bicycle. If that were not there, the signs themselves would be less noticeable.

  121. Hypocracy

    “eyes rolling said…
    Or it’s just a non-issue and you’re playing the troll role…

    I guess we will never know because Blog Moderator keeps deleting the post even though all it does is put forth a well thought out case that PVD is violating Davis election law.

    “Blog Moderator said…
    If you have a serious point to make, email or speak to DPD in person. There will be no anonymous accusations leveled at this blog.”

    Interesting ethos – you allow unlimited anonymous accusations against other candidates but somehow the blog itself must be protected.

  122. Hypocracy

    “eyes rolling said…
    Or it’s just a non-issue and you’re playing the troll role…

    I guess we will never know because Blog Moderator keeps deleting the post even though all it does is put forth a well thought out case that PVD is violating Davis election law.

    “Blog Moderator said…
    If you have a serious point to make, email or speak to DPD in person. There will be no anonymous accusations leveled at this blog.”

    Interesting ethos – you allow unlimited anonymous accusations against other candidates but somehow the blog itself must be protected.

  123. Hypocracy

    “eyes rolling said…
    Or it’s just a non-issue and you’re playing the troll role…

    I guess we will never know because Blog Moderator keeps deleting the post even though all it does is put forth a well thought out case that PVD is violating Davis election law.

    “Blog Moderator said…
    If you have a serious point to make, email or speak to DPD in person. There will be no anonymous accusations leveled at this blog.”

    Interesting ethos – you allow unlimited anonymous accusations against other candidates but somehow the blog itself must be protected.

  124. Hypocracy

    “eyes rolling said…
    Or it’s just a non-issue and you’re playing the troll role…

    I guess we will never know because Blog Moderator keeps deleting the post even though all it does is put forth a well thought out case that PVD is violating Davis election law.

    “Blog Moderator said…
    If you have a serious point to make, email or speak to DPD in person. There will be no anonymous accusations leveled at this blog.”

    Interesting ethos – you allow unlimited anonymous accusations against other candidates but somehow the blog itself must be protected.

  125. Blog Moderator

    Nice spelling.

    Look, if you have a serious complaint with legal ramifications, then do it in person without hiding behind anonymity. If you are not willing to put your name on it, then it does not belong here. You do not have the right to post here, it is a privilege granted by DPD.

  126. Blog Moderator

    Nice spelling.

    Look, if you have a serious complaint with legal ramifications, then do it in person without hiding behind anonymity. If you are not willing to put your name on it, then it does not belong here. You do not have the right to post here, it is a privilege granted by DPD.

  127. Blog Moderator

    Nice spelling.

    Look, if you have a serious complaint with legal ramifications, then do it in person without hiding behind anonymity. If you are not willing to put your name on it, then it does not belong here. You do not have the right to post here, it is a privilege granted by DPD.

  128. Blog Moderator

    Nice spelling.

    Look, if you have a serious complaint with legal ramifications, then do it in person without hiding behind anonymity. If you are not willing to put your name on it, then it does not belong here. You do not have the right to post here, it is a privilege granted by DPD.

  129. Anonymous

    Cabaldon’s Orange and Green signs make me think of one prominent California Politician who used that color scheme during his 2006 re-election campaign.

    Schwarzenegger.

    (Did no-one else notice this?)

    Not only were Arnold’s signs that scheme, so was his bus, and in many cases his ties were alternatively one color and the other.

    And, you can bet that members of the Cabaldon campaign are not ignorant of that fact.

    I’m sure if someone wanted to they could draw a deeper analogy along the lines of Cabaldon-Yamada: Schwarzenegger-Angelides.

  130. Anonymous

    Cabaldon’s Orange and Green signs make me think of one prominent California Politician who used that color scheme during his 2006 re-election campaign.

    Schwarzenegger.

    (Did no-one else notice this?)

    Not only were Arnold’s signs that scheme, so was his bus, and in many cases his ties were alternatively one color and the other.

    And, you can bet that members of the Cabaldon campaign are not ignorant of that fact.

    I’m sure if someone wanted to they could draw a deeper analogy along the lines of Cabaldon-Yamada: Schwarzenegger-Angelides.

  131. Anonymous

    Cabaldon’s Orange and Green signs make me think of one prominent California Politician who used that color scheme during his 2006 re-election campaign.

    Schwarzenegger.

    (Did no-one else notice this?)

    Not only were Arnold’s signs that scheme, so was his bus, and in many cases his ties were alternatively one color and the other.

    And, you can bet that members of the Cabaldon campaign are not ignorant of that fact.

    I’m sure if someone wanted to they could draw a deeper analogy along the lines of Cabaldon-Yamada: Schwarzenegger-Angelides.

  132. Anonymous

    Cabaldon’s Orange and Green signs make me think of one prominent California Politician who used that color scheme during his 2006 re-election campaign.

    Schwarzenegger.

    (Did no-one else notice this?)

    Not only were Arnold’s signs that scheme, so was his bus, and in many cases his ties were alternatively one color and the other.

    And, you can bet that members of the Cabaldon campaign are not ignorant of that fact.

    I’m sure if someone wanted to they could draw a deeper analogy along the lines of Cabaldon-Yamada: Schwarzenegger-Angelides.

  133. Anonymous

    “Anonymous Blog Moderator said…
    Nice spelling. Look, if you have a serious complaint with legal ramifications, then do it in person… 5/21/08 10:09 PM”

    We would rather send a copy of the legal argument to the city clerk and district attorney and let them follow up. Please make sure to keep good records for audit purposes.

  134. Anonymous

    “Anonymous Blog Moderator said…
    Nice spelling. Look, if you have a serious complaint with legal ramifications, then do it in person… 5/21/08 10:09 PM”

    We would rather send a copy of the legal argument to the city clerk and district attorney and let them follow up. Please make sure to keep good records for audit purposes.

  135. Anonymous

    “Anonymous Blog Moderator said…
    Nice spelling. Look, if you have a serious complaint with legal ramifications, then do it in person… 5/21/08 10:09 PM”

    We would rather send a copy of the legal argument to the city clerk and district attorney and let them follow up. Please make sure to keep good records for audit purposes.

  136. Anonymous

    “Anonymous Blog Moderator said…
    Nice spelling. Look, if you have a serious complaint with legal ramifications, then do it in person… 5/21/08 10:09 PM”

    We would rather send a copy of the legal argument to the city clerk and district attorney and let them follow up. Please make sure to keep good records for audit purposes.

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