Katehi’s Team Pushes Back on Latest Allegations of First-Class Flights and Hotel Rooms

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Chancellor Linda Katehi in February
Chancellor Linda Katehi in February

The Sacramento Bee this week is reporting that, over the period from December 2010 to February 2016, UC Davis Chancellor Linda Katehi made 26 international trips costing the university more than $174,000.

According to the Bee, “It is unclear whether her travel paid off for the university.”

The article states, “Records show that the chancellor spared little expense when traveling for UC Davis. When flying, she often accumulated thousands of dollars of charges to move up to first class, add legroom or purchase onboard internet access. She frequently rebooked flights for her convenience.”

“You can fly first class if you have a compelling work reason,” Dianne Klein, University of California spokeswoman told the Bee. “You have to have a legitimate reason.”

Linda Katehi’s spokesperson Larry Kamer noted that the UC report on the Katehi investigation was supposed to be released on Monday, however, it has been delayed for an unspecified reason.

Mr. Kamer believes there is a coordinated effort between the UC press office and the Sacramento Bee that is “designed to smear and embarrass Chancellor Katehi.”  He said the effort “is getting ridiculous.”

Mr. Kamer asserts, “The University of California has routinely audited Chancellor Katehi’s travel every year and found no irregularities.” He added, “Likewise, the Chancellor’s husband (who is also a tenured faculty member at UC Davis) has also had his travel audited annually without issue or incident.”

One clear problem with the Bee article is that the Bee has no way of knowing whether the trips were cost-effective.  They acknowledge this in their statement, as noted above, “It is unclear whether her travel paid off for the university. UC Davis spokeswoman Dana Topousis said there is no reliable way to track the donations generated from these trips.”

Therefore, what if the chancellor cost the university $174,000 but obtained millions in donations for her efforts?

As Larry Kamer notes, “Much of the Chancellor’s travel has been in support of fundraising for UC Davis, where she has raised more money than ANY other Chancellor.  From July 1, 2015 to June 30, 2016, UCD raised $226,176,992—the greatest dollar-amount in UC Davis fundraising history—from 34,318 donors. “

He continues, “These funds—now more than $1 billion raised under Chancellor Katehi’s leadership—directly benefit student scholarships, faculty compensation, and expansion of  programs that keep UCD in the top tier of the nation’s universities for STEM education, diversity of faculty, and enrollment of in-state students.”

It was only six days ago that UC Davis put out a release that they had their best fundraising year in history.

Another problem is that the Bee fails to put this spending into perspective.  Larry Kamer noted, “Chancellor Katehi’s travel expenses are lower than most of her peers at other UC campuses.”   But, while the Sacramento Bee quotes Tax Advocate Jon Coupal as saying, “That is pretty embarrassing,” the Bee makes no effort to determine if the spending is unusual for UC chancellors.

The Bee article, on the contrary, argued, “Katehi upgraded her seats to first class at least 25 times in the five years covered by the records, although Delta Airlines bumped her up for free on several occasions. It’s unclear how much the upgrades cost the university as the travel expenses often just reported the total cost of each ticket.”

The Bee continued, “Travel records show that Katehi justified her flight upgrades because either the itinerary involved overnight travel or she needed room to prepare for a presentation or to conduct university business.”

The UC travel policy says that “transportation expenses should be reimbursed based on the most economical mode of transportation.”

The question is whether any of this is objectively unreasonable.  In one case that the Bee cites, “On one return trip from Vienna in March 2011, Katehi spent $224.80 to rebook a flight to avoid a leg that would have gone through Paris’ Charles de Gaulle Airport, where there had been delays.”

Is that an unreasonable consideration?  $200 is not going to substantially impact $174,000 in travel costs on 26 trips.

The Bee adds, “In June 2011, Katehi and her husband each charged $407 to their university credit cards to change flights on a trip back to Sacramento from Switzerland because a meeting was canceled and they wanted to return early to deal with university issues.”

Finally, Mr. Kamer notes that these were university trips and “her personal trips, or portions of trips that are personal, have always been paid from personal funds.”  He added, “That is a matter of public record.”

Attorney Melinda Guzman told the Vanguard, “The investigators spent very little time on the chancellor’s travel expenses during the interview likely because the expenses are so very well documented and they were audited annually without incident.”

She would add, “In addition, the investigators asked no questions whatsoever about the alleged misuse of student fee income—presumably because no evidence exists at all to support that allegation against the chancellor, yet that issue was used as the basis for the whistleblower investigation on 4/27.”

—David M. Greenwald reporting

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121 thoughts on “Katehi’s Team Pushes Back on Latest Allegations of First-Class Flights and Hotel Rooms”

  1. Barack Palin

    The witch hunt continues.  The Bee and anyone else who condones this sort of stake burning should be ashamed of themselves.  26 international trips costing $174000 comes to $6692 per trip.  That doesn’t sound rediculous at all especially if it includes food, ground transportation and boarding.  UCD set fundraising records for this last year so I’m sure the trips were very lucrative.

    1. Tia Will

      Marina

      I do not feel that I have ever “bashed” the Chancellor. I have criticized individual actions. I have pointed out the things that in my opinion she has done well and those that I do not believe that she has done well. When David, clearly a strong supporter of the Chancellor, has stated that he believes that she has made mistakes but that his belief that her contributions have outweighed those, you do not criticize him for not being a Chancellor worshipper who could never admit that she has made an error even though she has said so herself. Where David and I differ is that I do not believe that her positive contributions outweigh her detriments. I do not “hate” the Chancellor. I actually have no emotional feelings about her one way or the other. I feel that both she and the university would have been far better off had she chosen to resign when she still could have done so with grace and dignity.

  2. ryankelly

    It should be a simple task to report donations resulting from Katehi’s direct contact.  It is her husband’s travel that bothers me more.  How did this travel affect his teaching and research?  Do other spouses regularly travel on the University’s dime? Would that double or increase the cost of the trips to an average of $10-12K?

    1. Marina Kalugin

      ryankelly, if you have to even ask, edit….why does it bother you?  her husband is a high level scientist in his own right…he is one of the topmost “lecturers with security of employment” on campus….if that is the case, and it IS, then why do you then state he is traveling when he is not worthy….edit

       

      [moderator]Edited. Please refrain from direct attacks on other Vanguard participants.

      1. ryankelly

        Marina, As usual, your responses are so unpleasant, but I will answer you.  He is appointed as a professor in a department – likely a percentage teaching and a percentage research.  This doesn’t include traveling with his wife on her fundraising jaunts.  When and what does he teach?  What research has he accomplished – real research, not just adding his name as an editor to another’s work or appearing at conferences on the arm of his wife.  How many graduate students does he have working under him?   Is the university getting its money’s worth with him or was he just baggage that came with hiring his wife?  Being smart and well educated has little value if the person does nothing.

        1. Marina Kalugin

          jeez, ryankelly,

          edit  obviously, you have an agenda against the Chancellor and her truly brilliant husband…

          edit

          [moderator] You all need to stop insulting each other.

  3. Tia Will

    BP

    I completely disagree. My partner travels frequently for the state. On occasion, I have made these trips with him. I pay my on way on these trips. On the occasions when we have chosen to upgrade ( for more room to sleep or work or because he wants to get back earlier to “get back to work”) we have paid for our own upgrades. I would anticipate that as part of a leadership position, fiscal responsibility would be a major priority of a Chancellor.

    It does not matter one bit to me whether her travel audits have been unremarkable, or whether other Chancellor’s have done the same, or whether the money generated has exceeded the money spent. This is a leadership position and fiscal responsibility should start in the office of the Chancellor rather than having her high position be used as a means to provide her and her husband with greater comfort that they are fully capable of providing for themselves.

    Are any of these actions illegal or immoral ?  Of course not. But they are also not worthy of the leader of a public university.

    1. Matt Williams

      Tia, paying attention to fiscal responsibility is like paying attention to an Income Statement.  You have to keep your eye on all three of the major components … revenues, expenses, and bottom-line.

      An over abundance of focus on one of those three components with a resultant reduction of focus on the other two components is not practicing efficient and effective fiscal responsibility.

      1. Tia Will

        Matt

        While I agree with the central point of your post, I am not sure of its intended applicability to this topic. Do you believe that someone here has lost focus ?  If so, who ? The Chancellor ? Me, in my comments ?  Just unclear. Can you clarify ?

        1. Matt Williams

          I wouldn’t go so far as to say “lost focus” but your comment appeared to indicate that awareness of and control of costs was 90% (my number) of fiscal responsibility.

          If I were assigning percentages myself, I would say that awareness of and control of costs is 25% of fiscal responsibility, awareness of and control of fiscal inputs is 25% of fiscal responsibility,and awareness of and control of the bottom-line is 50% of fiscal responsibility . . . with all numbers being approximations.

        2. Marina Kalugin

          jeez, Tia, if you even have to ask who he is talking about, truly????? really??????

          if one says something directly to you, cannot you even figure that out????

          the moderators, who allow your continuous barrage against those who try to point out that your ways are harmful, and yet have to “be careful” as they will be moderated….. and their posts “edited” ….while you spew such nonsense and garbage regularly…

          jeez, let’s all speak in a chorus now…..Tia, it is YOU who shows little focus on this topic… and ryankelly and so many others….

          okay, now watch this post get edited away……jeez….

           

  4. DavidSmith

    The Bee couldn’t find any better way to spin the story. Pathetic.

    But what’s more pathetic is that there are actually people who would buy it.

    1. Barack Palin

      DavidSmith, there are people who have been after Katehi since the pepper spray incident and any mud that they can possibly make stick they’re going to go for.  Make no mistake about it, this is all about the pepper spray because they couldn’t get her then.

  5. Tia Will

    David

    The Bee couldn’t find any better way to spin the story”

    I do not care about the source or the spin. Are you contending that the reporting is not factual ? If factual, see my objections above based on personal experience with state funded travel expenses.

    Surely if lower level employees of public institutions are expected to be respectful of expenditures of public monies for their own personal benefit, how much more so should that prudence be exerted by those at the highest level who are being looked to as examples of best practices ?

    1. Miwok

      Tia, The travel expenses are constantly being fudged because the Travel Department “allows” expenses, per diem, etc. Lots of UCD uses the State schedule, which is public to the hotels and restaurants. They charge extra, which means “someone has to pay the difference”. Now ,regular employees will be billed and some department managers rewrite the expense reports for reimbursements so it all evens out, eben if receipts do not support the numbers.

      Ask me if you need more facts.

      1. Tia Will

        Miwok

        What you have posted sounds like the basis of an article. I would encourage you to write it. But if you choose not to, I would appreciate if you would send your information to David and he can forward it to me. Alternatively you could ask him for my personal email account which he can give to you. I thought about posting it here, but the last time I did that I was paid back by getting to electronically hear how immoral I am, so I would prefer not to go through that again.

  6. DavidSmith

    Are you contending that the reporting is not factual?

    No, I didn’t say there is anything non-factual about the expenses. The Bee’s effort is pathetic because the travel expenses, as they themselves acknowledged, have all been reviewed and approved by UCOP. If the travel expenses are abnormal, which is not in my opinion, why didn’t they question UCOP’s stance at all? In her role as a Chancellor, Katehi is an employee to UCOP. She played by the rules of UCOP.

    The same question could be asked for the occupy movement students. Why don’t they go and occupy the Capitol because it’s after all the legislators who refuse to fund UC at a sufficient level to maintain low tuition? One could say the students are immature and naive. But are the editors at the Bee also immature and naive? I think not.

    1. Tia Will

      David

      The Bee’s effort is pathetic because the travel expenses, as they themselves acknowledged, have all been reviewed and approved by UCOP. “

      So does this mean that you feel hat the UCOP should be the ethical and fiscal monitor for all of the upper level activities of the university leadership. If the UCOP does not disapprove of a particular activity, does that in and of itself mean that this activity is fine ?  Is not a part of leadership working for the improvement of systems that are in place when one arrives ? Is not challenging the status quo when it is either inappropriate or wasteful a legitimate role for the head of a university ?

      1. DavidSmith

        So does this mean that you feel hat the UCOP should be the ethical and fiscal monitor for all of the upper level activities of the university leadership.

        Yes I do. That’s why they have regulations.

        If the UCOP does not disapprove of a particular activity, does that in and of itself mean that this activity is fine ?

        No. If you think UCOP’s policy allows unethical activities, then you should criticize UCOP, not the ones that followed UCOP’s policies. Procedural justice that is.

         Is not a part of leadership working for the improvement of systems that are in place when one arrives ? Is not challenging the status quo when it is either inappropriate or wasteful a legitimate role for the head of a university ?

        Yes. But UCD Chancellor is not hired to challenge the UCOP’s policy. As an employee to UCOP, the Chancellor could be fired at will and it’s certainly not her responsibility to change UCOP’s policy. Everyone serves a role in this huge organization. If you think UCOP’s status quo is unsatisfactory, then you should criticize/urge the Regents and State legislators to change it. Katehi was hired to make UCD, rather than UCOP, better. Please don’t be as naive as the occupy students.

        1. Tia Will

          David

          No. If you think UCOP’s policy allows unethical activities, then you should criticize UCOP, not the ones that followed UCOP’s policies. Procedural justice that is.”

          First, thank you for taking the time to answer thoughtfully. It is here that we have a critical difference of opinion. I believe in both individual and group responsibility. As an individual, each of us has the obligation to act ethically. This is true whether or not our colleagues or those above us in an organization, are acting ethically. It is true whether or not the organization as a whole is organized around ethical principles. As an individual in a high leadership position, this is even more critical.

          I know that the Chancellor is hired to make UCD, and not specifically the UCOP better. But that certainly does not preclude her from seeing problems and attempting to address them. I was hired to take care of patients, not as a monitor of pharmaceutical representative activities, and yet in the ’90’s, when I saw what I perceived as unethical in office advertising, I did not just say “That’s not in my job description”and let it slide and continue to benefit from their “generosity” of gifts and meals, but was instrumental in having them removed permanently from our medical office building.  I do not believe that it is “naive” to call out and lead to change policies that are not compatible with one’s mission whether that is stopping drug company perks to doctors or traveling in luxury, not at your own expense but rather that of the university and/or state.

        2. DavidSmith

          I know that the Chancellor is hired to make UCD, and not specifically the UCOP better. But that certainly does not preclude her from seeing problems and attempting to address them. 

          I’m not even sure what problems you are talking about. As many pointed out, the travel expenses seem normal. The real problem I see here is that you somehow manage to seize whatever you can find and whatever the BEE feeds you to criticize the Chancellor. The length that you are willing to go to discredit her is mind boggling.

        3. DavidSmith

          I made a number of missteps in my ten years as a mid level administrator. Despite my immediate supervisor’s opinion that my positive contributions to the group outweighed my mistakes and their consequences and her repeated support for me to continue in my position, I clearly laid out my reasons for believing that I had become a suboptimal choice to continue in my leadership position and I ultimately turned the position over to someone I thought would be better in the job. Does that mean that I hated myself ? 

          I don’t see your point here. Whatever you did was your choice. Without telling us details of your missteps or achievements, I fail to see how it could be related Chancellor Katehi. The circumstances seem completely different.

          Does clearly spelling out perceived shortcomings as well as accomplishments equal hatred ? 

          If that was the case, we’d have no problem. Does the Chancellor have a perfect record? Absolutely not. Could she handle the pepper spray situation in a much better way? Definitely yes. It is your nitpicking her to a level of absurdity that bothers me.

          I can’t remember all the issues that you have used to criticize her. But here are a few examples.

          You criticize her of privatizing the university when it’s really the State politicians that are not willing to provide enough funding to the university. When I pointed out that there were limited measures to make up for the budget gap, you criticize her of not being able to think of new ways to fund the university. And the solution your provided was to vote for Sanders so that we could have free education as in free lunch?

          Then you criticized her of not sharing her wealth with the students because she’s making so much money.

          Then you criticized her of not paying for business trips out of her own pocket.

          And now you are saying that it’s her fault that UCOP’s policies are unethical.

          The level of absurdity is surreal. If you don’t think this is hate, the only other explanation for this surrealism I can see is stupidity.

           

  7. Michael Harrington

    I travel constantly in business.  Of course Katehi made money for UCD on these trips. Upgrade to gain work space is acceptable and profitable for UCD.   Glad UCD looking into and monitoring travel.  Should have required trip reports.  But hey , shouldn’t she have required for herself and all colleagues ?  Sloppy management.

    1. DavidSmith

      But hey , shouldn’t she have required for herself and all colleagues ?  Sloppy management.

      I also travel a lot. I always find cheap tickets on Priceline and I seldom upgrade to business. An important reason for that is that my time is flexible. I can come in one day earlier and make sure that I have enough rest and stay fresh when I meet the “client”. The Chancellor may not have such luxury as her schedule is extremely packed.

      1. Marina Kalugin

        yes, some faculty are not nearly as busy as others…

        thank you for being honest, Dr. DavidSmith….

        typically those who are not as busy, spend lots of time on administrative committees like CAP where they take potshots at the most outstanding…for stupid reasons…that is a truly UCD mentality…

        one doesn’t find that at Berkeley nor Harvard, where they all walk on water, or else they wouldn’t even be working there….  LOL….

        I find your insights much more illuminating and well thought out…thank you, Dr. Smith…

      2. Tia Will

        DavidSmith

        The Chancellor may not have such luxury as her schedule is extremely packed.”
        I completely agree. And if it is the case that the Chancellor feels that she needs first class for a better rest period, she is certainly well compensated enough already to pay for that upgrade for herself. On less than 1/2 of her base compensation, I am able to afford my own upgrades. I really do not see how it would be impossible for her to do the same.

        1. DavidSmith

          And if it is the case that the Chancellor feels that she needs first class for a better rest period, she is certainly well compensated enough already to pay for that upgrade for herself. 

          I don’t see your point. If the Chancellor is on business travel, why does she need to pay for the cost using her personal money? If the schedule of the Chancellor doesn’t allow her to have  good rest, why shouldn’t the university pay for the upgrade? Do you upgrade your business travel with your own money?

        2. Marina Kalugin

          truly,  Ms W, you think you are of comparable magnitude to who the Chancellor is and/or have a fraction of what she does on your plate?  really?  now that is truly an illuminating response….and speaks volumes on its own…so need for further comments from me….I do want to make sure that others see how you compare yourself and what you do to the Chancellor….ha ha..

           

  8. Marina Kalugin

    jeez, MH,   trip reports are required and required and every dime has to be justified…only when the UC didn’t pay a single dime toward a travel is no report required….one still has to get approval to travel and so on, due to “time away” unless it is on “own time”…like vacation time, et al..

    but people of the Chancellor’s caliber work 24/7 …and rarely have a full day of vacation EVER nor even a day off on a single weekend….

    PS> MH, since you are “self-employed” the fed government subsides every bit of “travel” you do for your “business”…..and …it would be truly interesting to me and others, just how much you spent on your travel last year, and how much the fed government subsidized…..jeez….

  9. Barack Palin

    So let’s count how many issues(?) the witch hunters have now gone after:

    moonlighting…..

    relatives also employed at UCD….

    staff members trip to Switzerland….

    Internet scrubbing…..

    Katehi’s international travel costs…..

    Please feel free to add any mud slinging that I may have missed.

    It’s starting to reek of desperation.

     

     

     

    1. Tia Will

      BP

      To me, it “reeks” of a poor fit between the Chancellor’s seeming philosophy of make as much money and enjoy as much luxury as you can and the mission of a public university.

        1. Tia Will

          Jerry

          I do speak from my reality, just as I am sure that you speak from yours. I do not believe that the Chancellor of a major university should be granted any more ethical exemption because of her lofty position than should a leader of a community college. Perhaps you feel differently.

        2. Barack Palin

          although Delta Airlines bumped her up for free on several occasions. It’s unclear how much the upgrades cost the university as the travel expenses often just reported the total cost of each ticket.”

          So she was upgraded for free on several occasions.  I’m sure she had tons of miles built up so she could also use her miles to upgrade which wouldn’t cost UCD anything.  How many other other chacellors upgraded on the UC dime?  She flew home early once which cost UCD $407 because a meeting cancelled.  Is that unreasonable?  She changed a ticket to avoid delays in Paris that cost UCD $224.  Is that unreasonable?  She upgraded on occasion in order to have room to work.  Is that unreasonable?  Have you ever tried to do anything work related in coach, that’s not easy on a 12 hour flight.

        3. Matt Williams

          I tend to agree with BP.  I am personally a Million Miler on both Delta and American.  When I was traveling back in the day, my seat regularly upgraded by the airline to First Class without changing the Economy/Coach fare of the ticket.  I probably flew in a Coach seat no more than 25% of the time.

      1. DavidSmith

        and enjoy as much luxury as you can

        I don’t see where the luxury comes from. As I grow older, traveling has become increasingly annoying and tiresome. I consider it the second worst aspect of my job (after writing grant proposals). I believe many share the same opinion. I don’t see at all how going on business travel, even flying in first class, can be a luxury. Keep in mind that our Chancellor is a woman in her sixties, not twenties.

        1. Marina Kalugin

          for those who are old and tired like me and still travel a bunch for business and pleasure, I recommend Virgin for the best mileage program ever….and they fly to most of our favorite vacation places…and many of the most popular business destinations also….UC now has an agreement on the mytravel site….

          I know this is off topic, but hey….gotta share this useful info…for those who don’t have as many miles nor time to build up miles….

  10. PhillipColeman

    There is an axiom in the leadership level of Public Service. If (when) somebody chooses to come after you, the first two things they will look at is your employer provided cell phone records, and your travel expense records. It’s not cynical or fatalistic, it’s reality. The point made here is that ANY expenses you claim as a public servant that COULD benefit your personal comfort and convenience HAS to be scrupulously documented to withstand scrutiny from your most bitter enemy.

    Costs/Benefits are logical points to consider here in examining Katehi’s lavish travel life-style at taxpayer expense. But we can’t. No account was created to show the effects of the Chancellor hustling donors on the public dime and presumably getting a far better return on the public investment. The claim is that it happened, but no process exists to show this or how much.

    When you are under siege by whomever, you can’t just say it, you have to prove it. Any administrator that does not realize this is automatically qualified as being stupid with a dash of arrogance.

    Returning to Paragraph One, where is the self-protection here? Katehi can’t claim a “I’m being picked on” role when no bookkeeping effort was even considered by anybody in the University system to guard her flanks. Therefore, Katehi deserves every criticism she is getting, based on a fundamental act of administrative negligence or omission.

    Giving every benefit of a doubt to the Chancellor on the expenditures cited by the Bee, some of them still remain very suspicious. “Making a good impression” to a potential donor may include hosting in a classy restaurant, arriving in a limo, and picking up the donor’s tab for a $500 meal. But why does Katehi have to travel first-class and live first-class when no donors could possibly see her flying coach and staying at the Motel 6? And why do subordinate travel companions automatically have the same first-class level of travel, accommodations, and dining simply because they are in the company of the boss? Probably the answer would be they needed to be in constant dialog with doing essential UCD-related issues from 7,000 miles away. Could the subordinates stayed home, filling in for the missing Chancellor, and they could have used Skype to stay connected for free?

    We all know how much it costs to reschedule a flight at the last minute. Katehi doing this for her personal travel convenience should be a personal expense charged to her credit card. I suppose Katehi defenders could say she was needed to promptly return to her primary duty as Chancellor. Yet invites the question if she’s so essential to the everyday operation of the University, why is she traveling so much?

    In a larger view, Katehi has been asked by the President and Regents to do the impossible. She was indisputably hired primarily to be a rainmaker and she has been portrayed as being very successful. That was and remains her greatest virtue.

    But Katehi is also charged with administering a very large and complex organization called UC Davis. One conflicts with the other in time availability alone. You can’t fly all over the world,  and also be away participating in well-paid advisory boards, while at the same time administer a large university that deserves your predictable physical presence and  focused effort and devotion.

    1. DavidSmith

      PhillipColeman

      But Katehi is also charged with administering a very large and complex organization called UC Davis. One conflicts with the other in time availability alone. You can’t fly all over the world,  and also be away participating in well-paid advisory boards, while at the same time administer a large university that deserves your predictable physical presence and  focused effort and devotion.

      You presented logical arguments. However, the above shows that you probably don’t understand very well the role of the Chancellor, which is to promote UC Davis. The promotion is done by funding raising, establishing focused research and education centers, improve the ranking of UC Davis, the serving on national and international committee to raise awareness, bring exposure, and influence policies, etc. All of these involve a lot of face to face interactions with various parties that no technologies (Skype) could replace.

      She is of course expected to ultimately decide on campus matter but day to day management is better handled by the vice Chancellors.

      Chancellors and presidents travel a lot. Last minute changes happen often. As even an “ordinary” faculty member, I change my travel plan a lot, often times at the last minute. Travel plans are usually made well in advance but many emergency situations could happened. I have changed/cancelled flights because, 1) there was a  proposal due on the same day of the flight that I struggled to finish only the last minute ; 2) my lab was flooded the day before and I had to stay to make sure equipment and supplies are “rescued” properly; 3) a student demanded that I gave her a make-up exam on the day of the travel or else she would fail to graduate, … Things change faster than you can plan for

      1. DavidSmith

        As its usual tactic, the Bee brings up these issues (BP had a nice summary above) to appeal to the hatred of the general public who don’t understand very well the nature and dynamics of higher education academics and administrators.

      2. Tia Will

        DavidSmith

        All of what you wrote in your post of 9:14 is doubtless true. It is also true that nothing that you said would preclude the Chancellor paying for her upgrades and changes herself, just as most of us have to do.

        1. DavidSmith

          All of what you wrote in your post of 9:14 is doubtless true. It is also true that nothing that you said would preclude the Chancellor paying for her upgrades and changes herself, just as most of us have to do.

          Don’t take me wrong. All the travel and change of flights I mentioned in my post above were charged to the University. They are business travels and the changes happen because of business reasons. I won’t be able to explain to my wife why I have to pay for them on my own money.

          I find that you have some very bizarre viewpoints that I fail to comprehend. In the past, you criticize the Chancellor for not “sharing wealth” with the students  because she earns so much. Now you criticize her for not paying for business travel, again because she earns so much. I can’t understand why you have such a worldview. It just reminds me of some of the communist novels I read in the past.

          I believe that you must be doing quite well financially than the national average. Why don’t you share your wealth with the poor? Why don’t you pay for your business travel out of your own pocket? Why do you take all the benefits your employer provides you?

           

    2. Tia Will

      PhillipColeman

      Any administrator that does not realize this is automatically qualified as being stupid with a dash of arrogance.”

      Or, to be a little less harsh, perhaps naive or preoccupied or careless.

      You can’t fly all over the world,  and also be away participating in well-paid advisory boards, while at the same time administer a large university that deserves your predictable physical presence and  focused effort and devotion.”

      I happen to agree with you. I am sure that there are others who post here who will claim that Chancellor Katehi did exactly that. I am reminded of the Turkish saying “Look at the result”.

       

      1. DavidSmith

        I am reminded of the Turkish saying “Look at the result”.

        The result is that under her leadership, UCD has raised hundreds of millions of dollars, increased enrollment of in-state students, improved our national ranking, and attracted many many talented young faculty members who are doing great work across a broad range of discipline. This is indisputable regardless of how much hate you have for her.

  11. Davis Progressive

    $6600 and change for a trip overseas is relatively on the cheap.  i easily spend twice that on most of my trips.  the article breaks down the expenditures and faults them for coming back more quickly because they had work to do?  how unreasonable.

    something not mentioned here is that spyro acted as a de facto aid to katehi, so his attendance with her wasn’t all that surprising.

  12. Mike Hart

    What’s left of the Sac Bee has hit yet another low in their jihaad against Chancellor Katehi. Seriously? $6800 per international trip over a SEVEN year period is front page news?! From the CEO of an organization that was raising a quarter billion a year in donor funding; a billion a year in research funding and is the center of economic activity for our whole region?!? This follows a series of pathetic hack journalistic “revelations” detailing essentially nothing over the pst few months. I am sure Scoopy has the big fonts and headlines reserved for when they manage to get their hands on her 2012 parking ticket… No wonder McClatchy is worth less than 10% of what they were 10 years ago. What happened to the Bee?

    And lets be clear here- we are talking about a Chancellor who is successful. She has brought in billions to the greater Sacramento community. Patrick J. Talamantes on the other hand, the CEO of the SacBee brought in $1,568,234 in total compensation during the last reported period for running his newspapers into the ground and laying off legions of actual reporters and editors.

     

  13. Jerry Waszczuk

    The  investigation and Katehi’s investigatory leave is not about Katehi’s expenses or her alleged missteps . The Haag’s  and others lawyers expenses  for  this witch hunt already exceeded the  amount Katehi spent for traveling . The  Lambert Bee’s article is written with enormous bias with out showing for comparison other UC cronies travel expenses . for comparison . The Bee Quin Lambert just does  dirty job for Napolitano and for  the  regents  and for Bee to make money. The Bee article is nothing to do with objective journalism .

    Haag already should issue the  report from the witch hunt. Napolitano and regants don’t care about Katehi’s travel and other expenses . They care how much information Haag can extract from Katehi to prepare UC for lawsuit or for the  millions of dollars settlement which is coming . Mitigation of damages.  Katehi’s expenses and other alleged Katehi’s wrongdoing are irrelevant at this point .  The Bee article is just food for  the  mobs and other immigrants  haters to give them something to hate and hang.

  14. Miwok

    “These funds—now more than $1 billion raised under Chancellor Katehi’s leadership

    I worked in that Department in 2010. The $bil was EVERY donation they could find and track for the last fifteen years or more, at that time. They tried to go back further, but had not many records in the Pre-mainframe days, and I worked on the system in 1986 that was started for Development. Individual Departments had other records I tried to find to integrate to the database. “other Departments” did not want to give up “their” information.

    It was only six days ago that UC Davis put out a release that they had their best fundraising year in history.

    Another Press release.. how nice, just like the one they used to claim Katehi “presided” over the $Billion Campaign.

    1. Miwok

      This post is probably off topic, but leads to the facts Mr Kramer puts out as “fact” when it is fluff. They hire new people there, and they read the old Press releases which are then quoted as Fact. Not reality, but Fact.

    2. DavidSmith

      I worked in that Department in 2010. The $bil was EVERY donation they could find and track for the last fifteen years or more, at that time. They tried to go back further, but had not many records in the Pre-mainframe days, and I worked on the system in 1986 that was started for Development. Individual Departments had other records I tried to find to integrate to the database. “other Departments” did not want to give up “their” information.

      Since you worked in that department, you may be able to fill us in on how much endowment UCD actually attracted under Katehi’s leadership. Can you give us some numbers?

  15. Marina Kalugin

    jeez, Miwok, do you still work for the fundraising unit?  if not, why not?

    I know that after my staff and I and faculty worked our asses off to get grants from the ACS and so on, and then those would show up on the “UCD donations” list?????huh????

    Of course, our department was truly unusual, for a tiny department  (down to only 14 at one time recently)…after 8 years of not being allowed to recruit faculty…

    that the likes of Burtis and others tried to kill off,

    and yet, our 2 NAS, the ONLY Sr.  HHMI investigator ( and prior to that the only junior career HHMI awardee)  on campus and the Cancer Center Acting/Associate Director and Cancer Center T32 training grant director…who was multi hatted as our department chair…..

    managed to get those awards

    despite some of the actions of the good ole’ boys over many a decade….

    of course, Dr. Coleman was one of the good ole’ boys and some of his pet projects lost wind at the changing of the guard….

  16. Tia Will

    the hatred of the general public who don’t understand very well the nature and dynamics of higher education academics and administrators.”

    The Bee article is just food for  the  mobs and other immigrants  haters to give them something to hate and hang.”

    I am confused. Where exactly is this “hatred” and where are these “mobs and other immigrant haters” of which you speak. I do not see any “hatred” leveled against the Chancellor at all. I do see some over zealous and perhaps biased reporting on the part of the Sac Bee ( although David has stated that he was not arguing the veracity of the most recent reporting), but hardly “hatred”. So please, any of you who believe that the Chancellor has been subjected to any ethnic or gender based “hatred” rather than simply a difference of opinion with regard to whether or not she has performed adequately as the head of a public university, please state your facts in support of that position. Otherwise, can we simply stick to the facts of the matter instead of trotting out “hatred” as a knee jerk word to elicit sympathy.

    1. Jerry Waszczuk

      Tia

      This the orchestrated mob attack against Chancellor . This article is singling her out for no any  reason whatsoever to fuel the mob and to continue the attacks over and over and over . It is disgusting .

      Throw the Greek down the well and your country will be free .

      1. Tia Will

        Do you own a mirror?”

        And what exactly do you think that comment added to the conversation. I do not hate the Chancellor. I have stated on a number of occasions how I admire much of her professional career while at the same time feeling that she was not well suited to serve as Chancellor of a public institution. Where in these comments do you see “hate” ?

        1. Marina Kalugin

          Tia, have you read any of the posts you continue to share on this and other Chancellor threads?

          as an MD, perhaps you should consider taking a hard look at why you continue to spew such hatred against her, and how come you cannot even admit it??

          how is it that you think that your behavior and your actions daily and sometimes hourly, which are designed to take down the credibility of the Chancellor are not noticed by your other doctor colleagues??????

    2. DavidSmith

      “the hatred of the general public who don’t understand very well the nature and dynamics of higher education academics and administrators.”
      “The Bee article is just food for  the  mobs and other immigrants  haters to give them something to hate and hang.”
      I am confused. Where exactly is this “hatred” and where are these “mobs and other immigrant haters” of which you speak.

      I’m sorry? Where is the hate? Go no further than reading your own posts. And you don’t see any hatred in the Bee’s comments section? Do you want me to provide some excerpts here?

  17. Tia Will

    Jerry

     fuel the mob”

    I ask again, what mob ?

    As for this being about her nationality, I think not. I am not one of the Chancellor’s supporters in this particular role. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with nationality of origin, or gender, or age or any other factor that Chancellor Katehi has no way of changing. My comments, and my criticisms, as well as my praise for her academic and research accomplishments have all been about those factors of her performance over which she has direct control.

    And in direct réponse to your question about “why single her out”. For the simple reason that she happens to be the Chancellor of my alma mater. UCD is the school that provided the format for my current success and she happens to be the leader of this particular institution. If other Chancellors are behaving in what I see as the same inappropriate manner, then I hope that they will get called out on it as well.

    1. Jerry Waszczuk

      Tia

      Lets wait and see if it will go to court or it will be settle for millions of dollars .  At this point you and others  fueled  by the  stupid   SacBee  article are just  increasing the value of the future settlement or jury award by attacking  endlessly Chancellor Katehi . This how it is works.

  18. Tia Will

    Have you ever tried to do anything work related in coach, that’s not easy on a 12 hour flight.”

    That is where I do anything that I am going to do including studying, working and reading for my yearly boards. It is really not all that onerous. And as I already said, both the Chancellor and I can fully afford the upgrades if we want them. So, my answer to your question, is yes, I do consider it unreasonable if she is not using accumulated hours in which case I would have no problem.

    1. DavidSmith

      Why is it not reasonable that she could use more space to work more efficiently for the university? Why is it not reasonable that she could rest better so that she could do the next day’s work more efficiently?

      I’m speechless. I really think you would live a happier life in a communist country…

      1. Tia Will

        Why is it not reasonable that she could use more space to work more efficiently for the university? Why is it not reasonable that she could rest better so that she could do the next day’s work more efficiently?”

        These things are entirely reasonable. And it would be entirely reasonable for her to pay for the upgrade herself just as my partner and I do when traveling for the state on state business.

         

        1. DavidSmith

           These things are entirely reasonable. And it would be entirely reasonable for her to pay for the upgrade herself

          If these things are entirely reasonable, then why can’t the University pay for them? Is it not reasonable for the University to pay for something that will benefit the university? Why is she then being criticized for something that is “entirely reasonable”? I’m lost here Tia.

  19. Tia Will

    Jerry

    just  increasing the value of the future settlement or jury award by attacking  endlessly Chancellor Katehi . This how it is works.”


    If something as lacking in any substantive power as me commenting on the Vanguard increases the value of any future settlement, then we are dealing with a truly corrupt system which none of us should be celebrating regardless of our feelings about Chancellor Katehi.

     

    1. Jerry Waszczuk

      Tia

      We are  dealing with the corrupt system big time and you can’t do much about . Let’s wait for Haag’s report than talk about . It should be already done and Kathie should be gone .  You no need more than 3 months to find out that she violated UC policies . Must be something bigger .

        1. Jerry Waszczuk

          hpierce

          Is nothing to conspire about . Is something bigger must be  more time consuming or just lawyers  likes their clients and  they are milking them .  Pepper spray investigation took only three months where lot of people were involved .  Katehi should be done already.

    2. Jerry Waszczuk

      Tia

      You are  the most active  “Throw the Greek down the well ”  participant  who is  non stop  defaming and defacing Chancellor  for unknown  to me  reason .  Outrageous  and despicable

       

    1. Marina Kalugin

      Haag’s report is “overdue” and why is that allowed?

      the Chancellor should return asap…as since her leave is over, she is now rightfully due to return…

      I am waiting….Linda …please seize the moment……thank you….

      1. Barack Palin

        If as you say her leave time is over and Napolitano hasn’t yet produced any report you make a good point.  Her 90 day leave ended @ July 27 and unless the Regents have extended it she should return.  Go for it Katehi.

        1. Jerry Waszczuk

          Regents  can extend  Chancellor’s  leave  for another year if they decide to  endlessly harass her and try to make her quit on her own instead to fire her with out the legitimate cause .  Other reason could be that UCOP lawyers  did not get any information from Chancellor they anticipated to extract from Chancellor during the interviews and they will try again by extending the investigatory leave .

          I spent over 12 months on investigatory leave because UCOP wanted to find out if I know about  regent’s  illegal power sale contracts .   I cared less about their power sale contract .   I was molested for over one year in regents attempts to extract information from me I did not have .  If anybody is familiar with  UCD Associate Vice Chancellor Mike Allred -Finance Controller  than it is appears that he is the guy who is directly responsible  for framing Chancellor together  with his subordinate  Associate Director Deborah  Fraga -Decker who signed contract with Nevines &  Association .(Katehi’s  case ) The signed by Fraga -Decker   illegal power sale contract with SMUD in May 2012 almost got me killed  . Fraga -Decker  disappeared  from  the UC Davis landscape in April 2015 and she  was transferred  to state agency where she last few months and she is gone .  http://afs.ucdavis.edu/about/bio.html .

  20. Marina Kalugin

    some of those on here who continue to take potshots at our brilliant Chancellor, while spewing such garbage and lies still……truly…..why do the moderators allow that?

    oh wait, they like what the likes of those who take potshots are saying – they have the same agenda?????

    …of course….

    [moderator] Marina, I am the moderator. There is only one of me. There are not “moderators.” I do not necessarily agree with the positions of those who are seeking the ouster of the Chancellor, nor of those who support her. I actually haven’t taken a position on the proper outcome of Chancellor Katehi’s situation, I don’t like or dislike the “potshots” and I have no agenda with regard to the Chancellor. I urge you not to assume anything about my positions on issues, except where I have separately stated my position when I post as a participant on the Vanguard. I separate my actions as moderator from what I do as a participant to the best of my ability. — Don.

  21. Tia Will

    David and Marina

    why you continue to spew such hatred against her, and how come you cannot even admit it?

    Of course I am not going to admit to something that is not true. I have absolutely no idea whether I would even like or dislike the Chancellor let alone “hate” her. I have never met her. In my posts, I have a number of times expressed admiration for her intelligence, her career successes, her research and her promotion of minorities and women in the sciences. The strongest thing that I have ever said against the Chancellor is that I feel that her particular world view and the choices that she has made have made her an incompatible choice to head a public university. I felt that her early resignation in this whole mess would have been best for her overall in terms of career and reputation as well as for the university and I said as much.

    I made a number of missteps in my ten years as a mid level administrator. Despite my immediate supervisor’s opinion that my positive contributions to the group outweighed my mistakes and their consequences and her repeated support for me to continue in my position, I clearly laid out my reasons for believing that I had become a suboptimal choice to continue in my leadership position and I ultimately turned the position over to someone I thought would be better in the job. Does that mean that I hated myself ?  Does clearly spelling out perceived shortcomings as well as accomplishments equal hatred ?  I do not believe so, but apparently some of you are very sure, without even having met me, that you know better than I what is in my heart. So have at it….but don’t expect me to admit to something that is not true.

     

    1. DavidSmith

      I made a number of missteps in my ten years as a mid level administrator. Despite my immediate supervisor’s opinion that my positive contributions to the group outweighed my mistakes and their consequences and her repeated support for me to continue in my position, I clearly laid out my reasons for believing that I had become a suboptimal choice to continue in my leadership position and I ultimately turned the position over to someone I thought would be better in the job. Does that mean that I hated myself ?

      I don’t see your point here. Whatever you did was your choice. Without telling us details of your missteps or achievements, I fail to see how it could relate Chancellor Katehi. The circumstances seem completely different.

      Does clearly spelling out perceived shortcomings as well as accomplishments equal hatred ?

      If that was the case, we’d have no problem. Does the Chancellor have a perfect record? Absolutely not. Could she handle the pepper spray situation in a much better way? Definitely yes. It is your nitpicking her to a level of absurdity that bothers me.

      I can’t remember all the issues that you have used to criticize her. But here are a few examples.

      You criticize her of privatizing the university when it’s really the State politicians that are not willing to provide enough funding to the university. When I pointed out that there were limited measures to make up for the budget gap, you criticize her of not being able to think of new ways to fund the university. And the solution your provided was to vote for Sanders so that we could have free education as in free lunch?

      Then you criticized her of not sharing her wealth with the students because she’s making so much money.

      Then you criticized her of not paying for business trips out of her own pocket.

      And now you are saying that it’s her fault that UCOP’s policies are unethical.

      The level of absurdity is surreal.
      [moderator] edited by request

      1. Tia Will

        David

        Once again, thanks for the thoughtful response.

         don’t see your point here. Whatever you did was your choice. Without telling us details of your missteps or achievements, I fail to see how it could relate Chancellor Katehi. The circumstances seem completely different.”

        I am happy to clarify. I actually had two points. The first is about the accusation of “hatred”. Pointing out perceived errors, whether they are one’s own, or those of others does not equate to hatred. I do not hate either myself or the Chancellor although we both made errors which I believe were sufficient to step down from our respective positions. The second point is about personal responsibility. I believe that if one’s actions are causing harm to the institution for which one works ( or as in my case, the department for which one works), one has the responsibility to end that damage, even if it means stepping down.

        The level of absurdity is surreal.”

        I believe that “surreal” and “nitpicking” are fairly subjective assessments. I realize that you truly feel that you have made the correct assessment. I disagree. Do you really believe that a disagreement of this type warrants calling someone else “stupid” or “hateful”. Because this does not seem to be in alignment with your usually more thoughtful posts. Again, I would question who is being more emotionally driven in these conversations ?

        1. DavidSmith

          Do you really believe that a disagreement of this type warrants calling someone else “stupid” or “hateful”.

          Again, I would question who is being more emotionally driven in these conversations ?

          I am indeed very much emotional on the issue because with the departure of a great leader and the chilling way of how UCOP handles the issue, I see a dim future (for the next couple of years) for UCD which I’ve worked very hard for and which I love very much. We’ve been on a great momentum under Katehi’s leadership and now it’s gone.

          What I originally said in my comment was that the Bee was trying to appeal to the hateful side of the general public. “Hateful”, “Absurd” are indeed subjective assessment and I’m sure not everyone agrees. But I can’t think of any anything else that could explain your behavior on this issue.

        2. DavidSmith

          With all that said, I do agree that it’s not a good idea to call other people names. Moderator, please remove the last sentence of my 7:19am post.

  22. Marina Kalugin

    Tia, you have been the most stalwart “hater” on all of the Katehi threads… and somehow you don’t think so????  really????

    as someone who finally admits she doesn’t even know her, why are you here bashing her nearly hourly …don’t you have a job, or other people to go after???  or something???

  23. Marina Kalugin

    and, now you go on with all the blah blah of your missteps….did those who didn’t even know you cause you to lose your job?

    why not?

    or do you care to share that aspect of your missteps….

    obviously you have learned little from prior “missteps” as you continue to go after good people publicly on these threads, nearly hourly…

    while “pretending” such good intentions of sharing and analyzing and such other nonsense….

  24. Tia Will

    Marina

    When I am truly invested in an issue, I have often written an article on it. I have not written an article with regard to the Chancellor.  You do not seem to feel that you, or Jerry, or David, write excessively in support of the Chancellor, and yet you seem to object to both volume and content of my posts. Do you have a preferred amount that I should be limited to daily ?  As for “pretending”, what qualifies you to judge the veracity of my posts ? And what compels you to make this personal instead of an exchange of ideas ?

      1. Barack Palin

        LOL, I thought I remembered that she wrote an article too.

        David, do you know if the regents have extended Katehi’s paid leave. I can’t find anything on it. If not she’s eligible to return now.

        1. Barack Palin

          Maybe that’s the plan.  Possibly the report might not justify her removal so they might be playing the stall game.  Keep pushing it back while keeping Katehi from her job.  The longer they keep her on leave the harder it will be for her to return.

        2. DavidSmith

          The UCOP can play whatever game they want. What concerns me the most is negative impact on our campus. After all this nonsense, I can’t see why any sane person would want to come to UCD to work for a management that treats its employees like this.

      2. Barack Palin

        When I am truly invested in an issue, I have often written an article on it

        So Tia, since you have written an article can we then surmise that you’re truly invested?

        1. Tia Will

          BP

          That depends on what one means by invested. I have no financial or personal stake in this issue at all. I am neither personal friends with nor economically dependent upon any of the players in this story.  My sole interest is in the well being of the university. I do not believe that is the case for all who are posting on this issue.

          On another note, I have a sincere question for you BP. And please correct me if I have any of this wrong. I seem to remember that you have been quite critical in the past of benefits to public employees, such as fire fighters, stating on a number of occasions that we should be cutting back on expenditures to these groups. And yet you are a staunch defender of the lavish expenditures and perks of the Chancellor. How do you reconcile these positions ?

        2. DavidSmith

          I couldn’t help but compile what was exchanged in a single sub-thread. This is mind boggling to me. The surreal part is that there is actually no logically flaw in what seems to be contradictory comments from the same person…

          TW:

          When I am truly invested in an issue, I have often written an article on it. I have not written an article with regard to the Chancellor. 

          DS:

           http://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/ucd/deadline-for-katehi-report-passes-process-drags-on/

          BP:

          So Tia, since you have written an article can we then surmise that you’re truly invested?

          TW:

          That depends on what one means by invested. I have no financial or personal stake in this issue at all. I am neither personal friends with nor economically dependent upon any of the players in this story.

    1. Jerry Waszczuk

      Professor at University of California, Davis
      In early 2015, I asked Chancellor Katehi to attend the inauguration of the UC Davis Chile Center (Life Sciences Innovation Center, funded by the Chilean Development Corporation, several Chilean universities and large agricultural firms). Chile’s President Michelle Bachelet planned to dedicate the center in April 2015. To me it was noteworthy that Chancellor Katehi accepted the invitation, as she had to sandwich it between other major meetings. She flew to Chile overnight after finishing one meeting, held separate meetings in Santiago with the Rectors of both the University of Chile and also the Catholic University of Chile immediately after arriving. She attended the inauguration in the afternoon, speaking on the mutual benefits of the long-term collaborations between UC Davis and Chile, meeting with President Bachelet, attending the subsequent reception. She then returned to the US on another overnight flight to attend another pre-planned meeting in the US the next day. Katehi performed exceptionally well in each of the meetings in Chile, was gracious and thoughtful, and the trip was, in my view, an extreme success. I know from conversations with many Chileans who participated that they thought so too.

      I find it astounding that such extremely hard and successful work can be characterized as something negative. It appears to me that the Sacramento Bee has, from the beginning of this issue, issued what I believe to be scurrilous articles that attempt to smear Chancellor Katehi’s reputation. UC Davis is an exceptional university providing benefits to the local area, as well as to the state, nation and the world. With a $3.4 billion budget, I would hope that that it’s Chancellor would be traveling frequently to interact with other leaders. Chancellor Katehi has been very successful in advancing UC Davis and I’d like to see these achievements recognized.

      Sincerely,
      Lovell (Tu) Jarvis
      Professor, Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics, UC Davis (for identification purposes only)
       
      Like · Reply · http://www.davisenterprise.com/local-news/ucd/deadline-for-katehi-report-passes-process-drags-on/

      1. DavidSmith

        I applaud Prof. Jarvis for what he wrote. Jerry please bring my regards to him on DE and perhaps invite him to participate in the discussion on DV; I don’t have an account on DE.

        To me it was noteworthy that Chancellor Katehi accepted the invitation, as she had to sandwich it between other major meetings. She flew to Chile overnight after finishing one meeting, held separate meetings in Santiago with the Rectors of both the University of Chile and also the Catholic University of Chile immediately after arriving. She attended the inauguration in the afternoon, speaking on the mutual benefits of the long-term collaborations between UC Davis and Chile, meeting with President Bachelet, attending the subsequent reception. She then returned to the US on another overnight flight to attend another pre-planned meeting in the US the next day.

        This is the Chancellor that I know. I was once invited to her residence for dinner, together with maybe 20 other faculty members from all different departments. Among many other things about the university, she described to us her typical work day which starts at 5am in the morning,  and more often than not, doesn’t finish until 9 or 10 in  the evening. On that specific day, she obviously looked very tired even when we started the dinner, but discussions about how to make our university kept going on, till probably 9pm ish.

        I don’t know any other Chancellor/president that has this amount of drive and this level of dedication to UCD. When the Chancellor said she loved the University, I think she truly meant it and she proved by what she has done [for] this campus.

        [moderator] edited by request

        1. Jerry Waszczuk

          DavidSmith

          I thanked him already and I will bring your regards to him as well.

          This just unreal what is going  on . Chancellor  is  the ambassador for the  whole UC system .   This whole circus created by Napolitano and UCOP  looks to me like a  hoax which was  ill crafted for unknown  to me purpose .

        2. Jerry Waszczuk

          Dear Professor  Jarvis . 

          I copied your post to DavisVangardhttps://www.davisvanguard.org/…/katehis-team-pushes…/…

          One of the DV participant asked me to bring his regards to you for you opinion about Chancellor Katehi who is good ambassador for whole UC system and what is going on is unreal and despicable 

          DavidSmith
          August 4, 2016 at 9:35 pm
          I applaud Prof. Jarvis for what he wrote. Jerry please bring my regards to him on DE and perhaps invite him to participate in the discussion on DV; I don’t have an account on DE.

          Thank you again  for bringing up the information about  Chancellor’s  hard work for the University of California.
          Best regards
          Jerry

        3. DavidSmith

          h

          Thanks for catching the error. If the moderator sees this, please help to change it to “for”.

          And h, let me tell you something. This is perhaps the third time that you caught a typo/error from me, albeit in a sarcastic manner.

          I am not a native English speaker, but my English is good enough to read the tone of your language. I appreciate your pointing out the error, but I don’t appreciate the mocking part of it.

          Several weeks ago, Jerry brought up one particular issue that Chancellor Katehi was originally from Greece. Many jumped at him in great astonishment and disbelief that nationality played a role. Here you are showing a great live example, whether consciously or unconsciously, of how that is indeed an issue. It’s not much different than when you complain that Jerry’s posts are unreadable because he has bad grammar. And it’s not much different than when Chancellor Katehi joined UCD, the Bee reported that she had a “thick accent”.

        4. hpierce

          David… with a moniker DavidSmith, no reason for me to guess that… the ESL thing… that said, have self reported my comment to the moderator, and hope this also gets deleted, but, please understand that I do not buy that the Chancellor is “innocent”, and yet have no personal nor professional animosity towards her.

          There are a few of you who seem to believe, “my Chancellor, right or wrong”… I don’t get that, nor the trashing of “the Napo”… perhaps they have both erred in their actions… think it is called ‘being human’… but the vitriol should stop, and let this thing play out, and see where we are.   Peace.

        5. DavidSmith

          No we are cool. I understand that there is the possibility that you did not know. I said only before, I think, that I am an immigrant.

          I acknowledge the many criticism of the Chancellor when criticism is justified. Honestly, I think I would handle the pepper spray incident better than her if I were put at the spot at that time. But can I do better than her in advancing UCD? I don’t think so and I think it’s very hard to find someone who can. That’s where I stand.

  25. Tia Will

    David

    Do you upgrade your business travel with your own money ? “

    Yes.

    As I posted previously, that is exactly what we do. My partner’s business travel allowance covers for coach. If he feels that his rest or work schedule requires more comfortable accommodations, we pay for them ourselves. Our lodging allowance is anything but luxurious. We frequently pay for our own upgrades.

    My point, which you have stated that you do not understand, so I will hope to clarify, is that at a time when there are not a lot of public funds available, it would strong leadership to step up and model cost savings. What a positive statement it would be for anyone in a position of great power at a public institution to show their willingness to pay for their own luxuries.

    While I agree that the travel expenses listed are not unusual, there is definitely room for improvement in this policy. Is not improvement part of the role of a leader. Do we really think that the best use of university funds is first class travel accommodations for the Chancellor and her husband/aide ? Do we really think that flying first class using public funds brings in more money to the university than would flying first class using her own money for the upgrade ?

     

    1. hpierce

      Like you, Tia, I followed the same rules… they weren’t written down much, but one should know right from wrong, either as an employee of a business, or as a public employee… you do not take “advantage”…

      One time, I had my spouse travel with me, to attend an employer approved class to advance my skills and value to my employer… a three day class… it was available in Marysville, or in Ventura… I figured out the cost of the class itself (same in both locations), asked permission to attend, and without being asked, I told my employer that I’d be responsible for all incremental costs… travel, difference in lodging, meals, etc.  Specifically including all costs related to my spouse accompanying me.

      It was approved, and my food chain was amazed that I was that meticulous… but IT WAS THE RIGHT THING!  Guess I’m weird, but I expect employees to do the right thing… if I owned my business, probably would have thought differently.  The Chancellor does not “own” UCD.

      The dollar amount, is indeed trivial… but Dad taught me, “it’s not that I disliked HS, it was just the principal of the thing”… [spelling and pun intended]

      And no, did not attend the class in Marysville…

    2. DavidSmith

      Great Tia. You’ve set a great role model for all us. And it is therefore justifiable that the Chancellor should be publicly humiliated because she didn’t use her own money to upgrade when she worked three full days and took two overnight international  flights in between. In comparison with the Chancellor, I now feel so ashamed that I often arrive one day before my meetings to get prepared. I should probably resign and give back my salary to share with the students because I didn’t take a red eye which would save much precious working time that the university is paying me for.

  26. DavidSmith

    Tia Will:

    My sole interest is in the well being of the university. 

    No you don’t care about the well being of the university. You simply don’t.

    If you did, you wouldn’t have aligned with whatever the Bee throws at the Chancellor. If you did, you would have at least learned how much dedication the Chancellor has for this university. If you did, you would have long recognized how much loss it is to UCD by losing the Chancellor. Everything you have posted so far was directed at criticizing the Chancellor, using whatever reason you could think of, however absurd it is. Not a single time did you voice any concern about the impact on UCD’s future when such a dedicated leader is forced to leave by the bogus actions of the UCOP.

    When you say your “sole interest is in the well being of the university”, what I read is disgusting hypocrisy.

    1. hpierce

      Deflection?

      Why did the spouse have to accompany and be on the public dime?

      The standard is ‘reasonable’ costs, not “E ticket”… it is reasonable to not resort to the “red-eye”, yet…

        1. hpierce

          And his function in the travel, related to his job description?  Having a spouse employed by the same employer is not a “meal ticket” in my opinion… or at least shouldn’t be…

          Have already said the $ is trivial… the sense of “entitlement” bugs the heck out of me.

  27. Jerry Waszczuk

    Just a  few  minutes ago I got the  e-mail from Mr. Larry Kamer about  the Chancellor’s  travel expenses
    Friends and Colleagues –
     Thanks to those of you who have contacted Melinda Guzman and me to find out the other half of the Sacramento Bee’s overblown story earlier this week concerning Chancellor Katehi’s travel.   That story made no effort to determine how the Chancellor’s expenses stack up to her peers in the UC System, nor did the writer, Diana Lambert, attempt to measure these expenses against the significant results the Chancellor achieved via this travel.
     ‪The facts are these:
    ‪1.  The University of California has routinely audited Chancellor Katehi’s travel every year and found no irregularities.
    ‪2. Likewise, the Chancellor’s husband (who is also a tenured faculty member at UC Davis) has also had his travel audited annually without issue or incident.
    ‪3. Chancellor Katehi’s travel expenses are lower than most of her peers at other UC campuses.
    ‪4. Her personal trips, or portions of trips that are personal, have always been paid from personal funds.  That is a matter of public record.
    ‪5.  Finally, it is worth noting that much of the Chancellor’s travel has been in support of fundraising for UC Davis, where she has raised more money than ANY other Chancellor.  From July 1, 2015 to June 30, 2016, UCD raised $226,176,992—the greatest dollar-amount in UC Davis fundraising history—from 34,318 donors.  These funds – now more than $1 billion raised under Chancellor Katehi’s leadership – that directly benefit student scholarships, faculty compensation, and expansion of UCD’s award-winning programs.
    Thanks.  LK
     Kamer Consulting Group, LLC

     

  28. Marina Kalugin

    hp is also still at it?   same ole tired comments as on the other katehi threads?

    I am proud to say that I am truly invested in this UC system…

    from the day I arrived as a newly admitted freshman in 1970, and then as a re-entry student and staff member starting in 1979….from each twist and turn in my career, and in my life here, where I helped set the PACE (pun intended  – if you don’t recall the pink algebra book…feel free to look that up also)…

    I have been involved in much throughout this town – for all these decades…

    yes, as my children went through school, and then as high potential/early admits to UCD and so on…

    I got more and more invested in the UC and especially UCD…..was an activist and friends with each Chancellor since those days..

    And, I continue to be horrified at what this place has become, the witchhunt against the best Chancellor we have ever had, and ever hoped to entice to come this way….

    I have to take a hiatus from this group for a while….I hope the sane voices like DavidSmith and Jerry try to keep the crazies in line while I am away…

    I have some urgent deadlines to meet over the next couple of weeks…. and will do my very best not to waste a moment here until some things are resolved on other fronts…

    enjoy your day and the weekend….cya in a few weeks/months….

     

     

  29. DavidSmith

    I got email from the Academic Senate just now. The investigation has concluded  and found no wrongdoing on Chancellor Katehi’s part. Chancellor Katehi resigns anyways.

    Now the haters can celebrate.

    What a tragic loss to UCD!

    1. Barack Palin

      So they find no wrongdoing and she still resigns?  I wonder if there’s a settlement already in place or if she’s resigning in order to start a lawsuit?

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