Crowd Protests Sentence of Ajay Dev Sentenced to 378 Years Last Week

The fact that 12 people (some who surely were from Davis) who sat everyday in that jury box for two months, were able to agree that Dev committed these crimes beyond a resonable doubt is good enough for me. I read that Dev tried very hard to keep the victim out of the country and even tried to have her arrested in Nepal to keep her from coming back to testify. That was the main reason why the trial took so long to get started. That action seems to show Dev’s consciousness of guilt. An innocent man would gladly seek a quick and speedy trial and not try to have his accuser imprisoned.

I’m all ears Metro, do you have any particular insight into this case?

Greg: I’d love to both have and post a full trial transcript. But there is a problem with it, they are not readily or publicly available. They are the possession of the trial clerk and it is costly to obtain them. Apparently that is how trial clerks make their real living, they sell the trial transcript. Michael Rothchild estimated it would cost $20,000 to purchase it. Does that shock you? It stunned me.

I covered the event, because it was a noteworthy event and the 378 years make the trial noteworthy. I don’t know if I believe that he is innocent, I would love to evaluate the case and I think the transcript is a key piece. The rest of the evidence I can then look at and make up my own mind and then see where we are.

I’m not convinced of the racial component, I mentioned it because it came up, but I have seen enough cases involving white defendants that are just as questionable in this county as non-whites. That’s my way of saying, I’m not going to spend a lot of time on that issue. Now if I read the transcript and it is glaring, then that’s a different story. But my main focus is on guilt or innocence.

[i]But my main focus is on guilt or innocence.[/i]

It could be unfortunate that both sides have made that the main focus. It seems like a big leap to go from molesting a teenager to life in prison without parole. Does it really make sense, either morally or financially, to throw away the cell key? This is a major reason that California is spending about as much on prisons as on higher education.

But if I have to believe that Dev is outright innocent to question the outcome, well, at the moment that seems like it’s asking for a lot.

Stupidity of the masses has been a recurring theme throughout history, so it is no wonder that these “Nepali Freedom Fighters” would 1.) fight for the wrong issue (Racism had no element whatsoever in Ajay’s conviction, so their “Nepalis Demand Respect” slogan just makes them look silly and ineffectual.), and 2.) blindly disregard all evidence pointing to the REAL truth–that Ajay is a very sick man who deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison. Good grief, Charlie Brown!

David, maybe you can get an interview with a juror from this case? I have no opinion on the fairness or correctness of the verdict. (I think we should, while presuming at that point that Mr. Dev got justice, be mindful that there have been many rape convictions which later proved to be wrong.) Yet I’d be interested to know from the perspective of a juror what was so convincing in the evidence he or she heard.

Anon: The videotapes turned out to be suspect and in fact of the 13 charges that were thrown out, several of them related to that issue. Apparently the videos were both placed on the computer and in fact made after the time when the girl was a minor and living in the home.

The circumstances (and charges) were different than in the Dev case, but it was this case from North Carolina ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rascals_day_care_sexual_abuse_trial[/url]) which caused me to lose faith in some prosecutors and juries in alleged sexual abuse cases.

From Wikipedia: [quote]During the trial, children were asked to tesitfy about events that had occurred three years previously, with memories “refreshed” in therapy sessions, meetings with the prosecution and repeated discussions with their parents. While the alleged abuse was occurring, no parents noticed anything unusual about their children’s behavior to indicate abuse or torture. [/quote] Any time I hear about a “victim” whose memory had to be “refreshed,” my instinct is to think, “b*llsh*t.”

Amazed, as I’ve said, I have no opinion about the Dev case specifically. I have no reason to doubt what you say. I do presume that justice was done, but I’m not sure that is always the case in jury trials of alleged sexual abuse.

I can’t judge this case. However if it turns out that this woman was lying then she should go to prison – for 378 years!

Yes if he was sleeping with her, then he would be a perv as you suggest.

He’s from Nepal, so he’s as much Napali as someone born in this country is an American.

“Ok, but she was still his adopted daughter, right? He sounds like a perv to be sleeping with her at all, so it’s not a stretch to believe he also did it when she was a minor. It’s not “ok” to sleep with your daughter, no matter how old she is….”

unless it’s woody allen right?

http://judicial-inc.biz/woody_allen_with_mia_farrow.htm

I dont see where is the outrage with that case.

“I dont see where is the outrage with that case.”

Actually there was a lot of outrage – just not from the Hollywood sector. But then Hollywood is known for sexual escapades of every kind.

“Actually there was a lot of outrage – just not from the Hollywood sector. But then Hollywood is known for sexual escapades of every kind.”

and yet you people choose a groping woman governor named arnold as head of your own state and your own jury always let these holywood people off. And don’t lie, it was very light outrage compared to this case and no one wished death or raped on Allen or even Polanski.

Anon, please see the facts of the case regarding any graphic materials or the translation of the tape by the defense. Dev was not found guilty of the pornographic materials on the computer. The defense proved through computer forensic that it was the girl who downloaded the porns on her own computer and not Mr. Dev.

Also, the tapes were translated and testified to by the Nepali Language Expert from the US State Department. The expert pointed out Dev denied any wrong doing over and over , 27 times. The two or three lines that Persecutor pointed out

I like the ideas of David possibly facilitating a forum where the Jurors can express their facts, analysis and conclusions as to how they arrived at their decision. They have been talking through blogs but it may be better if they all came together and provided their position. The Nepali community will for ever be grateful.

There is a belief in the Nepali community that perhaps a group think led to error in jury judgment and wrongful conviction. It is possible that, as in many group settings, few are strong and vocal/Strong, others care but are willing to be led by the strong or are afraid to oppose the strong and just go along. And, then there are those that just don’t care one way or the other.

It is entirely possible there may have been people (the Strong) that would have convicted Ajay regardless of facts once the porn videos were shown; the pretext lines in Nepali (“You F@#$ed me after you turned 18….”) was presented with DA’s spin–and thus, they wold have been prejudiced –as such, it wold not have mattered what the real truth was after that.

The others who may have been more reasoning and after hearing the facts were not convinced with the position of the Strong but may have been strong armed by the strong.

Finally there are others who just want to be done and get it over with and go home since the trail took so long and probably did not care one way or the other. I have been on many jury and have seen all three kinds in every case.

Sometimes the people who get strong armed or did not care in passing judgment get bothered by their conscience if they know in their heart that that they erred and the consequence of the error was detrimental to the defendant and their family and friends.

I have heard and read of many people who voted for conviction and and were bothered by the error in judgment, joined the defense as the strong voice for undoing the wrong and leading to defendant’s freedom.

Hi mr. Greenwald, it appears that the web page is having trouble displaying the comments in a readable format.

What we have in the Yolo county is a SERIOUS Problem with the law envorcement and the justice system. This has gotten worse since the County has started to compete for the Federal funds for Gang Injunctions, Rape cases, and others. It appears since, the system has tried to target the most venerabl part of the population in order to secure the Fed. Funds and to put notch on their bels.

OK, what do I mean, Look at the statistics of the DOJ for Yolo County that shows analysis of Federal funds and the categorical conviction rates. You will note the majority of the convictions are of minorities, primarily Hispanic.

They are targeting minorities because they are least likely to be able to defend themselves, and most likely not not to get a fair jury. Immigrant communities tend also be afraid to be vocal in support of the defandant in fear of retaliation by the police and the legal system. Need I say more.

Look at the facts of what has been done to the immigrant community in this County for the past couple of years.
1. The Mexicans have been targetted–Gang related framing, sexual misconduct and others–you are alreday aware of what is currently going on.

2. Iranian community targetted by Police.

3. The Pakistani community – The Goats that got out..

4. Now the Nepali community.

Who is next? Have we covered all the ethnic groups in this county?

Nepali’s are fuming but as most immegrant comminities they are afraid to be vocal and visual in fear of retaliation. As such, more Nepali’s out side of this County line are speaking out more than the ones inside the County line.

What we need is Federal investigation. What is going on is type of railrodaing that used to happen to blacks in the deep south by the police, the DA and the judges.

We need to request a Federal investigation panel, hold hearings in the community, let the community members come and speak their minds and tell their stories without fear of retaliation.

Please keep this sotry and the matter alive, please encourage anyone who can make a difference to look at Ajay’s case and the others against other immigrent groups independtly. We don’t need anyone to take sides, what we need is some one to expose indepently as to what the reality is and the truth is.

“Pleased”, I was informed that Daily Democrat works with the DA, including printing incorrect stories to support his election. I am really afraid, though I have not committed any crime by participating in this blog.(How can I trust the justice system at this point!!!!?) Unfortunately, my identity would have been already revealed and at this point, my family and I are really worried.

Sorry….

Btw, “pleased” I have already answered your question, many times. (Unfortunately I can’t give you an explanation you like to hear.) You are using the same “repeat” tactics, to have the audience circle around your story, the only weak evidence that was used to send an innocent man to jail for 382 years.

Sorry….

Hey all: be careful the coding you put into the comments, it became hard to read because of some coding. We had to take down a comment to fix it.

I. Ajay was not found guilty of for any of the Pornographic charges
1. It was proven by defense that the accuser downloaded these porn material herself on her personal computer while Ajay and wife were out of town. She downloaded second time while Mr. Dev was at work.

It was not proven that anyone downloaded anything. It was shown that the porn was more than likely caused by a “porn storm” as the defense witness put it caused by a music download site. The only porn confirmed was the porn loaded by the defendant who needed it to assist with tests he needed to take..

2. Even though the defense had submitted evidence to court in advance with to prove Mr. Dev’s innocence on this matter, the court still allowed the DA to show pornography videos to the Jury before Defense’s turn was up to present its case. Jury was biased and prejudiced by this that defense could not able to overcome.

Obviously, showing the porn did not work, he was found NOT GUILTY of the porn. (for the reason listed above)

II. The plaintiff (accuser) was shown lying over and over to the court by the defense when she was on the witness stand. Se could not keep her story straight at all and said I don’t remember to simplest of questions. Se would say one thing and just get tangled with another lie she would state next. It got very bad.

The events were 10 years prior and no, her memory was not the best. Evidence did confirm things happened such as motel receipts..

2. several Nepali community witnesses took the sand and made statements that showed that the plaintiff was not telling the truth.

Not true

3. Nepali community witnesses also stated they had numerous interactions with the Dev’s and the plaintiff Girl and never saw any indications of rape or any thing bad by defendant Dev.

True

4. The plaintiff never told any one of the alleged rapes. Nepali witnesses stated observed a loving caring and a normal family structure.

True

4. It was presented that only time the plaintiff mentioned of rape to anyone was when he interfered in her relation with her boyfriend. It was presented that he interfered to make sure their relationship was in accordance with what is expected in Nepali culture.

After she had moved and came to realize that she would never be free of the defendant …

III. The prosecution presented recorded phone conversation between the plaintiff and Mr. Dev. Tow or three sentences spoken in Nepali was pointed out that he said was the proof of Ajay’s admittance of rapes and guilt.
1. The recorded conversation showed at no time Mr. Dev ever admitting to sexual misconduct in English or Nepali.

It was not 2 or 3 sentences. It was about half of the entire conversation in Nepali. In Nepali he told her not to report the rapes. in English, he told her to report the attacks and that he would defend himself.

2. On the tape, Mr. Dev did not admit to any wrong doing, he over 27 times denied the allegations, he stated “No, I did not” and “you are lying” 27 times.

Again, only in English.. Possibly when his wife was in the room.

3. As to the two or three sentences that that was spoken in Neapli (you F#$%&ed when you turned 18) DA said Ajay admitted to Rape by those statements.

Dont forget the following statement, “that means you gave consent”. Of course the defense was that no sexual relationship EVER happened.

4. US State Department Nepali Language Expert was brought in. He testified that he listened to the conversation over 16 times and analyzed the conversation in context of Nepali and American culture. The listened to the You f@#$ed me… sentence carefully.

That statement was never disputed. It was another statment about him kissing her versus sleeping with her.

5. The Language Expert pointed out that he had asked others to independently analyze the conversation.

Not true

6. The Language expert concluded that he did not hear at any one of those 16 times that Ajay admitting to the rapes or any wrong doings, he pointed out to the contrary—Ajay denied of any wrong doings over and over. He said never did the You F@$

Not true. That testimony did not happen

Another thing I would like to add is that even in the bible god was able to forgive anyone including murderers (rapists as well I think) as long as they were able to change their ways and accept christ. If I remember correctly one of the saint’s was a former murderer or something that was saved. I think in this country there is a misconception that through harsh sentences and hard time people change and have their thoughts changed or ingrained into them by the system. I don’t think it’s true it only makes them worse, more hateful, resentful, and ready for vengence once they get out, plus prisons are crime schools to begin with. I think the way scandanavian europe handles it is the right way, and that is to treat criminals as people who made mistakes or have problems and need to be taught the right way to live or rehabilitated. God always teaches compassion and forgiveness.

You also have to realize that sexual crimes unlike others can hit anyone and especially males. EVeryone I think including most if not all women/teens like this girl was has hormones and hornyness. Anyone can be caught off guard and let those hromones dictate them esp if they are taught by society it is acceptable and not hard to get away with due to hollywood for example and woody allen being the prime example. Unlike other crimes like calculated murder a sex crime can hit anyone of any socioeconomic class that is why I do not understand why he got a sentence higher than a murderer. To take part in a calculated murder you really have to be a stone cold person or someone with really crossed wires due to your upbringing, but I am sure there are tons of people not caught for various sex crimes all over even Yolo county that are being hypocrites and commenting on these threads. Heck Arnold is just as guilty of groping woman as that dentist that was sentenced in that very county by that same crappy lawyer this Ajay guy got.

It is not appropriate to comment on a sentence that is taken out of context. However, hope this helps:
Context: The sentence was taken out from a paragraph in which Ajay & the victim are having an emotionally charged discussion on the subject of her abortion she had after she was 18
Language: Nepali
While there is no direct translation for the word used, the closest English translation would be: “You (the victim) screwed me (referring to making him involved in this case of abortion) after 18, that means you gave consent (to the abortion)”
The f* word was the translation offered by the victim itself, which changes the whole meaning. The prosecution jumped on it and did not allow any other translations.
Remember, many clear denials of rape (“I did not do it”) was made prior to this paragraph. Also note: “YOU screwed me”, not “I f**** you” .

This is not an evidence to convict somebody.

Not to mention that the entire conversation started with her telling him that she had gone to a school conselor and told her about her abortions. She asked if she should tell the couselor about “me and you daddy”. He never said “what are you talking about, what abortions”, nothing. After he started crying, his only response was “why did you go to the counselor and whos phone are you calling me from”.

Not to mention that the victim had never mentioned a rape outside of the US. It was only when the defense attorney questioned her about any that may have occurred that she told anyone about it… How did he know that anything happened outside of the US unless his client had told him about it directly?

>>>>>Not to mention that the victim had never mentioned a rape outside of the US. It was only when the defense attorney questioned her about any that may have occurred that she told anyone about it… How did he know that anything happened outside of the US unless his client had told him about it directly?

He (the deffense attorney) has a working brain, unlike you 🙂 The defense attorney tells him (client) what to do, not he tells the attorney what to do or say. Another weak speculation. Try again.

FOLKS: This is very important, do not use the “at” sign in your posts, the software thinks it’s an email address and it’s causing problems. Further posts will be deleted regardless of content if they use the “at” sign. Just use “F” to designate the “F” word.

“She was 15. She had no where else to go except back to Nepal. If you think that she slept with him for lodging, you are as sick as he is.”

she only admitted to sleeping with him after she was 18 and probably even living alone by that time. The telephone call never proved or had him admit to her sleeping with him under 18.

also do you think woody allen’s adopted asian daughter had anywhere else to go since he started on her below 18 as well?

also many of hugh heffner’s girls have nowhere to go either outside the strip bar or prostitution scene he picks them up from and gives them a better life, so this girl actually had a non prostitution/strip scene at nepal to go to. And even if he did start having sex with her at 15 many of those girls heffner picked up started at that time too and didnt know any other life or had an education to choose another life, and some people aren’t even emotionally stable or mature at 18 or 19 anyway so how is hugh heffner any better?

I am done discussing Hollywood, if you have something specific about this situation, I am more than willing to discuss…… I have no idea why charges were never brought against Woody Allen….. Nor could I even begin to speculate…..

and again, I repeat my previous statement…..

>>>not physiologically
Psychologically

Again Unbiased, I repeat. He was found NOT GUILTY of the porn charges so why do we need to continue debating on whether or not the video emotionally charged the Jury…obviously it did not.

There were 2 sets of translations, 1 by the DA and 1 by the defense. they were virtually identical with the exception of 2 points. One being the word “kiss” versus “sex”. The whole “you fu$^ed me” comment was not debated. Even the defense translation had that wording in there….

The testimony of a language expert stating what was admitted to and what was not, never happened.

Who’s culture am I judging? If that is directed at me…… I never mentioned culture. My information is not coming from the media…

“I am done discussing Hollywood, if you have something specific about this situation, I am more than willing to discuss…… I have no idea why charges were never brought against Woody Allen….. Nor could I even begin to speculate…..”

Even if the girl in question didn’t want to testify why couldn’t just Mia Farroh’s testimony be enough esp since she claimed he molested other children of hers?

Oh and I think Ajay’s family should try hooking up with Woody Allen through his publicist and try getting him involved in this. He might throw a couple million in for a lawyer it would be pocket change for him.

Some one above said to have the tapes/audio recording of the conversation and the transcript be placed on this site/online. I agree, that would take lots of speculations about the pretext out.

It should be noted that there were two separate conversations. The defense was not permitted to present the first one to Jury. The shock and the what are you talking about… was part of the 1st conversation. By the time the second conversation took place, the Dev and his wife were already expecting the call. It is very possible that if that conversation is heard by some one from Nepali or Indo-American the interpretations will be significantly different. For example:

In Nepali culture if some one is being accused of outrageous allegations, it is not uncommon for the person to respond to control damage of family laundry being wrongfully placed out there and bring shame to the accuser and the entire family. For example, they would first respond by saying, why are you doing this? what have we done to deserve this? why do you want to bring shame to you and the family by going to others and talking about this. They would say something like, where are you, where are you calling me from? why don’t you come home, lets talk about what this is all about and then we will take what ever actions are really necessary.

Another common way one may hear if they are accused to something outrageous is, go ahead, say what you want, say I did it and OK so what if I did, it is the language and rhetorical. Go tell everyone I did it, fine say it I did.

In neither of the above stated instances would be an admission of any wrong doing if IndoAmerican, Nepali or someone versed in these cultures were to interpret the conversation.

What possibly happened with Dev case is that a conversation taking place in Nepali cultural context was interpreted by the jury by a western/American cultural context. They are not the same.

I think the audio and the interpretations offered by independent Nepali sources will really clarify things.

Pleased, I don’t know how I would respond. Since I am multicultural and multilingual, not sure how my response would come out. I stand corrected about the first call, thank you.

Again my speculation, mother’s silence may be the family’s shock, it is entirely possible, the discussion between mother and father prior to the second call led him to be expecting the second call and thus no shock comments from him. This possibly led to him asking about things like where are you? where are you calling from? why are you dong this? why are you going to others to spread the family laundry? , why do you want to place the family to shame? type of comments. This would not be outside of Nepali cultural and language context.

I am trying to offer other possibilities for the event due to cultural differences for interpertation . I still think the tapes should be placed online for members of both the Indo, Nepal and the American societies to hear. I will bet the interpretations will be very different that is all.

quit calling her his daughter. It is misinforming the public, it is his step daughter, not even bound by blood. heck the 24 yr old jerry lee lewis was closer to blood when he married his 13-year old cousin. He is still respected by this same society and is often called to weddings and such to perform. That goes on to my next point. Some crimes are pretty much timeless, while others evolve or change. Murder is a crime that was always seen as bad in our and most world cultures since the beginning of time, while under aged sex is really a recent phenomenom stepping from the online and digital reovlution. It was bad before that but not to the extent it is now and before the 70s it was even legal/acceptable in many circumstances like Jerry Lee Lewis’s. I do not know the ins and outs of this case and whether it was rape or cohercion or whatever, though personally like the Polanski case I don’t think both sides are telling the whole truth. The truth is never black and white it is usually gray or somewhere down the middle. Was she leading him on somewhat for favors or not saying no/I can’t when he made moves on her when she was younger? Again like the Polanski case those questions we will never know.

By the way, I take offense that you think step-children should not be considered “real” children.

http://www.imdb.com/name/ nm0000591/board/t hread/1370 83648?d= 137161037#1 37161037

put the spaces together.

>>>> They try to continue with their regular lives but find it increasingly difficult….

As the spell of emotional & psychological tactics fades away, as things become clearer and clearer, as the probability that their decision caused an innocent man to be locked up for life become more predominant , it will become even harder and harder. It would have been easier to stand up to their guts and intellect, rather than being a “team player”, when they had the opportunity.
As an engineer, I face the similar analytical challenge on a day to day basis. I make an unbiased analysis of what has been said, develop my own opinions around it and present to the team and stick to my guns. As a competent engineer, I do not have many reasons to completely reverse my ideas. In the end, unlike the jury process, a decision is made to select my design or another one. And then everybody including myself will agree with that. That is called “disagree, but commit”. You can’t do that in the Jury process. In the jury process, you disagree. That is it. Then it will be a hung jury. No second thoughts.
Was the jury’s behavior like this? Or were they “lead” to commonly acceptable decision as good team players? What was at stake was not an engineering design. It was a man’s life.
Having said that, I do not discredit the pain and emotional ordeal they might have gone through during those days. They are ordinary citizens like you and I. They probably did their best in the given circumstance. But the eventual discovery that they did not have all the information, the feeling that they were misguided, the feeling that they could be wrong, will be extremely painful.

pleased wrote:

>>>>>>>08/15/09 – 03:54 PM…
>>>>>>>Again, this has nothing to do with Hollywood. Woody Allen or other.
>>>>>>>She admitted that he was raping her within 2 months of her arriving here at age 15. She reported everything after she was living on >>>>>>>her own and out of their home (after 18)……
>>>>>>>His defense was that NOTHING ever happened.

Pleased, something you do not seem to know: Adoption happened much later after her first visit to USA. She was asked if she like to go back to USA and for her permission in the adoption. Adoptions proceedings involved physical and psychological evaluations and is a very extensive process. If she was raped within 2 months, I can guarantee that she would have never opted to stay with Ajay. Because, “being raped” is not an “enjoyable act”, if you do not know already. There would have enough warning signs. A poor Nepali or a bum in the SFO streets, both would never let her daughter live with somebody who raped her. Nepalese are human beings too… They too have something called “pride” and “respect”.

pleased also wrote:

…..
How did he know that anything happened outside of the US unless his client had told him about it directly?
……

Pleased, I do not know if you were a juror or not. The Jury was not present during the entire hearing, in the preliminary stages. Check the records. That is why people call this a “sham”. Shame to Yolo County and the entire nation.

Pleased also wrote:

…… Obviously, showing the porn did not work, he was found NOT GUILTY of the porn. (for the reason listed above) ……

Showing unrelated material to raise emotions in the Jury is a tactic employed. The Jury will subconsciously start seeing the defendant in place of the perpetrator in the video. It is a psychological tactic. Same is true in identification process with witnesses in other cases. If the police want to get a “YES” identification for a specific picture or person, what they do is to show the picture/person again and again discreetly (Six Photo Spread) so that the witness will start feeling familiarity with that person.

What you need is to look at the DA’s past record. It is very clear. His team has used unconstitutional and unethical methods in the past. We cannot call the DA’s office as ‘Guardians of justice’.

See the link:
http://davisvanguard.blogspot.com/2006/12/2006-year-in-davis-review_6269.html

read this part:
….”As one might imagine, given the large number of endorsements from key officials, Reisig had a strong and sustained advantage. He was able to out raise her and outspend her.

Despite these advantages, in the closing week of the race, it seemed close enough that Resig would pull out a very dirty campaign tactic. In 1999, while working as Deputy DA for Sacramento County, Pat Lenzi was involved in a serious automobile accident (a drunk driver hit her car) that had for a time caused her some memory problems. James Hawes was a sexual predator, who was convicted for committing a string of lewd and lascivious acts with a minor, sexual assault, and several other offense. This was a convicted sex offender who was trying to seize on this issue to get a new trial.

The Woodland Daily Democrat on May 31, 2006—just over one week prior to the election seized on this information printing an extremely slanted version of the story.”

Etc. Etc.

Just as you suspect that Ajay would have actually done it in spite of his successful polygraph test, you should also suspect that the DA’s office would have used “tactics” to win the case. “Pleased”, please do not just get “pleased” of everything you hear. Let your unbiased intellect digest some of the information that is coming through. Open up your windows, let some fresh air in, take a deep breath, and think…

Does “You F#$ed me after you turned 18….”) proved he raped 700 times???????

If you are convicting him over that sentence, punish him for that sentence, not for 700 times rape?

Did you get it????

>>>>>
NO WAY. Dev’s case is one thing. There is a team working on the appeal process. This blog is not going to set him free. This blog serves a larger purpose. It is to ROOT OUT THE EVIL that is rotting our justice system. Remove the anomaly. Expose the villains. Us e the democratic process to clean up the system. That process has to continue. It will happen before Ajay gets out free. So do not underestimate this effort.
If I have more reasons to believe that he has really done it, I would reverse my opinion and ask for a fair sentence for his crimes. But that will not change a thing about my perspective about the Yolo County Court System’s handling o f this case. EVERYBODY I talk to agrees with my view on that. I do not think anyone is interested arguing about Ajay’s innocence here anymore, because it is pretty clear that there is more than a reasonable doubt he could be innocent.

The only thing i did not agree with is the racial aspect of the DA protest. NEPALIS demand respect? If i’m correct, the girl was also nepali. Now, i dont know the facts so i cant and will not comment of the trial. The one thing is that the protesters should refrain from making this a racial issue. I understand the D.A gave pedroia less than one year and ajay 300 and something years-thats the point you want to target.

cheers

The following was posted in Daily Damocrat Blog by somebody named Jack Wallace. I do not know the facts first hand so I have no opinion on it, but I am reposting here. Thanks jake wallace.

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[QUOTE who=”jake wallace”]
Yolo criminal DA Jeff Reisig, mentally delusional on steroids, would never get away with if not for the judicial corruption in the Yolo superior court, Judge Stephen Mock a former Yolo supervisor, Judge Steve Basha, a former Yolo county council and (ret) Judge Donna M. Petre, presiding judge, 2005/06.
It’s criminal RICO all over again.
“But for many people the protest was more than just about the case. Some questioned the way the defense spoke about the Nepalese government, called the DA Jeff Reisig ‘racist,’ and asked for a federal probe of the Yolo County court system and along with a citizen review over all aspects of law enforcement.”
Selective prosecution. The day that DA Jeff Reisig, failed to hold now Sacramento chief probation officer, Don Meyer, and the county official’s that have concealed Chief Meyer’ criminal conduct, to now include Reisig, is the day that Jeff Reisig abused the office’s special powers and failed to protect the public interest.
(CV06-581-Yolo Superior Court 2006)
In on the scheme is now Judge Steve Basha, retired judge, Donna M. Petre, county council, Robyn Truitt Drivon and the supervisor’s, Helen Thomson, McGowan, now assembly women, Mariko Yamada and Duane Chamberlain.
How long will they get away with it? Will the Honorable Kenneth G. Petersen, Sacramento Superior Court Presiding Juvenile Judge, investigate CPO Meyer’ criminal spree after Judge Petersen appointed him?
How much longer will Reisig operate the grand as a the handmaid, to protect CPO Meyer and other reckless public official’s?
The court clearly concluded that the grand jury is free and independent in indicting the accuseds without approval or concurrence of the District Attorney. Recently a California Court of Appeal in the Case of Bradley v. Lacey, 53 Cal.App4th 883 (March 25, 1997), concluded this about Grand Jury’s powers: “It is apparent from the foregoing description of the grand jury’s powers with respect to public offenses that it is not the mere handmaid of the district attorney…. The decision whether or not to indict, to initiate a criminal prosecution, resides entirely with the grand jury.”
Please take a close look also at the case of Lorenson v. Superior Court, 35 C.2d 49 (1950), where the California Supreme Court ruled on page59 and 60 of the case that “A conspiracy with or among public officials not to perform their official duty to enforce criminal laws is an obstruction of justice an indictable offense at common law.”
“This means that if judges deliberately fail to report criminal violation by other, such as judges, as they are required by California Code of Judicial Conduct, Canon 3D, the silent judge just joined a conspiracy to obstruct and pervert justice.” Lorenson v. Superior Court, 35 C.2d 49 (1950); People v. Martin, 135 Cal. App.3d 710 (1982).
Judges, prosecutors and court commissioners are public officers. They are not above the law; no one is above the law. Unfortunately, prosecutors, county government lawyers and judges often misinform grand jurors and tell them that the grand jury “has no jurisdiction to investigate judges or courts”, but such a statement would simply be not true.
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LAAJ NABHAYEKA AAJAYA KA PUCHHAR HARU …. THUKKKA!!!! TIMI HARU LAI AJAYA JASTO BIGREKO BRAIN BHAYEKO MANCHHE KO SUPPORT GARNA??!

YO 8 OR 10 JANA LE NIKALEKO BIRODH…!!! THUKKKKA ()TIMI HARU KO MUKH MAI PARNE GARERA.

Interesting:
http://davisvanguard.blogspot.com/2007/01/khalid-berny-case-of-discriminatory.html
http://davisvanguard.blogspot.com/2007/01/commentary-some-things-are-just-not.html
http://www.davisvanguard.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=133:deputy-da-makes-outrageous-claims-against-buzayans&catid=74:law-enforcement&Itemid=100

Pleased wrote about the motel receipts. Just so that you know and as was in the evidence package, Ajay would go off to motel every time he would be upset and needed time to be by himself. He has done this many many times. Almost always his family members (yes any one of his family members) would go and meet him at the Hotel/motel and talk him into coming home. Here again the Jury failed to think things through.

Greg wrote about arrogance of Ajay. Think for a moment the cultural ARROGANCE and IGNORANCE the jury members applied to not FIND him guilt but to MAKE him guilty by failure and lack of any level of diligence. These people did not know or understand Nepali culture, people or the language. They heard the expert witness explain the You Fd me thing spoken in Nepal to mean nothing more than how we would say “you screwed me over after you turned eighteen”, yet they proceeded to give their own version of IGNORANT interpretation and cost this man his life and destroyed severed a family. If that is not ARROGANCE I don’t know what is. An innocent man falsely framed and convicted can say what, how, when and as loud as he pleases. He does not owe humbleness to anyone.

Each one of these Jury members have cost this man his life and need to do serious soul searching and reconcile with their soul and God and find peace. I don’t mean by begging God for forgiveness for their injustice and then just moving on. In my culture we believe in Karma, if you go good good will happen to you, if you do bad….

I sit here mourn the death of the innocence of my culture by the ARROGANCE, IGNORANCE of this Jury and this CORRUPTION of this system.

this guy is only facing up to 30 yrs for doing similar stuff to an even younger girl just not being legal guardian:
http://childsafetywatch.blogspot.com/2009/05/christopher-selfridge-accused-of.html

To S. Pali, Purveyor of the Redundant (Part 1):

Here are my answers to your overtly illiterate questions:

1. I assume you knew her for years, did she tell you that she was being raped all the years?

No, she never told me about it. I have since learned that many rape victims often feel ashamed about what has been done to them, and rarely want to talk about it. They feel as though they are somehow responsible for what has happened to them, and feel as though they could have prevented it. Clearly, that was never the case. The victim could have never prevented what had happened to her, nor could she have in any way been responsible for the sick acts Ajay performed upon her.

2. why did she not report it?

Again, she felt humiliated and violated, and didn’t want to add feeling exposed to the long list of horrible things she was feeling.

3. If she shared it with you, why did you not report it?

She never shared any of this with me. She wanted a normal life so badly, and was ashamed at what happened to her (again, as many rape victims irrationally feel), so she told no one what had been happening to her—not even me, her true friend who has undergone much harassment from the Nepali community and even Peggy Dev herself. Who went to visit the victim every day that she was in California for the trial? Who stood by the victim’s side throughout it all? ME. In fact, if I remember correctly, I was the only one who called her regularly to see how she was doing while she was being held against her will in Nepal.

4. is it not a crime to be be aware of the crime and do nothing about it on your part?

I am not familiar with the law concerning these situations, but if I had been cognizant of the fact, I believe that it would be a crime, but again, I knew nothing of what was happening to my friend. Your questions are becoming more cyclical and redundant the further along this list I go…

even this county is better imo:
http://www.topix.com/forum/county/tehama-ca/TML9B90F3L5B9CD9J

Cassandra,

I want to believe you and the accuser, I really honestly do. Why? Because as a victim of sexual abuse, I find it beyond horrifying to think that any woman would lie about something of this magnitude. As you said, most victims of sexual abuse never report it, due to the shame it evokes. I’m one of those people who never had the courage to come forward. If I had had a friend as vociferous and fiery as you appear to be, I may have found the courage… who knows?

As this young woman’s best friend, who says she honestly believes her story, I am puzzled about something. Why did you avoid being served a subpoena? I read on other blogs, as well as this one, that you were aware that they were trying to serve you, and you say here that you “would have surely been the last nail in Ajay’s coffin.” Why did you not make it your business to testify on behalf of your friend? Knowing that the attorney’s investigator was going to your home regularly looking for you, I’m sure it would have been relatively simple to contact the defense attorney or DA and make your desire to support your friend known. You have demonstrated in writing on several blogs that you are angry, articulate and not afraid, so why didn’t you testify?

Oh, and one more thing, Puzzled: If you really were the victim of sexual abuse, your sentiments would have immediately leaned toward support for the victim and not toward one of doubt and suspicion, especially if you were in that same situation. If anything, this case would have brought back memories of your own traumatic experiences, and would have elicited emotions of sadness, horror, and outrage over what has happened to my friend, not to mention satisfaction that justice/karma/comeuppance has truly been served in the form of a 378-year sentence. Since I only see doubt and skepticism from your questions, I can only determine that you’re either an outright liar, an individual who has truly been scarred by her own traumatic past, or another one of Ajay’s supporters who possess no real desire to find the ultimate truth, but rather to come up with rhetorical questions that you do not wish to hear the answers to. In any case, I sympathize with your plight, and hope that you can find peace, whatever your true situation might be.

Namaste.

S. Pali

I can assure you that the jury did look at that statement and tried to figure out other explanations for it. Unfortunately, they kept coming back to “you gave me consent”. Had the statement been “you f–ked me” or “you are f–king me” it could have been misinterpreted. The jury kept coming back to “what does consent have to do with screwing someone over. Please remember that for 2 months, the ENTIRE defense was that NOTHING ever happened. It was all her imagination.

I have also come to realize that in Nepal and other countries, a young girl would by no means go to her father if she thought she was pregnant out of wedlock. In this case, she did, and he paid for her “abortion”. Have you ever heard of a Nepali father going along with his Nepali daughter to an abortion clinic AND paying for whatever services are rendered?

Pleased,

my last post is intended for you.

I find it interesting that S. Pali keeps on bringing up the context of the “Nepali culture,” and yet what he/she refuses to admit to is that Ajay is an American citizen, and should have known how to conduct his behavior in accordance with the parameters of our “western culture.” He has lived in the U.S. for over 30 years, and so he should have known that calling up individuals that one has no association with and threatening them in any way is unacceptable in ANY culture. Your logic, is then stunted, Pali. Lie down before you make a bigger mockery of yourself.

Pleased thank you for your honest response. I am still not sure if Jury was placed in a fair position with enough cultural interpretation from both sides and perhaps was left in an unfair position to use their own interpretation.

Like I said before to those people hoping he’ll get raped in prison or killed or that prisoners somehow hold this “code of honor” for society or whatever crap you people spout. Just read this article about an aryan brotherhood hit on a cop that was absed on the cop killing a leader who himself killed his pregnang girlfriend (so in essence a baby killer):

http://www.lawofficer.com/news-and-articles/news/Three_Aryan_Brotherhood_Members_Accused_of_Plotting_to_Kill_NM_Deputy.html

“The letter was written in April 2005 by Richard “Hawk” Aue, a general of the Aryan Brotherhood who remains in prison in Texas, to AB members allegedly directing them to kill Anders to avenge the death of one of their own. Anders, an Otero County sheriff’s deputy, shot handcuffed Aryan Brotherhood leader Earl Lee Flippen in December 2004 during a domestic violence callout in Cloudcroft with a fellow deputy. Anders filed the fatal shot after finding his partner shot dead by Flippen and Flippen’s dead, pregnant girlfriend in a closet.

Donald “Donny” Wilson, the prosecution’s star witness in this and two other related cases that have yet to be tried, was among recipients of the letter, which he translated almost line by line.

“Evil ones” refers to cops and corrections officers, Wilson said in response to questions from Assistant U.S. Attorney Randy Castellano.

“Aunt Claire” means a rival gang, the Aryan Circle.

“Kites” are letters. They are sent to “hubs” or secretaries, usually women, living outside prison who redistribute them to AB members in prison.

Aue’s letter complains about Flippen having “sugarcoated and straight out lied to me,” “getting his pregnant girlfriend and himself done in” and drawing negative, unwanted attention to the Aryan Brotherhood.

“Whatever Flip was doing it wasn’t for us or about us & he sure as hell wasn’t holding our brand as he should’ve,” the letter says.

But Wilson said that language was to throw off law enforcement officers Aue knew would be reading it.

Wilson testified that the letter contains a coded directive for murder – when he says “anyone who thinks I am not taking this serious is smoking crack,” calls for more “descretion” and announces plans for starting a “number system,” which Wilson said referred to identifying tattoos of true AB members.

Defense attorneys are sure to contest his reading when they get a chance to crossexamine Wilson. Cook’s attorney Bernadette Sedillo said in her opening statement that Flippen was on the outs with the AB leadership and the AB didn’t plan any action in retaliation for his death. Leaders suspected “Flip” of betraying the organization, she said, despite its requirements of a “blind-faith commitment” and an irrevocable lifetime membership.

And Stephen Hosford, who represents Thompson, an AB general, told jurors the letters written in prison slang “are subject to a lot of interpretation, Wilson can interpret them in a way beneficial to his interests.” “

This shows that they don’t care about kids, or baby killers and Im sure child mollesters as well. All they care about is money and profit and if you can prove yourself to them by being extremely violent in there no matter you’re crime Im sure they’ll find use for you and you’ll adapt to the environment. They aren’t some righteous morality police or anything like that in there, it’s all for themselves wolves vs wolves. I mean look at the Hell’s Angels, back in the 60s they raped some 14 yr olds and still had support from their crew. Maybe I’m wrong in a way though, maybe only mollestors/sex cirminals/baby killers/etc. that are unaffiliated or uncriminal are targeted but those who have power or backing aren’t?

Posted at http://www.advocatesforajay.com

Yolo County District Attorney’s Office Cease and Desist.
Stop lying to the People of California!

We will not permit the Yolo County District Attorney’s Office to continue to perpetuate lies and to spin stories in the case of Ajay Dev. We are here to expose the DA’s office for the corrupt practices it engages in, including outright lies to the public in and out of trial in order to gain convictions. The record will confirm the following facts:

Deputy District Attorney Steve Mount said that Ajay kept the accuser out of the country to avoid prosecution. However, he knew the accuser dropped the case a month before going to Nepal. Mount kept the Nepal Court documents out of evidence because he knew it would show the accuser (an adult) was convicted of criminal passport fraud by the Government of Nepal, and that the conviction was upheld in their Appellate Court. It would also show the accuser as a manipulative, not so innocent girl contrary to the picture the DA’s office has painted in the press and in court. Mount knew these documents would show that the accuser had a motive for re-opening this case against Ajay, without this case she could not immigrate back to the US. Mount knew that in 2006 her own biological father told them, it was the Nepal government, NOT Ajay, who put the case against the accuser, and that is why she was kept in Nepal.

The DA said Ajay followed the accuser to Nepal. Ajay went to Nepal before the accuser. Ajay and his father traveled to Nepal due to a death in the family of his first cousin who was responsible for the lives of 8 people, leaving them with no means of support.

Mount told the jury that Ajay never denied the allegations in the pre-text call. Ajay directly denied the allegations 27 times, indirectly 25 times–in English and Nepali–throughout the 50 minute call. Mount said Ajay admitted to the crime on the pretext phone call. If Mount’s assertion is true, then why didn’t Mount arrest Ajay in 2004 when he allegedly admitted it? If there was an admission of guilt, why did the accuser admit multiple times on the taped phone call that Ajay did not give her the admission she wanted – because it was NOT an admission.

Mount said Ajay showed the accuser pornography. The court record shows Ajay was found NOT guilty. The pornography was not on Ajay’s computer, as Mount claims; it was on the accuser’s computer. Forensic evidence showed that the pornography was being viewed while Ajay was at work, and was NOT viewed after she moved out of the home.

The DA said Ajay was responsible for three abortions. Ajay was NOT found guilty. Evidence shows the accuser did NOT have 3 abortions. She only had 1 abortion and coincidentally a boyfriend (NOT Ajay) at the time. She indicated on clinical forms her sexual partner did not have any other partners (Ajay is married). I t was proven that the accuser forged Ajay’s signature on a clinic document trying to frame him.
If the evidence in the case against Ajay Dev is strong enough to merit 378 years in prison, why the lies? What is more important the TRUTH or winning the case! The DA Jeff Reisig and Deputy DA Steve Mount are trying to conceal the truth. Stop lying to the People of California!

The only ones who are guilty of a crime is the jurors who were swayed/bored/tired/and misled under false pretenses by a Judge and a DA. Wake up people! You have to live with this for the rest of your lives too.

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What I can tell you is that there were two completely different people on that phone. There was the English Ajay who was extremely voistrous demanding that she go to the Police and that he will go there also to defend himself. Then there was the crying, quiet, and to a point whispering Nepali Ajay who told her to not go to the Police and to not ever mention the events. Her career and college would be destroyed with her future and her family would be “shamed”. At the end of the call, he asks her to meet him the next morning to “talk”.

While I have no idea how different cultures respond to different circumstances, I cannot ever imagine a man being accused of rape by his daughter to repond as he did….

Based on this? If this were you you would too demand a retrial! Foolish and will always weigh on your mind…Why do you continue to justify yourself if you know you are correct> The facts are, ‘THIS IS NOT JUSTICE!’ I hope you don’t find yourself in position like this. May GOD heal your absence and you find strength in a fair and just life. Seriously…this man is innocent. You must understand the depth of the culture—-Instead of spending your time defending your poor finding, why not investigate properly. Dig in and the truth shall set you and your comrades free. Free from guilt.

Pleased,
You may not find your self in this position in this lifetime. It sickened me to see you and the other two jurors smoking your cigarettes smiling away while you chatted with the DA and Investigator on the side of the courthouse. That is the problem…you all were way too close…and you think you really made a just decision? Come on….I saw you eating lunch….walking too and from various places in town with those guys…..even while the case was going on? Three of you in particular—I am not going to get personal but I think this behavior was similar to the too close relationship that the Judge and DA shared. Just a matter of time….until you all are exposed. How possibly can hundreds of supporters be wrong and twelve jurors with not enough respect to wear more than a pair of jeans to court be right? See you around.

I could be wrong, but I thought there was a standard six month gag order on jurors writing about a case–am I wrong?

Okay, my apologies for insinuating otherwise.

His lawyer had as much opportunity to talk to the jurors and ask their opinions. He did not take that opportunity at the time. He chose to do it later by phone. There is no friendship, relationship, or chatty pal issue. There was no anything during the trial. After everything was done, the jurors were asked questions and they answered.

I wish you luck with a new trial…..

Cassandra,
So you are the other juror….You are right! This about Karma-YOURS. Nothing about this case is factual….that is the point! We are all fools, fighting for a guilty superhero? NO! This case was a sham that will be repaired. Initially innocent, then swayed by crybaby tactics (is that pleased excuse?). The language was misinterpreted in the phone transcript….That is beyond a reasonable doubt? I don’t think so….and that is why you found him guilty? Suptna did not even say anything beyond, I don’t remember or I don’t know. NO EVIDENCE! The case was all built up by a racial DA with a biased judge and a WEAK & EVIL jury. You are no better than any person to judge the way you are. I am only fighting for what I know is the truth…you are only defending the poor and fast decision you made. I am done here…..see you around.

Todd, you are the biggest moron I’ve ever met–kudos! NO, I’m not one of the jurors. If you’d been paying attention (YET AGAIN), you’d know that I am a very close friend of the VICTIM’S. Because of this very simple fact, I could have NEVER been on the panel of jurors. I was there for the SENTENCING, and not for the entirety of the trial. Again, pull your head out of your a**.

Oh, and one more thing. It is very very poor form to bring up the victim’s name in any public forum. And, you spelled her name incorrectly.

Cassandra: Also, if you continue to insult people, I’m going to start pulling your posts. I already had to edit one of your posts, I don’t have time to go through them. Calling people a moron is not acceptable. Please read the terms you agreed to.

David

I am just curious, how is it that Cassandra can be on the hot seat by calling someone a moron yet Todd is here telling flat out lies and calling the jurors names and he is off scott free. Where is his warning? Todd did not see anyone going to lunch or “hanging” out with the DA. He may have seen jurors outside smoking or chatting with each other or even at times laughing. The jurors are human too and at times, needed to get out of the courthouse and see the light of day…..

Considering most of his posts verge on threatening….

Cassandra: Taking a veiled shot in the form of an apology is not acceptable. If you are interested in the literature on the subject, I’m sure you know how to find it. I am far from convinced that there is a racial component to this. From my standpoint, I think the DA’s office consistently overcharges people in this county and rarely faces the consequences for doing so. By the same token, I don’t believe you can merely rule it out. If you do a search, I am sure you can find survey research that shows that minority defendants in this country are more likely to be charged, convicted, and sentenced to longer sentences for comparable crimes regardless of the race of their victim.

I am with you Cassandra…

Good bye.

Why did the prosecution fail to produce any forensic and/or empirical evidence that would substantiate the presence of trauma in the accuser, consistent with a psychological and physiological examination?

Why did the accuser fail to report the rapes to her personal physician?

Why did the accuser fail to request a vaginal examination from her personal physician?

Why did the accuser forge the defendant’s name on a medical document?

If the accuser perjured herself under oath, regarding the defendant’s responsibility for her two pregnancies; can we then rationally conclude that she is capable of lying under oath about the alleged rapes?

How do you explain the psychological temperament of a woman who concurrent with her allegations of being raped by the defendant on a regular basis; succeeds in getting impregnated by two different sperm donors?

What physical evidence did the prosecution produce in court to confirm that the accuser was EVER raped and/or molested by the defendant?

Why did the prosecution fail to produce in court the “naked” photographs allegedly taken by the defendant of the accuser?

The answer is quite simple.

The accuser (previously convicted in a Nepali court of law for forgery + perjury) is a sociopath.

The tragedy in the Dev case was the jury’s inability to:

1. Discern the difference between FACT v. FABLE.

2. Acknowledge that the absence of something (evidence) cannot be invoked as a construct to prove the veracity of a claim.

3. Comprehend that if the only witness (the accuser) lies under oath (repeatedly)…reasonable doubt is confirmed and by virtue of conscience + law you must acquit.

Thank you Shanti and Darconville for helping me illustrate my point….I am finding it increasingly difficult to productively express my cries out for justice…..At the very least we have exposed just another negative influence in the sentencing of an innocent man.

Woman kidnapped as child resurfaces 18 years later
This man will probably get no more than 20 years for a crime with fact and evidence….Ajay Dev, an innocent man gets 378 years for a crime he did not commit?
PLACERVILLE, Calif.– Joyous, miraculous news that a little girl kidnapped nearly two decades ago was found alive gave way Thursday to the horrifying details of how police say she has lived all those years: kept in captivity by a convicted rapist in his backyard and forced to bear two of his children.
Jaycee Lee Dugard, who was 11 in 1991 when she was snatched from her school bus stop, was locked away from the outside world behind a series of fences, sheds and tents in the back of a suburban home.
Her abductor, investigators said, raped her and fathered two children with her, the first when Jaycee was about 14. Those children, both girls now 11 and 15, also were kept hidden away in the backyard compound.
Convicted sex offender Phillip Garrido, 58, was being held for investigation of various kidnapping and sex charges. His wife, Nancy Garrido, 54, was also arrested, and authorities said she was with Garrido during the kidnapping in South Lake Tahoe.
Garrido was on lifetime parole and his arrest raises questions about how closely parolees are monitored. But Kollar said a parole officer who had visited Garrido’s house previously had not noticed anything amiss — the compound was well concealed by shrubs, garbage cans and a tarp.
“We never thought anything bad about the guy,” Allen said. “He was just kind of nutty.”
Garrido gave a rambling, sometimes incoherent phone interview to KCRA-TV from the El Dorado County jail Thursday in which he said he had not admitted to a kidnapping and that he had turned his life around since the birth of his first daughter 15 years ago.

In addition to kidnapping allegations, court records showed both Garridos were being held for investigation of rape by force, lewd and lascivious acts with a minor and kidnapping someone under 14 with intent to rape. Phillip Garrido also faces allegations of sexual penetration.
Garrido has a long rap sheet dating back to the 1970s.
He was convicted of kidnapping a 25-year-old woman whom he snatched from a South Lake Tahoe parking lot, handcuffed, tied down and held in a mini-warehouse in Reno, according to a November 1976 story in the Reno Gazette-Journal.
He also has a conviction for rape by force or fear stemming from the same incident, and was paroled from a Nevada state prison in 1988, according to the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.
Associated Press Writers Paul Elias and Terry Collins in San Francisco, Gillian Flaccus in Orange, Calif., Brooke Donald in Antioch, Calif., and Sandi Chereb in South Lake Tahoe, Calif. contributed to this report.

I can’t believe there are some fools actually protesting in front of DA’s office and calling him a racist? Isn’t the victim a Nepali? So how can this be a racist issue? I’m sick and tired of these fools trying to bring out the race card. C’mon its too much. Its getting stupid now

Hey yep,

You are an idiot to still think it was racist. You are probably one of those fools who think you were a victim of race when someone cut you off on the highway. Stop this nonsense. If you feel that you are victimized then go back to the country you came from.

This guy Ajay Dev reminds me of the father in Austria that kept his daughter in a dungeon and repeatedly raped her. And still so many people support this creep? I don’t know what he gave them for them to take his side. Because obviously they don’t know what happened inside his house with the victim and him. He maybe a decent man in public but a freak at home. So people shouldn’t blindly support this creep even after he has been convicted with all the evidences against him. And besides, the jurors never knew him before. Since they all said that he was guilty, then I truly believe he was guilty.

To Shanti
You sound do dumb. I pray something like this happens to someone in your family. Then I will definitely support the rapist. Then i want to see how you feel. A little girl was raped. What do you know about the pain? I have been throught this and I know. You are sitting behind the comuter and giving me stupid explanations to support the rapist? Please !!! Even I had a hard time convincing everyone because he was a prominent and respected member of the society. You cannot trust a person based on how he acts in front of you. Some people still hate me for this. I don’t know why. They still give me the looks when I walk outside because I came out and said the truth. But my only problem is he is in prison instead of getting executed for what he did to me. You will neer know what it feels like untill someone in your family falls prey to rapists like this. And to the victim in this case, don’t listen to stupid people like this. They are just trash. You just put this all behnd you and lift your head up and do your thing.

Folks: Again, I implore you to keep this civil, I just deleted five messages from last night that were completely inappropriate. When you post, you are agreeing to the terms of usage.

http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/akon-molests-14-year-old-girl-on-stage-video/

“Personally, I thought the victim was lying and didn’t believe what she said, but my thoughts, feelings, and biases were not in evidence. But when a person says, “You f#cked me after you were 18, that means you gave me consent.” Then victim responds, “I didn’t give you consent.” What normal interpretation should a person have”

Wow…more wow…and even more WOW! So you and the other 11 convince yourselves that Ajay has been raping her about 750 times. Wow..I thought English language is your first language and probably the only one with very good command. Even though English happens to be my fourth language I seem to understand what the english phrase means better than any of you. The words “AFTER you were 18” means she is already 18. Correct me if I am wrong. The words “you gave me consent” means it is no force. Correct me again. So you and 11 others come to a conclusion that Ajay is a rapist. No wonder most people fail in their logic classes at college.
Regardless, remember that the whole conversation begins and revolves around 3 abortions and abortion clinic. Yes, she accuses him of sleeping with her in between the conversation many times which Ajay vehemently denies many many times. And even in Nepali. Were the jurors aware of this that he denied it also in Nepali only a minute and half after this “admitting phrase?” Were you also aware that she only after 30 seconds of this “admitting phrase” wants ajay to admit it. Her exact words were “because I want you to talk to me. I want you to say it.”

And here is the biggest one. All these jurors who have commented left out a word preceding the phrase. Ajay said “BECAUSE you have f’d…” What about this “BECAUSE” and why not “I” instead of “YOU?” After all the DDA presented Ajay as a control freak. What it may seem for an American as a control freak could very easily be seen by a Nepalese person as someone who is involved in EVERY aspect of life of the child. I am not going to stereotype an American Culture as I am an AMERICAN but Ajay was CLEARLY stereotyped. And if he were really a control freak why would he not boast by saying “I f’d you after you were 18?” Instead he says “because you have f’d me after 18 years of your age.” Don’t forget that all of this is a translation from Nepali and not every thing is translated in the most perfect way. One just needs to read a poem in a different language that is your native and then read its translation in english to understand this logic.

Coming back to the whole conversation revolving mostly on the topic of 3 abortions and abortion clinic. Ajay never took her to an ABORTION clinic. He took her one and only time to see if his daughter was pregnant to a CLINIC. I already explained in my post earlier that most of the times the father takes the daughter to a clinic in Nepal, especially if it is an abortion issue. Obviously, the jury members stereotyped here as well. He was suspecting that his daughter was sleeping around at the time anyway which obviously got confirmed during the trial since there were at least two different guys that she was involved with during this period. Why did the DDA use the word ABORTION clinic? It is obvious. Look at us Americans with the topic of abortion. We have very strong opinion about it.

First Hand, Shanti and others involved;
Who did literal translation from Nepali sentences on pretext to English for the Prosecution and what did it say in English?

What did language expert for Prosecution say about the Nepali Sentences “Because you f”d me..” to mean?

Who did literal translation from Nepali sentences on pretext to English for the Defense and what did it say in English?

What did the language expert for Defense say about the Nepali Sentences “Because you f”d me..” to mean?

Which one convinced the jury and why? Only the facts, and analysis please.

one more scenario.

person 1: you threatened to kill me.
person 2: “hum kahiyo na kahaliyo.” (translated: No I never said it)
person 1: you did threaten to kill me.
person 2: “hum kahiyo naw kahilyo. kathile kahechi? kathi chahichi? nahi kahu. kathile hamra fasabaichi.” (translated: no, I never said it. Why are you saying this? What do you want from me? Stop it. Stop framing me.
person 1: you did say you were going to kill me.
person 2: “hum kahaliyo tora maarbo.”(translation: I said I will kill you)

the word maarbo means to spank, to beat, to whoop, to kill. Person 1 may be talking about spanking her. But even if she knows what person 2 is referring to, she can frame him by choosing the word “kill” instead of spank.

Imagine that there is 35 minutes of conversation before the phrases above where person 2 has denied many times and there is another 20 minutes of conversation where he continues to deny. But you are told by the DDA to only focus on the above phrases. The verdict will return most likely guilty if the above phrases are not explained to the jury members in a cultural and linguistic context.

The DDA did just that with the phrase “you f’d me after….”. He gave his own interpretation by taking it out of context, by adding lies about Nepali culture, and adding more lies about the country, its people, its government, etc. during the last 45 minutes of his closing argument. He omitted the central focus of the entire conversation and the anger it may have caused Ajay from this accusation, and even saying that Ajay never denied(had denied 27 times), or lying about Ajay’s state of mind, and why Nepali was spoken and even more lies were continued. The case was closed and the jury members were ready for delibaration with the defense never getting a chance to explain it.

Still, the accuser lied throughout and there were hundreds of other evidences to exonerate Ajay but the jury threw the entire defense away because of this phrase. If there was a DNA evidence exonerating Ajay, the jury would have thrown it away as well from this logic.

In my opinion, a complete failure of our judicial system. Just like “if the glove don’t fit, you must acquit,” in Yolo County, if it goes to trial then convict by any means necessary.

Sorry for the typo in the 2nd paragraph.

I happened to get some light on the gang case that was discussed earlier in this blog. One story goes like this: A girl danced with a man in a night club once, completely clueless that he was a gang member. That was enough for her to be blamed as a gang member. By the same DA, Ajay is falsely accused. Talk about justice!!!
I see that people are still talking about the tape conversation. Why; because, those who accuse Ajay want you to center around the topic. That is all they have got. Everybody knows that it was taken out of context. Why waste your time on it? Instead, focus on other things; like what our beloved guardian angels of justice are doing in the name of policing. There are more than enough evidence to trigger an investigation – abuse of power, favoritism, and racism. That will be much easier, than teaching Sanskrit to the buffalos (or even better, teaching Nepalese to the wild hogs).
You need not teach eastern culture to Americans. All the great philosophers from the east came to America to teach philosophy and culture, only to gain wide recognition. That is because Americans in general have an independent mind, and are open to new ideas, new cultures, and new way of thinking. They have a kind heart. However, there is a minority who tarnishes that American free will. They run away from diversity into isolated communities, where they find their safe havens. As, such safe heavens are dwindling, they do frantic things whenever they get an opportunity. Ajay’s case is a good example. Ajay will be declared innocent in a few years. What is equally important is to make sure that this does not happen to another innocent person. You need to fight to break that safe heaven. You must fight to bring those who abused our justice system to justice! If that can’t happen in a reasonable timeframe, there is no point in anybody touting the greatness of American Justice System.

I am so happy that Ajay the rapist is off to prison. While some people like shanti and unbiased can’t get over it still, even after all this evidence and even after the jurors said he is guilty, I am pleased with the judges judgement. They can say all they want. Because what he did to the girl must be happening to him in prison now. Give up your futile fight for this rapist because the jurors and judge were the same “Americans with an independent mind, and are open to new ideas, new cultures, and new way of thinking” like unbiased said earlier. They didn’t know Ajay or his family. They made an unbiased descision with all the evidence that they got put forth to them. Ajay had a prominent, one of the best lawyers in town. He paid him tons of money to win this case. But he still didn’t win. Now that shows that Ajay was indeed guilty. What do you guys know what his lawyer didn’t already know? You guys can write anything you want. And you can cntinue writing to his website. JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED. One more rapist off to prison.

for someone who is calls himself unbiased u seem to be kissing a lot of the other parties behind. did he or his family do you some extra favors? you know what i mean? i’ve heard what happens in the ajay dev’s house(the XXX parties and such). Are you involved too? and are you saying the Ajay haters have to be scared? ooooh i’m peeing in my pants already. jeez get a life mate.
and what are u implying? just because the DA defended a Rapist he automatically has connections with the mafia? WOW. don’t know where you pick up garbage like this. first it was the race thing. now mafia?? You make me laugh. In fact i’m laughing so much that i can’t hardly get up. get off your mamas basement and get a dose of reality.
oh by the way, have fun with the stranger you met. are you taking him/her to Ajay’s party?

hey shanti
i bet you are yet another used sloppy disgusting trash that ajay grinded onto in one of his sex parties.

“Because what he did to the girl must be happening to him in prison now.”

bullshet, if the justice system threw him to the wolves so to speak and hsi civil rights were violated where he feels unsafe his family could easily sue the justice department or the prison system (bureau of prisons). Look at phil spector being transferred to a whole new prison just for feeling unsafe by Manson sending him a letter (he was already in protection even before this):
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090902/ap_on_en_mu/us_phil_spector_2

plus, there are plenty of hard timers and lifers living the life of crime and also raping/mollesting along the way who are left alone in prison. Look at that Richard Allen Davis guy who was in and out of prison and I dont believe he was ever raped or is now and he’s even kept with some other inmates around him in the yard:
http://www.justicejunction.com/judicial_injustice_richard_allen_dean.htm

heck he ratted on two guys in prison and was put in pc and later re arrested many times so i doubt he was scared off or punished inside the system by other cons for even being a rat.

Also, who are you to romanticise and identify with other low life dirtbag scum inmates just because this guy raped or not raped some sociopath money grabbing gold digger? Was she ur girlfriend or are you a male feminist or what?

Here’s the best possible example of why the jury should hope and pray they got it right, particularly in light of the fact that there was literally ZERO proof that Ajay committed these crimes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/8243991.stm

Excellent radio broadcast about the Dev Case tonight. A lot of information was brought forth regarding the unfairness of this case. I only felt that the time was too short. I would like to have heard more about the case.

David’s radio show this past Wednesday spent an entire hour looking at this case specifically. Go to http://kdrt.org/station/archives/115 to hear the show.

We got this “that will never happen to me” mentality. So we feel free to stand back and judge.

Sort of like when people watch someone on TV in an abusive relationship, and say “why didn’t they just leave them!” and go “if that were me”. When the point is… it’s not them, and they should hope that it will never happen to themselves.
if I phrased that right.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-01/how-young-is-too-young/

http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?at_code=437535&no=385704&rel_no=1

http://www.newkerala.com/news/fullnews-26628.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/30/sharon-tates-sister-sex-w_n_304042.html?page=6&show_comment_id=31956414

hypocricity much?