Guest Commentary: Where Have All the Babies Gone?

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By David Taormino

Davis has been gradually losing its innate college town character. The level of civility in civic discourse continues its decline, as demonstrated in the recent Measure H campaign. The 1960 – 70s mid-western ethos that prospered when Davis and UCD set out on their mutually aligned growth paths has deteriorated with urban-like political fighting. The midwestern neighborly values that were once well established have given way to a divisive approach to community engagement. In housing development discussions, the person you disagree with is characterized as evil, dishonest, a liar, etc. Why? In part because Davis’s 40 years of restrictive housing and growth policies has spawned and feeds unintended and unnecessary discord with little visible, offsetting benefits.

Here are some of the impacts:

  1. Less than 40% of our TOP City management live in Davis. Nearly all the major City decision makers and their families live elsewhere. Their family life and personal civic involvement is not here.
  2. The percentage of Davis Police and Fire Department personnel who live in Davis is much lower than the TOP management. In essence, their family and hearts reside elsewhere.
  3. The vast majority of North, North Davis homeowners are individuals employed at UCD or a Davis business. They cannot afford to live here. A sizable number have children commuting daily with their parents to attend Davis schools, a good outcome for us.
  4. In the Cannery, roughly 80% of the buyers had no relationship to Davis or UCD, although some had grown children living here. Most came from the Bay Area and Marin County, exactly where the Cannery developers heavily advertised. It was an intentional strategy not intended to attract local UCD faculty, staff, and other Davis workers. In the 546 homes, an unbelievably low number of school age children actually live there. Something like 26 new students resulted from Cannery’s 546 homes plus apartments. In the 80’s and early 90’s a “Cannery-type neighborhood” would have generated 300 to 400 new students. Where have all the families with or capable of having babies gone?
  5. Approximately 1,000 elementary through high school students commute daily to our community.

Without these commuting students some neighborhood schools would close. Imagine the rancor and anger that would result should neighborhood school closures be considered. The civic anger, neighborhood vs neighborhood would likely be greater than the recent Measure H arguments. The School District has done a masterful entrepreneurial job in “recruiting” out of Davis parents/children to attend our neighborhood schools. For how long can those creative efforts be sufficient? A university-oriented community NEEDS GREAT schools. Great schools require children from childbearing age parents living here and as a result contributing to a wholesome, family friendly, inclusive community. That was “the 1960’s and 1970’s Davis civic perspective” when UCD embarked on its original and now continuing growth plan.

The list could continue, but you get the point.

The unintended consequences of overly restrictive housing policies are not positive. While we are a smaller city, how did we achieve that? We stopped converting adjacent Davis ag land into housing for Davis/UCD employees by converted our neighboring community’s ag land, i.e., Spring Lake, into houses instead. Davis employees are essentially “colonizing” other nearby communities, not unlike European monarchs did. Do the unintended results of the current development battles make sense to you? It certainly doesn’t to me. Of course, I’m a Davis housing provider, “a developer,” but what am I misstating? The homes in North, North Davis are built on Woodland’s agricultural land, so we “save” Davis ag land while North, North Davis is populated by Davis-based employees who can’t afford a home in Davis. By my math that’s a 0-sum gain/loss for ag land. It results in more commuter traffic, more greenhouse gasses, and the other environmental problems that Davisites preach about. In essence Davis’s restrictive approach contributes directly to the evils we seek to avoid. The 2200 currently constructed homes in North, North Davis with 600 more to come, occupy about the same sized parcel as the original Covell Village at the corner of Covell and Pole Line Road. Davis residents are essentially enduring the “Covell Village Traffic,” plus the environmental harm of an extra 6.8 miles of commuting.

Sadly, Davis doesn’t get the tax dollars, although we do get the kids, which is a blessing. We also pay extra school taxes as a result of these North, North Davis homes not being built in Davis.

So, what’s the path forward? First, I’m not advocating eliminating Measures J, R, D and the citizens’ right to vote. Once given the vote, the voters aren’t giving it back voluntarily! The State might take it away if we continue on what is a self-destructive approach to NEEDED housing. Instead, I propose a real-life example incorporated in the Palomino Place neighborhood which offers the types of housing required to START the process of returning Davis to a university focused community with all the benefits that follow. At 26 acres, it’s not too big for a prototype and still large enough to showcase a number of well­ designed home choices for first time, as well as first and second move-up buyers. My hope is to build a consensus of voters who will support a prototype on a smallish infill parcel and in the process change the tone of Measure J, R, D discussions. Palomino Place is financially sound, buildable, inclusive, and focuses on the buyers we want to be part of our community for all the reasons expressed here.

So how does this template address the problems outlines in paragraphs A – E?

It provides homes designed, sized, and priced for Davis-based employees, UC Davis faculty, and staff to start a rational discussion to address the unintended problems outlined earlier. If maintaining a university-focused, family friendly, inclusive community is our goal, then practical plans that provide the right housing requires thoughtful consideration. If our community wants Davis children in our schools, we need to build homes that their parents who work here, can afford. In my 52 years of real estate experience, I’ve seen UCD faculty and staff, and Davis business employees that are willing to stretch their housing budgets to live here, but few can pay the Bay Area prices at the Cannery or other recent smaller projects. While million-dollar Davis homes are now familiar to us, the majority of Davis-based employees can’t stretch that far. The larger homes and higher prices in the Cannery eliminated most UCD faculty, staff, and Davis-based employees. This occurred even though modern-day financing allows for more realistic qualifying criteria than the outdated government-imposed rules allow.

Palomino Place offers a variety of home sizes that can be replicated elsewhere, each targeted to the real-world financial capabilities of locally employed families. Here is an overview of the housing:

  • First Time Buyers: 22 Cottages 17% of the total. The cottages are 2 bed, 2 bath, around 960 square feet and about the same size as the smaller Stanley Davis entry level home in East Davis.
  • First time Buyers: 11 Townhomes: 9% of total homes. These townhomes are also 2 bed, 2 bath around 1100 square feet. The combined 33 units are restricted on the initial sale to solely First Time Buyers, which amounts to 26% of the total homes.
  • First or Second Time Buyers: 11 Townhomes 9% of the total. 3 bed, 2 bath approximately 1350 square feet. Essentially between 1/4 to 1/3 of all Palomino Place’s homes allocated to younger residents and families.
  • First move-up: lots with an ADU. Main house provides 1400 to 1600 square feet, 3 and 4 bedrooms, and 2 baths. Our target buyers are those current Davis residents living in a smaller home. These existing homeowners are likely owners of a 3 bed, 2 bath 1200 +/-home. The 640 sq ft ADU offers them more flexible living space or if rented, income to cover the additional costs. The resale of their existing home will provide more opportunities for younger Davis based buyers to live here.
  • Second move-up: lots with an ADU main house 1600 -1800 square 4 bedroom, 2 ½ baths.  Buyers are current Davis homeowners, higher income UCD faculty and staff or other Davis Based Employees.
  • The ADU footprint (approximately 30 x 20) will allow for three interior designs: 1-bedroom granny flat, 2-bedroom teenager’s suite, or an office/studio. 40 of these will be built for sure with more likely at buyers’ option.

Palomino Place is a practical housing template and starting point to begin addressing the unmet housing needs of our community and the benefits that follow. It’s also an open invitation to those who have trepidations, to join with me and others for rational, thoughtful and financially practical oriented housing discussions using softer rhetoric. These housing battles do not reflect well on our community. We need, as a community, to move from battles to thoughtful and helpful discussions. We can start here.

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11 Comments

  1. Ron Oertel

    The level of civility in civic discourse continues its decline, as demonstrated in the recent Measure H campaign.

    You must be referring to the lawsuit which was fronted by Dan Carson, on behalf of the developer.

    The 1960 – 70s mid-western ethos that prospered when Davis and UCD set out on their mutually aligned growth paths has deteriorated with urban-like political fighting.

    Since when were they “aligned”?  The way it has worked is that UCD grows, and then expects the city to accommodate that growth (e.g., student housing).  Keep in mind that student housing does not even count toward some of the RHNA requirements that the city is facing (e.g., Affordable housing).

    Apparently, the state itself does not consider student housing to be a “city need”.

    The midwestern neighborly values that were once well established have given way to a divisive approach to community engagement.

    “Midwestern”?  Well, it is flat and hot – so there’s that similarity.

    In housing development discussions, the person you disagree with is characterized as evil, dishonest, a liar, etc. Why? In part because Davis’s 40 years of restrictive housing and growth policies has spawned and feeds unintended and unnecessary discord with little visible, offsetting benefits.

    Don’t know that I’d categorize it that way, but developers are the ones who initiate the campaigns.  Much of the time, these campaigns are not wanted by a majority of the voters in the first place.

    They reminds me of solar or used-car salesmen.

    Here are some of the impacts:

    Without responding to each one, none of these are a primary concern of Davis residents.

    Without these commuting students some neighborhood schools would close. Imagine the rancor and anger that would result should neighborhood school closures be considered. The civic anger, neighborhood vs neighborhood would likely be greater than the recent Measure H arguments. 

    Yeah, just “imagine” this – in regard to the relatively small number of people involved in it -compared to the size of the city as a whole.  “Tail wagging the dog” comes to mind.

    A university-oriented community NEEDS GREAT schools.

    There’s actually no connection between the two, given that the vast majority of UCD students are not from Davis.  UCD is not Davis’ personal university.

    There’s also no connection between the size of a school district, vs. its quality.  In fact, smaller districts are usually “better”.

    Of course, I’m a Davis housing provider, “a developer,” but what am I misstating? The homes in North, North Davis are built on Woodland’s agricultural land, so we “save” Davis ag land while North, North Davis is populated by Davis-based employees who can’t afford a home in Davis. 

    Your family is also one of the original Woodland (Spring Lake) “housing providers”.  How is it that your family was heavily-involved in that, but that you now “complain” about it?

    The 2200 currently constructed homes in North, North Davis with 600 more to come, occupy about the same sized parcel as the original Covell Village at the corner of Covell and Pole Line Road. Davis residents are essentially enduring the “Covell Village Traffic,” plus the environmental harm of an extra 6.8 miles of commuting.

    Covell Village was proposed well-after Spring Lake was already in the works.  You already know this, given your family’s involvement in Spring Lake.

    We also pay extra school taxes as a result of these North, North Davis homes not being built in Davis.

    The reason that Davis homeowners pay extra school taxes for homes in “North, North Davis” is because the school district is highly-resistant to “right-sizing” (to correspond with internally-driven needs).

    The truth is that Woodland is going to continue growing (even beyond Spring Lake), and that there’s nothing that Davis can do to stop it. This will ultimately include the 1,600 housing units at the planned business park (which “failed” in Davis).

    Though there is a “generous” voter-approved urban growth boundary in Woodland, as well. With boundaries that appear to have been written by development interests (or their allies).

    Ultimately, those who are concerned about sprawl can only help prevent it in the communities which provide some opportunity to do so.

    1. Bill Marshall

      You must be referring to the lawsuit which was fronted by Dan Carson, on behalf of the developer.

      Untrue.

      The way it has worked is that UCD grows, and then expects the city to accommodate that growth (e.g., student housing).  

      Pretty much untrue… two levels… you neglect (purposefully?  You got a problem with students?) faculty and staff @ UCD, which were the major factors, yes along with apartments for students, but the main “sprawl” in the growth of the City from late 40’s thru mid 70’s came from demand for housing for faculty and staff… but you must have “checked your facts” at the door… it wasn’t a ‘conspiracy’ by UCD, just a logical outcome…

      They reminds me of solar or used-car salesmen.

      Grammatically incorrect, but has definite kernels of truth… which one would expect in a guest piece which is basically a PR/Ad piece… you ever read the “auto” section of any ‘news’paper?  “Ads” under the guise of ‘news’… or “opinion”…

      As for David T, if you want to hear him laugh, profoundly, tell him that I was his ‘minion’ in ANY project he proposed over the years… [warning, he may laugh so hard, it would give him a stroke/heart attack… please don’t “go there”… we had major differences, but he’s a nice guy, person to person, ‘outside work’]

      There’s also no connection between the size of a school district, vs. its quality.  In fact, smaller districts are usually “better”.

      Toss up… first sentence is somewhat true, can be substantiated, second is likely false and unsubstantiated… but, some school districts are ‘legends in their own mind’, and ‘believe’ that they, not the parents, were the sole reasons for ‘success’ (which is a term open to interpretation).

      Covell Village was proposed well-after Spring Lake was already in the works.

      Again, a ‘toss-up’… the “Covell Village” site was proposed as “Crossroads” (100% residential), long before ‘Springlake’… the developer had financial and personal physical issues, so that project ‘died’… Covell Village and Springlake were actually pretty much contemporaneous as to “being in the works”… again, check your facts…

      So many other questionable assertions, Ron, but I choose not to refute them all by the facts/reality… not worth my effort, so I focused on the ones that were worth my time… a matter of cost/benefit ‘accounting’/auditing…

       

      1. Richard_McCann

        Ron O

        Don’t know that I’d categorize it that way, but developers are the ones who initiate the campaigns.  Much of the time, these campaigns are not wanted by a majority of the voters in the first place.

        As a Woodland resident, you don’t have first hand knowledge of what Davis residents want–you only know what Woodland voters want (maybe). Your distant opinions aren’t valid.  You have no idea if the campaigns are not wanted–in my experience as a Davis resident and voter (there I go, doxing myself) most voters have open minds about how they will vote. I had several conversations about questions that voters had about Measure H before they voted. Your characterization of Davis voters as being close minded is inaccurate simply because your a resident of a different city.

        Yeah, just “imagine” this – in regard to the relatively small number of people involved in it -compared to the size of the city as a whole.  “Tail wagging the dog” comes to mind.

        This really shows how out of touch you are as a Woodland resident. You have no context for the controversy around closing Valley Oak (which was converted to Da Vinci HS), or that Emerson JHS was prevented from closing due to community opposition, or that discussion of closing North Davis was quickly cut off. Since you don’t live here, you have no sense about the political realism in this community.

        There’s actually no connection between the two, given that the vast majority of UCD students are not from Davis.  UCD is not Davis’ personal university.
        There’s also no connection between the size of a school district, vs. its quality.  In fact, smaller districts are usually “better”.

        It’s not the students attracted by DJUSD schools–it’s the faculty who teach the students who are attracted, which is much more important. It’s a necessary recruiting tool for UCD (and most university towns have excellent schools).

        As for district size, there is a sweet spot where a district can offer a range of effective programs versus having organizational diseconomies of scale. LAUSD clearly has gone past the optimal size. But Dixon’s district is too small to offer the range of classes and programs that DJUSD can support. You have no idea about how to “right size” a school district because you have no expertise in the matter–you just have assertions and a desire to increase the value of your home in Woodland.

        Instead of trying to drive up your own house value in Woodland by tearing down Davis, you should just acknowledge the limitations of your local knowledge and lack of community connections so that the real stakeholders can converse.

        And Bill M, ditto on your responses.

      2. Ron Oertel

         

        As a Woodland resident, you don’t have first hand knowledge of what Davis residents want–you only know what Woodland voters want (maybe). Your distant opinions aren’t valid.

        Your opinions aren’t “valid” with the more than 80% of the voters who approved Measure J, and the 62% who voted against DiSC.

        Again, I’ve never discussed where I live, or what connections I may have with Davis.

        And again, this article was written by a developer who helped create “North, North Davis” in the first place.

        You have no idea if the campaigns are not wanted–in my experience as a Davis resident and voter (there I go, doxing myself) most voters have open minds about how they will vote. I had several conversations about questions that voters had about Measure H before they voted. Your characterization of Davis voters as being close minded is inaccurate simply because your a resident of a different city.

        What makes you think I’m not involved with campaigns, in Davis? And know many of the people whom you claim to know?  I’ve even met your wife while helping to pick up campaign signs.  My impression is that she’s much nicer than you are.

        I am confident that my views are much more-aligned with those who campaigned against DiSC, than yours are. I’d also say that in regard to the 62% who voted against DiSC.

        Ultimately, your views only “represent” yourself. How’d your one vote turn out, last time?

        This really shows how out of touch you are as a Woodland resident. You have no context for the controversy around closing Valley Oak (which was converted to Da Vinci HS), or that Emerson JHS was prevented from closing due to community opposition, or that discussion of closing North Davis was quickly cut off. Since you don’t live here, you have no sense about the political realism in this community.

        Truth be told, I don’t pay much attention to what school districts do regardless of where I live.  Until they start claiming that the city needs to expand, to meet their “needs”.  Or, cause some other problem for the populace at large.  (Which they do, periodically.)

        Again, the article itself notes that Davis is poaching Woodland students, due to the fact that the district is resistant to “right-sizing”.  (This type of thing is not unique to Davis.  For example, Piedmont is now poaching Oakland students, for the same reason.)

        It’s not the students attracted by DJUSD schools–it’s the faculty who teach the students who are attracted, which is much more important. It’s a necessary recruiting tool for UCD (and most university towns have excellent schools).

        The size/capacity of Davis’ school district ALREADY exceeds what the city actually needs.  In fact, that’s what Taormino’s article acknowledged, as well.

        They need FEWER faculty, not MORE.

        As for district size, there is a sweet spot where a district can offer a range of effective programs versus having organizational diseconomies of scale.

        Assuming that this has any validity whatsoever, what (exactly) is that size?  Does it just “happen to correspond” with a school district that’s larger than what the community actually needs?

        The cost of educating each student in Davis ALREADY EXCEEDS the reimbursement received from the state.

        And, you’re actually claiming that a city should grow to meet the undefined “optimum size” of a school district in the first place?  Really?

        I’m glad that you’re not on a planning commission or city council.

        LAUSD clearly has gone past the optimal size. But Dixon’s district is too small to offer the range of classes and programs that DJUSD can support.

        Dixon would not likely pass the type of parcel taxes that Davis does, to support those extra programs.

        What makes you think, for example – that teachers cannot handle more than one subject (in smaller districts)?  Taken to an extreme, are you familiar with one-room schoolhouses?

        You have no idea about how to “right size” a school district because you have no expertise in the matter–you just have assertions and a desire to increase the value of your home in Woodland.

        Pure crap, again.  I thought we settled this yesterday?

        You’re claiming that you’re an “expert” in “right-sizing” a school district (along with all of the “other” expertise that you claim)?

        Here’s a hint:  The “right size” corresponds with internally-driven needs.  If a school district is poaching students from out-of-district”, they’re doing so for other, self-interested reasons.

        The ability to send Woodland kids to Davis schools INCREASES the value of Woodland homes.

        Instead of trying to drive up your own house value in Woodland by tearing down Davis, you should just acknowledge the limitations of your local knowledge and lack of community connections so that the real stakeholders can converse.

        Pure crap, no matter how many times you repeat it.

        Again, the value of Woodland homes is INCREASED (if anything), by the ability to send kids to Davis schools.

        The day that you start acknowledging your limitations will likely be the same day that hell freezes over.  And that’s AFTER global warming makes that much less-likely.

        Let us know how your efforts to overturn Measure J turn out.  Given that your claims that you’re a “representative” of the Davis community.

         

    2. Ron Oertel

      Untrue.

      How would you know what he’s referring to?

      You got a problem with students?

      No. But apparently, the state does not consider student housing to be a “city need”.

      faculty and staff @ UCD, which were the major factors, yes along with apartments for students, but the main “sprawl” in the growth of the City from late 40’s thru mid 70’s came from demand for housing for faculty and staff… but you must have “checked your facts” at the door… it wasn’t a ‘conspiracy’ by UCD, just a logical outcome…

      How many Davis residents work outside of both the city AND the adjacent university?

       

      As for David T, if you want to hear him laugh, profoundly, tell him that I was his ‘minion’ in ANY project he proposed over the years… [warning, he may laugh so hard, it would give him a stroke/heart attack… please don’t “go there”… we had major differences, but he’s a nice guy, person to person, ‘outside work’]

      O.K. – you’re a minion.  🙂

      I believe he is a personable fellow. So are a lot of salespeople.

      Then again, I also recall him claiming that the infill project adjacent to Wildhorse wouldn’t “pencil out” unless he was allowed to take-over the city’s greenbelt in that location.  Turns out that it “penciled out” without doing so.

      (This was about the time that I started reading the Vanguard.)

      Again, a ‘toss-up’… the “Covell Village” site was proposed as “Crossroads” (100% residential), long before ‘Springlake’… the developer had financial and personal physical issues, so that project ‘died’… Covell Village and Springlake were actually pretty much contemporaneous as to “being in the works”… again, check your facts…

      Check your dates.  Covell Village was submitted for voter consideration WELL-AFTER Spring Lake was underway.

      And more importantly, Covell Village would not have “prevented” Spring Lake, regardless.

      Both of the Taorminos were involved with Spring Lake.

      http://cdiacdocs.sto.ca.gov/2004-1587.pdf

      So many other questionable assertions, Ron, but I choose not to refute them all by the facts/reality… not worth my effort, so I focused on the ones that were worth my time… a matter of cost/benefit ‘accounting’/auditing…

      How thoughtful of you.

      1. Bill Marshall

        Check your dates.  Covell Village was submitted for voter consideration WELL-AFTER Spring Lake was underway.

        Covell Village was only submitted to voters well (several years after) after it was being applied for, vetted by staff, and the community…

        Woodland has no ‘JeRkeD’ measures to contend with…

        Check your dates… I stand by my assertions… I ‘was there’… were you? [edited]

        1. Ron Oertel

          Check the date on the document I provided, above (2004).  The Spring Lake development itself was in process prior to that date.

          The Covell Village proposal was presented to voters in 2005.  They rejected it.  Approval of Covell Village would have had no impact on Spring Lake.

          Had voters approved Covell Village, they would have been dealing with traffic from both Covell Village AND Spring Lake.

          Lake.https://localwiki.org/davis/November_2005_Election/Measure_X
          [edited]

  2. Aaron Stacy

    Of course this is written by Taormino.

    As a resident of this property youre trying to develop, I think you should be honest with the community, you know- to build trust. You should be transparent about YOUR involvement in shooting down Davis High School’s proposal to store their animals on this property while their facilities underwent some construction from April to August of this year.

    Everyone on the property was in unanimous approval to have the animals stay here for several reasons:
    1) We would be helping the community. The facilities had everything that DHS was looking for.

    2) It would give those facilities a new occupant since Mr. Botelli retired and moved his horses back to his main property in September of 2021.

    3) It would give the residents who enjoy walking on the trail something to watch. The barn they were looking to house their animals in has two paddocks that face the Davis agricultural buffer walking trail that dozens- if not hundreds of people walk every day. While there were horses here, you could watch people from our window interact with, and take pictures of, the horses.

    Strangely enough, at the 11th hour, I receieved an email from my contact at DHS asking if someone changed their mind- nobody did. However, when he forwarded me their email, guess who was cc’ed to it?

    You guessed it, David Taormino and a potential, unconfirmed associate: Darla Rosenthal. Now, why would these two be included on this email chain when they don’t live there or have any involvement in any matters at this property up until that point?

    I’ll let the readers connect the dots, but my take on it is that Taormino and friends killed the deal to make the property less desirable to keep around. If the tenants xould be painted as the bad guys, a vote to knock this place down and turn it into cookie-cutter investments for the Bay Area would go a LOT smoother.

    That’s just the facts. Hope to hear from you or Mr. Greenwald in the replies 🙃

    1. Bill Marshall

      Those are not the facts… not as written… ex.

      … but my take on it is that Taormino and friends killed the deal to make the property less desirable to keep around.

      That would be an opinion… “facts” as to motivation, NOT in evidence.

      Your references to Davis High School proposing to temporarily have livestock ‘housed there’ and tenants on the property are not truly important ‘facts’… ex.,

      If the tenants xould be painted as the bad guys, a vote to knock this place down and turn it into cookie-cutter investments for the Bay Area would go a LOT smoother.

      A “typo” I cannot comment on, by VG rules, so I won’t, and the rest is a snarky opinion, not a ‘fact’…

       

       

       

  3. Ron Oertel

    In the Cannery, roughly 80% of the buyers had no relationship to Davis or UCD, although some had grown children living here. Most came from the Bay Area and Marin County, exactly where the Cannery developers heavily advertised. It was an intentional strategy not intended to attract local UCD faculty, staff, and other Davis workers. In the 546 homes, an unbelievably low number of school age children actually live there. Something like 26 new students resulted from Cannery’s 546 homes plus apartments. In the 80’s and early 90’s a “Cannery-type neighborhood” would have generated 300 to 400 new students.

    Ironically, The Cannery is exactly the type of housing that would normally attract families.

    And the units that you’re proposing at Palomino Place are not likely large-enough (or have enough parking) to attract a lot of familes. Especially when compared to your other development (Spring Lake). Not to mention the fact that your Palomino Place development apparently restricts any gain that homebuyers sometimes experience. (It would be helpful to disclose the details of that, here.)

    Where have all the families with or capable of having babies gone?

    There’s actually two answers to this:

    1)  Enrollment is declining throughout the state, including in Yolo county.  People are having fewer children, and the overall population has actually been dropping.

    Some of them (including families) are no doubt migrating to other states.

    2)  Locally, the newer, less-wealthy families have taken-up residence in in your “North, North Davis” development (Spring Lake).  Of course, that place was “in the dumps” during the last housing downturn.

    But as housing costs (everywhere) have risen these past few years, families (especially younger, less-wealthy ones) are going to migrate where they get the most “bang-for-the-buck”.  That’s probably why The Cannery didn’t work out as (some) hoped for.  In contrast, it’s an easy purchase for someone coming from the Bay Area – which apparently are not young families (for the most part).  Or at least, not families with large numbers of children.  (In my opinion, the latter is not a “bad” thing.)

    (Can’t help but think of a correlation between having large numbers of children and less wealth.)

    The rise in costs is also driving some of the outward migration from the state, itself.  Well that – plus the taxes, crime, unusually high gas prices, crappy school systems, traffic, etc.

     

     

  4. tkeller

    Id be interested to know if Mr Taromino ever considered not building any single family homes here, but instead making this a much higher density development.

    While I appreciate the gesture towards attracting the right kind of citizen for the city, I also cant help to think that with the housing crisis being as bad as it is, if we shouldn’t be a little more focused on increasing density per acre and getting the best “bang for the buck”

    The cannery it seemed had a similar mixed density gradient with higher density stuff up front, tapering to the most expensive and least dense at the rear…  but given that most low density single family housing isnt expected to pencil out long term for the city financially… maybe we should be re-imagining this single family homes paradigm.

    People of “baby making age” are totally okay living in townhomes or condos after all, and if you really want to cater to that set, then density and number of units per acre are going to be the way to go.

    Maybe this property should start with 4+ story condos up by the street and taper back to townhomes at the rear and have NO single family housing…

    Would not such a development:
    1) Get more total units and allow more people to make it back into davis’s city limits
    2) Be better in terms of revenue and ability to maintain infrastructure long term for the city and
    3) Be more profitable for the developer?

    Now, Im sure this development is far too far along to consider any of the above, and I wouldnt expect them to change development course at this point… but these are the thought patterns with regards to development that I think we should be having.     This kind of single family / car-centric,  / divorced-from-all-other-daily-needs  / subdivision is the continuation of an urban planning model that has been thoroughly discredited.

    This should be the last such project that gets built in the “old mold” before we completely re-evaluate our concepts of density, transit, bikeablity and walkability etc.

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