When the revised state budget came through, the district was able to use $1 million in one-time carryover money in addition to that $1.8 million plus some other budget cuts to hold off deep cuts to teaching staff. However, that is not likely going to work in the future.
Why we need Measure W to pass
Each year expenses go up. If you think about your household expenses as an analogy–let us say you have the same job and you do not get a cost of living increase to your salary from one year to another. You live in the same home and you pay the same bills each year. If you look at your expenses from this year and compare them to last year, you will notice that expenses go up. Gas prices rose, food prices rose, energy costs rose, water bills rose dramatically, etc.
If you do not get a payraise for cost of living, you in effect make less money this year than last year.
People generally cover that in one of two ways. One way is to cut discretionary costs. So in tough times, you make fewer big and luxury purchases. You go on fewer trips. But generally those are one time expenses and they are dwarfed for most people by the everyday costs of doing business.
Let us look at gas prices alone. Let us say that on average gas went up $1 per gallon over last year. Let us further say that you have to consume 10 gallons per week. That’s $10 per week more money than last year or $520 per year. And for most of us, 10 gallons per week is probably on the low side. So for many we are spending between $500 and $1000 more just on gas. That’s just one expense that will take a chunk out discretionary spending. Again, some of that we can save by driving less, but you can only cut so much.
The other way that people finance themselves through tough times is with credit. They go into debt. The school district cannot go into debt however. So they have two options, they can cut spending and at a certain point they have to cut programs and teachers since that is where most of the discretionary money goes or they can ask the taxpayers for a parcel tax.
But let’s get back to cost of living increases because they explain why the school district is facing future deficits.
In a normal year, the school district funds COLA (cost of living allowance). When the state funds COLA, that enables the teachers to get a cost of living increase at a similar rate and it also enables the district to be able to pay for the increased cost of doing business.
However, due to the budget crunch at the state level, the state is not funding COLA this year. So the cost of living for the district is going up by $329 per pupil but the state is only funding about $40 of it. That is going to leave the district this year with a $2.4 million revenue deficit.
Does that number look familiar? It should, that is the same amount that Measure W funds. The reason the district asked for the $120/ per parcel tax is that is what it needs in order to make up for the loss of COLA. The school district is putting Measure W on the ballot in order to cover the funding for our programs and teachers that directly impact our students. Its passage would avoid deep cuts to programs and teachers.
If the state fully funded COLA for 2009-10, we would not need Measure W. Instead the state is funding the COLA at .7% which is far below the 5.5% that was due to schools. This results in far less money for the district. The bottom line is that state money does not cover our current programming, so local dollars have to fund what state dollars do not or we will have to cut programs and teachers.
The bad news
It turns out that each year the state does not fund COLA, actual costs of living go up roughly $1.2 million. So what happened is that we were able to cover the $1.2 million for COLA in the current budget. But next year we have to cover that $1.2 million plus another $1.2 million.
Where does that money come from?
The big expense is the Step and Column increases. Teachers will not get a payraise this year, and at some time I can explain the basic fair-share formula that would explain when they do and when they do not get a payraise. For now, it is most important to realize that it is heavily tied in with state funded COLA. However, just because teachers do not get a payraise does not mean that teaching expenses do not go up.
Built into their contract are step and column increases. Step increases are based on seniority, so each time they go up in seniority, they get a payraise. In addition, also built into their contract is a column increase. Let’s say they take classes in the summer to increase their level of education. They can bump themselves into the next column and get a payraise that way. The district has no control over these increases, they are built into the collective bargaining agreement.
The rest of the inflation costs are utilities (which obviously we understand), insurance increases, and then special education costs (which are restricted dollars).
It is important to understand that as much as a quarter of the spending in the district is tied to restricted money or categorical funds, which means the money has to go to those programs and those monies cannot be transferred to other spending. If you look through the budget for the district, you will see a number of spending lines that have references to legislation that dictates exactly how that money can be spent. Some of these restricted programs were not fully funded, including special education. The district is required to provide them, but does not get reimbursed.
The really bad news
If you are following along, you see where this is going. Let us say we pass Measure W, the district would get an additional $2.4 million which would cover the last two unprovided COLAs for the state.
However, now let us suppose that for 2010-11, the state still does not provide COLA. If that is the case, then the district again runs a deficit of $1.2 million. And that deficit increases by $1.2 million or so each year that the state does not provide COLA.
The other bad news is that this happened in the 1990s the last time the economy was really bad. What happened then is that it took several years before they could catch up with the missing COLAs.
If the budget picture improves, the state could partially fund COLA by 2010-11 and with Measure W, the district would be able to survive without further cuts to teachers and programs. If the state fully funds COLA, in three years years from now, the district would not need to renew the Measure W portion of the parcel tax.
If you are like me, you probably have the same question I did at this point. The budget forecast looks bleak as does the economic forecast. That means if the state does not fund COLA in 2010-11, we end up back in deficits. At that point, does Measure W really matter?
The answer is yes. First of all, Measure W locks into place those programs that it funds. That money is not discretionary money anymore, it is de facto restrictive, just as Measure Q money must go to the programs that it was written to fund.
Second, a $1.2 million deficit is better than a $3.6 million deficit. Neither are good, but the cuts for the former are obviously much less than the cuts for the latter.
Finally, perhaps the worst news for last is the possibility that the state might in the next few months suspend Prop. 98 which guarantees a certain proportion of the budget to schools. If that happens, money could be even more scarce for local school districts. That would make it all the more important that the districts be able to raise money locally to keep programs and teachers afloat.
The bottom line in this analysis is that the problems that the district faces beginning the year 2009-10 are limited to state budget problems. The $2.4 million projected deficit is a direct result of the anticipated zero COLA. It has nothing to do with fiscal mismanagement and nothing to do with declining enrollment. To reiterate, if the state suddenly came through with COLA for 2009-10, Measure W would not be needed and the district would be able to balance its budget.
—Doug Paul Davis reporting
Finally, perhaps the worst news for last is the possibility that the state might in the next few months suspend Prop. 98 which guarantees a certain proportion of the budget to schools. If that happens, money could be even more scarce for local school districts. That would make it all the more important that the districts be able to raise money locally to keep programs and teachers afloat.
I was watching the Oct. 2 board meeting (video archives at dctv), and the information I understood is that it would take approval of the legislature to allow mid-year cuts to go through for k-12 education. But the governor could make cuts, unilaterally, in other parts of the state budget, midyear.
Midyear cuts probably could not affect teachers currently assigned, because they are under contract for the year (maybe some of you remember that mid-March was an important deadline for issuing pink slips so that the district could dismiss teachers for the following school year).
But the district could be required to make cuts to certain other categorical funds that don’t affect employee contracts.
If the state were to do this, there would probably be tremendous “blowback” from school districts statewide, because most districts have depleted their reserve funds to survive this last rounds of cuts.
If midyear cuts were made, any local parcel tax money would be safe.
Finally, perhaps the worst news for last is the possibility that the state might in the next few months suspend Prop. 98 which guarantees a certain proportion of the budget to schools. If that happens, money could be even more scarce for local school districts. That would make it all the more important that the districts be able to raise money locally to keep programs and teachers afloat.
I was watching the Oct. 2 board meeting (video archives at dctv), and the information I understood is that it would take approval of the legislature to allow mid-year cuts to go through for k-12 education. But the governor could make cuts, unilaterally, in other parts of the state budget, midyear.
Midyear cuts probably could not affect teachers currently assigned, because they are under contract for the year (maybe some of you remember that mid-March was an important deadline for issuing pink slips so that the district could dismiss teachers for the following school year).
But the district could be required to make cuts to certain other categorical funds that don’t affect employee contracts.
If the state were to do this, there would probably be tremendous “blowback” from school districts statewide, because most districts have depleted their reserve funds to survive this last rounds of cuts.
If midyear cuts were made, any local parcel tax money would be safe.
Finally, perhaps the worst news for last is the possibility that the state might in the next few months suspend Prop. 98 which guarantees a certain proportion of the budget to schools. If that happens, money could be even more scarce for local school districts. That would make it all the more important that the districts be able to raise money locally to keep programs and teachers afloat.
I was watching the Oct. 2 board meeting (video archives at dctv), and the information I understood is that it would take approval of the legislature to allow mid-year cuts to go through for k-12 education. But the governor could make cuts, unilaterally, in other parts of the state budget, midyear.
Midyear cuts probably could not affect teachers currently assigned, because they are under contract for the year (maybe some of you remember that mid-March was an important deadline for issuing pink slips so that the district could dismiss teachers for the following school year).
But the district could be required to make cuts to certain other categorical funds that don’t affect employee contracts.
If the state were to do this, there would probably be tremendous “blowback” from school districts statewide, because most districts have depleted their reserve funds to survive this last rounds of cuts.
If midyear cuts were made, any local parcel tax money would be safe.
Finally, perhaps the worst news for last is the possibility that the state might in the next few months suspend Prop. 98 which guarantees a certain proportion of the budget to schools. If that happens, money could be even more scarce for local school districts. That would make it all the more important that the districts be able to raise money locally to keep programs and teachers afloat.
I was watching the Oct. 2 board meeting (video archives at dctv), and the information I understood is that it would take approval of the legislature to allow mid-year cuts to go through for k-12 education. But the governor could make cuts, unilaterally, in other parts of the state budget, midyear.
Midyear cuts probably could not affect teachers currently assigned, because they are under contract for the year (maybe some of you remember that mid-March was an important deadline for issuing pink slips so that the district could dismiss teachers for the following school year).
But the district could be required to make cuts to certain other categorical funds that don’t affect employee contracts.
If the state were to do this, there would probably be tremendous “blowback” from school districts statewide, because most districts have depleted their reserve funds to survive this last rounds of cuts.
If midyear cuts were made, any local parcel tax money would be safe.
Building Harper where they did, and Koramatsu (at all) were exceptionally expensive and idiotic moves which have tied the hands of this school district now that money isn’t free anymore. W is great in that it helps stop the staffing bleed that past decisions of the DJUSD contributed to, but it doesn’t address the fact that west Davis is going to lose a major neighborhood school. This will force our 12-15 year old kids to drive ride their bikes for 3 miles thru Davis every morning and afternoon, thru controlled and uncontrolled intersections and thru fog, rain and cold during the winter.
It’s just amazing to me that nobody east of Hwy 113 seems to want to notice, or care that closure of Emerson Jr. HS is imminent.
Building Harper where they did, and Koramatsu (at all) were exceptionally expensive and idiotic moves which have tied the hands of this school district now that money isn’t free anymore. W is great in that it helps stop the staffing bleed that past decisions of the DJUSD contributed to, but it doesn’t address the fact that west Davis is going to lose a major neighborhood school. This will force our 12-15 year old kids to drive ride their bikes for 3 miles thru Davis every morning and afternoon, thru controlled and uncontrolled intersections and thru fog, rain and cold during the winter.
It’s just amazing to me that nobody east of Hwy 113 seems to want to notice, or care that closure of Emerson Jr. HS is imminent.
Building Harper where they did, and Koramatsu (at all) were exceptionally expensive and idiotic moves which have tied the hands of this school district now that money isn’t free anymore. W is great in that it helps stop the staffing bleed that past decisions of the DJUSD contributed to, but it doesn’t address the fact that west Davis is going to lose a major neighborhood school. This will force our 12-15 year old kids to drive ride their bikes for 3 miles thru Davis every morning and afternoon, thru controlled and uncontrolled intersections and thru fog, rain and cold during the winter.
It’s just amazing to me that nobody east of Hwy 113 seems to want to notice, or care that closure of Emerson Jr. HS is imminent.
Building Harper where they did, and Koramatsu (at all) were exceptionally expensive and idiotic moves which have tied the hands of this school district now that money isn’t free anymore. W is great in that it helps stop the staffing bleed that past decisions of the DJUSD contributed to, but it doesn’t address the fact that west Davis is going to lose a major neighborhood school. This will force our 12-15 year old kids to drive ride their bikes for 3 miles thru Davis every morning and afternoon, thru controlled and uncontrolled intersections and thru fog, rain and cold during the winter.
It’s just amazing to me that nobody east of Hwy 113 seems to want to notice, or care that closure of Emerson Jr. HS is imminent.
I think it’s highly unlikely if W passes that Emerson closes.
I think it’s highly unlikely if W passes that Emerson closes.
I think it’s highly unlikely if W passes that Emerson closes.
I think it’s highly unlikely if W passes that Emerson closes.
Yes their water bill has gone up. I have called Davis High three times now over the past five months. Every night their stupid sprinkler next to the sign and fire hydrant is a geyser sending thousands of gallons of water down the drain. It has been going on since at least the start of the summer. Some bored district employee takes the call and probably round-files it… They simply don’t care. Thats the drawback to public employees… With that attitude its no wonder they are out of money. Perhaps a few layoffs in the office are a good idea!
Yes their water bill has gone up. I have called Davis High three times now over the past five months. Every night their stupid sprinkler next to the sign and fire hydrant is a geyser sending thousands of gallons of water down the drain. It has been going on since at least the start of the summer. Some bored district employee takes the call and probably round-files it… They simply don’t care. Thats the drawback to public employees… With that attitude its no wonder they are out of money. Perhaps a few layoffs in the office are a good idea!
Yes their water bill has gone up. I have called Davis High three times now over the past five months. Every night their stupid sprinkler next to the sign and fire hydrant is a geyser sending thousands of gallons of water down the drain. It has been going on since at least the start of the summer. Some bored district employee takes the call and probably round-files it… They simply don’t care. Thats the drawback to public employees… With that attitude its no wonder they are out of money. Perhaps a few layoffs in the office are a good idea!
Yes their water bill has gone up. I have called Davis High three times now over the past five months. Every night their stupid sprinkler next to the sign and fire hydrant is a geyser sending thousands of gallons of water down the drain. It has been going on since at least the start of the summer. Some bored district employee takes the call and probably round-files it… They simply don’t care. Thats the drawback to public employees… With that attitude its no wonder they are out of money. Perhaps a few layoffs in the office are a good idea!
That issue came up at the Sept. 18 school board meeting — use of water and electricity. The report at the meeting was that monitoring (at least in other instances) had brought utilities costs down.
I sent the above complaint to the facilities director. Let’s see what happens.
That issue came up at the Sept. 18 school board meeting — use of water and electricity. The report at the meeting was that monitoring (at least in other instances) had brought utilities costs down.
I sent the above complaint to the facilities director. Let’s see what happens.
That issue came up at the Sept. 18 school board meeting — use of water and electricity. The report at the meeting was that monitoring (at least in other instances) had brought utilities costs down.
I sent the above complaint to the facilities director. Let’s see what happens.
That issue came up at the Sept. 18 school board meeting — use of water and electricity. The report at the meeting was that monitoring (at least in other instances) had brought utilities costs down.
I sent the above complaint to the facilities director. Let’s see what happens.
“Thats the drawback to public employees… With that attitude its no wonder they are out of money. Perhaps a few layoffs in the office are a good idea!”
Or perhaps it’s evidence that they are short-staffed due to budget cuts.
“Thats the drawback to public employees… With that attitude its no wonder they are out of money. Perhaps a few layoffs in the office are a good idea!”
Or perhaps it’s evidence that they are short-staffed due to budget cuts.
“Thats the drawback to public employees… With that attitude its no wonder they are out of money. Perhaps a few layoffs in the office are a good idea!”
Or perhaps it’s evidence that they are short-staffed due to budget cuts.
“Thats the drawback to public employees… With that attitude its no wonder they are out of money. Perhaps a few layoffs in the office are a good idea!”
Or perhaps it’s evidence that they are short-staffed due to budget cuts.
Kingsley usually posts this info. I guess I’m beating him to the punch.
For more information on Measure W or to volunteer, please sign up at our website, http://www.yesw.org or email Kingsley at meltonkl@yahoo.com.
Kingsley usually posts this info. I guess I’m beating him to the punch.
For more information on Measure W or to volunteer, please sign up at our website, http://www.yesw.org or email Kingsley at meltonkl@yahoo.com.
Kingsley usually posts this info. I guess I’m beating him to the punch.
For more information on Measure W or to volunteer, please sign up at our website, http://www.yesw.org or email Kingsley at meltonkl@yahoo.com.
Kingsley usually posts this info. I guess I’m beating him to the punch.
For more information on Measure W or to volunteer, please sign up at our website, http://www.yesw.org or email Kingsley at meltonkl@yahoo.com.
If you have a genuine interest in the school district budget planning, I recommend watching the Oct. 2 school board meeting, available here.
It is sobering, and it gives a more comprehensive context for how Measure W fits in locally. Budget discussion begins about 45 minutes into the meeting.
Unfortunately the Enterprise didn’t report much of this, as far as I could find.
If you have a genuine interest in the school district budget planning, I recommend watching the Oct. 2 school board meeting, available here.
It is sobering, and it gives a more comprehensive context for how Measure W fits in locally. Budget discussion begins about 45 minutes into the meeting.
Unfortunately the Enterprise didn’t report much of this, as far as I could find.
If you have a genuine interest in the school district budget planning, I recommend watching the Oct. 2 school board meeting, available here.
It is sobering, and it gives a more comprehensive context for how Measure W fits in locally. Budget discussion begins about 45 minutes into the meeting.
Unfortunately the Enterprise didn’t report much of this, as far as I could find.
If you have a genuine interest in the school district budget planning, I recommend watching the Oct. 2 school board meeting, available here.
It is sobering, and it gives a more comprehensive context for how Measure W fits in locally. Budget discussion begins about 45 minutes into the meeting.
Unfortunately the Enterprise didn’t report much of this, as far as I could find.
“The $2.4 million projected deficit is a direct result of the anticipated zero COLA. It has nothing to do with fiscal mismanagement and nothing to do with declining enrollment. To reiterate, if the state suddenly came through with COLA for 2009-10, Measure W would not be needed and the district would be able to balance its budget.”
How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.
Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.
At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA? Another parcel tax? And another, and another? If that is the case, why not pass an honest parcel tax, that clearly states it is to be used for the funding of the teachers’ COLA that the state will not fund?
It is the doublespeak that is getting very frustrating. The fact of the matter is that the School District said they were closing Valley Oak bc of declining enrollment, and then it turned out they were wrong – enrollment went up. The School Bd refused to give VO a chance at being a charter school, absolutely sabatoged any opportunity. Made sure to fill half the building w an “educational center” to make sure VO could not reprise itself. Yet VO was closed for no good reason. Yet the School District will not admit it made a mistake. Their excuses are laughable.
Emerson was threatened w closure – at first bc of budgetary concerns and declining enrollment, then bc it needed an overhaul that would be too expensive to fund. Yet Emerson serves an entire one third of the town, and redrawing of the school district lines would take care of any “declining enrollment” problems.
It is the arbitrariness and lack of accountability that I find particularly disturbing. Those of us who have lived in Davis a while, and had our children go through this school system, have seen this same scenario play out over and over again. At what point will we demand more honesty, straight talking, more appropriate budgeting, accountability?
And while I am on the subject, did you get a gander at the article on the UCD Band? I am so glad it finally came out – this awful infantile behavior has been going on for years, while UCD does nothing. It as if schools in general are asleep at the switch, and just do not want to deal with the real problems going on right under their noses. In the public School District, they don’t seem to have a very good handle on budgeting properly; at UCD they refuse to be held accountable for student misbehavior – and can’t budget well either.
“The $2.4 million projected deficit is a direct result of the anticipated zero COLA. It has nothing to do with fiscal mismanagement and nothing to do with declining enrollment. To reiterate, if the state suddenly came through with COLA for 2009-10, Measure W would not be needed and the district would be able to balance its budget.”
How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.
Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.
At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA? Another parcel tax? And another, and another? If that is the case, why not pass an honest parcel tax, that clearly states it is to be used for the funding of the teachers’ COLA that the state will not fund?
It is the doublespeak that is getting very frustrating. The fact of the matter is that the School District said they were closing Valley Oak bc of declining enrollment, and then it turned out they were wrong – enrollment went up. The School Bd refused to give VO a chance at being a charter school, absolutely sabatoged any opportunity. Made sure to fill half the building w an “educational center” to make sure VO could not reprise itself. Yet VO was closed for no good reason. Yet the School District will not admit it made a mistake. Their excuses are laughable.
Emerson was threatened w closure – at first bc of budgetary concerns and declining enrollment, then bc it needed an overhaul that would be too expensive to fund. Yet Emerson serves an entire one third of the town, and redrawing of the school district lines would take care of any “declining enrollment” problems.
It is the arbitrariness and lack of accountability that I find particularly disturbing. Those of us who have lived in Davis a while, and had our children go through this school system, have seen this same scenario play out over and over again. At what point will we demand more honesty, straight talking, more appropriate budgeting, accountability?
And while I am on the subject, did you get a gander at the article on the UCD Band? I am so glad it finally came out – this awful infantile behavior has been going on for years, while UCD does nothing. It as if schools in general are asleep at the switch, and just do not want to deal with the real problems going on right under their noses. In the public School District, they don’t seem to have a very good handle on budgeting properly; at UCD they refuse to be held accountable for student misbehavior – and can’t budget well either.
“The $2.4 million projected deficit is a direct result of the anticipated zero COLA. It has nothing to do with fiscal mismanagement and nothing to do with declining enrollment. To reiterate, if the state suddenly came through with COLA for 2009-10, Measure W would not be needed and the district would be able to balance its budget.”
How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.
Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.
At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA? Another parcel tax? And another, and another? If that is the case, why not pass an honest parcel tax, that clearly states it is to be used for the funding of the teachers’ COLA that the state will not fund?
It is the doublespeak that is getting very frustrating. The fact of the matter is that the School District said they were closing Valley Oak bc of declining enrollment, and then it turned out they were wrong – enrollment went up. The School Bd refused to give VO a chance at being a charter school, absolutely sabatoged any opportunity. Made sure to fill half the building w an “educational center” to make sure VO could not reprise itself. Yet VO was closed for no good reason. Yet the School District will not admit it made a mistake. Their excuses are laughable.
Emerson was threatened w closure – at first bc of budgetary concerns and declining enrollment, then bc it needed an overhaul that would be too expensive to fund. Yet Emerson serves an entire one third of the town, and redrawing of the school district lines would take care of any “declining enrollment” problems.
It is the arbitrariness and lack of accountability that I find particularly disturbing. Those of us who have lived in Davis a while, and had our children go through this school system, have seen this same scenario play out over and over again. At what point will we demand more honesty, straight talking, more appropriate budgeting, accountability?
And while I am on the subject, did you get a gander at the article on the UCD Band? I am so glad it finally came out – this awful infantile behavior has been going on for years, while UCD does nothing. It as if schools in general are asleep at the switch, and just do not want to deal with the real problems going on right under their noses. In the public School District, they don’t seem to have a very good handle on budgeting properly; at UCD they refuse to be held accountable for student misbehavior – and can’t budget well either.
“The $2.4 million projected deficit is a direct result of the anticipated zero COLA. It has nothing to do with fiscal mismanagement and nothing to do with declining enrollment. To reiterate, if the state suddenly came through with COLA for 2009-10, Measure W would not be needed and the district would be able to balance its budget.”
How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.
Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.
At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA? Another parcel tax? And another, and another? If that is the case, why not pass an honest parcel tax, that clearly states it is to be used for the funding of the teachers’ COLA that the state will not fund?
It is the doublespeak that is getting very frustrating. The fact of the matter is that the School District said they were closing Valley Oak bc of declining enrollment, and then it turned out they were wrong – enrollment went up. The School Bd refused to give VO a chance at being a charter school, absolutely sabatoged any opportunity. Made sure to fill half the building w an “educational center” to make sure VO could not reprise itself. Yet VO was closed for no good reason. Yet the School District will not admit it made a mistake. Their excuses are laughable.
Emerson was threatened w closure – at first bc of budgetary concerns and declining enrollment, then bc it needed an overhaul that would be too expensive to fund. Yet Emerson serves an entire one third of the town, and redrawing of the school district lines would take care of any “declining enrollment” problems.
It is the arbitrariness and lack of accountability that I find particularly disturbing. Those of us who have lived in Davis a while, and had our children go through this school system, have seen this same scenario play out over and over again. At what point will we demand more honesty, straight talking, more appropriate budgeting, accountability?
And while I am on the subject, did you get a gander at the article on the UCD Band? I am so glad it finally came out – this awful infantile behavior has been going on for years, while UCD does nothing. It as if schools in general are asleep at the switch, and just do not want to deal with the real problems going on right under their noses. In the public School District, they don’t seem to have a very good handle on budgeting properly; at UCD they refuse to be held accountable for student misbehavior – and can’t budget well either.
“Each year expenses go up. If you think about your household expenses as an analogy–let us say you have the same job and you do not get a cost of living increase to your salary from one year to another. You live in the same home and you pay the same bills each year. If you look at your expenses from this year and compare them to last year, you will notice that expenses go up. Gas prices rose, food prices rose, energy costs rose, water bills rose dramatically, etc.
If you do not get a payraise for cost of living, you in effect make less money this year than last year.”
right. so people have less money to pay for W than they did last time. good analysis DPD.
“Each year expenses go up. If you think about your household expenses as an analogy–let us say you have the same job and you do not get a cost of living increase to your salary from one year to another. You live in the same home and you pay the same bills each year. If you look at your expenses from this year and compare them to last year, you will notice that expenses go up. Gas prices rose, food prices rose, energy costs rose, water bills rose dramatically, etc.
If you do not get a payraise for cost of living, you in effect make less money this year than last year.”
right. so people have less money to pay for W than they did last time. good analysis DPD.
“Each year expenses go up. If you think about your household expenses as an analogy–let us say you have the same job and you do not get a cost of living increase to your salary from one year to another. You live in the same home and you pay the same bills each year. If you look at your expenses from this year and compare them to last year, you will notice that expenses go up. Gas prices rose, food prices rose, energy costs rose, water bills rose dramatically, etc.
If you do not get a payraise for cost of living, you in effect make less money this year than last year.”
right. so people have less money to pay for W than they did last time. good analysis DPD.
“Each year expenses go up. If you think about your household expenses as an analogy–let us say you have the same job and you do not get a cost of living increase to your salary from one year to another. You live in the same home and you pay the same bills each year. If you look at your expenses from this year and compare them to last year, you will notice that expenses go up. Gas prices rose, food prices rose, energy costs rose, water bills rose dramatically, etc.
If you do not get a payraise for cost of living, you in effect make less money this year than last year.”
right. so people have less money to pay for W than they did last time. good analysis DPD.
“How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.”
Yes they do. That is the money shortfall. However the inflation has to be funded it is not discretionary. So if the district is short on money, they cannot suddenly not pay step and column. They have to cut programs. The programs that they would cut is what Measure W funds.
“Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.”
I’ll have more on crunch lunch later in the week. I believe you are completely wrong on this (also it is a very minor portion of Measure Q which also funds things like librarians and seventh period classes).
“At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA?”
I explained that in my article–did you read it?
“How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.”
Yes they do. That is the money shortfall. However the inflation has to be funded it is not discretionary. So if the district is short on money, they cannot suddenly not pay step and column. They have to cut programs. The programs that they would cut is what Measure W funds.
“Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.”
I’ll have more on crunch lunch later in the week. I believe you are completely wrong on this (also it is a very minor portion of Measure Q which also funds things like librarians and seventh period classes).
“At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA?”
I explained that in my article–did you read it?
“How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.”
Yes they do. That is the money shortfall. However the inflation has to be funded it is not discretionary. So if the district is short on money, they cannot suddenly not pay step and column. They have to cut programs. The programs that they would cut is what Measure W funds.
“Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.”
I’ll have more on crunch lunch later in the week. I believe you are completely wrong on this (also it is a very minor portion of Measure Q which also funds things like librarians and seventh period classes).
“At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA?”
I explained that in my article–did you read it?
“How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.”
Yes they do. That is the money shortfall. However the inflation has to be funded it is not discretionary. So if the district is short on money, they cannot suddenly not pay step and column. They have to cut programs. The programs that they would cut is what Measure W funds.
“Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.”
I’ll have more on crunch lunch later in the week. I believe you are completely wrong on this (also it is a very minor portion of Measure Q which also funds things like librarians and seventh period classes).
“At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA?”
I explained that in my article–did you read it?
“”At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA?”
I explained that in my article–did you read it?”
Yes, I did – and the forgone conclusion one must come up with is that so long as the state will not pay the COLA, we must? Do you really think the taxpayer will be able to afford that? Or is it inevitable that some boutique programs must be cut? The taxpayer does not have a bottomless pocket either, as the previous commenter noted.
“”At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA?”
I explained that in my article–did you read it?”
Yes, I did – and the forgone conclusion one must come up with is that so long as the state will not pay the COLA, we must? Do you really think the taxpayer will be able to afford that? Or is it inevitable that some boutique programs must be cut? The taxpayer does not have a bottomless pocket either, as the previous commenter noted.
“”At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA?”
I explained that in my article–did you read it?”
Yes, I did – and the forgone conclusion one must come up with is that so long as the state will not pay the COLA, we must? Do you really think the taxpayer will be able to afford that? Or is it inevitable that some boutique programs must be cut? The taxpayer does not have a bottomless pocket either, as the previous commenter noted.
“”At what point does the School District learn to live within its means? For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA?”
I explained that in my article–did you read it?”
Yes, I did – and the forgone conclusion one must come up with is that so long as the state will not pay the COLA, we must? Do you really think the taxpayer will be able to afford that? Or is it inevitable that some boutique programs must be cut? The taxpayer does not have a bottomless pocket either, as the previous commenter noted.
I addressed the point explicitly–I even asked the same question.
The answer is that they will not try to pass another parcel tax.
If Measure W passes, they would be alright for 2009-10. 2010-11 would be problematic if the economy is still going south.
The district would have to plan for $1.2 million in cuts two years down the line. That won’t be pleasant, but it is not the end of the world.
Without Measure W, you are looking at $2.4 million deficit for 2009-10 and another $1.2 million deficit for 2010-11 after making over $2 million in cuts the year before.
I addressed the point explicitly–I even asked the same question.
The answer is that they will not try to pass another parcel tax.
If Measure W passes, they would be alright for 2009-10. 2010-11 would be problematic if the economy is still going south.
The district would have to plan for $1.2 million in cuts two years down the line. That won’t be pleasant, but it is not the end of the world.
Without Measure W, you are looking at $2.4 million deficit for 2009-10 and another $1.2 million deficit for 2010-11 after making over $2 million in cuts the year before.
I addressed the point explicitly–I even asked the same question.
The answer is that they will not try to pass another parcel tax.
If Measure W passes, they would be alright for 2009-10. 2010-11 would be problematic if the economy is still going south.
The district would have to plan for $1.2 million in cuts two years down the line. That won’t be pleasant, but it is not the end of the world.
Without Measure W, you are looking at $2.4 million deficit for 2009-10 and another $1.2 million deficit for 2010-11 after making over $2 million in cuts the year before.
I addressed the point explicitly–I even asked the same question.
The answer is that they will not try to pass another parcel tax.
If Measure W passes, they would be alright for 2009-10. 2010-11 would be problematic if the economy is still going south.
The district would have to plan for $1.2 million in cuts two years down the line. That won’t be pleasant, but it is not the end of the world.
Without Measure W, you are looking at $2.4 million deficit for 2009-10 and another $1.2 million deficit for 2010-11 after making over $2 million in cuts the year before.
“Yes, I did – and the forgone conclusion one must come up with is that so long as the state will not pay the COLA, we must? Do you really think the taxpayer will be able to afford that?”
It is much cheaper than the alternatives.
“Or is it inevitable that some boutique programs must be cut?”
The boutique programs that are available to cut have already been cut. Everything else is mandated by the state, or clearly contributes to student success. If you cut Measure W programs then you will clearly degrade or reduce levels of student success.
Past “boutique” programs that you might recognize from your school days that have long since been cut by Davis schools:
*elementary PE teachers
*school buses
*general elementary music classes (now kids can hum along to current TV theme songs, but do not know any Stephen Foster songs (“Oh, Susana”) or Go Tell Aunt Rhody, etc.
I have a longer list somewhere else, but that’s what I remember immediately. These were available in Davis schools in 1970.
“The taxpayer does not have a bottomless pocket either, as the previous commenter noted.”
That is true, but the return on the dollar for public education is much greater than it is for nearly every other publicly funded program.
Someone will have to help pay for your medicare and possibly social security expenses in the future. I just hope that the earning power (and taxpaying power) of future workers will be able to cover that. Giving them a good education at the outset is the best way to ensure that.
“Yes, I did – and the forgone conclusion one must come up with is that so long as the state will not pay the COLA, we must? Do you really think the taxpayer will be able to afford that?”
It is much cheaper than the alternatives.
“Or is it inevitable that some boutique programs must be cut?”
The boutique programs that are available to cut have already been cut. Everything else is mandated by the state, or clearly contributes to student success. If you cut Measure W programs then you will clearly degrade or reduce levels of student success.
Past “boutique” programs that you might recognize from your school days that have long since been cut by Davis schools:
*elementary PE teachers
*school buses
*general elementary music classes (now kids can hum along to current TV theme songs, but do not know any Stephen Foster songs (“Oh, Susana”) or Go Tell Aunt Rhody, etc.
I have a longer list somewhere else, but that’s what I remember immediately. These were available in Davis schools in 1970.
“The taxpayer does not have a bottomless pocket either, as the previous commenter noted.”
That is true, but the return on the dollar for public education is much greater than it is for nearly every other publicly funded program.
Someone will have to help pay for your medicare and possibly social security expenses in the future. I just hope that the earning power (and taxpaying power) of future workers will be able to cover that. Giving them a good education at the outset is the best way to ensure that.
“Yes, I did – and the forgone conclusion one must come up with is that so long as the state will not pay the COLA, we must? Do you really think the taxpayer will be able to afford that?”
It is much cheaper than the alternatives.
“Or is it inevitable that some boutique programs must be cut?”
The boutique programs that are available to cut have already been cut. Everything else is mandated by the state, or clearly contributes to student success. If you cut Measure W programs then you will clearly degrade or reduce levels of student success.
Past “boutique” programs that you might recognize from your school days that have long since been cut by Davis schools:
*elementary PE teachers
*school buses
*general elementary music classes (now kids can hum along to current TV theme songs, but do not know any Stephen Foster songs (“Oh, Susana”) or Go Tell Aunt Rhody, etc.
I have a longer list somewhere else, but that’s what I remember immediately. These were available in Davis schools in 1970.
“The taxpayer does not have a bottomless pocket either, as the previous commenter noted.”
That is true, but the return on the dollar for public education is much greater than it is for nearly every other publicly funded program.
Someone will have to help pay for your medicare and possibly social security expenses in the future. I just hope that the earning power (and taxpaying power) of future workers will be able to cover that. Giving them a good education at the outset is the best way to ensure that.
“Yes, I did – and the forgone conclusion one must come up with is that so long as the state will not pay the COLA, we must? Do you really think the taxpayer will be able to afford that?”
It is much cheaper than the alternatives.
“Or is it inevitable that some boutique programs must be cut?”
The boutique programs that are available to cut have already been cut. Everything else is mandated by the state, or clearly contributes to student success. If you cut Measure W programs then you will clearly degrade or reduce levels of student success.
Past “boutique” programs that you might recognize from your school days that have long since been cut by Davis schools:
*elementary PE teachers
*school buses
*general elementary music classes (now kids can hum along to current TV theme songs, but do not know any Stephen Foster songs (“Oh, Susana”) or Go Tell Aunt Rhody, etc.
I have a longer list somewhere else, but that’s what I remember immediately. These were available in Davis schools in 1970.
“The taxpayer does not have a bottomless pocket either, as the previous commenter noted.”
That is true, but the return on the dollar for public education is much greater than it is for nearly every other publicly funded program.
Someone will have to help pay for your medicare and possibly social security expenses in the future. I just hope that the earning power (and taxpaying power) of future workers will be able to cover that. Giving them a good education at the outset is the best way to ensure that.
“How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.”
It doesn’t differ from the school district. The district says it is due to cuts in the state budget. COLAs are a cut in the state budget.
“How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.”
It doesn’t differ from the school district. The district says it is due to cuts in the state budget. COLAs are a cut in the state budget.
“How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.”
It doesn’t differ from the school district. The district says it is due to cuts in the state budget. COLAs are a cut in the state budget.
“How come your story differs from that of the School District? They don’t bill Measure W as necessary to fund COLAs that are not funded by the state this year.”
It doesn’t differ from the school district. The district says it is due to cuts in the state budget. COLAs are a cut in the state budget.
“It is the arbitrariness and lack of accountability that I find particularly disturbing.”
Accountability has only increased — standardized test scores w/ breakdown by subgroups, public access to documents has increased with the internet, plenty of performance data, enrollment data, etc. available online, archived digital copies of school board meetings, citizen oversight committees.
“It is the arbitrariness and lack of accountability that I find particularly disturbing.”
Accountability has only increased — standardized test scores w/ breakdown by subgroups, public access to documents has increased with the internet, plenty of performance data, enrollment data, etc. available online, archived digital copies of school board meetings, citizen oversight committees.
“It is the arbitrariness and lack of accountability that I find particularly disturbing.”
Accountability has only increased — standardized test scores w/ breakdown by subgroups, public access to documents has increased with the internet, plenty of performance data, enrollment data, etc. available online, archived digital copies of school board meetings, citizen oversight committees.
“It is the arbitrariness and lack of accountability that I find particularly disturbing.”
Accountability has only increased — standardized test scores w/ breakdown by subgroups, public access to documents has increased with the internet, plenty of performance data, enrollment data, etc. available online, archived digital copies of school board meetings, citizen oversight committees.
For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA? Another parcel tax?
What we saw with the state budget process this year was tremendous political pressure put on the state legislature and governor not to cut k-12 education the way that was proposed in the January version of the draft budget.
I don’t think the governor or legislature could get away with much more in cuts to education without massive uproar, statewide.
The Oct. 2 school board meeting reported that 20 other states made cuts to their state budget. California was the only state that made cuts to the education budget.
For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA? Another parcel tax?
What we saw with the state budget process this year was tremendous political pressure put on the state legislature and governor not to cut k-12 education the way that was proposed in the January version of the draft budget.
I don’t think the governor or legislature could get away with much more in cuts to education without massive uproar, statewide.
The Oct. 2 school board meeting reported that 20 other states made cuts to their state budget. California was the only state that made cuts to the education budget.
For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA? Another parcel tax?
What we saw with the state budget process this year was tremendous political pressure put on the state legislature and governor not to cut k-12 education the way that was proposed in the January version of the draft budget.
I don’t think the governor or legislature could get away with much more in cuts to education without massive uproar, statewide.
The Oct. 2 school board meeting reported that 20 other states made cuts to their state budget. California was the only state that made cuts to the education budget.
For instance, if Measure W is necessary to fund a COLA to teachers, bc the state cut back – what happens when the state fails to fund next year’s COLA? Another parcel tax?
What we saw with the state budget process this year was tremendous political pressure put on the state legislature and governor not to cut k-12 education the way that was proposed in the January version of the draft budget.
I don’t think the governor or legislature could get away with much more in cuts to education without massive uproar, statewide.
The Oct. 2 school board meeting reported that 20 other states made cuts to their state budget. California was the only state that made cuts to the education budget.
When was the last time all state workers took a pay cut, instead of balancing the budget on the backs of taxpayers or firing state workers who were hired last? Is it not time we considered reducing the amount we pay people who work for the government? On the whole, they are making more money with better benefits than equally experienced workers in the productive economy, and once they’ve had their job for five years or more, they cannot easily be fired, even when they are slackers. This imbalance is driving our economy into the toilet.
When was the last time all state workers took a pay cut, instead of balancing the budget on the backs of taxpayers or firing state workers who were hired last? Is it not time we considered reducing the amount we pay people who work for the government? On the whole, they are making more money with better benefits than equally experienced workers in the productive economy, and once they’ve had their job for five years or more, they cannot easily be fired, even when they are slackers. This imbalance is driving our economy into the toilet.
When was the last time all state workers took a pay cut, instead of balancing the budget on the backs of taxpayers or firing state workers who were hired last? Is it not time we considered reducing the amount we pay people who work for the government? On the whole, they are making more money with better benefits than equally experienced workers in the productive economy, and once they’ve had their job for five years or more, they cannot easily be fired, even when they are slackers. This imbalance is driving our economy into the toilet.
When was the last time all state workers took a pay cut, instead of balancing the budget on the backs of taxpayers or firing state workers who were hired last? Is it not time we considered reducing the amount we pay people who work for the government? On the whole, they are making more money with better benefits than equally experienced workers in the productive economy, and once they’ve had their job for five years or more, they cannot easily be fired, even when they are slackers. This imbalance is driving our economy into the toilet.
The best that you are going to get is fewer workers, you will not get lower wages.
The best that you are going to get is fewer workers, you will not get lower wages.
The best that you are going to get is fewer workers, you will not get lower wages.
The best that you are going to get is fewer workers, you will not get lower wages.
In answer to the complaint that public workers are imbalancing our economy:
DJUSD has to play in a free market system w/ respect to paying salaries. Do you think Davis could keep or attract good teachers if it cut salaries?
I don’t find that teacher salaries are very lucrative, particularly given the critical responsibilities that they are given.
DJUSD, if I remember, pays roughly average. Benefits already aren’t that great.
I would expect that more experienced teachers would probably be inclined to stay on rather than retire in this economy, especially given the tanking of the stock market.
I’m so glad that we didn’t go with the social security reform that Bush suggested a few years ago.
In answer to the complaint that public workers are imbalancing our economy:
DJUSD has to play in a free market system w/ respect to paying salaries. Do you think Davis could keep or attract good teachers if it cut salaries?
I don’t find that teacher salaries are very lucrative, particularly given the critical responsibilities that they are given.
DJUSD, if I remember, pays roughly average. Benefits already aren’t that great.
I would expect that more experienced teachers would probably be inclined to stay on rather than retire in this economy, especially given the tanking of the stock market.
I’m so glad that we didn’t go with the social security reform that Bush suggested a few years ago.
In answer to the complaint that public workers are imbalancing our economy:
DJUSD has to play in a free market system w/ respect to paying salaries. Do you think Davis could keep or attract good teachers if it cut salaries?
I don’t find that teacher salaries are very lucrative, particularly given the critical responsibilities that they are given.
DJUSD, if I remember, pays roughly average. Benefits already aren’t that great.
I would expect that more experienced teachers would probably be inclined to stay on rather than retire in this economy, especially given the tanking of the stock market.
I’m so glad that we didn’t go with the social security reform that Bush suggested a few years ago.
In answer to the complaint that public workers are imbalancing our economy:
DJUSD has to play in a free market system w/ respect to paying salaries. Do you think Davis could keep or attract good teachers if it cut salaries?
I don’t find that teacher salaries are very lucrative, particularly given the critical responsibilities that they are given.
DJUSD, if I remember, pays roughly average. Benefits already aren’t that great.
I would expect that more experienced teachers would probably be inclined to stay on rather than retire in this economy, especially given the tanking of the stock market.
I’m so glad that we didn’t go with the social security reform that Bush suggested a few years ago.
“The fact of the matter is that the School District said they were closing Valley Oak bc of declining enrollment, and then it turned out they were wrong – enrollment went up.”
There isn’t enough enrollment, still, to justify running a 9th elementary school. The district wastes extra money on admin and support staff if they do.
If enrollment continues to go up in future years, however, there is absolutely no reason for them to be putting up another bond measure to build another elementary school. They can and should reopen Valley Oak first.
If the district can keep its current programs, it will definitely attract more enrollment. I think that’s part of the reason enrollment went up this year — its programs. The district can secure its current programs by passing Measure W.
“The fact of the matter is that the School District said they were closing Valley Oak bc of declining enrollment, and then it turned out they were wrong – enrollment went up.”
There isn’t enough enrollment, still, to justify running a 9th elementary school. The district wastes extra money on admin and support staff if they do.
If enrollment continues to go up in future years, however, there is absolutely no reason for them to be putting up another bond measure to build another elementary school. They can and should reopen Valley Oak first.
If the district can keep its current programs, it will definitely attract more enrollment. I think that’s part of the reason enrollment went up this year — its programs. The district can secure its current programs by passing Measure W.
“The fact of the matter is that the School District said they were closing Valley Oak bc of declining enrollment, and then it turned out they were wrong – enrollment went up.”
There isn’t enough enrollment, still, to justify running a 9th elementary school. The district wastes extra money on admin and support staff if they do.
If enrollment continues to go up in future years, however, there is absolutely no reason for them to be putting up another bond measure to build another elementary school. They can and should reopen Valley Oak first.
If the district can keep its current programs, it will definitely attract more enrollment. I think that’s part of the reason enrollment went up this year — its programs. The district can secure its current programs by passing Measure W.
“The fact of the matter is that the School District said they were closing Valley Oak bc of declining enrollment, and then it turned out they were wrong – enrollment went up.”
There isn’t enough enrollment, still, to justify running a 9th elementary school. The district wastes extra money on admin and support staff if they do.
If enrollment continues to go up in future years, however, there is absolutely no reason for them to be putting up another bond measure to build another elementary school. They can and should reopen Valley Oak first.
If the district can keep its current programs, it will definitely attract more enrollment. I think that’s part of the reason enrollment went up this year — its programs. The district can secure its current programs by passing Measure W.
“Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.”
Is this comment for real???
Do you work for Frito-Lay, by chance? Hostess?
Do you see what garbage kids often eat these days?
When I see opinions like this, I’m not surprised that poor nutrition among kids has become such a big issue in our country. Not that they don’t have something to eat, but that they choose the wrong things to eat.
“Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.”
Is this comment for real???
Do you work for Frito-Lay, by chance? Hostess?
Do you see what garbage kids often eat these days?
When I see opinions like this, I’m not surprised that poor nutrition among kids has become such a big issue in our country. Not that they don’t have something to eat, but that they choose the wrong things to eat.
“Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.”
Is this comment for real???
Do you work for Frito-Lay, by chance? Hostess?
Do you see what garbage kids often eat these days?
When I see opinions like this, I’m not surprised that poor nutrition among kids has become such a big issue in our country. Not that they don’t have something to eat, but that they choose the wrong things to eat.
“Measure Q was necessary too, according to the School District, but I am not convinced it paid for anything absolutely NECESSARY, such as the Crunch Lunch program – a salad bar for our kids.”
Is this comment for real???
Do you work for Frito-Lay, by chance? Hostess?
Do you see what garbage kids often eat these days?
When I see opinions like this, I’m not surprised that poor nutrition among kids has become such a big issue in our country. Not that they don’t have something to eat, but that they choose the wrong things to eat.
Uh-oh… there it is!
someone made another argument for cutting back on school nutrition.
a cafeteria FOOD FIGHT!
Uh-oh… there it is!
someone made another argument for cutting back on school nutrition.
a cafeteria FOOD FIGHT!
Uh-oh… there it is!
someone made another argument for cutting back on school nutrition.
a cafeteria FOOD FIGHT!
Uh-oh… there it is!
someone made another argument for cutting back on school nutrition.
a cafeteria FOOD FIGHT!
The $2.4 million projected deficit is a direct result of the anticipated zero COLA. It has nothing to do with fiscal mismanagement and nothing to do with declining enrollment. To reiterate, if the state suddenly came through with COLA for 2009-10, Measure W would not be needed and the district would be able to balance its budget.
Excuse me DPD, but you can be an apologist for the school board all you want. They have been wasting our money from the beginning and you know it. Don’t play dumb.
Excuse me DPD, but what is the price for your soul?
The $2.4 million projected deficit is a direct result of the anticipated zero COLA. It has nothing to do with fiscal mismanagement and nothing to do with declining enrollment. To reiterate, if the state suddenly came through with COLA for 2009-10, Measure W would not be needed and the district would be able to balance its budget.
Excuse me DPD, but you can be an apologist for the school board all you want. They have been wasting our money from the beginning and you know it. Don’t play dumb.
Excuse me DPD, but what is the price for your soul?
The $2.4 million projected deficit is a direct result of the anticipated zero COLA. It has nothing to do with fiscal mismanagement and nothing to do with declining enrollment. To reiterate, if the state suddenly came through with COLA for 2009-10, Measure W would not be needed and the district would be able to balance its budget.
Excuse me DPD, but you can be an apologist for the school board all you want. They have been wasting our money from the beginning and you know it. Don’t play dumb.
Excuse me DPD, but what is the price for your soul?
The $2.4 million projected deficit is a direct result of the anticipated zero COLA. It has nothing to do with fiscal mismanagement and nothing to do with declining enrollment. To reiterate, if the state suddenly came through with COLA for 2009-10, Measure W would not be needed and the district would be able to balance its budget.
Excuse me DPD, but you can be an apologist for the school board all you want. They have been wasting our money from the beginning and you know it. Don’t play dumb.
Excuse me DPD, but what is the price for your soul?
You’ve seen the numbers that I’ve presented, I look forward to seeing you backing up your assertions with facts.
You’ve seen the numbers that I’ve presented, I look forward to seeing you backing up your assertions with facts.
You’ve seen the numbers that I’ve presented, I look forward to seeing you backing up your assertions with facts.
You’ve seen the numbers that I’ve presented, I look forward to seeing you backing up your assertions with facts.
“The district has no control over these increases, they are built into the collective bargaining agreement.”
The district approves the collective bargaining agreement.
“The district has no control over these increases, they are built into the collective bargaining agreement.”
The district approves the collective bargaining agreement.
“The district has no control over these increases, they are built into the collective bargaining agreement.”
The district approves the collective bargaining agreement.
“The district has no control over these increases, they are built into the collective bargaining agreement.”
The district approves the collective bargaining agreement.
The cost of living adjustments are bad public policy. When the state has less money, the workers, including slackers, get this increase in pay. But that’s not the only problem. The other problem is on the benefit side, pensions and medical. Those costs go up much more than colas, the result being that the transfer of income from the taxpayers to the to taxtakers is much higher than the cost of living increase. When tax receipts are down, therefore, the state just goes deep into debt. We already have the highest tax rates for sales taxes and income taxes of any state in the country. I have a PhD in biology (I work for a private company) and I make about 75% of the salary of a CalTrans supervisor ($100,000/year) with no college education and the same number of years on the job. I pay high taxes so that supervisor can afford a much better retirement and a better health care program. And I have to pay back huge college loans. A colleague of mine recently moved to Arkansas, where it costs much less to live and the taxes are much lower. If California doesn’t start to rein in the costs of state workers, no one in my position will stay in California, and that will harm our state immeasurably.
The cost of living adjustments are bad public policy. When the state has less money, the workers, including slackers, get this increase in pay. But that’s not the only problem. The other problem is on the benefit side, pensions and medical. Those costs go up much more than colas, the result being that the transfer of income from the taxpayers to the to taxtakers is much higher than the cost of living increase. When tax receipts are down, therefore, the state just goes deep into debt. We already have the highest tax rates for sales taxes and income taxes of any state in the country. I have a PhD in biology (I work for a private company) and I make about 75% of the salary of a CalTrans supervisor ($100,000/year) with no college education and the same number of years on the job. I pay high taxes so that supervisor can afford a much better retirement and a better health care program. And I have to pay back huge college loans. A colleague of mine recently moved to Arkansas, where it costs much less to live and the taxes are much lower. If California doesn’t start to rein in the costs of state workers, no one in my position will stay in California, and that will harm our state immeasurably.
The cost of living adjustments are bad public policy. When the state has less money, the workers, including slackers, get this increase in pay. But that’s not the only problem. The other problem is on the benefit side, pensions and medical. Those costs go up much more than colas, the result being that the transfer of income from the taxpayers to the to taxtakers is much higher than the cost of living increase. When tax receipts are down, therefore, the state just goes deep into debt. We already have the highest tax rates for sales taxes and income taxes of any state in the country. I have a PhD in biology (I work for a private company) and I make about 75% of the salary of a CalTrans supervisor ($100,000/year) with no college education and the same number of years on the job. I pay high taxes so that supervisor can afford a much better retirement and a better health care program. And I have to pay back huge college loans. A colleague of mine recently moved to Arkansas, where it costs much less to live and the taxes are much lower. If California doesn’t start to rein in the costs of state workers, no one in my position will stay in California, and that will harm our state immeasurably.
The cost of living adjustments are bad public policy. When the state has less money, the workers, including slackers, get this increase in pay. But that’s not the only problem. The other problem is on the benefit side, pensions and medical. Those costs go up much more than colas, the result being that the transfer of income from the taxpayers to the to taxtakers is much higher than the cost of living increase. When tax receipts are down, therefore, the state just goes deep into debt. We already have the highest tax rates for sales taxes and income taxes of any state in the country. I have a PhD in biology (I work for a private company) and I make about 75% of the salary of a CalTrans supervisor ($100,000/year) with no college education and the same number of years on the job. I pay high taxes so that supervisor can afford a much better retirement and a better health care program. And I have to pay back huge college loans. A colleague of mine recently moved to Arkansas, where it costs much less to live and the taxes are much lower. If California doesn’t start to rein in the costs of state workers, no one in my position will stay in California, and that will harm our state immeasurably.
David Greewald,
“If you are looking for a reason to oppose something, you will find it”.
Please include, If you are looking for a reason to support something you will find it, or perhaps even make it up, in your case.
I know this is not popular with those persons whose head is in the sand, or other places where daylight can be seen, but I must say this.
This problem began a long time ago, yes david before you could spell problem. Members of the legislature serve their own needs and some are, and have been, criminal in their deeds.
Unions have been allowed into the state employee workplace, by that idiot grey davis, and many of them are self serving crooks,(recent seiu reps), that bleed the taxpayers.
The state of Calif. has, according to an article in the Sacbee, approximately 360,000 children of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,in it’s school system at a cost of $8600.00 per student. Yes,bleeding heart liberals, I know they are”already here”.
So we have the greedy and self serving, and the beaten taxpayer is raising another countrie’s children. The list of problems goes on and this infinitesimal blog addresses almost nothing.
Keep up the good work david and be sure and write when the abyss opens and tell us whose fault it is.
David Greewald,
“If you are looking for a reason to oppose something, you will find it”.
Please include, If you are looking for a reason to support something you will find it, or perhaps even make it up, in your case.
I know this is not popular with those persons whose head is in the sand, or other places where daylight can be seen, but I must say this.
This problem began a long time ago, yes david before you could spell problem. Members of the legislature serve their own needs and some are, and have been, criminal in their deeds.
Unions have been allowed into the state employee workplace, by that idiot grey davis, and many of them are self serving crooks,(recent seiu reps), that bleed the taxpayers.
The state of Calif. has, according to an article in the Sacbee, approximately 360,000 children of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,in it’s school system at a cost of $8600.00 per student. Yes,bleeding heart liberals, I know they are”already here”.
So we have the greedy and self serving, and the beaten taxpayer is raising another countrie’s children. The list of problems goes on and this infinitesimal blog addresses almost nothing.
Keep up the good work david and be sure and write when the abyss opens and tell us whose fault it is.
David Greewald,
“If you are looking for a reason to oppose something, you will find it”.
Please include, If you are looking for a reason to support something you will find it, or perhaps even make it up, in your case.
I know this is not popular with those persons whose head is in the sand, or other places where daylight can be seen, but I must say this.
This problem began a long time ago, yes david before you could spell problem. Members of the legislature serve their own needs and some are, and have been, criminal in their deeds.
Unions have been allowed into the state employee workplace, by that idiot grey davis, and many of them are self serving crooks,(recent seiu reps), that bleed the taxpayers.
The state of Calif. has, according to an article in the Sacbee, approximately 360,000 children of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,in it’s school system at a cost of $8600.00 per student. Yes,bleeding heart liberals, I know they are”already here”.
So we have the greedy and self serving, and the beaten taxpayer is raising another countrie’s children. The list of problems goes on and this infinitesimal blog addresses almost nothing.
Keep up the good work david and be sure and write when the abyss opens and tell us whose fault it is.
David Greewald,
“If you are looking for a reason to oppose something, you will find it”.
Please include, If you are looking for a reason to support something you will find it, or perhaps even make it up, in your case.
I know this is not popular with those persons whose head is in the sand, or other places where daylight can be seen, but I must say this.
This problem began a long time ago, yes david before you could spell problem. Members of the legislature serve their own needs and some are, and have been, criminal in their deeds.
Unions have been allowed into the state employee workplace, by that idiot grey davis, and many of them are self serving crooks,(recent seiu reps), that bleed the taxpayers.
The state of Calif. has, according to an article in the Sacbee, approximately 360,000 children of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,in it’s school system at a cost of $8600.00 per student. Yes,bleeding heart liberals, I know they are”already here”.
So we have the greedy and self serving, and the beaten taxpayer is raising another countrie’s children. The list of problems goes on and this infinitesimal blog addresses almost nothing.
Keep up the good work david and be sure and write when the abyss opens and tell us whose fault it is.
Please note that today a “No on Measure W” website was posted online which explains the justifications to vote NO on this Measure.
Unfortunately, the proponents of this “Measure W” will likely try to run a campaign based on the projection of image and play on the publics emotions and will avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of the Measure W which the “No on Measure W” campaign seeks to avert.
The website address is:
http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/vme/arena
Should make for some sound reading.
You “No on Measure W” supporters should definately write some letters to the editor as that column appears overly biased towards one side vs. another in the Davis Enterprise in the number of letters published.
Please note that today a “No on Measure W” website was posted online which explains the justifications to vote NO on this Measure.
Unfortunately, the proponents of this “Measure W” will likely try to run a campaign based on the projection of image and play on the publics emotions and will avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of the Measure W which the “No on Measure W” campaign seeks to avert.
The website address is:
http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/vme/arena
Should make for some sound reading.
You “No on Measure W” supporters should definately write some letters to the editor as that column appears overly biased towards one side vs. another in the Davis Enterprise in the number of letters published.
Please note that today a “No on Measure W” website was posted online which explains the justifications to vote NO on this Measure.
Unfortunately, the proponents of this “Measure W” will likely try to run a campaign based on the projection of image and play on the publics emotions and will avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of the Measure W which the “No on Measure W” campaign seeks to avert.
The website address is:
http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/vme/arena
Should make for some sound reading.
You “No on Measure W” supporters should definately write some letters to the editor as that column appears overly biased towards one side vs. another in the Davis Enterprise in the number of letters published.
Please note that today a “No on Measure W” website was posted online which explains the justifications to vote NO on this Measure.
Unfortunately, the proponents of this “Measure W” will likely try to run a campaign based on the projection of image and play on the publics emotions and will avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of the Measure W which the “No on Measure W” campaign seeks to avert.
The website address is:
http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/vme/arena
Should make for some sound reading.
You “No on Measure W” supporters should definately write some letters to the editor as that column appears overly biased towards one side vs. another in the Davis Enterprise in the number of letters published.
“The state of Calif. has, according to an article in the Sacbee, approximately 360,000 children of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,in it’s school system at a cost of $8600.00 per student. Yes,bleeding heart liberals, I know they are”already here”.”
So we should oppose Measure W because of illegal immigrants?
That is a non sequitor for me.
How many illegal immigrants are in the Davis schools?
Do you suggest that if we identify the illegals in Davis, kick them out, that then we save money?
I’m just guessing, here, because your argument is very sketchy at the moment.
“The state of Calif. has, according to an article in the Sacbee, approximately 360,000 children of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,in it’s school system at a cost of $8600.00 per student. Yes,bleeding heart liberals, I know they are”already here”.”
So we should oppose Measure W because of illegal immigrants?
That is a non sequitor for me.
How many illegal immigrants are in the Davis schools?
Do you suggest that if we identify the illegals in Davis, kick them out, that then we save money?
I’m just guessing, here, because your argument is very sketchy at the moment.
“The state of Calif. has, according to an article in the Sacbee, approximately 360,000 children of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,in it’s school system at a cost of $8600.00 per student. Yes,bleeding heart liberals, I know they are”already here”.”
So we should oppose Measure W because of illegal immigrants?
That is a non sequitor for me.
How many illegal immigrants are in the Davis schools?
Do you suggest that if we identify the illegals in Davis, kick them out, that then we save money?
I’m just guessing, here, because your argument is very sketchy at the moment.
“The state of Calif. has, according to an article in the Sacbee, approximately 360,000 children of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS,in it’s school system at a cost of $8600.00 per student. Yes,bleeding heart liberals, I know they are”already here”.”
So we should oppose Measure W because of illegal immigrants?
That is a non sequitor for me.
How many illegal immigrants are in the Davis schools?
Do you suggest that if we identify the illegals in Davis, kick them out, that then we save money?
I’m just guessing, here, because your argument is very sketchy at the moment.
The illegal argument is really a strawman argument. It’s also an argument that even if true, DJUSD has no control over.
I’m still waiting for someone to dispute my numbers here, I haven’t seen it yet.
The illegal argument is really a strawman argument. It’s also an argument that even if true, DJUSD has no control over.
I’m still waiting for someone to dispute my numbers here, I haven’t seen it yet.
The illegal argument is really a strawman argument. It’s also an argument that even if true, DJUSD has no control over.
I’m still waiting for someone to dispute my numbers here, I haven’t seen it yet.
The illegal argument is really a strawman argument. It’s also an argument that even if true, DJUSD has no control over.
I’m still waiting for someone to dispute my numbers here, I haven’t seen it yet.
The immigrant issue being raised just shows what kind of right wing nut jobs have landed on this blog, Rifkin, fed up, bob, old skool and other anonymous posters spewing poisonous hate.
The immigrant issue being raised just shows what kind of right wing nut jobs have landed on this blog, Rifkin, fed up, bob, old skool and other anonymous posters spewing poisonous hate.
The immigrant issue being raised just shows what kind of right wing nut jobs have landed on this blog, Rifkin, fed up, bob, old skool and other anonymous posters spewing poisonous hate.
The immigrant issue being raised just shows what kind of right wing nut jobs have landed on this blog, Rifkin, fed up, bob, old skool and other anonymous posters spewing poisonous hate.
A recent article in the SacBee about a new teachers contract in Rocklin.
A recent article in the SacBee about a new teachers contract in Rocklin.
A recent article in the SacBee about a new teachers contract in Rocklin.
A recent article in the SacBee about a new teachers contract in Rocklin.
Children of illegal immigrants bring money into the Davis schools, rather than taking it out. The state gives the district money per student. If all the undocumented students left we’d just be in a bigger hole.
Children of illegal immigrants bring money into the Davis schools, rather than taking it out. The state gives the district money per student. If all the undocumented students left we’d just be in a bigger hole.
Children of illegal immigrants bring money into the Davis schools, rather than taking it out. The state gives the district money per student. If all the undocumented students left we’d just be in a bigger hole.
Children of illegal immigrants bring money into the Davis schools, rather than taking it out. The state gives the district money per student. If all the undocumented students left we’d just be in a bigger hole.
Children of illegal immigrants bring money into the Davis schools, rather than taking it out. The state gives the district money per student. If all the undocumented students left we’d just be in a bigger hole.
There is a Darkside. Many of their parents are in prison, and use up prison space and tie up the courts. A large percentage of incarcerated people are illegal immigrants. This is a fact. Drugs flow through the border.
Children of illegal immigrants bring money into the Davis schools, rather than taking it out. The state gives the district money per student. If all the undocumented students left we’d just be in a bigger hole.
There is a Darkside. Many of their parents are in prison, and use up prison space and tie up the courts. A large percentage of incarcerated people are illegal immigrants. This is a fact. Drugs flow through the border.
Children of illegal immigrants bring money into the Davis schools, rather than taking it out. The state gives the district money per student. If all the undocumented students left we’d just be in a bigger hole.
There is a Darkside. Many of their parents are in prison, and use up prison space and tie up the courts. A large percentage of incarcerated people are illegal immigrants. This is a fact. Drugs flow through the border.
Children of illegal immigrants bring money into the Davis schools, rather than taking it out. The state gives the district money per student. If all the undocumented students left we’d just be in a bigger hole.
There is a Darkside. Many of their parents are in prison, and use up prison space and tie up the courts. A large percentage of incarcerated people are illegal immigrants. This is a fact. Drugs flow through the border.
Hi, Tom,
“Unfortunately, the proponents of this “Measure W” will likely try to run a campaign based on the projection of image and play on the publics emotions and will avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of the Measure W which the “No on Measure W” campaign seeks to avert.”
I know you probably mean the opposite. But as I read this, it looks like you are saying that “No on Measure W” is seeking to avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of Measure W.
Hi, Tom,
“Unfortunately, the proponents of this “Measure W” will likely try to run a campaign based on the projection of image and play on the publics emotions and will avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of the Measure W which the “No on Measure W” campaign seeks to avert.”
I know you probably mean the opposite. But as I read this, it looks like you are saying that “No on Measure W” is seeking to avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of Measure W.
Hi, Tom,
“Unfortunately, the proponents of this “Measure W” will likely try to run a campaign based on the projection of image and play on the publics emotions and will avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of the Measure W which the “No on Measure W” campaign seeks to avert.”
I know you probably mean the opposite. But as I read this, it looks like you are saying that “No on Measure W” is seeking to avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of Measure W.
Hi, Tom,
“Unfortunately, the proponents of this “Measure W” will likely try to run a campaign based on the projection of image and play on the publics emotions and will avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of the Measure W which the “No on Measure W” campaign seeks to avert.”
I know you probably mean the opposite. But as I read this, it looks like you are saying that “No on Measure W” is seeking to avoid an in depth presentation of the substance of Measure W.
Anonymous:
You write:
“Many of their parents are in prison… This is a fact. “
What I would suggest is that if you believe it is a fact, then you ought to state what the facts are. Many of their parents are in prison–how many? What percentage? Why does that mean we shouldn’t educate their kids? Isn’t education a means to allow kids to live better lives than their parents?
Now I know a number of immigrants some here legally and some not, most of them are extremely hard working people, they do the best they can trying to raise their kids and trying to give them a better life. I don’t see that as the downfall of the education system in California.
Anonymous:
You write:
“Many of their parents are in prison… This is a fact. “
What I would suggest is that if you believe it is a fact, then you ought to state what the facts are. Many of their parents are in prison–how many? What percentage? Why does that mean we shouldn’t educate their kids? Isn’t education a means to allow kids to live better lives than their parents?
Now I know a number of immigrants some here legally and some not, most of them are extremely hard working people, they do the best they can trying to raise their kids and trying to give them a better life. I don’t see that as the downfall of the education system in California.
Anonymous:
You write:
“Many of their parents are in prison… This is a fact. “
What I would suggest is that if you believe it is a fact, then you ought to state what the facts are. Many of their parents are in prison–how many? What percentage? Why does that mean we shouldn’t educate their kids? Isn’t education a means to allow kids to live better lives than their parents?
Now I know a number of immigrants some here legally and some not, most of them are extremely hard working people, they do the best they can trying to raise their kids and trying to give them a better life. I don’t see that as the downfall of the education system in California.
Anonymous:
You write:
“Many of their parents are in prison… This is a fact. “
What I would suggest is that if you believe it is a fact, then you ought to state what the facts are. Many of their parents are in prison–how many? What percentage? Why does that mean we shouldn’t educate their kids? Isn’t education a means to allow kids to live better lives than their parents?
Now I know a number of immigrants some here legally and some not, most of them are extremely hard working people, they do the best they can trying to raise their kids and trying to give them a better life. I don’t see that as the downfall of the education system in California.
“There is a Darkside. Many of their parents are in prison, and use up prison space and tie up the courts. A large percentage of incarcerated people are illegal immigrants. This is a fact. Drugs flow through the border.”
Your argument would make more sense in other communities.
How many illegal immigrants go to schools in Davis?
All of the Spanish speaking families that I know here in Davis(and I know a good number) are legal residents or voting citizens. I don’t know of any illegal immigrants in Davis.
Maybe they exist, but for now your argument doesn’t make sense to me.
“There is a Darkside. Many of their parents are in prison, and use up prison space and tie up the courts. A large percentage of incarcerated people are illegal immigrants. This is a fact. Drugs flow through the border.”
Your argument would make more sense in other communities.
How many illegal immigrants go to schools in Davis?
All of the Spanish speaking families that I know here in Davis(and I know a good number) are legal residents or voting citizens. I don’t know of any illegal immigrants in Davis.
Maybe they exist, but for now your argument doesn’t make sense to me.
“There is a Darkside. Many of their parents are in prison, and use up prison space and tie up the courts. A large percentage of incarcerated people are illegal immigrants. This is a fact. Drugs flow through the border.”
Your argument would make more sense in other communities.
How many illegal immigrants go to schools in Davis?
All of the Spanish speaking families that I know here in Davis(and I know a good number) are legal residents or voting citizens. I don’t know of any illegal immigrants in Davis.
Maybe they exist, but for now your argument doesn’t make sense to me.
“There is a Darkside. Many of their parents are in prison, and use up prison space and tie up the courts. A large percentage of incarcerated people are illegal immigrants. This is a fact. Drugs flow through the border.”
Your argument would make more sense in other communities.
How many illegal immigrants go to schools in Davis?
All of the Spanish speaking families that I know here in Davis(and I know a good number) are legal residents or voting citizens. I don’t know of any illegal immigrants in Davis.
Maybe they exist, but for now your argument doesn’t make sense to me.
“I pay high taxes so that supervisor can afford a much better retirement and a better health care program. And I have to pay back huge college loans. A colleague of mine recently moved to Arkansas, where it costs much less to live and the taxes are much lower. If California doesn’t start to rein in the costs of state workers, no one in my position will stay in California, and that will harm our state immeasurably.”
It sounds like your bigger beef is with the state of California.
What we’re talking about here is a local measure to keep the local schools whole.
I don’t expect much help from the state to help Davis schools, but this measure at least allows us to help ourselves.
“I pay high taxes so that supervisor can afford a much better retirement and a better health care program. And I have to pay back huge college loans. A colleague of mine recently moved to Arkansas, where it costs much less to live and the taxes are much lower. If California doesn’t start to rein in the costs of state workers, no one in my position will stay in California, and that will harm our state immeasurably.”
It sounds like your bigger beef is with the state of California.
What we’re talking about here is a local measure to keep the local schools whole.
I don’t expect much help from the state to help Davis schools, but this measure at least allows us to help ourselves.
“I pay high taxes so that supervisor can afford a much better retirement and a better health care program. And I have to pay back huge college loans. A colleague of mine recently moved to Arkansas, where it costs much less to live and the taxes are much lower. If California doesn’t start to rein in the costs of state workers, no one in my position will stay in California, and that will harm our state immeasurably.”
It sounds like your bigger beef is with the state of California.
What we’re talking about here is a local measure to keep the local schools whole.
I don’t expect much help from the state to help Davis schools, but this measure at least allows us to help ourselves.
“I pay high taxes so that supervisor can afford a much better retirement and a better health care program. And I have to pay back huge college loans. A colleague of mine recently moved to Arkansas, where it costs much less to live and the taxes are much lower. If California doesn’t start to rein in the costs of state workers, no one in my position will stay in California, and that will harm our state immeasurably.”
It sounds like your bigger beef is with the state of California.
What we’re talking about here is a local measure to keep the local schools whole.
I don’t expect much help from the state to help Davis schools, but this measure at least allows us to help ourselves.
David Greenwald,
I know that you are a union supporter and, as you have stated, your wife works for the SEIU. Can you explain why the recent raids on large companies looking for and arresting large numbers of Illegal Immigrants have been initiated by unions?
Is it because the illegal aliens are using false, or sometimes valid SS numbers of others, thus stealing their identity, or is it because the unions want the membership. Is it because they are taking jobs in these industries that legal residents need?
What is the real answer here David?
David Greenwald,
I know that you are a union supporter and, as you have stated, your wife works for the SEIU. Can you explain why the recent raids on large companies looking for and arresting large numbers of Illegal Immigrants have been initiated by unions?
Is it because the illegal aliens are using false, or sometimes valid SS numbers of others, thus stealing their identity, or is it because the unions want the membership. Is it because they are taking jobs in these industries that legal residents need?
What is the real answer here David?
David Greenwald,
I know that you are a union supporter and, as you have stated, your wife works for the SEIU. Can you explain why the recent raids on large companies looking for and arresting large numbers of Illegal Immigrants have been initiated by unions?
Is it because the illegal aliens are using false, or sometimes valid SS numbers of others, thus stealing their identity, or is it because the unions want the membership. Is it because they are taking jobs in these industries that legal residents need?
What is the real answer here David?
David Greenwald,
I know that you are a union supporter and, as you have stated, your wife works for the SEIU. Can you explain why the recent raids on large companies looking for and arresting large numbers of Illegal Immigrants have been initiated by unions?
Is it because the illegal aliens are using false, or sometimes valid SS numbers of others, thus stealing their identity, or is it because the unions want the membership. Is it because they are taking jobs in these industries that legal residents need?
What is the real answer here David?
anon 12:23
Did you ever think of creating your own blog? You could research these ideas and share them among fellow travellers. Maybe see if they get any traction.
anon 12:23
Did you ever think of creating your own blog? You could research these ideas and share them among fellow travellers. Maybe see if they get any traction.
anon 12:23
Did you ever think of creating your own blog? You could research these ideas and share them among fellow travellers. Maybe see if they get any traction.
anon 12:23
Did you ever think of creating your own blog? You could research these ideas and share them among fellow travellers. Maybe see if they get any traction.
“Excuse me DPD, but you can be an apologist for the school board all you want. They have been wasting our money from the beginning and you know it. Don’t play dumb.
Excuse me DPD, but what is the price for your soul?”
I look forward to reading your guest submission to the Vanguard in which you outline and annotate massive amounts of waste.
I, too, have lived in Davis for a long time, and this is the worst budget situation seen in a very long time.
It seems that anyone who tries to make improvements to the situation is deemed to have sold their soul.
“Excuse me DPD, but you can be an apologist for the school board all you want. They have been wasting our money from the beginning and you know it. Don’t play dumb.
Excuse me DPD, but what is the price for your soul?”
I look forward to reading your guest submission to the Vanguard in which you outline and annotate massive amounts of waste.
I, too, have lived in Davis for a long time, and this is the worst budget situation seen in a very long time.
It seems that anyone who tries to make improvements to the situation is deemed to have sold their soul.
“Excuse me DPD, but you can be an apologist for the school board all you want. They have been wasting our money from the beginning and you know it. Don’t play dumb.
Excuse me DPD, but what is the price for your soul?”
I look forward to reading your guest submission to the Vanguard in which you outline and annotate massive amounts of waste.
I, too, have lived in Davis for a long time, and this is the worst budget situation seen in a very long time.
It seems that anyone who tries to make improvements to the situation is deemed to have sold their soul.
“Excuse me DPD, but you can be an apologist for the school board all you want. They have been wasting our money from the beginning and you know it. Don’t play dumb.
Excuse me DPD, but what is the price for your soul?”
I look forward to reading your guest submission to the Vanguard in which you outline and annotate massive amounts of waste.
I, too, have lived in Davis for a long time, and this is the worst budget situation seen in a very long time.
It seems that anyone who tries to make improvements to the situation is deemed to have sold their soul.
Anonymous said…
Yes their water bill has gone up. I have called Davis High three times now over the past five months. Every night their stupid sprinkler next to the sign and fire hydrant is a geyser sending thousands of gallons of water down the drain. It has been going on since at least the start of the summer.
10/7/08 8:45 AM
The sprinkler in question should now be fixed. Thanks to the eyes and ears of the community! Let us know if you see other issues that need addressing.
Sheila Allen
Anonymous said…
Yes their water bill has gone up. I have called Davis High three times now over the past five months. Every night their stupid sprinkler next to the sign and fire hydrant is a geyser sending thousands of gallons of water down the drain. It has been going on since at least the start of the summer.
10/7/08 8:45 AM
The sprinkler in question should now be fixed. Thanks to the eyes and ears of the community! Let us know if you see other issues that need addressing.
Sheila Allen
Anonymous said…
Yes their water bill has gone up. I have called Davis High three times now over the past five months. Every night their stupid sprinkler next to the sign and fire hydrant is a geyser sending thousands of gallons of water down the drain. It has been going on since at least the start of the summer.
10/7/08 8:45 AM
The sprinkler in question should now be fixed. Thanks to the eyes and ears of the community! Let us know if you see other issues that need addressing.
Sheila Allen
Anonymous said…
Yes their water bill has gone up. I have called Davis High three times now over the past five months. Every night their stupid sprinkler next to the sign and fire hydrant is a geyser sending thousands of gallons of water down the drain. It has been going on since at least the start of the summer.
10/7/08 8:45 AM
The sprinkler in question should now be fixed. Thanks to the eyes and ears of the community! Let us know if you see other issues that need addressing.
Sheila Allen
To Anon, 10/8/08 6:42 A.M.,
“Right Wing Nut Jobs”? They don’t agree with you? So you label them as a, “Nut Job”. Get a life, and a degree of reasonability, you bonehead.
To Welcome Immigrants,
If all the illegal immigrants left we’d be in a hole? Could you expand on that statement and tell the rest of us how that would happen?
Could someone answer the anon’s question aobut whose paying the debt for approx. 360,000 illegal immigrants kids here in California going to public schools? Yes clusless, they are here, but who is paying for it? It sure as hell ain’t the mexican government or the illegal immigrants.
I welcome your pesponses.
To Anon, 10/8/08 6:42 A.M.,
“Right Wing Nut Jobs”? They don’t agree with you? So you label them as a, “Nut Job”. Get a life, and a degree of reasonability, you bonehead.
To Welcome Immigrants,
If all the illegal immigrants left we’d be in a hole? Could you expand on that statement and tell the rest of us how that would happen?
Could someone answer the anon’s question aobut whose paying the debt for approx. 360,000 illegal immigrants kids here in California going to public schools? Yes clusless, they are here, but who is paying for it? It sure as hell ain’t the mexican government or the illegal immigrants.
I welcome your pesponses.
To Anon, 10/8/08 6:42 A.M.,
“Right Wing Nut Jobs”? They don’t agree with you? So you label them as a, “Nut Job”. Get a life, and a degree of reasonability, you bonehead.
To Welcome Immigrants,
If all the illegal immigrants left we’d be in a hole? Could you expand on that statement and tell the rest of us how that would happen?
Could someone answer the anon’s question aobut whose paying the debt for approx. 360,000 illegal immigrants kids here in California going to public schools? Yes clusless, they are here, but who is paying for it? It sure as hell ain’t the mexican government or the illegal immigrants.
I welcome your pesponses.
To Anon, 10/8/08 6:42 A.M.,
“Right Wing Nut Jobs”? They don’t agree with you? So you label them as a, “Nut Job”. Get a life, and a degree of reasonability, you bonehead.
To Welcome Immigrants,
If all the illegal immigrants left we’d be in a hole? Could you expand on that statement and tell the rest of us how that would happen?
Could someone answer the anon’s question aobut whose paying the debt for approx. 360,000 illegal immigrants kids here in California going to public schools? Yes clusless, they are here, but who is paying for it? It sure as hell ain’t the mexican government or the illegal immigrants.
I welcome your pesponses.