The Polls

Andy Jones performing a poem as the City's Poet Laurette in May
Andy Jones performing a poem as the City’s Poet Laureate in May

by Andy Jones

“I go over polls. I love polls. I love polls. Now when – if they turn negative, I don’t like them.” Donald Trump

We also love the polls –
We are the people who follow the people
Who follow the polls,
Who love the polls

The poll numbers
The poll numbers compound
The poll numbers compound our interest
The poll numbers compound our interest in the polls

The polls
The polls reflect our response to the polls –
The polls are consulted to determine how we feel –
The polls support who the polls support –
The polls support the way we feel about the polls

The hungry are hungering –
Those polled are hungering for strength –
Those polled are remembering racism fondly
And hope to bring it back again –
They are filled with hope
To make the country white again,
To make the country hate again

White people in primary states
Primarily like white people in primary states,
The people who get to decide,
The people who we like –
They are passionate people –
They are passionate followers,
Our people,
The people we like make up
In passion for what they may otherwise lack

Irish? Like
Danish? Like
Scottish? Like
Viking? Like

The people who we do not like
Are not sending their best –
They are not sending you –
They are not sending you

Check the hue
Check the color
Check the shade
Check the hue

The polls show that how the sun loves you
Is not how we love you –
We disagree with the sun –
We do not support the message of the sun –
The sun is not sending its best
Your people, some of them, I assume, good people,
Have been too loved by the sun

We have killers coming –
The bad ones are being sent over –
Cunning people who have been loved by the sun
Are sending over the people who are doing the raping –
Someone is loving the sun –
Someone who is loving the sun is doing the raping

Someone is not speaking American –
American is the primary language –
American is the language of the primaries –
Around here, you had better speak American –
Of all the colors, white is our color –
White is our primary color

The polls
The polls
The polls

The polls help us understand how we feel about you –
The polls in the primaries –
The primary states’ polls –
Primarily, it’s hue –
Primarily, it’s you –
The sun loves you –
The sun loves you too much,
so we cannot love you

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46 Comments

  1. Barack Palin

    The polls, the polls,

    the polls say Hillary lies,

    the polls, the polls

    the polls say people distrust her,

    the polls, the polls,

    why do people still back her,

    the polls, the polls,

    why doesn’t Hillary listen to the polls?

  2. Misanthrop

    “On the Future! -how it tells
    Of the rapture that impels
    To the swinging and the ringingOf the bells, bells, bells,
    Of the bells, bells, bells, bells,Bells, bells, bells – 
    To the rhyming and the chiming of the bells!”

    I too find that The Bells compels.

  3. Frankly

    Those polled are remembering racism fondly
    And hope to bring it back again –

    Others polled remember their feeling of relevancy marching to end racism and so they hope to bring it back again  –

    1. Davis Progressive

      wow.  everytime i want to give frankly a chance, he writes something like this.  as it turns out there is not much room between trump, bp, and frankly after all.

      1. Frankly

        I am a Fiorina and Rubio supporter, but Trump over Clinton and Sanders any day.

        By the way, Trump supporters are secular moderates.

        So apparently along with whites you would denigrate secular moderates.

        Who are you supporting for President?

        Or are you too embarrassed to say?

        1. Davis Progressive

          moderate and trump are contradictions in terms.

          who am i supporting?  i may vote for bernie sanders in the primary, i may vote for none of the above.  haven’t decided yet.  bernie’s not great on civil rights.

        2. Don Shor

          By the way, Trump supporters are secular moderates.

          http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/09/who_are_trumps_supporters.html

          First, Trump’s support is not particularly ideological. In recent YouGov polls, 20 percent of his supporters describe themselves as “liberal” or “moderate,” with 65 percent saying they are “conservative” and only 13 percent labeling themselves as “very conservative.” Less than a third of his supporters say they are involved with the Tea Party movement. Their views put them on the right side of the American electorate, but they cover the Republican mainstream.

          In terms of demographics, Trump’s supporters are a bit older, less educated and earn less than the average Republican. Slightly over half are women. About half are between 45 and 64 years of age, with another 34 percent over 65 years old and less than 2 percent younger than 30. One half of his voters have a high school education or less, compared to 19 percent with a college or post-graduate degree. Slightly over a third of his supporters earn less than $50,000 per year, while 11 percent earn over $100,000 per year. Definitely not country club Republicans, but not terribly unusual either.

          1. Don Shor

            “Slightly over half” is not “primarily.” Slightly over half of Americans are women (50.8%).
            Not sure why you consistently defend Donald Trump on the Vanguard.

        3. wdf1

          Trump is probably the least consistent candidate on issues (source):

          Does Trump really represent conservative values? Even avowed conservatives don’t always agree on what these are, because they include social causes such as opposing abortion and same-sex marriage; political ones such as curbing the reach of government and devolving power to the states; martial ones such as asserting American power abroad and maintaining a superior military; and economic ones such as lowering tax rates and spending less money.

          But on few of these is Trump a classic conservative. His windshield-wiper party affiliation — in 1999 he switched from Republican to independent, then to Democrat in 2001, then to Republican in 2009 — suggests either internal conflict on the issues or blatant pandering. He favored the economic stimulus plan, the automobile industry bailouts, the bank bailouts and the assault-weapons ban; he has called himself “very pro-choice,” “very liberal” and a backer of “universal health care” on national television; during the 2012 campaign, he criticized Republican Mitt Romney’s harsh immigration rhetoric.

          No wonder National Review, the house organ of the right, recently used an entire issue to showcase famous conservatives from across the spectrum warning against supporting Trump. If you are a Trump supporter who likes the billionaire’s conservatism, ask yourself this question: In what ways were the most articulate and well-known conservatives wrong? To hear their critiques and pretend your candidate still advances your worldview is like being diagnosed with a deadly disease and refusing to listen to the doctors who are specialist in the field because you’re just going to walk it off.

          Religion is very important to American voters. According to a recent Pew Research Center poll, being an atheist is the trait most likely to cause voters to reject a candidate. They are more likely to vote for you if you are Muslim than an atheist. Accordingly, Trump has asserted his deep religious belief and spoken several times of his respect for the Bible in an effort to win evangelical support.

          But asked about his favorite Bible verse, Trump was unable to recall any. “I wouldn’t want to get into it, because to me that’s very personal,” he said. Was he an Old Testament or a New Testament guy? “Probably equal,” he replied. An odd statement for an avowed Christian.

          A month later, he amended that by telling Christian Broadcasting Network’s David Brody that his favorite was “Proverbs, the chapter ‘never bend to envy.’ I’ve had that thing all of my life where people are bending to envy.” Although Brody couldn’t recall the specific phrase, Trump’s aides later informed him that it came from Proverbs 24:1-2. (What that verse actually says is, “Do not be envious of evil men, nor desire to be with them; for their heart devises violence, and their lips talk of troublemaking.”) In a more recent flub, Trump referred to Second Corinthians as “two Corinthians,” showing a fundamental lack of familiarity with the Bible. Then blamed someone else for writing it down incorrectly. Perhaps his penchant for blaming others for his mistakes, as he has for several misogynistic and racist tweets, is even more worrying than the mistakes themselves because it indicates a man averse to being humbled by his errors and unwilling to learn from them. A decidedly unbiblical attitude.

  4. Frankly

    Not sure why you consistently defend Donald Trump on the Vanguard.

    I don’t so much defend Trump.  I am defending his supporters… the same people that I consider the core of America and the real America.  I am extra sensitive to their negative plight which is primarily the result of the policies of both the establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans… combined with an intolerant liberal opposition, the liberal media and the liberal-promulgated political-correctness machine.

    Who are you supporting?

    Unless you are willing to say I think you should probably steer clear of denigrating others who have the honesty to say.

      1. Don Shor

        It’s very easy to say, as I just did. I could categorize all of the other candidates in the same disparaging manner you just did, one by one, but that seems unnecessary. We always wish that we could vote for people whose values we share, who we respect, who we connect with somehow. But prior to this election, I can’t think of one where there were so many major candidates who I simply cannot even imagine in the White House, representing our country to the world, managing foreign crises.
        On any list of policies there are bound to be areas of agreement and disagreement with any candidate. We all make decisions about what is most important. War, health care, social issues, environment, fiscal/tax policies — we have to rank those things. Character obviously counts, and that’s a big part of what I have problems with Hilary Clinton about. I am not going to spend 4 – 8 years defending her. She’s not my first choice for president. But it’s where we are when the GOP field is so egregiously bad in my opinion in all other respects.

    1. Don Shor

      I am not presently supporting anyone. As to who I will vote for, which — as I have explained before is a different thing entirely — I will probably cast a protest vote for Sanders in the primary, then vote for Clinton in the general election because all of the leading Republicans are completely unacceptable to me.
      I don’t personally know anyone who ‘supports’ Hilary Clinton. I know lots of people who support Bernie Sanders enthusiastically, but who will likely vote for Clinton in the general election.

      My high school civics teacher once explained it pretty simply:
      Sometimes we vote for someone.
      Sometimes we vote against someone, so we are voting for the other candidate by default.
      Sometimes we choose the lesser of two evils.

      1. Frankly

        Well at least you put that out there.

        Sometimes we choose the lesser of two evils.

        Sure, but your party is only offering two different evils.

        Frankly (because I am) I feel for my lefty friends having to chose between a chronic liar establishment politician and a grumpy old socialist that has not accomplished anything noteworthy since becoming a US Senator in 2007.

        So I’m not seeing such a high horse to stand to complain about support for Trump.

        And what are your reasons for not being supportive of Rubio or Fiorina other than ideological?

        1. Don Shor

          Short answer: war, health care, and social issues. War #1. Plus Fiorina is unqualified; I see nothing in her background that leads me to believe she would be effective.

        2. hpierce

          Well, as the Republicans have made a huge point [although Democratic Party has, to a lesser extent] of shutting out not only Democrats, but non-partisan (decline to state/independent), Green, Libertarian, AIP, etc., from the presidential primary, if Don is a registered Democrat/no party/etc., why would he ‘support’ ANY Republican candidate until the general election?

          As for me, just as you seem to have strong feelings that you support “anyone but Sanders or Clinton”, I have at least as strong feelings that I could, if allowed to [which I will not be, in the primary, as I have no party affiliation], support anyone other than Trump or Cruz.

          The Republican Party is on the verge of being irrelevant in CA… the Democrats are trending that way, as well.  Those who are neither, are well on their way to being the ‘dominant’ party.

          The “big tent” that Republicans referred to years ago, is looking more like a “pup tent”.  My parents were Republicans.  Dad and I voted ~ 95 % the same way for years… I started out as a Democrat… Dad would have likely gone “no preference”, but he insisted in voting in the primaries, but in the general election he would vote for the ‘best person’ as Don Shor explained earlier… I still do… Don’s point resonated with me…

      2. Barack Palin

        Speaking of Hillary, it was very interesting hearing Democrats at Bernie Sander’s Iowa campaign event chanting “She’s a liar”, “she’s a liar” over and over while she was giving a speech on overhead tv’s.

  5. Frankly

    Sanders appeals to the values of liberals, anti-common sense, fear and authoritarianism.

    Clinton appeals to people that don’t value the truth as much as feeling good about themselves.

    1. Dave Hart

      Oh and because you say it, it must be true.  That is a Republican value as Republicans go nowdays.

      Actually, Sanders appeals to the liberal values of common sense, hope and courage over fear and democratic action from the ground up.  And it is true because I say so.

       

    2. Matt Williams

      Frankly said . . . “Sanders appeals to the values of liberals, anti-common sense, fear and authoritarianism. Clinton appeals to people that don’t value the truth as much as feeling good about themselves.”

      Ahhhhhh the joys of a “When did you stop beating your wife?” statement.  You are in rare form today Frankly.

      1. Frankly

        Really? A Socialist vowing to give more free stuff with 20 trillion in national debt?

        He wins 50% of the Iowa Caucus delegates tonight.

        I’m not in rare form, the Democrat Party is.

        1. Don Shor

          Sanders would pay for his programs with tax increases. He’s said so. Were he to actually be able to accomplish that, it would have a very negative effect on GDP. But the likelihood of his enacting any of his proposals, even if he were elected by a landslide, would be nearly zero. On the other hand, presidents are perfectly capable of committing the American military to very expensive, unfunded, foolish, open-ended, catastrophic interventions without even bothering to get congressional approval. And we know those can cost trillions of dollars. So, yeah, you’re viewing fiscal irresponsibility through a very narrow partisan lens.

        2. Barack Palin

          So Don, what you’re saying is even though Sander’s proposals would bury the economy don’t you fret because the GOP held congress would stop him from doing so.  Okay, got it.

        3. Barack Palin

          If Sanders were elected President how else would his agenda be stopped unless a GOP held congress refused to vote for raising taxes to fund all of his giveaways?

        4. Barack Palin

          But the likelihood of his enacting any of his proposals, even if he were elected by a landslide, would be nearly zero.

          You seem to be dodging the question.  You stated the chances of Sanders enacting all of his handouts were nearly zero, so I’m curious as to how you think he would he be stopped unless by a GOP held Congress?

          1. Don Shor

            You really seem to have a reading comprehension problem. My point was regarding the fiscal imprudence of both parties in certain regards.
            But to answer your question, a significant percentage of Democratic House members and Senators would also oppose his fiscal policies such as Medicare for all. Even in a majority-Democratic House and/or Senate it would be unlikely that his tax and spending policies would prevail.
            I’ll leave it to Sanders supporters to come here and justify his positions. I’m not a Sanders supporter.

  6. Frankly

    What is really interesting this election is the Democrat split between the young people and the old people.  We see a similar thing happening in Davis.  The old people want to close the bars and block the building of new housing and new business that would provide job opportunities.

    The Davis young people are largely oblivious, but will wake up at some point.

    The national old people are going for Clinton; the national young people for Sanders.

    Which basically supports my ongoing assertion that national Democrats have looted all they can and kicked the can down the road too far.

    The problem is that the national young people are not yet knowledgeable enough, after their college liberal professor brainwashing of social justice political correctness and identity politics, to recognize how we got here and what we need to do to really help their plight.   They want something better, but Venezuela is what they would get with Sanders.

    1. Dave Hart

      There are a lot of “old” people who really like Sanders because he is the only one they trust not to gut Social Security and Medicare (Clinton included) and a lot of young people are smart enough to recognize that every Republican (with the possible exception of Kasich who doesn’t have a prayer) is certain to bring more war, death and destruction.  They want something better and while Sanders will be stonewalled at every point, at least he is fighting for the common person and has demonstrated by the way he lives that he knows what it is like to be one of the common people.  But then you already knew all that.

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