The Police Oversight report is now out and you can read the full nine-page text on the City Webpage.
Claire St. John of the Davis Enterprise also did a story on this in Sunday’s newspaper.
If you read yesterday’s article, your reaction to it is probably heavily determined by your feelings about this issue going in. If you felt that the entire issue was a whole lot to do about nothing, then you take solace in statements such as this by the Police Ombudsman Bob Aaronson:
“Of what I observed first-hand, there is little that is troubling about how the Davis Police Department responds to the public. To the extent that any incidents have prompted my concern, it has typically been misjudgments and not misconduct.”
On the other hand, those who opposed the creation of the Office of the Ombudsman and favored a Civilian Police Review Board instead, have pointedly told me that Aaronson’s report just shows them that their feelings on this were correct and that we need to get a stronger system in place that will be able to do a better, stronger, more thorough job at oversight.
I would like to take the middle position in this debate, because I have found Bob Aaronson to be a diligent and well-intentioned person who is incredibly studious and perceptive. I believe that there are fundamental weaknesses in the oversight system – weaknesses that I have laid out ad nauseum in other entries on this blog – however, I believe that those weaknesses can be overcome with diligence and minor structural changes in some of the bodies created by the city council and the police department. I would additionally like to take the middle position, because I believe that Bob Aaronson was well-intentioned and indeed very strategic when he decided to write his report.
I would like to be able to take that middle position, but frankly, I cannot.
I do suggest that people read the full report that is linked above, because the Davis Enterprise did not cover some of the more pointed statements by Mr. Aaronson.
“As I was quoted in a recent Sacramento Bee article, the Buzayan matter was a missed opportunity to begin a meaningful community dialogue around law enforcement issues… Every honest person who played a role in the Buzayan matter must, in hindsight, admit that he’d/ she’d do some things better, more circumspectly, if a ‘do over’ were possible. Healing requires acknowledgment of as much by everyone. Those who haven’t benefitted (sic) from hindsight will simply repeat their mistakes, to the community’s and their own detriment.”
I agree with Bob Aaronson here, and I think it is important for the community itself to understand the point that Mr. Aaronson is making. I find it very unfortunate that this statement did not make its way into the Davis Enterprise article.
However, I also believe that Mr. Aaronson missed out on his own opportunity. And while I understand that Mr. Aaronson has to be cautious and strategic with his position, I think he actually has considerably more political capital to burn than he probably thinks. I do not believe that the city council is in a strong position to be able to fire Mr. Aaronson without handing significant ammunition to people such as myself and others who have been critics of both the police department and city government in general.
Moreover, while I agree with Mr. Aaronson that there is not a Buzayan-level event that he has witnessed to our knowledge, I believe that the community needs to have discourse on the most widespread complaint about the police department—what I shall call pretense stops (in lieu of the more racially charged—racial profiling). These are cases where individuals – who are either of a minority racial heritage, or perceived to be from a lower-socioeconomic status by the vehicle they are driving – are pulled over for minor offenses that other citizens would not be stopped for. This is a very prevalent occurrence in the City of
This practice is at times considered good police work and in fact is rewarded. However, it also serves to create tremendous distrust in the minority community because it gives the appearance—that minorities (who are disproportionately of lower socioeconomic status and even those who are not of lower socioeconomic status) are being singled out not because of what they have done, but because of who they are.
This is in my opinion, and the opinion of many in this community, a serious problem and it is not addressed in this report and I feel very disappointed that this was not brought up and that we could not have a discussion on this issue.
Mr. Aaronson has come to the conclusion that the more serious incidents, such as the Buzayan incident, are not an everyday or even a frequent occurrence. I could agree with that assessment; however, my own research – through interviews from calls we have received – suggests at least five to ten more serious incidents per year. But I have a further concern that a lot of these incidents are not being reported at this time, because people either lack trust in the police oversight system, or they lack the financial resources to pursue it through the legal system. Furthermore, people are fearful of being maligned in the public realm as the Buzayans have been.
While Mr. Aaronson compliments members of the police for their treatment of citizens, I have serious concerns about the level of training that some of these well-meaning officers have. I have recently witnessed an appalling lack of police work, where a vandalism incident was reported to the police, an officer came out and took a quick glance and left. However, in the process of cleaning up the scene, I noticed a receipt with the name of an individual on it. The receipt was found just feet from where the police officer parked his vehicle. While the incident itself was not serious, the lack of attention to small details was rather appalling.
The report on Tuesday also contains discussion on both the Police Advisory Board (PAC) and the Community Advisory Board (CAB). I will report in detail on the PAC later this week. I have already reported on some of my concerns about the CAB.
The following, is from the City Staff Report written by City Manager Bill Emlen, Interim Police Chief Steve Pierce, and Deputy City Manager Kelly Stachowicz. It is written by city staff (separate from Aaronson’s report) giving feedback on the PAC and the CAB. The report reads:
“The group is meant to provide the Police Chief and other Police Department staff a window into the community. It allows Police Department staff to understand important community issues as seen through the eyes of the community. Members of the group bring to the meetings their concerns, questions, comments and suggestions about police related issues.”
However, I have found the actual workings of the CAB to be different. In speaking with individuals in this group, none of that which is described above is occurring on a regular basis. Issues coming from the public are rarely raised. In fact, the impression I received was that they were often overtly discouraged. Moreover, rarely has input been solicited or received by this body. When the CAB met with the Police Chief Candidate recently, very few tough or substantive questions were raised. “It was a very fluffy interview. Tough questions were not asked,” were among some of the comments made by one of the individuals in attendance that I spoke with.
Moreover, the description sounds more like that of a propaganda purpose than a true advisory relationship. Corresponding with that belief is this mention from the staff report:
“On more than one occasion members have brought controversial issues to a meeting to get clarification on police policies or specific cases. While the Police Department has to be diligent in its protections of confidentiality, misinformation has been addressed and the CAB members have been able to share the correct information with people in the community.”
I read this to say that the police department has used the CAB to promote and clarify their operations—information that is then used to correct information with people in the community. What is interesting is that there is no mention of times when the members of the CAB have brought an issue up with the police and the police were able to correct problems. The reason that such feeback was likely not mentioned in the report is that it probably has not occurred. However, the city council sold the public on the belief that the purpose of the CAB was precisely to give the police department a means to get feedback from the community so that the police could better serve the community.
My previous report, questioned whether in fact the CAB really had a diverse membership—the majority of the members of the CAB are strong supporters of both the police and the council majority. Moreover, they rarely raise tough issues or ask tough questions.
If the council wishes to continue this body, it would be more productive to have them meet in public where a broader cross-section of the community can participate and air their concerns and offer feedback. The alternative would be to alter the make-up of the body to include more people who are likely to be more critical of the department. This would serve a dual function of giving the police better feedback but also helping the critics of the police to better understand the working of the department. This would seem to be of mutual benefit.
The current process however seems to be premised on the notion of cutting public discourse on the issue of police operations. The CAB meets in private. The PAC meets in private. The Human Relations Commission no longer deals with police issues. And the city councilmembers nod their heads but do little else whenever anyone comes forth with a legitimate complaint. The public has little to no access with this entire process – other than the three minutes before city council – and I wonder to what extent these bodies are even aware of the existing problems between the police and certain communities.
My assessment is that in the last year, little has changed in the operations of the police or this city government. And in many respects, the systems in place are worse than the ones that existed on June 1, 2005, before Officer Ly ever met the Buzayan family.
—Doug Paul Davis reporting
When the CAB met with the Police Chief Candidate recently, very few tough or substantive questions were raised. “It was a very fluffy interview. Tough questions were not asked,” were among some of the comments made by one of the individuals in attendance that I spoke with.
Was your source one of the members of the CAB? If so, why didn’t he/she ask tough questions?
When the CAB met with the Police Chief Candidate recently, very few tough or substantive questions were raised. “It was a very fluffy interview. Tough questions were not asked,” were among some of the comments made by one of the individuals in attendance that I spoke with.
Was your source one of the members of the CAB? If so, why didn’t he/she ask tough questions?
When the CAB met with the Police Chief Candidate recently, very few tough or substantive questions were raised. “It was a very fluffy interview. Tough questions were not asked,” were among some of the comments made by one of the individuals in attendance that I spoke with.
Was your source one of the members of the CAB? If so, why didn’t he/she ask tough questions?
When the CAB met with the Police Chief Candidate recently, very few tough or substantive questions were raised. “It was a very fluffy interview. Tough questions were not asked,” were among some of the comments made by one of the individuals in attendance that I spoke with.
Was your source one of the members of the CAB? If so, why didn’t he/she ask tough questions?
Apparently they did and got cold stares.
Apparently they did and got cold stares.
Apparently they did and got cold stares.
Apparently they did and got cold stares.
We all hope that the new Police Chief(if we ever get one) will bring new and effective leadership. The issues certainly have been made abundantly clear and if they are left to fester, the competence of our city manager and his selection for Police Chief certainly will be open to question. Ombudsman Aaronson needs to be given cases to investigate. Looking for “See,I told you so!”,in the reports and news articles, from either side of this issue will not help advance the process.
We all hope that the new Police Chief(if we ever get one) will bring new and effective leadership. The issues certainly have been made abundantly clear and if they are left to fester, the competence of our city manager and his selection for Police Chief certainly will be open to question. Ombudsman Aaronson needs to be given cases to investigate. Looking for “See,I told you so!”,in the reports and news articles, from either side of this issue will not help advance the process.
We all hope that the new Police Chief(if we ever get one) will bring new and effective leadership. The issues certainly have been made abundantly clear and if they are left to fester, the competence of our city manager and his selection for Police Chief certainly will be open to question. Ombudsman Aaronson needs to be given cases to investigate. Looking for “See,I told you so!”,in the reports and news articles, from either side of this issue will not help advance the process.
We all hope that the new Police Chief(if we ever get one) will bring new and effective leadership. The issues certainly have been made abundantly clear and if they are left to fester, the competence of our city manager and his selection for Police Chief certainly will be open to question. Ombudsman Aaronson needs to be given cases to investigate. Looking for “See,I told you so!”,in the reports and news articles, from either side of this issue will not help advance the process.
I spoke with several of the CAB members who attended the meeting with police chief candidate Landy Black. It was told to me that although several members did mention problems about police misconduct and concerns in the community about both racial profiling and “phishing” most of the members spoke about the weather, sports or topics totally unrelated to their function as a group or their purpose in meeting Mr. Black. Many members said nothing at all other than to exchange pleasantries. The group has from its inception, with a few exceptions, been nothing much more than a clique of status quo police boosters. And by meeting in secret they are not accountable to anyone including the community they are portrayed to represent.
Finally, Mr. Black’s responses were nothing more than scripted bureaucratic answers delivered in a robotic manner devoid of any specific substance. Evidently, most members of the CAB felt that was sufficient.
I spoke with several of the CAB members who attended the meeting with police chief candidate Landy Black. It was told to me that although several members did mention problems about police misconduct and concerns in the community about both racial profiling and “phishing” most of the members spoke about the weather, sports or topics totally unrelated to their function as a group or their purpose in meeting Mr. Black. Many members said nothing at all other than to exchange pleasantries. The group has from its inception, with a few exceptions, been nothing much more than a clique of status quo police boosters. And by meeting in secret they are not accountable to anyone including the community they are portrayed to represent.
Finally, Mr. Black’s responses were nothing more than scripted bureaucratic answers delivered in a robotic manner devoid of any specific substance. Evidently, most members of the CAB felt that was sufficient.
I spoke with several of the CAB members who attended the meeting with police chief candidate Landy Black. It was told to me that although several members did mention problems about police misconduct and concerns in the community about both racial profiling and “phishing” most of the members spoke about the weather, sports or topics totally unrelated to their function as a group or their purpose in meeting Mr. Black. Many members said nothing at all other than to exchange pleasantries. The group has from its inception, with a few exceptions, been nothing much more than a clique of status quo police boosters. And by meeting in secret they are not accountable to anyone including the community they are portrayed to represent.
Finally, Mr. Black’s responses were nothing more than scripted bureaucratic answers delivered in a robotic manner devoid of any specific substance. Evidently, most members of the CAB felt that was sufficient.
I spoke with several of the CAB members who attended the meeting with police chief candidate Landy Black. It was told to me that although several members did mention problems about police misconduct and concerns in the community about both racial profiling and “phishing” most of the members spoke about the weather, sports or topics totally unrelated to their function as a group or their purpose in meeting Mr. Black. Many members said nothing at all other than to exchange pleasantries. The group has from its inception, with a few exceptions, been nothing much more than a clique of status quo police boosters. And by meeting in secret they are not accountable to anyone including the community they are portrayed to represent.
Finally, Mr. Black’s responses were nothing more than scripted bureaucratic answers delivered in a robotic manner devoid of any specific substance. Evidently, most members of the CAB felt that was sufficient.
The “interview” by the CAB sounds like a “meet & greet” rather than an interview.
Aaronson’s article mentioned that the CAB discussed the drug testing of children in our community by the police department as part of its diversion program. !!! I have heard nothing about this. The PTAs have heard nothing about this. Did the CAB give their blessing? If so, they need to all be fired.
The “interview” by the CAB sounds like a “meet & greet” rather than an interview.
Aaronson’s article mentioned that the CAB discussed the drug testing of children in our community by the police department as part of its diversion program. !!! I have heard nothing about this. The PTAs have heard nothing about this. Did the CAB give their blessing? If so, they need to all be fired.
The “interview” by the CAB sounds like a “meet & greet” rather than an interview.
Aaronson’s article mentioned that the CAB discussed the drug testing of children in our community by the police department as part of its diversion program. !!! I have heard nothing about this. The PTAs have heard nothing about this. Did the CAB give their blessing? If so, they need to all be fired.
The “interview” by the CAB sounds like a “meet & greet” rather than an interview.
Aaronson’s article mentioned that the CAB discussed the drug testing of children in our community by the police department as part of its diversion program. !!! I have heard nothing about this. The PTAs have heard nothing about this. Did the CAB give their blessing? If so, they need to all be fired.
Here’s the exact quote from the report:
“The Interim Chief has found this group to be effective as a sounding board for ideas. For example, the Police Department is exploring the idea of including drug testing in its youth diversion program. The CAB listened to the proposal and provided feedback on when and under what circumstances they felt drug testing should be used in this program. They also shared their concerns about the proposal. In addition, the CAB heard a presentation from the Youth Intervention Specialist and provided feedback on the program and its long-term direction. The input of and feedback from the CAB provide the Police Department with a rich and diverse set of ideas.”
What the hell? As I’ve said before there is no advocate for youth on the CAB. The community has heard absolutely nothing about this. What were the diverse opinions? Where is the legal representation for youth? Where does the Court stand on this? Can the test results be used as a basis for formal charges against the youth, i.e. evidence? What are the sanctions for positive tests and who decides what they will be, a police officer, the parents?
The CAB is a complete failure in my mind as a piece of police oversight. The Police Chief can for an advisory committe with “handlers” from the community for himself, but don’t describe this group as an official part of police oversight. The School Superintendent has a parent advisory committe, but the members are appointed by the PTAs at each school sight – they send their own representatives (two from each school) – and return to their schools with an update each month after each meeting. The meetings also can be attended by anyone who is truely interested. The CAB is a sham.
Here’s the exact quote from the report:
“The Interim Chief has found this group to be effective as a sounding board for ideas. For example, the Police Department is exploring the idea of including drug testing in its youth diversion program. The CAB listened to the proposal and provided feedback on when and under what circumstances they felt drug testing should be used in this program. They also shared their concerns about the proposal. In addition, the CAB heard a presentation from the Youth Intervention Specialist and provided feedback on the program and its long-term direction. The input of and feedback from the CAB provide the Police Department with a rich and diverse set of ideas.”
What the hell? As I’ve said before there is no advocate for youth on the CAB. The community has heard absolutely nothing about this. What were the diverse opinions? Where is the legal representation for youth? Where does the Court stand on this? Can the test results be used as a basis for formal charges against the youth, i.e. evidence? What are the sanctions for positive tests and who decides what they will be, a police officer, the parents?
The CAB is a complete failure in my mind as a piece of police oversight. The Police Chief can for an advisory committe with “handlers” from the community for himself, but don’t describe this group as an official part of police oversight. The School Superintendent has a parent advisory committe, but the members are appointed by the PTAs at each school sight – they send their own representatives (two from each school) – and return to their schools with an update each month after each meeting. The meetings also can be attended by anyone who is truely interested. The CAB is a sham.
Here’s the exact quote from the report:
“The Interim Chief has found this group to be effective as a sounding board for ideas. For example, the Police Department is exploring the idea of including drug testing in its youth diversion program. The CAB listened to the proposal and provided feedback on when and under what circumstances they felt drug testing should be used in this program. They also shared their concerns about the proposal. In addition, the CAB heard a presentation from the Youth Intervention Specialist and provided feedback on the program and its long-term direction. The input of and feedback from the CAB provide the Police Department with a rich and diverse set of ideas.”
What the hell? As I’ve said before there is no advocate for youth on the CAB. The community has heard absolutely nothing about this. What were the diverse opinions? Where is the legal representation for youth? Where does the Court stand on this? Can the test results be used as a basis for formal charges against the youth, i.e. evidence? What are the sanctions for positive tests and who decides what they will be, a police officer, the parents?
The CAB is a complete failure in my mind as a piece of police oversight. The Police Chief can for an advisory committe with “handlers” from the community for himself, but don’t describe this group as an official part of police oversight. The School Superintendent has a parent advisory committe, but the members are appointed by the PTAs at each school sight – they send their own representatives (two from each school) – and return to their schools with an update each month after each meeting. The meetings also can be attended by anyone who is truely interested. The CAB is a sham.
Here’s the exact quote from the report:
“The Interim Chief has found this group to be effective as a sounding board for ideas. For example, the Police Department is exploring the idea of including drug testing in its youth diversion program. The CAB listened to the proposal and provided feedback on when and under what circumstances they felt drug testing should be used in this program. They also shared their concerns about the proposal. In addition, the CAB heard a presentation from the Youth Intervention Specialist and provided feedback on the program and its long-term direction. The input of and feedback from the CAB provide the Police Department with a rich and diverse set of ideas.”
What the hell? As I’ve said before there is no advocate for youth on the CAB. The community has heard absolutely nothing about this. What were the diverse opinions? Where is the legal representation for youth? Where does the Court stand on this? Can the test results be used as a basis for formal charges against the youth, i.e. evidence? What are the sanctions for positive tests and who decides what they will be, a police officer, the parents?
The CAB is a complete failure in my mind as a piece of police oversight. The Police Chief can for an advisory committe with “handlers” from the community for himself, but don’t describe this group as an official part of police oversight. The School Superintendent has a parent advisory committe, but the members are appointed by the PTAs at each school sight – they send their own representatives (two from each school) – and return to their schools with an update each month after each meeting. The meetings also can be attended by anyone who is truely interested. The CAB is a sham.
“It was told to me that although several members did mention problems about police misconduct and concerns in the community about both racial profiling and “phishing” most of the members spoke about the weather, sports or topics totally unrelated to their function as a group or their purpose in meeting Mr. Black.”
Why should anyone believe this comment? It is not only unattributed; it is posted by someone who posts anonymously. Have some courage, my man. Put your name to your words when you are attacking other people. And give us the name of the person who told you about the CAB.
“It was told to me that although several members did mention problems about police misconduct and concerns in the community about both racial profiling and “phishing” most of the members spoke about the weather, sports or topics totally unrelated to their function as a group or their purpose in meeting Mr. Black.”
Why should anyone believe this comment? It is not only unattributed; it is posted by someone who posts anonymously. Have some courage, my man. Put your name to your words when you are attacking other people. And give us the name of the person who told you about the CAB.
“It was told to me that although several members did mention problems about police misconduct and concerns in the community about both racial profiling and “phishing” most of the members spoke about the weather, sports or topics totally unrelated to their function as a group or their purpose in meeting Mr. Black.”
Why should anyone believe this comment? It is not only unattributed; it is posted by someone who posts anonymously. Have some courage, my man. Put your name to your words when you are attacking other people. And give us the name of the person who told you about the CAB.
“It was told to me that although several members did mention problems about police misconduct and concerns in the community about both racial profiling and “phishing” most of the members spoke about the weather, sports or topics totally unrelated to their function as a group or their purpose in meeting Mr. Black.”
Why should anyone believe this comment? It is not only unattributed; it is posted by someone who posts anonymously. Have some courage, my man. Put your name to your words when you are attacking other people. And give us the name of the person who told you about the CAB.
This is what I was told as well by members of the CAB. I don’t know who posted the comment, but I can vouch for its accuracy.
This is what I was told as well by members of the CAB. I don’t know who posted the comment, but I can vouch for its accuracy.
This is what I was told as well by members of the CAB. I don’t know who posted the comment, but I can vouch for its accuracy.
This is what I was told as well by members of the CAB. I don’t know who posted the comment, but I can vouch for its accuracy.
The groups created by the city staff in collaboration with the police department appear designed to be ineffective as a civilian oversight structure and will be revealed as such if and when our ombudsman brings some “heat” to a future incident. This will inexorably(and perhaps painfully for our city) play itself out.
The groups created by the city staff in collaboration with the police department appear designed to be ineffective as a civilian oversight structure and will be revealed as such if and when our ombudsman brings some “heat” to a future incident. This will inexorably(and perhaps painfully for our city) play itself out.
The groups created by the city staff in collaboration with the police department appear designed to be ineffective as a civilian oversight structure and will be revealed as such if and when our ombudsman brings some “heat” to a future incident. This will inexorably(and perhaps painfully for our city) play itself out.
The groups created by the city staff in collaboration with the police department appear designed to be ineffective as a civilian oversight structure and will be revealed as such if and when our ombudsman brings some “heat” to a future incident. This will inexorably(and perhaps painfully for our city) play itself out.
We live in a democracy. Why the closed CAB and PAC meetings? What is there to hide? They should seek public input both positive and perhaps criticisms that may come their way as well.
I’ve always been reluctant to give my trust to a system that is shut off to the public. Are you telling me that the members of the CAB communicate with a good proportion of the 60,000+ members of the Davis community? Enough to give concerns and positive feedback to the CAB and PAC?
Closed meetings only lead to one thing: mistrust.
In a community that prides itself on process and communication, the PAC and CAB – with the anointing of the council majority and city manager Bill Emlen – have failed us dearly.
We live in a democracy. Why the closed CAB and PAC meetings? What is there to hide? They should seek public input both positive and perhaps criticisms that may come their way as well.
I’ve always been reluctant to give my trust to a system that is shut off to the public. Are you telling me that the members of the CAB communicate with a good proportion of the 60,000+ members of the Davis community? Enough to give concerns and positive feedback to the CAB and PAC?
Closed meetings only lead to one thing: mistrust.
In a community that prides itself on process and communication, the PAC and CAB – with the anointing of the council majority and city manager Bill Emlen – have failed us dearly.
We live in a democracy. Why the closed CAB and PAC meetings? What is there to hide? They should seek public input both positive and perhaps criticisms that may come their way as well.
I’ve always been reluctant to give my trust to a system that is shut off to the public. Are you telling me that the members of the CAB communicate with a good proportion of the 60,000+ members of the Davis community? Enough to give concerns and positive feedback to the CAB and PAC?
Closed meetings only lead to one thing: mistrust.
In a community that prides itself on process and communication, the PAC and CAB – with the anointing of the council majority and city manager Bill Emlen – have failed us dearly.
We live in a democracy. Why the closed CAB and PAC meetings? What is there to hide? They should seek public input both positive and perhaps criticisms that may come their way as well.
I’ve always been reluctant to give my trust to a system that is shut off to the public. Are you telling me that the members of the CAB communicate with a good proportion of the 60,000+ members of the Davis community? Enough to give concerns and positive feedback to the CAB and PAC?
Closed meetings only lead to one thing: mistrust.
In a community that prides itself on process and communication, the PAC and CAB – with the anointing of the council majority and city manager Bill Emlen – have failed us dearly.
I am glad to see Davis is making some progress on police oversight – it is about time!
As I read the document, it is clear that the PAC and the Ombudsman are making more progress than the CAB. The CAB seems to be too large of an organization (cumbersome) to accomplish anything. The CAB is supposed to be a conduit of information between the public and the police. I have no sense that any of that is happening.
What oversight is missing?
Now there are three different forms of Police oversight, but there should be four. What is the City Manager doing? The reason more oversight has been required is that the City Manager position has not accepted the responsibility of managing the Police Department. This is not a meant as criticism toward the current City Manager. However, the Police Department has more people than any other department in the city and therefore the City Manager should be providing significant oversight. It is not good enough to simply hire a Police Chief and then walk away. I want to hear the City Manager plans to contribute to the overall oversight plan.
How could oversight communication be improved?
Throughout Mr. Aaronson’s letter he stressed the importance of communication. He said, “the community has missed opportunities to begin a meaningful dialogue around law enforcement issues”. I think Mr. Aaronson missed an opportunity to expand communication as he glossed over problem areas.
The second operational challenge “is the need for quality leadership that uniformly holds people accountable” and “it does appear that the turnover of staff, and particularly in chiefs, has undermined the organization’s supervisory chain of command. By all reports, these problems pre-existed the Byzayan incident” These comments seem very important, but there is no follow-up. If you want better communication, then step forward and in a straightforward manner explain to us what is on your mind. We want to know what you think?
Based on observation, Mr. Aaronson mentioned there were some things that prompted concerns. What were the things that prompted those concerns? Also when the concerns were taken up the chain of command, what was the resolution? This does need to be a review of individual officers; we just want to know what types of specific behavior concern you?
On the issue of reviewing “various video recordings of police activities, both captured by the Department and by private citizens” – have you reached any conclusions?SAH
I am glad to see Davis is making some progress on police oversight – it is about time!
As I read the document, it is clear that the PAC and the Ombudsman are making more progress than the CAB. The CAB seems to be too large of an organization (cumbersome) to accomplish anything. The CAB is supposed to be a conduit of information between the public and the police. I have no sense that any of that is happening.
What oversight is missing?
Now there are three different forms of Police oversight, but there should be four. What is the City Manager doing? The reason more oversight has been required is that the City Manager position has not accepted the responsibility of managing the Police Department. This is not a meant as criticism toward the current City Manager. However, the Police Department has more people than any other department in the city and therefore the City Manager should be providing significant oversight. It is not good enough to simply hire a Police Chief and then walk away. I want to hear the City Manager plans to contribute to the overall oversight plan.
How could oversight communication be improved?
Throughout Mr. Aaronson’s letter he stressed the importance of communication. He said, “the community has missed opportunities to begin a meaningful dialogue around law enforcement issues”. I think Mr. Aaronson missed an opportunity to expand communication as he glossed over problem areas.
The second operational challenge “is the need for quality leadership that uniformly holds people accountable” and “it does appear that the turnover of staff, and particularly in chiefs, has undermined the organization’s supervisory chain of command. By all reports, these problems pre-existed the Byzayan incident” These comments seem very important, but there is no follow-up. If you want better communication, then step forward and in a straightforward manner explain to us what is on your mind. We want to know what you think?
Based on observation, Mr. Aaronson mentioned there were some things that prompted concerns. What were the things that prompted those concerns? Also when the concerns were taken up the chain of command, what was the resolution? This does need to be a review of individual officers; we just want to know what types of specific behavior concern you?
On the issue of reviewing “various video recordings of police activities, both captured by the Department and by private citizens” – have you reached any conclusions?SAH
I am glad to see Davis is making some progress on police oversight – it is about time!
As I read the document, it is clear that the PAC and the Ombudsman are making more progress than the CAB. The CAB seems to be too large of an organization (cumbersome) to accomplish anything. The CAB is supposed to be a conduit of information between the public and the police. I have no sense that any of that is happening.
What oversight is missing?
Now there are three different forms of Police oversight, but there should be four. What is the City Manager doing? The reason more oversight has been required is that the City Manager position has not accepted the responsibility of managing the Police Department. This is not a meant as criticism toward the current City Manager. However, the Police Department has more people than any other department in the city and therefore the City Manager should be providing significant oversight. It is not good enough to simply hire a Police Chief and then walk away. I want to hear the City Manager plans to contribute to the overall oversight plan.
How could oversight communication be improved?
Throughout Mr. Aaronson’s letter he stressed the importance of communication. He said, “the community has missed opportunities to begin a meaningful dialogue around law enforcement issues”. I think Mr. Aaronson missed an opportunity to expand communication as he glossed over problem areas.
The second operational challenge “is the need for quality leadership that uniformly holds people accountable” and “it does appear that the turnover of staff, and particularly in chiefs, has undermined the organization’s supervisory chain of command. By all reports, these problems pre-existed the Byzayan incident” These comments seem very important, but there is no follow-up. If you want better communication, then step forward and in a straightforward manner explain to us what is on your mind. We want to know what you think?
Based on observation, Mr. Aaronson mentioned there were some things that prompted concerns. What were the things that prompted those concerns? Also when the concerns were taken up the chain of command, what was the resolution? This does need to be a review of individual officers; we just want to know what types of specific behavior concern you?
On the issue of reviewing “various video recordings of police activities, both captured by the Department and by private citizens” – have you reached any conclusions?SAH
I am glad to see Davis is making some progress on police oversight – it is about time!
As I read the document, it is clear that the PAC and the Ombudsman are making more progress than the CAB. The CAB seems to be too large of an organization (cumbersome) to accomplish anything. The CAB is supposed to be a conduit of information between the public and the police. I have no sense that any of that is happening.
What oversight is missing?
Now there are three different forms of Police oversight, but there should be four. What is the City Manager doing? The reason more oversight has been required is that the City Manager position has not accepted the responsibility of managing the Police Department. This is not a meant as criticism toward the current City Manager. However, the Police Department has more people than any other department in the city and therefore the City Manager should be providing significant oversight. It is not good enough to simply hire a Police Chief and then walk away. I want to hear the City Manager plans to contribute to the overall oversight plan.
How could oversight communication be improved?
Throughout Mr. Aaronson’s letter he stressed the importance of communication. He said, “the community has missed opportunities to begin a meaningful dialogue around law enforcement issues”. I think Mr. Aaronson missed an opportunity to expand communication as he glossed over problem areas.
The second operational challenge “is the need for quality leadership that uniformly holds people accountable” and “it does appear that the turnover of staff, and particularly in chiefs, has undermined the organization’s supervisory chain of command. By all reports, these problems pre-existed the Byzayan incident” These comments seem very important, but there is no follow-up. If you want better communication, then step forward and in a straightforward manner explain to us what is on your mind. We want to know what you think?
Based on observation, Mr. Aaronson mentioned there were some things that prompted concerns. What were the things that prompted those concerns? Also when the concerns were taken up the chain of command, what was the resolution? This does need to be a review of individual officers; we just want to know what types of specific behavior concern you?
On the issue of reviewing “various video recordings of police activities, both captured by the Department and by private citizens” – have you reached any conclusions?SAH
the city is facing litigation over the Buzayan case
so, my guess is that the city, on the advice of counsel, is doing two things:
(1) creating the appearance of a process that will increase public accountability
(2) while, simultaneously, implementing procedures that will actually reduce public input and the prospect that records and statements will be generated that could imperil the city legally in the Buzayan case and future cases
one should assume that the city has hired a police chief and ombudsperson that are agreeable with this approach, and have some experience with it
from the city’s perspective, Black may be considered an improvement over Hyde, because Hyde was a bit of a loose cannon with a tendency to say and do things that caused political and legal problems
–Richard Estes
the city is facing litigation over the Buzayan case
so, my guess is that the city, on the advice of counsel, is doing two things:
(1) creating the appearance of a process that will increase public accountability
(2) while, simultaneously, implementing procedures that will actually reduce public input and the prospect that records and statements will be generated that could imperil the city legally in the Buzayan case and future cases
one should assume that the city has hired a police chief and ombudsperson that are agreeable with this approach, and have some experience with it
from the city’s perspective, Black may be considered an improvement over Hyde, because Hyde was a bit of a loose cannon with a tendency to say and do things that caused political and legal problems
–Richard Estes
the city is facing litigation over the Buzayan case
so, my guess is that the city, on the advice of counsel, is doing two things:
(1) creating the appearance of a process that will increase public accountability
(2) while, simultaneously, implementing procedures that will actually reduce public input and the prospect that records and statements will be generated that could imperil the city legally in the Buzayan case and future cases
one should assume that the city has hired a police chief and ombudsperson that are agreeable with this approach, and have some experience with it
from the city’s perspective, Black may be considered an improvement over Hyde, because Hyde was a bit of a loose cannon with a tendency to say and do things that caused political and legal problems
–Richard Estes
the city is facing litigation over the Buzayan case
so, my guess is that the city, on the advice of counsel, is doing two things:
(1) creating the appearance of a process that will increase public accountability
(2) while, simultaneously, implementing procedures that will actually reduce public input and the prospect that records and statements will be generated that could imperil the city legally in the Buzayan case and future cases
one should assume that the city has hired a police chief and ombudsperson that are agreeable with this approach, and have some experience with it
from the city’s perspective, Black may be considered an improvement over Hyde, because Hyde was a bit of a loose cannon with a tendency to say and do things that caused political and legal problems
–Richard Estes