Monday Morning Thoughts II: Weist Won’t Simply Leave Quietly


One of the most interesting backstories of the city in the last year or so is that the firefighters’ union president, Bobby Weist, once the most powerful single figure in the city, has increasingly lost whatever influence he once had in city governance.  Even those who were bound to give him the benefit of the doubt have reportedly lost patience.

The lawsuit recently filed is only the latest and most notable incident. Of course it wasn’t always like this – at one point, Bobby Weist was the most powerful figure in city government.  The Vanguard, over its ten years, has spent much time chronicling and exposing the power and excesses of Mr. Weist.

Under his leadership, the firefighters gained four on an engine, 3 percent at 50, and a huge 36 percent pay raise from 2005 to 2009, that put the Davis firefighters near the very top in the region in total compensation, with many making as much as $200 to $250K in total compensation, including salary and overtime pay.

How powerful was Mr. Weist?  In 2009, he convinced three councilmembers to vote not to read a report by an independent investigator into excesses by Mr. Weist and the Davis Fire Department, which first came to light in the 2008 Yolo County Grand Jury report.

It would take five years and multiple lawsuits before the Davis Vanguard and Attorney Paul Boylan brought forward the full report to the public which, as it turns out, highlighted the favoritism that allowed Mr. Weist to ascend to Captain even though he was less qualified than most, which allowed for a climate of intimidation and harassment of those who spoke out against the union.

It was the Vanguard which pushed back against these excesses, and a council, now free of union influences that had purchased a council from 2002 to 2010 that was beholden to it.  By 2013, with a new council, new city manager, and interim fire chief in place, the city began to reform the fire department – holding the line on salaries, reducing personnel and threatening the very power of Mr. Weist through a shared management agreement with UC Davis.

The firefighters did everything in their power to resist – holding protests, walking precincts, holding no confidence votes, and even doing work slowdowns.  But council was able to get through the reforms, sometimes on narrow 3-2 votes in the face of public pushback from key local elected officials.

This is the backdrop for what would happen in the spring of 2013.  Ironically, were it not for the fact that Mr. Weist took his grievance to PERB (Public Employment Relations Board), we would not know the depths of his insolence.

The city writes that the sequence of events was that, on the morning of March 13, Captain Weist would “loudly and publicly” complain in front of his crew about this “bullshit training.”  He proclaimed that “the City would have to buy him and his firefighters dinner as the training was in the evening.”

Division Chief Shawn Kinney, in the mid-afternoon, noted that there “was a request from Captain Weist for vacation leave that same day, with a start time beginning when Weist’s engine company was to be preparing for that night’s drill.  This was the very first time Division Chief Kinney had any information to suggest that Captain Weist did not intend to go to the training scheduled for himself and his crew.”

Division Chief Kinney and Interim Fire Chief Steve Pierce discussed the matter, including the necessity of the training and the value to the firefighters, “and how difficult it would be to obtain substitute training.”  They determined, based on MOU provisions, that Mr. Weist’s “last-minute vacation request was in conflict with this important training (and) could be denied.”

Upon learning of this denial, “Weist became very angry and immediately advised Division Chief Kinney that he would be going home ‘sick.’  Captain Weist left work, and his engine company attended and completed the scheduled training under the supervision of an alternate captain assigned to them (as an overtime assignment) for the event.”

Mr. Weist had a long history of failing to get his unit sufficient training hours, but the leadership at the DFD never enforced the rules.  This is quite ironic because he has attempted to argue that, under the current system, training standards have declined.

On April 9, 2013, Fire Division Chief Bruce Fry, in a memo to Captain Weist, noted in a long list of complaints that Mr. Weist does not meet current standards for things such as completing 20 hours of training each month for himself and his crew.

This is, in fact, not the first time such a problem has been noted.  The fire audit noted that his shift rarely hit its training hours and he failed to file reports in a complete and prompt matter.

In the memo it stated that he would receive written evaluations monthly for the next six months.

Division Chief Fry wrote, “You have over 28 years of fire experience.  It is expected the quality of your work will reflect that experience.” It adds, “Failure to meet standards during the remainder of the 1 year period will result in a recommendation for discipline.”

Mr. Weist complains that the City “refuses to provide Captain Weist an opportunity to appeal the PIP”  and that “it has never been the practice in the Department to impose PIPs.”  He argues that the PIP (performance improvement plan)  is subject to a meet and confer with the PFFA (Professional Fire Fighters Association).

Mr. Weist argues, “The actions of the City, in issuing Captain Weist a PIP threatening discipline and arbitrarily denying his vacation leave contrary to past practice, is a blatant retaliatory measure against Captain Weist for his union activity.  The City’s actions create an environment hostile to the union and its rights.”

PERB ultimately agreed that the PIP violated the MOU in that “there is no provision in the MOU that gives the City discretion to impose a new evaluation tool without bargaining with Local 3494. The MOU makes no provision for PIPs or even evaluations.”

At the same time, they rejected the notion that this was done in retaliation for Mr. Weist’s opposition to the city’s reforms of the fire department.

PERB ruled, “We find that the City has proven its affirmative defense that it would have issued the PIP for a legitimate, non-discriminatory reason even absent Weist’s protected activity. PERB has held that an employer proves its affirmative defense when it demonstrates that it has ‘both an alternative non-discriminatory reason for its challenged action, and that the challenged action would have occurred regardless of the employee’s protected activity.’”

They wrote, “The City has met its burden because of its legitimate and substantial concern that one of its fire chiefs who supervised a crew of six firefighters was significantly deficient in training hours as established by an objectively reasonable and generally applicable policy; was not timely completing logs and reports on station maintenance, incidents, and apparatus checkouts; and was not timely performing quarterly fire prevention inspections. The City has therefore met or exceeded Local 3494’s prima facie case with equally or more persuasive affirmative evidence demonstrating that it would have taken the same action despite Weist’s protected activity.”

In other words, PERB agreed with the city that there was both legitimate and substantial concern that Mr. Weist supervised a crew of six firefighters that was SIGNIFICANTLY DEFICIENT in training hours.

For all of the touting of the great service that the Davis firefighters provide to the community, I find this fact appalling and I still question how much Mr. Weist’s refusal to sufficiently train his crew has put citizens at risk.

In previous articles we noted just how much below the other units Mr. Weist was in training.

But, more pointedly, shouldn’t Mr. Weist be embarrassed by his conduct?  Basically he was angry that he had to do training, he tried to get out of it by filing for same-day vacation time and, when he was denied it, he pitched a fit and took sick leave to avoid doing training.

And when he didn’t get the results he wanted, he filed a complaint with PERB, who really twice denied him his main point.

Don’t the citizens of Davis deserve better than this display?  And now he’s suing on a charge of overtime – the irony was that, a few years ago, they complained they were getting too much overtime, and now they are making a capricious claim to working more than 40 hours a week without receiving overtime premiums?

What the heck?  The firefighters run on 24-hour shifts.  The only way they could avoid working more than 40 hours a week is by working less than two shifts a week.  These are not hourly employees.  It boggles the mind that they get overtime to begin with.

It is time for Mr. Weist to go.  Finally, I think the entire city hall understands that.  But unless they are willing to fire him, this drama will continue.

—David M Greenwald

About The Author

David Greenwald is the founder, editor, and executive director of the Davis Vanguard. He founded the Vanguard in 2006. David Greenwald moved to Davis in 1996 to attend Graduate School at UC Davis in Political Science. He lives in South Davis with his wife Cecilia Escamilla Greenwald and three children.

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  1. South of Davis

    David wrote:

    > Under his leadership, the firefighters gained four on an engine,

    > 3 percent at 50, and a huge 36 percent pay raise from 2005 to 2009,

    > that put the Davis firefighters near the very top in the region in

    > total compensation

    Today they still have 3% at 50 and the big pay raise that puts them at the top in the region in pay (making WAY more that Davis Cops and UCD Firefighters)

    > It is time for Mr. Weist to go. 

    Just like the police union protects bad cops the union will make sure Bobby does not “go” until he decides to retire with his six figure pension.

    P.S. I bet there are more people who pay the California sales tax on items they buy in Oregon and bring home than fire departments that “really” do 20 hours a month of “training”…

  2. Barack Palin

    If firefighters want overtime for anything over 40 hours/week maybe they should have to work 8 hour shifts five days a week with a 1/2 hr. unpaid lunch and no sleeping or cooking while on the clock.

    The city needs to start playing hardball.

    1. South of Davis

      BP wrote:

      > If firefighters want overtime for anything over 40 hours/week

      > maybe they should have to work 8 hour shifts

      It is amazing that my best friend a firefighter will make more working a single (24 hour) overtime shift than someone making minimum wage will earn in TWO (2) full MONTHS working full time (40 Hours a week).

      P.S. According to the transparent California site my friend made more in “overtime” on the most recent year reported than the median family income in America (Not many “Junior College” grads make that much)…

    2. ryankelly

      The rules are different for public safety employees.

      Here’s what the City of Davis Fire Department MOU states:

      For purpose of this provision, hours worked in excess of 204 in any 27-day duty cycle shall be considered overtime. For purposes of this provision, any hours during which the employee is paid leave time, holiday-in-lieu time, vacation time, sick leave time, jury leave time, military leave time, injury leave time, or any other approved leave time shall count as hours worked by the employee. This section does not affect management’s inherent right to direct the work of the employee and to control the number of hours worked.

      I really don’t understand the lawsuit.

  3. Michael Harrington

    Let’s see some articles concerning the bad process and hack job that became Nishi and Messure A?  You beat on Weist year after year but not the bunch whose rampant development dreams would destroy the small city we love ?

    1. The Pugilist

      Of course you ignore the fact that Weist is a prime reason that the city is pushing for development because the firefighters and other employee groups compensation has forced the city to find resources.  Then again, maybe you want to forget it because you voted for all of the increases and then the firefighters supported Sue Greenwald in order to take you down.

    2. ryankelly

      I think the Nishi ship has sailed.  The rest of the community is focused on what’s next.  The City is pretty evenly divided on Nishi, so I don’t think more articles, especially ones focused on “the bad process and hack job” would be constructive or welcomed.  If you want an article, Mike, then write one yourself – try to be coherent.

      1. Misanthrop

        Is he still out of compliance?

        I wonder if he is saving the city money by continuing to work instead of costing the city money paying for his medical in retirement and paying his replacement?

  4. hpierce

    On April 9, 2013…  (Y)ou have over 28 years of fire experience.

    With 3%@50, you max out your retirement formula @ 30 years (90% cap).  He can retire @ any time.

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