LAPD Filmed Beating Celebs, Veterans, Black Store Owners

Photo by Richard Grant (@richardgrant88)

By Metyia Phillips

LOS ANGELES, CA – Police officers across LA are intentionally attacking and hurting police brutality protesters—and that includes Hollywood celebrities, military veterans and even store owners who are Black.

In the wake of George Floyd’s death, there have been protests across the city of Los Angeles. And in various locations across the city police officers have been filmed beating protesters and attacking them.

Many of the incidents have been recorded and shared on Twitter to show the harmful actions of police on their effects on protesters during the protests.

One of the videos that was shared showed officers beating Kendrick Sampson, an actor from Vampire Diaries, The Flash, How To Get Away With Murder and HBO’s Insecure.

He said he was hit four times by rubber bullets and then beaten by police Los Angeles Police Dept. officers with batons. Before LAPD got involved, he said it was a peaceful protest.

“Y’all ain’t see no police f—ing up white folks when they took guns to the statehouse,” the actor told news media, referring to an incident in Michigan over coronavirus restrictions, not in California.

“Y’all didn’t see police attacking white folks, beating ‘em up with batons, shooting them with rubber bullets when they brought guns to f—ing state houses. We came up here with no weapons, with masks.… And we’re the ones who are not peaceful,” he said.

Not only has LAPD been targeting celebrities, but they’ve also been targeting peaceful protesters in general. A video was filed where officers were beating several unarmed and peaceful protesters with their batons, while other officers also shot at them at close range. Once again, the protests were peaceful before LAPD started beating protesters and shooting at them.

One video showed police officers injuring a U.S. Marine Corps (USMC) veteran because they shot at him for fun. The USMC veteran took a video from his hospital bed and explained he has a brain bleed and is in the hospital trying to recover from his injuries.

He seemingly jokingly said, “if I don’t respond it’s because I’m so tired and trying to recover.”

LAPD officers have also been making use of tear gas and tear gas canisters to punish protesters.

A picture that was shared shows an officer pointing a tear gas canister at a man at very close range, with less than a foot in between them. The man also had a child on his shoulders, which the officer could clearly see, but it didn’t stop him from lining up the man and child in his sights.

Another video shows officers shooting at men who were yards away from them. The men were just standing and talking, not doing anything to harm anyone, posing no threat to the police, or even peacefully protesting. They were just talking. For no reason, other than for seemed to be fun, police started to shoot at them.

Not only have officers been beating and shooting at peaceful protesters, but they also arrested Black store owners who called the police for help because their store was looted.

The video shows the store owners being pushed against a wall and being handcuffed because they asked for help after their store was looted.

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68 Comments

    1. John Hobbs

      And doing their evil in our names and on our dime.  Like I keep telling you, the most dangerous gang in America, working to protect the rich and suppress any other interests by any means necessary.

      We pay ’em, we arm ’em now we’re going to have to fight to take them down before they end any hope of freedom for all.

    2. Dave Hart

      The role of the police is confusing if you listen to what they (our political institutions that created and fund them and “reform” them) say about themselves.  Protect and serve.  Maybe what we don’t understand is who they protect and serve.  Could it be to protect and serve Private Property (not necessarily small property owners) of the ruling elite and their institutions of courts, laws and social order that maintain their power?  Seen in that light, the behavior of the police is what we should expect.  It’s also why reform will, of necessity, be ineffective.  All the problems we decry about the police are created and tolerated by most of us to the extent we ally ourselves with that ruling elite hoping that what is good for them will trickle down to us; or, that we will somehow share in their good fortune which is only possible because the dreaded forces of chaos (labor unions, minorities, indigenous people, environmentalists, muckraking journalists, unemployed, unemployable, people of conscience) are kept at bay by the shield of the thin blue line.

  1. Keith Olsen

    Being with the violence we’ve seen the last few weeks where the protests have often turned into riots why would pregnant mother to be or anyone ever bring their children into one of these battle zones?

    1. Jeff Boone

      Good question.

      I think the answer is to harvest videos and images that the radicals can provide DNCNN so DNCNN can generate click-bait to make money while the radical progress their agenda.

      All terrorists use this same tactic.  Do their dirty work behind the facade of protected victims so when law enforcement does the job that their Democrat politicians direct them to do, they can get those media bits and then their army of political-chattering class bots can utilize the talking points.  It is all manufactured chaos to feed the broken psychological needs of those still upset about 2016

      1. David Greenwald

        Be nice if credit was given. An attorney in North Carolina, Greg Doucette has curated at least 600 videos of police violence. (FWIW, he’s a self-described conservative). When we learned about it, I assigned the reporting of it to five of our interns. In fact, in contrast to your comment, I would argue journalism’s systematic failure to report on police violence has fueled the continuation of this violence.

      2. Don Shor

        All terrorists use this same tactic.

        The protesters are not terrorists.

        Do their dirty work behind the facade of protected victims

        There are no “protected victims” here.

        so when law enforcement does the job

        The way police officers are doing their jobs is the problem

        that their Democrat politicians direct them to do,

        No Democratic politicians are telling the police officers to do the things you see in the videos.

        they can get those media bits and then their army of political-chattering class bots can utilize the talking points.

        This is raw footage from demonstrations all over the country. These aren’t “talking points.” The issue of police brutality is real and well-documented. That’s the point of this article.

        It is all manufactured chaos

        There is no evidence that the outcomes at these protests are manufactured. It is the police behavior that is in question. Whether that is random or systemic is a reasonable debate. The suggestion that it is manufactured by the demonstrators is spurious.

        to feed the broken psychological needs of those still upset about 2016

        And we get the usual condescending nonsense.

        The issue is the behavior of police officers in dealing with demonstrations.

        1. Jeff Boone

          Terrorist definition: “a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.”

          And the terrorists are aided and abetted by useful fools and those with aligning agendas.

          1. David Greenwald

            Missing in all of this is the fact that the looting has stopped, the protests have continued, and the police abuse has also continued.

        2. Jeff Boone

          The issue of police brutality is real and well-documented

          You mean a small number of incidents have been well-exploited in the media for money and for politics.

          There is no scientific evidence today that police are what the terrorists claim they are.

          There is copious evidence that the black community is broken.

          BLM raked in tens of millions that was all directed to the Biden campaign.  DNCNN had their best month in a long tome covering the riots and looting.

          There is copious evidence that the Democrats and the media benefit from a continued broken black community.

          1. Don Shor

            BLM raked in tens of millions that was all directed to the Biden campaign.

            This is false.

        3. Bill Marshall

          Jeff… be honest in respect to how ‘history’ recounts things…

          I see the looters and vandals as ‘opportunists’… I feel no ‘terror’.

          Depending on “who wins” history may class something/someone as ‘terrorist’, or ‘patriot’ (think Concord Bridge… Brits thought ‘terrorists’, who didn’t ‘play fair’ as they were hiding behind stone walls and copses…).

          Key thing, IMNSHO… violence, looting, vandalism is not inherently justified, logical, human (except for the baser instincts), or ultimately, productive…

          Yet, violence might be necessary… you try and hurt my spouse or kids (maybe even Clockwork Orange uber-violence), and I’ll show you violence in real time… looting, never… vandalism never… just the way I’m wired… a visceral thing, not cognitive, nor moral thingy…

        4. Jeff Boone

          BLM raked in tens of millions that was all directed to the Biden campaign.

          This is false.

          Sorry.  It is not false.

          ActBlue is a nonprofit technology organization established in June 2004 that enables Democrats, progressive groups, and left-leaning nonprofits to raise money on the Internet by providing them with online fundraising software. Its stated mission is to “empower small-dollar donors”.[1]

          https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/expenditures.php?cycle=2020&cmte=C00401224

          ActBlue executives are making some very big bucks.

          1. Don Shor

            Your statement that the money given to BLM was “all directed to the Biden campaign” is categorically, absolutely false.

        5. Jeff Boone

          Jeff… be honest in respect to how ‘history’ recounts things…

          I see the looters and vandals as ‘opportunists’… I feel no ‘terror’.

          I was referring to the anarchist fascist that label themselves ANTIFA.

          I do agree that much of what we have seen is just opportunists that were revved up to maximum energy from having the economy shutdown and being forced to shelter in place.   I have lost respect for the medical science community as a result of all of this.  I believe they are culpable for the destruction as they made the fear-based rules that led to shot owners being jailed for failing to comply, but then came out and supported the protests that the rioters and looters fed into.

          The anarchist fascists are both tacitly and explicitly supported by the Democrats in charge.  Just look at Seattle.  The Democrats thus are supporting terrorism… as they believe it serves their political goals.  The media too supports it.  CNN had their biggest viewership months since the riots started.

          I think we need to be honest about that.

          1. David Greenwald

            U.S. assessment finds opportunists drive protest violence, not extremists (link )

            Little Evidence of Antifa Links in US Prosecutions of Those Charged in Protest Violence (link )

            Federal Arrests Show No Sign That Antifa Plotted Protests: “Despite claims by President Trump and Attorney General William P. Barr, there is scant evidence that loosely organized anti-fascists are a significant player in protests.” (Link)

        6. Jeff Boone

          Your statement that the money given to BLM was “all directed to the Biden campaign” is categorically, absolutely false.

          How about this?

          BLM donations are almost entirely directed toward Democrat interests including large donations to the Biden campaign.

          Apparently you will make a career out of defending against the use of the word “all”.

          1. Don Shor

            This is also not true.
            BLM and nearly every Democratic presidential candidate, along with hundreds of other campaigns and organizations, use the ACTBlue donation platform. That’s all they have in common. I do realize some right-wing commentators are making a big deal of this, striving to show a connection that isn’t there.
            To illustrate the actual process, this is from factcheck.org:

            “ActBlue lets candidates and liberal nonprofit organizations set up their separate accounts,” Michael Malbin, director of the nonpartisan Campaign Finance Institute, told us in a phone interview. “There’s no crossing from one account to another. If you give the money to Sanders, it does not go to Biden.”

            If you give money to BLM, it does not go to Biden via ACTBlue, either.
            Do you have evidence of where BLM money is going? You’ve made incorrect assertions, doubled down on it, tripled down on it, changed what you were asserting, and nevertheless made another unproven (and likely false) assertion.
            https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/donations-to-black-lives-matter-group-dont-go-to-dnc/

        7. Jeff Boone

          This is also not true.

          I see you have painted yourself into a corner and are working hard to never have to admit that you stepped into it.

          You are arguing points without distinction.  ActBlue is a non-profit where ALL their donations go to Democrat campaigns and causes.  Of course BLM money is directed to Biden.  Do you think it is directed to Trump?

          Your “this is not true” is patently false as you have no proof… and common sense prevails.

          1. Don Shor

            I see you have painted yourself into a corner and are working hard to never have to admit that you stepped into it.

            You are the one who keeps repeating falsehoods. Stop trying to deflect onto me what you are doing.

            You are arguing points without distinction. ActBlue is a non-profit where ALL their donations go to Democrat campaigns and causes. Of course BLM money is directed to Biden. Do you think it is directed to Trump?

            This is false. Again. And again.
            Just stop, Jeff. You are wrong on this topic.

        8. Ron Oertel

          Stop trying to deflect onto me what you are doing.

          “I know you are, but what am I.”

          This is false. Again. And again.
          Just stop, Jeff. You are wrong on this topic.

          I so love it when I’m not involved in these conversations.  Oh, wait – shut up, Ron!

          Now that I see it elsewhere, I realize that no one is paying attention much, when these things go on-and-on. (Except maybe for amusement. It’s always that guy – who then earns the wrath of both!) 😉

        9. John Hobbs

          “You are the one who keeps repeating falsehoods.”

          To be fair, he can’t help himself. He’s just following the path of his mendacious pumpkin-haired Messiah.

           

        10. Jeff Boone

          This is false. Again. And again.
          Just stop, Jeff. You are wrong on this topic.

          Here is what we do know:

          1. Don does not know if BLM donations through ActBlue go to Democrats candidates including Joe Biden.

          2. Jeff does not know if BLM donations through ActBlue go to Democrat candidates including Joe Biden.

          3. It is unclear WHERE BLM money actually goes… especially the ~$50 million raked in from the George Floyd incident.  What will they do with that money or have they done with that money?  Maybe they will donate it to Trump since he has done more for the black community than the previous administration.  Right.

          4. ActBlue has a state mission to support progressive and Democrat politics.

          5. ActBlue takes 3.95% in fees, so at $50MM of donation, that is $1,975,000 it can use to donate to anything it wants to.  And since its mission is progressive and Democrat politics, it is MORE than likely that some or a lot of this goes to Joe Biden.

          6. Opensecrets.com shows ActBlue spending almost $120 million on Joe Biden.  IN fact, their ~$1B in federal donations is their main use of funds… and almost all of it is going to 2020 Democrat presidential candidates.   Since Joe is da man now, clearly they will be ramping up donating to his campaign.   And Joe is the self-anointed black Presidential candidate.

          I guess the main problem is your claim that I am wrong without any evidence to back it up.  A more accurate claim would be that I don’t know and you don’t know… but you did not consider the fees as part of that BLM donation.  If BLM was not aligned with the Democrats and feeding the Democrat machine money, why not have their own donation platform?  Why use one 100% Democrat supporting?

      3. John Hobbs

        I have no idea what you mean by “DNCNN’ a term I use frequently in audio engineering and sound reproduction. I must assume that it is a Fox Noise misdirection. All terrorists do not use any such tactic, although cops certainly like intimidating those that they think cannot respond. The only “army of political-chattering class bots” belongs to Trump and his pal Putin. Since you have (predictably) used the popular Reich-wing tactic of false premises and we know you’re not a psychologist of any kind, I think we can dismiss this as another of your paranoid ramblings designed to comfort yourself and perhaps influence other weak minds.

        1. Ron Oertel

          Do blogs like this actually drive people further apart in their views (e.g., by enabling attacks and resulting defensiveness)?

          I think I answered my own question.

  2. Ron Oertel

    Can’t help but wonder what might happen if the four officers involved with Floyd’s death are not convicted under the maximum charges/sentences.

    I recall seeing a headline attributed to Kamala Harris, stating that it’s not a slam-dunk (something to that effect).

    1. David Greenwald

      Police officers almost never get convicted.  The acquittal of Rodney King of course led to pretty serious riots in 1992.  The officer who killed Philando Castille in 2016 in Minnesota was acquitted.  The officer who killed Laquan McDonald in Chicago was convicted.

      1. Bill Marshall

        Well, there was Dan White (police and military career, before his election as a Supervisor)… killed a Mayor and Supervisor as I recall (the supervisor was “openly gay”)… but using the “twinkie defense” only convicted of manslaughter, not 1st or 2nd degree murder… served 5 yrs of a 7 years sentence, was paroled, and, some would opine, did a moral thing a year or two after being released.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_White#Imprisonment_and_suicide

        But, he was convicted… he was guilty as hell… I remember the whole thing vividly… right around Jonestown, and Rev Jim, as I recall… both had elements of murder & suicide… really bad November, coming ~15 years after another horrible November… where I had to bid farewell to my grandfather, and a couple weeks later, to my President…

        Did White get a ‘pass’ based on being ex-military, ex-cop, or sitting SF Supervisor… I know not… but, in the end, some could reasonably opine, that justice was indeed served… but not at the hands of government…

        But, Dan White was a former cop who was convicted… maybe because he wasn’t paying police union’s dues at the time, he was treated more harshly (?)…

  3. Ron Oertel

    Does anyone remember this?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Malheur_National_Wildlife_Refuge

    Although armed, I suppose an argument could be made that if they were “left alone”, the result would have been peaceful.

    Then again, do you just let them take-over a wildlife refuge, indefinitely? (Or, on a related note as I recall, run cattle on federal lands without paying for it?)

    Then, there’s situations like the one in Waco, although children were also victims of that. Something about Ruby Ridge, as well. (Not as familiar with that.)

  4. Ron Oertel

    Don:  The way police officers are doing their jobs is the problem.

    Well, I’m kind of a BLM guy now, I think.  Took me awhile.

    No – not the chaos.

    What helped me was a comparison to the way that gay people suffered.  (Saw a reference to Stonewall, last night.) No, I’m not referring to anything regarding myself. (“Not that there’s anything wrong with that”, to paraphrase Seinfeld, I think.) 😉

    I’ve seen enough, to know that (for whatever reasons), black people are the primary recipients of law enforcement that’s overly-aggressive.

    It appears that we’ll see some changes, nationwide. Not sure how far those will go.

    1. Ron Oertel

      No response, thoughts?

      From what I can see, the “reason” doesn’t matter, if police are sometimes over-aggressive.

      As simple as that sounds, I didn’t quite see it that clearly, before.

      Reasons that one group disproportionately experiences the impact can be discussed/analyzed, but it’s almost a different topic. But, I don’t think that anyone can really argue that it doesn’t occur.

  5. Ron Glick

    “There is no scientific evidence today that police are what the terrorists claim they are.”

    Plenty of physical evidence.

    “There is copious evidence that the Democrats and the media benefit from a continued broken black community.”

    Because the Republicans haven’t done anything but demonize these people since Eisenhower as was recently observed by Stuart Spencer.

    “You mean a small number of incidents have been well-exploited in the media for money and for politics.”

    Blaming the victims in a game of beat the devil.

  6. Ron Glick

    I don’t think the man with the child on his shoulders is acting responsibly by bringing a child into that situation. Even if he didn’t anticipate the danger then not leaving to remove the child from the situation is also problematic.

  7. Ron Glick

    Is it any surprise that after years of Trump demonizing reporters that they are getting attacked?

    Is it any wonder after years of Trump saying its okay to rough up people and that cops don’t need to be nice when putting people into cars that people are rebelling against these attacks?

    The fish rots from the head down.

    There are good people on both sides.

  8. Ron Oertel

    Alan M.  “Nope.  No thoughts.”

    Jeff:  “There is copious evidence that the Democrats and the media benefit from a continued broken black community.”

    Ron G.’s response:  “Because the Republicans haven’t done anything but demonize these people since Eisenhower as was recently observed by Stuart Spencer.”

    How about any thoughts regarding these latter two statements?

    Thought I’d take on pot-stirring duties, today.

    I’m pretty sure that we’ll figure this all out, in this blog. 😉

      1. Ron Oertel

        Geez, lighten up.

        I was pointing out how intractable some (if not most) problems are, on a local blog.  Even entirely local problems, for that matter.

        Seems to me that the primary purpose of commenting in these articles is to allow commenters to express their own opinions, regardless of whether or not that’s useful on a broader level.

        The majority of your articles are “pot-stirring”, in the first place. Thought I’d give you an “assist”, today. 😉

        You’ve got two pretty controversial comments (that I quoted, above). One can probably write a whole series of articles regarding those comments alone, and never arrive at any definitive “conclusions”. But, you can “stir the pot” with them.

        And, that’s not even touching the article above, itself.

      2. Ron Oertel

        I’d ask another question, as well.

        Do blogs like this actually drive people further apart in their views (e.g., by enabling attacks and resulting defensiveness)?

        For example, both of the comments I quoted above might be viewed as “insulting”, depending upon one’s point of view.  And yet, both might also have elements of truth.

        And yet, what have we learned from them?

        Now, we could also discuss what’s in your article, but one really has to ask themselves if it’s worth doing so, especially when considering the resulting conversation that one might get into. (Such as this one.) 😉

        We could start with that first photo, for example – but others have already made comments regarding that.

  9. Ron Glick

    Peter Wehner says it best in his piece yesterday:

    “Donald Trump’s supporters have been looking only at phantoms. There is still time for more of them to see the world as it is, to be dazzled by the sunlight, to live their lives in accord with truth. Plato knew that everybody would not make this choice. But everybody should.”

    Wehner served in three Republican administrations (Ronald ReaganGeorge H. W. BushGeorge W. Bush).[4] He was a speechwriter for Secretary of Education William Bennett before becoming Special Assistant to the Director at the Office of National Drug Control Policy.[6] Wehner was then Executive Director for Policy for Empower America, a conservative group[6] that was founded by Bennett, Jack Kemp, and Jeane Kirkpatrick.[7]

    1. Jeff Boone

      I am amazed at how people continue to accept this type of junk from the reliable actors within the media-political industrial establishment that Trump was elected to clean up.

      Peter Wehner is connected with the globalist big business Republicans.   The fact that he served with these leaders that are responsible for the disastrous policies that led to American exporting so much working-class prosperity to other countries while importing other country’s poverty… all to help reduce the cost of labor so there would be more corporate profit… eliminates every shred of credibility to accept any criticism of Trump.

      “Looking at Phantoms”   LOL.  Right.   No, educated Trump supporters are more enlightened about the real social and economic situation facing this country and how everything we see falling apart is the result of previous mistakes from the likes of Peter Wehner.

      1. David Greenwald

        “I am amazed at how people continue to accept this type of junk from the reliable actors within the media-political industrial establishment that Trump was elected to clean up.”

        LOL. That is literally the funniest line I have ever read from you.

      2. Ron Glick

        Wehner is more aligned with the Moral Majority part of the GOP than the capitalist free market globalization types. Of course Boone’s rhetoric raises the question of how protectionist he believes we should be. Return to Smoot-Hawley?

        1. Jeff Boone

          Of course Boone’s rhetoric raises the question of how protectionist he believes we should be. Return to Smoot-Hawley?

          I remain fascinated that I have to explain this.  It makes me wonder if those that need explaining don’t wander outside mainstream media to get their news.

          The globalist pursuit got its start during the Clinton Administration as the rest of the world noted the US invention of an entire new distributed computer and networked tech industry that would allow it to dominate the world economy for decades if not more.  Foreign governments wanted it and they would make many American politicians and big business owners wealthy beyond their dreams if they would only help make it so.  It really heated up about 2005 as our elite administrators connected with our elite big business leaders that, although they had different goals, aligned in their pursuits.  The administrators’ extra energy was in part a response to 9-11.  The broken mindset was that the elite ruling class can fix the world’s “problems” by spending more money and passing trade deals that basically gave away our hard-earned industrial, trade and technology assets for a peace pipe.  But the problems they thought they could fix are innate human nature and tribalism… fundamental things that our founders understood, but elite academics that get into politics never seem to accept nor understand.   Big business does not care… they just want a bigger market and the cheap labor that outsourcing and immigration provides them.

          Small business starts that actually hire people started to decline.  Manufacturing left… it had been leaving earlier… but it accelerated… including the that for the new tech industry that the US invented.  In 2008 it all crashed as a result of other government mistakes of CRA, too low interest rates, Freddie, Fannie and the repeal of Glass Steagall.   In 2014 big business supplanted small business as the nation’s job creator  – for the first time in the nation’s history.

          And what did we get for all this?  A split society… the poor working class that wasn’t really working anymore combined with a growing population of poor under-class that require more government hand-outs.   And a burgeoning professional class service industry along with an expanding government of millionaire compensated public “servants”.

          The nation’s once common middle class came apart.

          We cut the bottom rungs off the prosperity ladder for Americans and gave them to Mexico, China and several other countries.  We endured other countries leveling large tariffs on us, while we opened our markets to them.  We stopped making things and started consuming a bunch of cheap Chinese products… many that we originally invented and made here.  Our trade deficits exploded.

          This all happened at the very time that our inner city minority population was poised to access the American dream.  The elites instead took it and spent on the liberal global new world order orgasm.

          Ask yourself… how does the average urban black child get access to a similar economic life-style as the typical Davis liberal professional?  There used to be a fine path other than the one that rewards academic gifts.  But the trades have had their wages smashed by immigration.  The factories are gone from outsourcing production to Mexico and China and other countries.  Elites have given the finger to American poor and working class and they have gone desperate to hide this by blaming cops, Trump and Trump supporters.   The sad thing is that the victims of all this seem to be supporting their continued destruction.    Or maybe not.  Maybe 2020 will demonstrate that they finally get it and send the elites packing.

          What do I think we need to do?  One good start would be to penalize companies that outsource production of products consumed in our country, and reward them for keeping the jobs here… especially if they set up shop in low economic areas.  Get rid of income tax and move to a national consumption tax (helping to offset the higher cost of labor).  Demand that all countries drop their tariffs on American products or we tax their products equitably.  Blow up the broken school system and reform it with a goal to build economic self sufficiency instead of all that “good citizen” BS (see how well that crap is working from the riots, etc.).  Stop importing millions of poor and uneducated people into the country every year.  Reform justice and law enforcement… including the dirty FBI.  And pass national reverse hate-crime law for anyone falsely accusing or claiming racism or other related identity politics crimes so they can be easily sued for damages.

          That would be a start.

        2. Ron Glick

          I love this tunnel vision of history. For example 52-55 Republicans in the Senate voted to pass the Gramm Leach Bliley Act that repealed portions of  Glass Steagall. 90 senators in total voted to pass it. On the house side 362 members voted yes including 207 Republicans. So more than 2/3 of both houses voted yes. As such it didn’t really matter if Clinton signed it or not. Unless you want to argue that Clinton should have died on that hill, forced an over ride vote, taken on Wall Street and the Federal Reserve Chairman Greenspan, who, eventually got on board with the legislation. While Gramm, Leach and Bliley retired and certainly Gramm made big bucks for services rendered in the furtherance of making the rich richer many Republicans who voted for it like Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Susan Collins, Chuck Grassley, Mike Crapo, Pat Roberts and Mike Enzi are still in the Senate today. Yet somehow this was a Democrat betrayal.

        3. Jeff Boone

          Ron – you have it wrong.  I am not singling out Democrats of the past for these mistakes.  Establishment Republicans supporting big business are also culprits.  It is the old political establishment.  Hell, Bush’s “ownership society” was a major contributor to the 2008 crash even as he was listening to some of his advisors and sounding alarms about the risk building in the real estate and financial sectors.

          But the Republicans have been forced to accept this new turn that those things were wrong.  Some are not… they are the old establishment types like Romney.  But the Democrats are 100% open borders and full on liberal global new world order.  That agenda is tearing middle American and the black urban community apart.

  10. Ron Glick

    “But the Democrats are 100% open borders and full on liberal global new world order.”

    Please stop parroting Fox News nonsense.

    And what has Trump done for these people? Pass a tax cut that favored the rich then couldn’t afford an infrastructure bill that would have put them to work.

    1. Jeff Boone

      Pass a tax cut that favored the rich then couldn’t afford an infrastructure bill that would have put them to work.

      Stop parroting CNN nonsense.  Tax receipts are up and Old Nancy and her band of spenders put billions of dollars of pork into each budget act and the pandemic bills that was NOT directed at infrastructure.  You are intellectually dishonest in you claim because I KNOW YOU KNOW if the Democrats would have supported an infrastructure spending bill the Senate would have approved something and Trump would have signed it.  The Democrats in old Nancy’s court would not let that happen because of politics.

      From 2009 to 2015, the incomes of black Americans fell by more than $900 per family adjusted for inflation.

      So far under Trump, median family incomes have risen by more than $1,000, according‎ to Sentier Research and based on Census Bureau numbers. These numbers are not broken down by race, but it’s a pretty good bet that black incomes have risen with those of other races under Trump.

          1. David Greenwald

            That’s my way of explaining why his post is going to be taken down at least in part…

        1. Jeff Boone

          Nowhere did you cite where your source was

          Got it.  Did not know that was the rule.  Also have been under the impression that numerous URLs posted send a post to the moderator jail.

    2. Jeff Boone

      Here you go Ron.  From a favorite quote source of the intellectual left.  Covers it all pretty well:

      https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-democrats-immigration-mistake/528678/

      A UCD professor is quoted and referenced here.   Now you will quibble that it does not prove that Democrats support open borders.    But the Democrat party today is the party of liberal progressives, and there is a lot of this out there to read: https://fpif.org/progressives-should-support-open-borders-with-no-apology/

       

    3. Keith Olsen

      And what has Trump done for these people? Pass a tax cut that favored the rich then couldn’t afford an infrastructure bill that would have put them to work.

      Would you stop parroting this MSNBC nonsense.

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